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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Lambchops on October 13, 2016, 10:57:01 AM
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Is this one of yamon's akas? or is it crybaby? or did he just drink the koolaid? cos I've seen the name around, but never really had much to do with this one before...
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WOOT!
Post the replay, then everyone can see me legit pwning ur ass.
i'll "just wait for bann", but excuse me if I don't hold my breath.
moron was logged by the time I got back from posting SS
I posted 4 of then (the last one's my fav;)
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(http://ss.war2.ru/ss/9029.gif)
(http://ss.war2.ru/ss/9030.gif)
(http://ss.war2.ru/ss/9031.gif)
... and yeah I killed off the noob early then took his spot and had the advantage... no strategy there MUST BE HACKING!
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Ive been lead to believe he is the martin18
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Ive been lead to believe he is the martin18
I believe sir.fred in the channel screenie is martin18
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Martin18 desverves ban anyway!!!
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Would you rather play him and not know who he is. Even if we ban a hacker like martin18 he can always come right back in 2 seconds since we dont have hardware ban.
Its not secret martin18 is a hacker, (even with those hacks he does suck anyway) so if you play him expect to get no SS if u request it.
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Would you rather play him and not know who he is. Even if we ban a hacker like martin18 he can always come right back in 2 seconds since we dont have hardware ban.
Its not secret martin18 is a hacker, (even with those hacks he does suck anyway) so if you play him expect to get no SS if u request it.
Are you saying we can't check antihack and use that as a basis to determine if someone is hacking or not?
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Anti hack doesn't always show if someone is hacking or not it has been proven to be inaccurate.
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hes not good but martin18 doesnt suck that much actually, and i think a lot of times hes just a huge asshole but not hacking
however, i think the "we let them stay on their main accounts so you know what youre getting into" argument is a debatable one. it makes some sense. youll see dellam sometimes hosting a rigged map and you instantly know it's definitely gonna be a rigged map because it's dellam in there. but martin18 specifically has PM'd every single admin many times asking for his bans to please be lifted and i do feel like he's slowed by it and maybe there is some merit to banning the martin18s and dellams over and over again versus just saying "Lol we're helpless." i dunno, feedback anyone?
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That's esn.
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Having hackers spoils the fun for all. All well for us regulars to say "oh that's so and so, let's leave" but for a newcomer to the server, it's not so simple. Ban all known hackers and IP's on the spot. I didn't have a problem doing it last time I was active, and don't have problem now. Literally banned dellam a zillion times. Your guys call.
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sounds like equinox.
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Would you rather play him and not know who he is
Actually, now you mention it this seems like the ideal use for channel icons. Just give them a big steaming turd icon, and be done with it.
...better still mod wc2ce so that "The Turd" won't display on their own client but everyone else sees it.
Now there's a project for a rainy day MUHAHAHAHAHAHA xD
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Maybe "hacker"
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I very much dont like that. It's just advertising that these people can hack and are still allowed on the server. In a way it's condoning hacking more than any other thing we can do
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I see ur point
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I see ur point
Attached to ass like a leech will do that [emoji6]
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I'm not saying it's a great policy... but what other real option do you have.
Start banning someone like that and it turns into a game for him.. next thing u know ur chasing someone whose sole purpose is to troll the entire server on proxies.. ruining games.. just stirring up shit everywhere
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And whether or not an admin is online to perform the ban is hit or miss
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Martin is just a guy who didn't get enough attention as a kid so he looks for it other places... just in the form of negative attention. The more attention he gets, the more he wants.. trying to go on a ban spree vs his proxies is an uphill battle imo
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Martin is just a guy who didn't get enough attention as a kid so he looks for it other places... just in the form of negative attention. The more attention he gets, the more he wants.. trying to go on a ban spree vs his proxies is an uphill battle imo
I agree with TK in this circumstance
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I very much dont like that. It's just advertising that these people can hack and are still allowed on the server. In a way it's condoning hacking more than any other thing we can do
Valid point.
Also worth considering is: looking at what we (the community) want to get out of it. Do we really want to ban everybody who has ever used a hack?.... I'm just guessing, but I think that might make getting a game of 1s tricky and 2s near impossible.
I can remember the first time I logged on to USEAST and there was 100k people online playing wc2. It was before stupidface or instatwit or any of that crap. It was awesome and unprecedented in the history of the human race - no exaggeration necessary.
How many players now?... exact figures aside I think it's safe to say the community has downsized a wee bit. Personally I think we need everyone. Despite what I might have said when I'm annoyed because some idiot has been wasting my time with that crap, I don't really want the hackers to never come back, I just want them to stop bloody hacking. Same with the haters - which I personally find just as bad - I just want them to stop hating. Man I hate haters soo much ...... lol nvm
Anyway, I think most of us would agree with most of that; but what I'm getting at is this: one of the most effective modifiers of human behavior is peer group pressure (I'd rate it a close third behind the baseball bat and naked breasts, but as far more versatile than either of them ;)) I think that perhaps we, as a community, need to modify the way we respond to inappropriate behavior. Maybe just a slightly different angle.
I don't claim to know exactly what that angle is, ofc the turd icon thing was just something that popped into my head while I was reading this topic and made me laugh. But it did make me think about people responding differently to the stinkers in question....
I think the current system usually goes something vaguely like this:
( no slight intended towards anyone here - just bunch of made up stuff to illustrate the point at the end)
1) [hX]AssWipe goes around using lameass trojan-ridden hacks.
2) People start to notice suspicious things about his gameplay.
3) JohnPlayer asks for a ss [hX]AssWipe dodges.
4) JohnPlayer starts crying and name calling and demanding blood.
5) Admins think OMFG John is sooking on about another bloody ss, will he ever STFU?
6) By now the turd has logged in as h4x1n4t0r and he's all "hi im new, i used to play yrs ago"
7) Soon others who are less prone to sooking start to notice there's a stinky waft in the air.
8 )People start to get banned from games on suspicion of being cah-cah.
9) Forum posts, general conversation and personal accounts start to gain momentum.
10) Amins realise there's a real problem and start to keep an eye on the turd and his akas.
11) Endless hours of bitching and accusing in games and channel.
12) Eventually someone gets a smoking-gun ss with /p and something has to be done.
13) Right when the thing reaches a head, the turd gets one of his favorite names banned...
Then what happens? He goes away? Fat chance... No. He loses the argument, and has to log on as x-DW-x)LittleBoPeep( for a while and keep his mouth shut. He gets some time to listen to JohnPlayer carry on about how he knew the turd was stinky and reflect on how he got caught, and how to avoid it. While he's skulking, he gets sneakier. Eventually people may occasionally catch a wiff of poo, but mostly can't tell exactly where it's coming from. Resentment and suspicion start to nag at people... and on it goes.
I think by now that generally, the type of people who were maybe tempted to do the wrong thing, but were embarrassed enough by their punishment to decide it wasn't worth it, have all given up - they don't do it anymore. The people who still do do it, have have probably been banned before under a few different names and keep doing it... more of the same won't stop them.
And yes tk, good point - there's aways one or two of these sad individuals in any crowd:
just a guy who didn't get enough attention as a kid so he looks for it other places... just in the form of negative attention. The more attention he gets, the more he wants..
I've heard talk about it but I've never had much to do with the martin name, but this negative attention seeking does remind me someone else who gets a fair bit of coverage on this forum... these are difficult cases.
Anyway, I think what really tickled me when I pictured some hacker strutting around wearing a big steaming turd badge and not realising while everyone else had a laugh and made in jokes at their expense... man there's something off around here - can u smell that? ...was that it's a different response, it breaks the endless hack-sneak-deny-accuse-ban-blah-blah-omg cycle and puts the whole thing in an entirely new context...and for map-hacking it does have a touch of poetic justice about it. ;)
But like I said, that was just a whimsical notion. Not something I put any serious thought into ( although I have to admit, I'm still not hating it lol). I really don't know what the answer is, but I do think we need a slightly different angle that allows the community as a whole to demonstrate how they feel about stinky people, instead of just hurling judgment and abuse.....
....... because we all know by now that doesn't fix the problem.
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hmmm... How about a vote command for giving temp mutes/gameban? Set the number of required votes highish so people have to hound their inactive friends to come online to help mute the troll, and maybe play a few games while they're at it. :D
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hmmm... How about a vote command for giving temp mutes/gameban? Set the number of required votes highish so people have to hound their inactive friends to come online to help mute the troll, and maybe play a few games while they're at it
i'll vote for this command and not being the one to impliment it ;)
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i think thats super retarded
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I don't. But it is super possible with an opped bot!
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WELL.... Someone has to be a real dick to prompt me to post about them, but this guy has won the trophy.
The last guy who was that dickish was swws, and that was nearly a year ago.
Imagine my surprise when the next guy who was enough of a complete tool to make me pull their records turns out to be EXACTLY THE SAME DICK.
His connection is from Germany, So I presume he is also. He is a very obvious map hacker.
Here are some of his AKAs:
swws
mr.popo
polanddd <--- 3x ddd
dvdv
sogan
kitap
... EDIT:
lordgamer96
jjjj1234
dinner97
SlaySiamk
kjkim
ber
555
XuRuT <--- look again
... also a bunch of other random keyboard-mash type names.
These names I found with a quick auto search, there may be more - I suggest you don't piss me off enough to make me do any extensive analysis.
BHC-MASTER, another German, was also there and should know better than to behave like that. If you guys want to hold hands and giggle while you cheat, don't do it while I'm around. Consider yourself warned.
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mmm server treats for not reason, brings back memories when pickamaterina ddosed me for turning his warlatency off with extra high latency
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ok so I just got accused of map-hacking for the first time since i made this post.... and of course guess who it is? (no prizes)
Latest names for martin-tard
mik58
olik
chopss
Still 100% tard every time!
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I stopped locking them until he ss refuses on one. Which he does regularly.
We just don’t have the tools to permaban him yet.
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I stopped locking them until he ss refuses on one. Which he does regularly.
We just don’t have the tools to permaban him yet.
Yeah, just a public service notice.
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Newest name for martin18 is bump bump bump.....metall-1
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metall-1 is not martin18, he just had simple pw)
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^^Oh you think martin stole his account?
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metall-1 is not martin18, he just had simple pw)
omg, lol. i guessed you fixed for him? hahaha
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LOL wooted... good timing on the screen shoots.. and victory screen shot LOL :o good job..
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New name for martin18,
russo01