There hasnt been a succesful economic social system throughout the history of mankind. All have failed. You name it, socialism, communism, nationalism, all doomed to fail. And capitalism has also failed. And this era of capitalism will fail. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but it will.
Black people can't live without their welfare candy.
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Pink nightmare.Black people can't live without their welfare candy.
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Idiot.
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
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what site is that jon?https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=N00000528&newMem=N&recs=20 (https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&type=I&cid=N00000528&newMem=N&recs=20)
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.
They charge for water in Europe (or at least they do in Greece, which is the only place in Europe I've been to) so that didn't jump out at me quite as much but its also never $12 and its usually rolled into the service or table charge or whatever since gratuity isn't required.
what about $12 bottle of water.
i feel this is what patrick bateman would order.
They charge for water in Europe (or at least they do in Greece, which is the only place in Europe I've been to) so that didn't jump out at me quite as much but its also never $12 and its usually rolled into the service or table charge or whatever since gratuity isn't required.
this was nello's in new york.
well then we better jump in to be in the 1% then
Only poor people are against capitalism. They mad because they can't have a piece of the pie.
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We don't even have pure Capitalism. We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government. Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency. Corporations are working in collusion with government officials. Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate. Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations. I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money. Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear. Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.
ancaps are funny, we're already living in an ancap paradise and they're too stupid to know it. over regulation didn't cause anything, it's the root ideology of capitalist theory of an accumulation of wealth by any means necessary
We don't even have pure Capitalism. We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government. Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency. Corporations are working in collusion with government officials. Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate. Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations. I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money. Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear. Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.
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We don't even have pure Capitalism. We have a mixed economy where we have free enterprise being regulated by our government. Most problems in the economic system we have today are caused by over-regulation and the manipulation of our currency. Corporations are working in collusion with government officials. Pure Capitalism would keep the economy and government separate. Although we would see a great improvement in the system, I still despise it due to my own personal observations. I've seen nothing but contradictions from people who seem as if they have good intentions yet they withhold the truth, lie, and manipulate all for the sake of making money. Even so, they try to put it in a different light and try to justify their actions as if they haven't broken any principles they claim to hold dear. Capitalism promotes nothing but self-interest and is not synonymous with any wisdom throughout our history that teaches good will.
This is fucking retarded. "Pure capitalism" as imagined by ancap/libertarian/Austrian types doesn't exist and can't exist, its a complete contradiction of itself.
So why waste time with rigged elections.bernie isn't owned by the corporations.
So why waste time with rigged elections.bernie isn't owned by the corporations.
Money talks.So why waste time with rigged elections.bernie isn't owned by the corporations.
The elections are so it doesn't matter.
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i bet he doesn't pay taxes and says people on welfare are leeches
billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.
billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.
billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.
And welfare parasites are responsible for the downfall of society.
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billionaires/multi millionaires are economic terrorists.
And welfare parasites are responsible for the downfall of society.
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No idiots like you are.
It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.
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It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.
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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.
It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.
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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.
I meant to put lavish in quotes...of course there are different standards when it comes to what people perceive as lavish. So to answer your question, yes you can on any income whether it be earned or welfare.
Why would I quit my job, your kind of people depend on my tax money to put food on your plates and cotton on your backs.
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It's funny how the biggest loser wastes of space on this forum are so obsessed with saying other people are on welfare of all things. "Welfare" is really win and if I qualified for it I'd take it just to troll you retards.
Well I don't say other people are on welfare, only you...and its not a "win"...it's an excuse for lazy people who don't want to work and live a lavish lifestyle.
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You can live a lavish lifestyle on welfare without working? Why don't you quit your job and get on welfare then? Oh because you just have too much integrity for that I guess, lol.
I meant to put lavish in quotes...of course there are different standards when it comes to what people perceive as lavish. So to answer your question, yes you can on any income whether it be earned or welfare.
Why would I quit my job, your kind of people depend on my tax money to put food on your plates and cotton on your backs.
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Because if you quit your job you could apparently live "lavishly," without working, and instead spend all your time playing retard Paintball all day because you haven't learned how to play War2 in 20 years?
If I quit my job I wouldn't be living in any lavish standard as I would not have a income.
I said in my previous post "...any income whether it be earned or welfare"
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If I quit my job I wouldn't be living in any lavish standard as I would not have a income.
I said in my previous post "...any income whether it be earned or welfare"
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So you're admitting that your original assertion, that people on welfare live lavishly, was incorrect, and you're a fucked up retard who plays Paintball. Thanks for clearing that up and I accept your implicit apology.
Why bother using contemporary political terms like "terrorist" used as epithets by the capitalist ruling class when pigs and classics like that work just fine.
Also why bother putting "economic" there first, the world's wealthy are directly responsible for the majority of actual terrorism and violence across the globe.
No it's correct, welfare is a sort of income.
You seem mad, you angry that I dislike your way of living?
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people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.
it's not a ruling class term. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Nechayev
but it's all related to economics and keeping their wealth (power).
people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.
people on welfare who get shit money, barely enough to survive , are leeches? how did this propaganda ever gain traction to begin with, it's beyond absurd. i guess the crab mentality is mostly responsible as people think welfare recipients are driving around with expensive cars without earning their money at a job, so they get jealous at this perceived lifestyle and lash out. what a bunch of horseshit.
That's definitely it and why the biggest anti-public assistance types are complete losers looking for something to make them feel better about themselves. "I make shit money at a shit job and hate my life and my only solace comes from retard paintball custom War2 maps, but at least I'm not like those leeches on welfare!!!!!!"
Stick to your welfare checks because I can assure you that you ain't got a career in impersonating me...
I do play RPGs though and other custom maps.
Stick to your welfare checks because I can assure you that you ain't got a career in impersonating me...
I would have to repeatedly be hit in the head with heavy mining equipment to make a career out of impersonating you effectively.
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Australia’s rich are getting richer, and while inequality here is not as extreme as in the United States or the United Kingdom, it is heading in that direction, according to a new study by the Australian Council of Social Service.
the wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
Quote from: jonthe wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.
Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.
What a great way to explore this topic with this doc. A great and enlightening watch.
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Quote from: jonthe wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.
Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.
multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
Quote from: jonthe wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.
Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.
multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
A small percentage of them do far far more good than you or I.
Multi millionaires are upper middle class these days. A million isn't what it used to be.Quote from: jonthe wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.
Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.
multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
Why the fuck do you all use this forum instead of the perfectly good 15 year old one?
Quote from: jonthe wealthy have committed economic terrorism on the lower classes by denying or stealing any rights for them to gain any wealth.
It's still very possibly to obtain wealth, Jon. It's just that most people don't want to or don't know how to do it. One of the hardest ways to get wealth is by working for someone else.
Also, I tend to agree that a lot of rich people are soulless, but I hope you are aware there are exceptions to the rule.
multimillionaires and billionaires shouldn't exist.
A small percentage of them do far far more good than you or I.
No, they don't, because any good they do is outweighed by the net evil of their existence.
I met a couple in 2013 who owns some commercial real estate, which they are leasing out to banks, car dealerships etc. They are worth about 4 million dollars. Based on how our interactions went I was able to learn that they make over $450,000 net a year and donate roughly $350,000 of it to both local and global out-reach programs in their church, but mostly to various non-profits that aren't affiliated to any church/religion. Both are also retired and active volunteers in their community.
It is not every day that a multi-millionaire spends his money to save the planet, instead of investing to make more money. Businessman Mr. Johan Eliasch did just that.
Mr. Eliasch has a long list of achievements under his belt, his main one being Chairman and CEO of the company Head, better known for its Tennis rackets and ski equipment. A banker and film producer, Mr. Eliasch also serves as a Treasurer and Special Advisor to the Shadow Foreign Secretary and is deputy chairman of the Conservative Foundation, in the UK, as well as being a member of the advisory board of the International Peace Foundation, the sports advisory board of the Shimon Peres Peace Foundation, and the advisory board of The Centre for Social Justice.
In March 2006, Mr. Eliasch purchased 400,000 acres of Amazon Rainforest from a wood logging company in Brazil. The land is estimated to have cost £8m pounds sterling (US $14m). His plot is located just north of the Madeira River and 1,600 miles (about 2,590km) northwest of Rio de Janeiro. His environmental beliefs and passion for saving the planet was the main reason for his purchase, saying: “The Amazon is the lung on the world”. Mr. Eliasch will also let scientists use his land to explore and search for undiscovered species.
On a recent interview with Chanel 4, Mr. Eliasch expressed his love for trees and how it is important to preserve them. He continued by saying that - “the Amazon produces 20% of oxygen for the planet, thus it is important to preserve the rainforest”. He encourages others to do the same, stating that the more people buy the forest the less trees would be cut down; he adds that - “the investment was good value as it does something good for the planet; the situation of the trees being cut down is just getting from bad to worse, the greenhouse gases and hurricane activities have a huge connection with the cutting of the rainforest, we must preserve the rainforest to avoid global disasters and distraction”.
I believe that if all multi-millionaires could invest in something so meaningful to help the planet, we would definitely be on the road to recovery. It gives me enormous pleasure to learn that people who have the means to make the world a better place to live in, are in fact doing something about it. Thus noble thinking and noble action is definitely the way forward
but yeah, there good billionares.QuoteIt is not every day that a multi-millionaire spends his money to save the planet, instead of investing to make more money. Businessman Mr. Johan Eliasch did just that.
Mr. Eliasch has a long list of achievements under his belt, his main one being Chairman and CEO of the company Head, better known for its Tennis rackets and ski equipment. A banker and film producer, Mr. Eliasch also serves as a Treasurer and Special Advisor to the Shadow Foreign Secretary and is deputy chairman of the Conservative Foundation, in the UK, as well as being a member of the advisory board of the International Peace Foundation, the sports advisory board of the Shimon Peres Peace Foundation, and the advisory board of The Centre for Social Justice.
In March 2006, Mr. Eliasch purchased 400,000 acres of Amazon Rainforest from a wood logging company in Brazil. The land is estimated to have cost £8m pounds sterling (US $14m). His plot is located just north of the Madeira River and 1,600 miles (about 2,590km) northwest of Rio de Janeiro. His environmental beliefs and passion for saving the planet was the main reason for his purchase, saying: “The Amazon is the lung on the world”. Mr. Eliasch will also let scientists use his land to explore and search for undiscovered species.
On a recent interview with Chanel 4, Mr. Eliasch expressed his love for trees and how it is important to preserve them. He continued by saying that - “the Amazon produces 20% of oxygen for the planet, thus it is important to preserve the rainforest”. He encourages others to do the same, stating that the more people buy the forest the less trees would be cut down; he adds that - “the investment was good value as it does something good for the planet; the situation of the trees being cut down is just getting from bad to worse, the greenhouse gases and hurricane activities have a huge connection with the cutting of the rainforest, we must preserve the rainforest to avoid global disasters and distraction”.
I believe that if all multi-millionaires could invest in something so meaningful to help the planet, we would definitely be on the road to recovery. It gives me enormous pleasure to learn that people who have the means to make the world a better place to live in, are in fact doing something about it. Thus noble thinking and noble action is definitely the way forward
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Rofl..."good"
I'd like to see how many "good" billionaires there would be if charitable donations weren't tax deductible.
bout what?What I mean is, a lot of rich people's charities are just vanity projects or random shit that happens to align with their own interests, and a lot of times they wouldn't be doing this charity if they didn't think it helped their own image or if there weren't charitable deductions in their taxes.
he could be... if only he hadnt quoted my post and made a standalone statement, yeah. i would agree then.
he quoted a post where it said about a millionare buying off a part of the amazon rainforest.
where is donation or charity in that action. ? or even tax-avoiding ?
bout what?
he could be... if only he hadnt quoted my post and made a standalone statement, yeah. i would agree then.
he quoted a post where it said about a millionare buying off a part of the amazon rainforest.
where is donation or charity in that action. ? or even tax-avoiding ?
What I mean is, a lot of rich people's charities are just vanity projects or random shit that happens to align with their own interests, and a lot of times they wouldn't be doing this charity if they didn't think it helped their own image or if there weren't charitable deductions in their taxes.
lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich
lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich
Don't bite the hands that feed YOU [emoji6]
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lol if you have a shred of admiration, respect, or general goodwill towards the rich
Don't bite the hands that feed YOU [emoji6]
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ok cool motto. but we're talking about wealthy people , stay on topic.
no idea what that means, but you = retard
no idea what that means, but you = retard
I know what it means...it means he's a retard.
no idea what that means, but you = retard
Also the people swift was talking about are probably kind good people but they're still practitioners of rentier capitalism, ie they are part of the ownership class who contribute nothing to society and simply extract money from others. It's the system they exist in and they're doubtless better than a lot of others in this system but it's still unjust and exploitative.
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.
"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"
are you advocating for the exploitation of labour you retarded gimp?
you wouldn't blame your excessively and undeservingly wealthy boss dropped your wages to not even a fraction of what your labour produces in order to enrich himself?
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.
"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"
you wouldn't blame your excessively and undeservingly wealthy boss dropped your wages to not even a fraction of what your labour produces in order to enrich himself?
Sure I would, but in your scenario i wouldn't consider my boss as "smart"
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Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.
"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"
So a guy makes his fortune by his work ethic and smarts is "wrong"??...more like lazy welfare dingbats as yourself are the very downfall of society. They are rich because people like you are retarded, not their fault they know how to take advantage of the system.
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And the type who does this from the ground up doesn't always get the luxury of getting off work at 5 P.M like the poor and middle class.
Meanwhile, the poor/middle class, what do they do? They typically work for an established company, and effectively taking a much more reasonable and fair share than the evil/greedy rich do. But they get the luxury of getting off work at 5. Then what do they do? Go watch the game? Take their family out to eat? Do they help anyone? Some do, most probably not. Maybe a minority of them tithe, or maybe they give a homeless man money here and there. Some do, I bet most don't. But even those who do an occasional good deed, for the most part - it's mostly few and far between and it makes a small impact relative to the millionaire philanthropist who gives away the majority of what he has, and makes great change.
If anyone said that "aw they are so charitable and benevolent to us lowly peasants, we should thank them for the crumbs they give us" bullshit about nobles and aristocrats it would be absurd in a developed country in 2015 but because its capitalists millions of dupes like swift lap it up.
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
Rich people are fundamentally wrong by their very existence, just like absolute monarchs used to be, why is this so hard to understand.
"OMG you say fuck the king?!?! When was the last time you gave tax relief to the peasants?!?!"
So a guy makes his fortune by his work ethic and smarts is "wrong"??...more like lazy welfare dingbats as yourself are the very downfall of society. They are rich because people like you are retarded, not their fault they know how to take advantage of the system.
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You're really fucking stupid.
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.
1. I am not talking about the rich who sit back and enjoy their wealth and provide nothing. There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
2. I am not talking about people exploited outside of this country. I am also not defending those who exploit them.
Also I don't know who you're referring to when you say "these people". The types I am talking about do not fund genocides, or back evil dictators.
I am also not talking about the same type of "philanthropist" you're describing. I clarified this already. I am talking about ones who give give the vast majority away, not the greedy/evil types you're describing.
You aren't following what I am saying.
Here's another example: There's a four squares pastor here in Oregon who is worth around 20 million in real estate and was offered over 100k salary for head pastor position at his church. I have a few friends who do ministry in the same church, and apparently he turned down the 100k salary and instead takes 1 dollar/yr, and his real estate produces net cash flow of over 1 million, of which he collects somewhere around 60-80k and donates the rest.
Thoughts on this particular example?
And also, please do not compare this type of rich folk to the "aw but they give a million bucks to cancer research or whatever", because they're night and day different, and I am clearly talking about the truly far more generous one. The pastor is a true philanthropist, the other is a phony.
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.
I can all but guarantee that, if we stick with real estate examples, that some investors start out working a normal job and just save up. After a few years they buy their first single-family residence. Then after another year or two of saving + cash flow from first rental, they buy a second, then another year later they buy a duplex with more saved up money + cash flow from the two rentals, then six months later they buy a four plex, then six months later they trade up the four-plex to a 12 plex.
20-30 years later they have a large portfolio where they provide competitive rents, and in our example, we're talking about the GOOD rich folk, who are few and far between, they proceed to donate the vast majority.
so, where would the exploitation be?
There are people who build empires from the ground up, work their asses off to do so, and give the vast majority of it away.
no. these people who "build empires" literally do not exist. give me an example and i'll point you a large group of exploited people.
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.
I can all but guarantee that, if we stick with real estate examples, that some investors start out working a normal job and just save up. After a few years they buy their first single-family residence. Then after another year or two of saving + cash flow from first rental, they buy a second, then another year later they buy a duplex with more saved up money + cash flow from the two rentals, then six months later they buy a four plex, then six months later they trade up the four-plex to a 12 plex.
20-30 years later they have a large portfolio where they provide competitive rents, and in our example, we're talking about the GOOD rich folk, who are few and far between, they proceed to donate the vast majority.
so, where would the exploitation be?
so they're landlords? the most disgusting exploitation there is.
This just in: capitalism rules!
Well, I don't have any real life examples I can provide, because I don't know really know all the details of how they obtained their initial capital. But lets use our imagination.
lmfao. "well no, i don't have any evidence, but if you use your imagination, i think you'll see its possible to conceive of a universe where i'm right"
Even the people you are describing as "good capitalists" keep most of their earnings for themselves, if they didn't they would not be wealthy.
Anyhow, if a person were to build up a rental portfolio off of a combination of funds from full time job + bank loans + build up of cash flow as he acquire more and more rentals + refinancing and then went and proceeded to donate the vast majority of his earnings year after year leaving him with a self paid salary well under 100k/yr then he is doing something good.
You can sit back and talk about Marxist ideals and "what type of economy we should have" and you would be right, but realize that all the exploitation you're wanting to prevent/stop is very real, and there are a lot of people hurting/suffering from it. The easiest way to help them right now is to utilize the current system itself, in order to help people instead of exploit them.
Even the people you are describing as "good capitalists" keep most of their earnings for themselves, if they didn't they would not be wealthy.
Assuming my examples aren't related to leverage investments (buy and hold real estate), which they are, then you would be absolutely correct. I can go and buy a 10 million dollar apartment complex if I find the right couple to seller finance it with a small down. That complex will then slowly pay for itself, and I would not have had to put any of my cash flow/earnings to pay off the mortgage. After 10-30 years (or whatever the length of the loan is), I would own that complex out right and be worth whatever it's market value is at that time.
Even if we were using other examples though, where leverage isn't at play in order to acquire wealth, yes more often than not it takes money to make money. So on one's adventure to build a capitalist empire for good, he will have to save for a while in order to reinvest it so that he can build up a business that produces a "sufficient" amount of returns to fund whatever cause he plans to.
So he is doing all this good, and then bringing in a comfortable wage for his family.
You act like it's not a job and that your typical landlord just sits around collecting checks. That couldn't be further from the truth.
You are taking my argument, the exception, and consistently throwing it in with the rule so that you have a mountable defense.
It's easy to take out the key components to someones argument (below market rents
+ excess profits to good causes
+ understanding that this act is a temporary treatment to some of the immediately hurting people while capitalism exists)
"Donates the excess wealth + provides greatly discounted housing + Makes a reasonable/fair amount while doing so = worse than living for yourself and helping nobody and effectively making around the same amount of money."
Yeah, I am the insanely stupid one, right...
You say they're exploiting to some extent, as if every job isn't, probably including yours, exploiting someone somehow. The question is how excessive is it, and in the case of my example it's extremely minimal.
Also, I never made an example that suggests they give so much away they aren't wealthy. They are wealthy because the good will means of production or land that they own, is worth a substantial amount on the open market to your typical rich folk.
I notice that you're twisting my words. I previously clarified that when I said I don't have any real life examples, I was saying I don't PERSONALLY know the stories of anyone in how they acquired their initial capital, and then I provided plenty of non-personal examples on a web, a website that has hundreds if not thousand examples of how people acquired their wealth - and almost every single one involves the exact example I gave.
As for if they're profitable or not, yes, they are. So you say they exploit people by providing discounted rents + giving away the excess + working to manage the real estate, yet you haven't clarified where the exploitation is in excess to your average 9-5 job.
Of course they're going to make a profit, they need to survive - and they are providing a service. They're effectively managing housing at this point and thats a job. If they didn't make 40-80k (depending what part of country you are in), they wouldn't be able to provide for their family.
Giving away "excess profits" means they're giving away enough to the point where their income is at or around average for their market after all donations - this obviously varies by area.
This isn't a hypothetical example, the pastor I mentioned is a real person who does such. it's not known to his congregation, but everyone a part of the churches staff/ministry is well aware that he pastors for $1/yr and donates so much of the profits from his real estate income that he ends up bringing home less than the average family does in his city.
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
You're retarded.
Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness
Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.Not all poor people are like that and if that is what you got from my statement it is not what i meant what i mean is there are poor people who refuse to get a job because their lazy or they think the world owes them something. there are also poor people who are unable to work or who work and Don't have enough income. The point i was trying to make is that capitalism is flawed but it does not demonize poor people as the op said.
so you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
You're retarded.
Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.
I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical responseso you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
You're retarded.
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Yeah, there's no way I can think of a counter argument to "poor people just don't want to work," it couldn't possibly be you're too much of an idiot to be worth the time.Not all poor people are like that and if that is what you got from my statement it is not what i meant what i mean is there are poor people who refuse to get a job because their lazy or they think the world owes them something. there are also poor people who are unable to work or who work and Don't have enough income. The point i was trying to make is that capitalism is flawed but it does not demonize poor people as the op said.
I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical responseso you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
You're retarded.
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I have seen lots of people that argue like that I would much rather prefer feedback that proves I am wrong or at least is an attempt at a logical responseso you couldn't think of a counter argument so you just insult me?exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?Capitalism is an economic system which is based off of free trade. Under capitalism the government typically has a small role in personal business and yes there are greedy large corporations those corporations employ thousands maybe millions of people world wide; and if you are meaning towards the United States specifically Capitalism's basis on free trade and little government interference goes with American ideals of liberty freedom and the pursuit of happiness. Not to mention the Government has welfare and other programs for the poor. while yes there are flaws in the system as there are flaws with any human system, those flaws mainly do include the greediness of large corporations I find capitalism to be a good enough system because many of the poor people often live in poverty because they don't get off their asses and get a job.
You're retarded.
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you argue nonsense, like nothing of what you said has basis in reality.
you changing your opinion is not relevant to anything. you don't even have an opinion, you just parrot pro-capitalist nonsense you've heard from other filthy bougeious scum.my opinion is that capitalism is not so evil as you make it out to be. and tell me what sort of economic system would you suggest be in place of capitalism anyway
my opinion is that capitalism is not so evil as you make it out to be. and tell me what sort of economic system would you suggest be in place of capitalism anyway
you changing your opinion is not relevant to anything. you don't even have an opinion, you just parrot pro-capitalist nonsense you've heard from other filthy bougeious scum.
You say they're exploiting to some extent, as if every job isn't, probably including yours, exploiting someone somehow. The question is how excessive is it, and in the case of my example it's extremely minimal.
No it's not. They literally make their livelihood from exploitation. Charity doesn't nullifly exploitation, exploitation and charity are not matter and antimatter. While I myself am the beneficiary of exploitation of various sorts, for example, the exploitation of the workers who produce cheap products for me and other first worlders, I do not make a living through exploiting others. In fact, I am exploited by my employer and my livelihood comes from the wage I am given by my employer, which is a small fraction of the actual value I produce for said employer.Also, I never made an example that suggests they give so much away they aren't wealthy. They are wealthy because the good will means of production or land that they own, is worth a substantial amount on the open market to your typical rich folk.
That's what I thought, I was bringing up "so much to charity they are no longer to wealthy" because that is the only way the situation you are describing can even come close to not being exploitative, and even then it probably would be. But it's a nonsense scenario so discussing it does not matter. In this situation, these people make an excessive amount of wealth, more than the majority of people who have lived on the planet throughout history, the vast vast majority, could never even dream of obtaining a fraction of themselves. But they are good people because a small fraction of that goes to a "good cause" while they continue to live better than even the most decadent monarchs of past eras? Insanely stupid.I notice that you're twisting my words. I previously clarified that when I said I don't have any real life examples, I was saying I don't PERSONALLY know the stories of anyone in how they acquired their initial capital, and then I provided plenty of non-personal examples on a web, a website that has hundreds if not thousand examples of how people acquired their wealth - and almost every single one involves the exact example I gave.
Lol yeah let me go to some propaganda site for rich people to have your point proven to me. Not that it matters - my argument applies equally to all these people, down to the most ultra-charitable example you can find. You lack a basic understanding of exploitation and how capitalism functions.As for if they're profitable or not, yes, they are. So you say they exploit people by providing discounted rents + giving away the excess + working to manage the real estate, yet you haven't clarified where the exploitation is in excess to your average 9-5 job.
Because they use their control of property to profit off of people's need for shelter. The necessity of shelter is withheld from individuals simply because they cannot pay, not because the shelter is not available to them. That is exploitation.Of course they're going to make a profit, they need to survive - and they are providing a service. They're effectively managing housing at this point and thats a job. If they didn't make 40-80k (depending what part of country you are in), they wouldn't be able to provide for their family.
Yeah all those landlords who make millions and give it all away except for 40-80k a year. Lmfao.
Also, you just admitted this is not charity, it is solely an act driven by profit. Moreover, again, an essential life need is withheld for the pursuit of profit. This is exploitation. If you were starving and I had an abundance of food and you had no money, and I made you pay me for bread, you would think this is a moral outrage. But because you are indoctrinated in the logic of liberal capitalism, you find it acceptable in the macro sense.Giving away "excess profits" means they're giving away enough to the point where their income is at or around average for their market after all donations - this obviously varies by area.
40k-80k is "around average?" Compared to what? Lmfao. How many people in China do you think make 40k? Oh yeah, you're just talking about the US, as if you can meaningfully separate the two in a global capitalist system.This isn't a hypothetical example, the pastor I mentioned is a real person who does such. it's not known to his congregation, but everyone a part of the churches staff/ministry is well aware that he pastors for $1/yr and donates so much of the profits from his real estate income that he ends up bringing home less than the average family does in his city.
I don't believe you, and even if you were right, he's still a rent seeking parasite.
At the end of the day, we basically see eye to eye on everything except maybe this one thing - I am okay with a capitalist who focuses on driving profits so long as they give the VAST MAJORITY of it back.
That's a good point, although arguable depending on a few variables.
Are you considering that although he may not be a capitalist from the income perspective, he is in the sense that he owns/controls the land/industry/means of production that afford him that income, which is like 5-10-20x in valuewhat he makes per year?
At the end of the day, we basically see eye to eye on everything except maybe this one thing - I am okay with a capitalist who focuses on driving profits so long as they give the VAST MAJORITY of it back. I rented for years, and although I was exploited for profits, my life was awesome and I had everything I needed + 100x that. So, If I had a landlord who provided me housing and then gave away a huge chunk of his profits to appropriate causes, then I would be very ok with that.
I understand as a whole that this doesn't help to fix the problem at large, which is to kill off capitalism. But because capitalism isn't going anywhere soon, then I basically see this as a necessary evil.
Obviously I am speaking very generally, and if I took many other things into account such as certain landlords who provide housing to very low income individuals and suck them dry, then I would look at these cases very different. Like I said though, my life as a renter was more than great, and so for every renter that lived by the means that I did when I rented, I am ok with a capitalist taking money from them to give to the people who are truly suffering. I'm very okay with that.
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As for myself, I aspire to be like the people in the examples I provided, and I aspire and continue to strive to be big apart of new and established nonprofit organizations that go out and help those who going through very real pains due to the lack of necessities such as food, medicine, shelter, etc. If it makes me a bad person because I am exploiting those with such first world problems like having to rent properties that have ac, heating, clean carpets, multiple bathrooms and running water (hot, warm & cold) so that I can use that money to provide to people going through much worse, then so be it.
What I don't get is why you stand behind such noble causes, but yet come across as an asshole who tries to abuse and harass people who you feel to be beneath you in virtue/ideals/beliefs/intellect, etc. You appear to be a pretty smart person, if your character matched your values then you seem like a person who could do a lot of good, and probably find a way to do it without hurting others too much if at all. But maybe you already are doing such, what do I know.
The housing is provided with some profit and probably a bit more to live off of than is needed. And yes, the exploitation is still prevalent because of that. Also, I actually am not acting like my landlord or I are making a great sacrifice in that example. Even if the excess/majority of profits are donated by the landlord, and although it may have required some work/risk to get his real estate portfolio that large, sacrifice is still not the right word. In fact, I don't even see it as some "uber good person" thing to do really by any means. I have some respect for it myself, and there is a form of nobility in it in my opinion, but I'm definitely not thinking the landlord is some saint. I'm just good with the fact that hes at least not a complete scumbag like 99% of the elites are. I am as well aware that the worst forms of exploitation from the system are more often than not on a global level and not so much in the states, even though at home it's full of unjust exploitation on a large scale itself.
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The housing is provided with some profit and probably a bit more to live off of than is needed. And yes, the exploitation is still prevalent because of that. Also, I actually am not acting like my landlord or I are making a great sacrifice in that example. Even if the excess/majority of profits are donated by the landlord, and although it may have required some work/risk to get his real estate portfolio that large, sacrifice is still not the right word. In fact, I don't even see it as some "uber good person" thing to do really by any means. I have some respect for it myself, and there is a form of nobility in it in my opinion, but I'm definitely not thinking the landlord is some saint. I'm just good with the fact that hes at least not a complete scumbag like 99% of the elites are. I am as well aware that the worst forms of exploitation from the system are more often than not on a global level and not so much in the states, even though at home it's full of unjust exploitation on a large scale itself.
Okay, so the hypothetical charity landlord isn't quite as bad a person as a multi-billion dollar net worth banker and has less effect in maintaining and expanding monopoly capitalism. That's a really obvious conclusion that no one disagrees with though, and the amount of energy you spend on trying to convince people that there are some "good capitalists" is pretty similar to me to people who go to ridiculous lengths to acknowledge that there's "some" good cops, "some" good troops, or "some" good Nazis.
It's a matter of opinion, of course. However, yeah I think there are "some" good capitalists. There are also "some" good everyday american's who are still shitting on those levels below them on the bird stand. But I am not talking about whether there are such or not, I am instead saying if one were to be such a capitalist, I would have respect for them myself. Again though, I wouldn't go around suggesting they're a saint, but yeah I think they're doing some moderate good - that is my opinion.
To be fair though, I should disclose that the reason I picked landlords as an example is because I associate with many local ones often, and I am one myself. I own two real estate investment companies (one which holds a moderate rental portfolio) and head up a real estate solutions company as well. So, although my views were practically the same even back when I was in college and renting, I do question the level of my own bias.
It's a matter of opinion, of course. However, yeah I think there are "some" good capitalists. There are also "some" good everyday american's who are still shitting on those levels below them on the bird stand. But I am not talking about whether there are such or not, I am instead saying if one were to be such a capitalist, I would have respect for them myself. Again though, I wouldn't go around suggesting they're a saint, but yeah I think they're doing some moderate good - that is my opinion.
Okay, but "you're better than the rest of the guards here at the death camp" is not very worthwhile praise.To be fair though, I should disclose that the reason I picked landlords as an example is because I associate with many local ones often, and I am one myself. I own two real estate investment companies (one which holds a moderate rental portfolio) and head up a real estate solutions company as well. So, although my views were practically the same even back when I was in college and renting, I do question the level of my own bias.
Wow, shocking, the landlord defends landlordism and exploitation. It sounds to me like you are mostly just looking for absolution yourself and ways to justify your own behavior. If it's any consolation you will probably just naturally become a Republican in a few years at this rate and then you won't have to worry about it anymore.
A few posts ago you were suggesting I couldn't see capitalism from the outside, now I'm aware of such to the point that I need to try to justify it... hmm...
until then, or until I know of a better way, then I aspire to be like those people I mentioned in such examples, and so maybe you could say I am justifying my aspirations, but I am not. I honestly don't feel I need to.
A few posts ago you were suggesting I couldn't see capitalism from the outside, now I'm aware of such to the point that I need to try to justify it... hmm...
No, not really, I didn't claim that your need to justify it came from any sort of great awareness about what capitalism is and how it actually functions. I think instead that you, like many others, are intuitively aware of the injustice of your very existence on some level, which I don't think requires a deep awareness of political economy. Because you have this awareness you seek rationalizations and excuses to justify your position and actions. To make an example, many people who make the argument that sweatshops are a net good are likely not educated in the science of Marxism and do not understand the deeper, scientific reasons why they are bad. But they understand sweatshops are bad on a visceral, intuitive moral level, and so they feel some need to justify an obvious injustice.until then, or until I know of a better way, then I aspire to be like those people I mentioned in such examples, and so maybe you could say I am justifying my aspirations, but I am not. I honestly don't feel I need to.
Your posting in this thread implies otherwise.
Actually, your example seems to be poor in my opinion - comparing peoples perspectives and awareness of the realities of sweatshops vs landlords. The exploitation isn't as readily visible in the landlord/renter relationship as it is in the sweatshops, and I believe most people who see sweatshops as immoral but a necessary evil, don't even consider landlording to be immoral. There are definitely those out there who are aware of such, but it is minuscule relative to how many adhere to your example. Because of this, I think it weakens your example.
You're comparing my awareness of the wrongs of landlording, to the awareness of those who are only aware of very visible and obvious exploitations. It's easy for people to see sweatshops as wrong and not see the whole picture of capitalism as wrong. but if you're aware that landlording is exploitative, I think it becomes very hard to ignore the other countless other spectrum's in capitalism for what they really are.
Actually, your example seems to be poor in my opinion - comparing peoples perspectives and awareness of the realities of sweatshops vs landlords. The exploitation isn't as readily visible in the landlord/renter relationship as it is in the sweatshops, and I believe most people who see sweatshops as immoral but a necessary evil, don't even consider landlording to be immoral. There are definitely those out there who are aware of such, but it is minuscule relative to how many adhere to your example. Because of this, I think it weakens your example.
The purpose of bringing up a similar but more severe situation is that, by making the differences on each side more stark, it helps better explain a less polarized, more ambiguous dichotomy.You're comparing my awareness of the wrongs of landlording, to the awareness of those who are only aware of very visible and obvious exploitations. It's easy for people to see sweatshops as wrong and not see the whole picture of capitalism as wrong. but if you're aware that landlording is exploitative, I think it becomes very hard to ignore the other countless other spectrum's in capitalism for what they really are.
I don't really think so, you seem to be aware of the nature of the class relationship, but you are comfortable enough with capitalism to expend significant energy making asinine excuses for the continuation of the status quo like "well some capitalists are nice."
I am not making excuses for the continuation. I've wanted the capitalism system as a whole to cease since my early high school years, and if it were a readily available option then I would say take it no hesitation. But it's not.
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Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
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whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.
Wow, never thought of it that way.
whats the point in increasing minimum wage? the businesses will just pass the expense on to the customers.
Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
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Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
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Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.
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Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
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Dunkin' CEO: $15 minimum wage is 'outrageous'
[url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url] ([url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/23/news/dunkin-ceo-minimum-wage/index.html[/url])
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scummy billionaire ceo says giving people livable wages is outrageous. how we continue to let these exploiters continue to breath is beyond me.
Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.
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So hard to be a billionaire...I love and feel sorry for my boss.
Sure he does but he's not in the restaurant frying up donuts or making coffee. He's running a multibillion dollar company, 'successfully'. I am sure his wage is reflective of his experience and knowledge of business administration to lead a company with thousands of stores around the world.
scummy billionaire ceo says giving people livable wages is outrageous. how we continue to let these exploiters continue to breath is beyond me.
If we take measure to kill those who exploit us, then should we still not afford the same measure to be used against us to those who we exploit? I'm not saying you or I are as bad as Nigel Travis or those like him, however, it seems convenient to kind of forgive, debase or look past our own personal moral transgressions just because these guys pimped on a larger level than us.
I don't ever see you guys talk about having yourselves killed for the role you play in all of this.
actually......
[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
actually......
[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
actually......
[url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url] ([url]http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=392310#392310[/url])
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
Think of it like your rich charity people. Good people, doing their best, still part of a bad system. All americans are citizens of a country that exerts force on the rest of the world in order to stay in power as the chief exploiter and fatcat of the world. Doesnt make all americans bad people, but they do harm others just by existing. i will...... NOT be killing myself.
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?
I'm not better in anyway
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?
I'm not better in anyway
Not only that, you're actually worse, not just by your ideology but by your own admitted position as a rent seeking/would be rent seeking capitalist. So shaddup.
Refreshing and nice to read, but still just a few and far between exception to the rule. Meanwhile, a hundred posts going around talking about your disgust and intolerance for the wrongs of the corporate elites while your hands are very bloody does not get overlooked by your one or two needle in a haystack posts that make a half-ass attempt at condemning your own actions.
"I deserve to die but it doesn't mean I am not a good guy" makes no sense in any universe unless you're suggesting you just changed your ways but still need to be held accountable for the old you, but we both know that probably doesn't happen with like... anyone.
And you're better how, why again? Because you defend rich people and are in the mood to troll about how we're all just as bad this week?
I'm not better in anyway
Not only that, you're actually worse, not just by your ideology but by your own admitted position as a rent seeking/would be rent seeking capitalist. So shaddup.
you defend landlords
You guys twist just about everything.
I absolutely did not defend landlords. Nor did I come in holier than thou whatsoever, you do that regularly though. You guys twist just about everything.
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living inside her own privileged bubble, not recognizing not everyone affords the same privileges nor the luck she had in her life. these annoying morons are all over the place, reality doesn't seem to connect to these people.
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The Number of Americans Living on Less Than $2 a Day Is Skyrocketing
[url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url] ([url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url])
capitalism raises people out of poverty tho
The Number of Americans Living on Less Than $2 a Day Is Skyrocketing
[url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url] ([url]http://www.alternet.org/economy/number-americans-living-less-2-day-skyrocketing[/url])
capitalism raises people out of poverty tho
Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 [emoji16]. Poor ain't got anything on me.
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Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 [emoji16]. Poor ain't got anything on me.
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If you're a middle class American who drives a car to work and eats something besides ramen noodles you're probably over $2 a day.
Pfft, I make money but I still try to live around $2.00 [emoji16]. Poor ain't got anything on me.
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fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol. there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.
fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol. there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.
Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.
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fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol. there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.
Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.
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You're possibly even dumber than the Pollack Claw.
fucking retard bullshit like capitalists know how to run a bulldozer. labour doesn't need capitalists exploiting them. labour can survive without them quite fine. capitalists without a labour force to exploit though? lol. there's a reason force is required into keeping people working.
Labour's are too dumb and inefficient to manage themselves...why they work for capitalists.
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Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...
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Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...
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You are retarded.
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Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...
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You are retarded.
How? Of course the owner gets more pay...he's got more invested and expenses than a guy who just makes the crap.
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Maybe...but I wonder who holds the actual patents to the products that he is producing...just because you make it doesn't mean you own it. I wonder how much that guy making the products has already invested in the company to buy the machines he works on and the materials he uses to make the product...
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You are retarded.
How? Of course the owner gets more pay...he's got more invested and expenses than a guy who just makes the crap.
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"Dur."
yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.
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yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.
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You need to be put to work in a gulag.
yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.
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You need to be put to work in a gulag.
Please...the current generation is out of control. I am sure you can also see that even with your Chinese education...
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yes the great Victorian era where the economy thrived on child labour. the progeny of the poor being used as cleaning objects.
Children are so lazy nowadays, they need to be put back to work so that they can appreciate their childhood.
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You need to be put to work in a gulag.
Please...the current generation is out of control. I am sure you can also see that even with your Chinese education...
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You're a retarded old man.
You and everyone else once they get old and lame.
I'm probably older than you.
I'm probably older than you.
By physical age maybe, but your current mental status suggest otherwise.
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I'm probably older than you.
By physical age maybe, but your current mental status suggest otherwise.
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Holy shit...so this is what getting owned feels like.
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i need to buy 50 of them... no fuck . capitalist mind control almost got me. good thing i have a lenin poster to look at which immediately snaps me out of the materialist hypnosis propaganda.
are people being killed in factory fires or collapses in third world countries while mass producing Lenin posters? the fuck is that comparison. you're one of those retards that thinks wearing a che t-shirt is ironic.
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leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.balderdash hogwash poppycock
labours may be the backbone of societies productive efforts, but there needs to be a higher reward for the entrepreneurial, inventor, visionary, leader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.
a higher reward than 60000000000000000000000x the salary of labourers?Quoteleader types who each individually do far more than any one lowly individual in the workforce.balderdash hogwash poppycock
socialism isn't about same wage for everyone. it's about fair wage for everyone without the exploitation by capitalists, and the entire elimination of poverty. also ceo's don't do more than their labourers. the fact is labourers do more. also a lot of these "leader types" you talk about were born in wealth and have advantages others don't. there's no equal opportunity in capitalism.
have you read this [url]http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/[/url] ([url]http://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/[/url])
According to Einstein, the profit motive of a capitalist society, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, leads to unnecessary cycles of booms and depressions, and ultimately encourages selfishness instead of cooperation.[3] In addition, the educational system of such a society would be severely undermined because people will educate themselves only to advance their careers. This results in the "crippling of individuals" and the erosion of human creativity.[3] Unrestrained competition in a capitalist society leads to a huge waste of labor and causes economic anarchy, which Einstein denounces as the real source of capitalism's "evil":
einstein owned capitalism pretty hard. we're a society of retards that continues propping up this cancerous system.
What is this article about, convincing people why socialism is better/fair? If so, I don't need to read
I've never read anything from Einstein as it pertains to his views on capitalism. Good stuffLol that's what my link was, it's an article by Einstein. I posted it because Jon quoted Einstein and that's more reading if he hasn't read it yet!
I agree with everything except the part about CEO's not doing as much work as their labourers. Although a CEO's job description varies greatly between company to company, I am under the impression most of them have far more complex work loads, stress and overtime than the typical employee? What has made you believe otherwise? I'm interested
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I agree with everything except the part about CEO's not doing as much work as their labourers. Although a CEO's job description varies greatly between company to company, I am under the impression most of them have far more complex work loads, stress and overtime than the typical employee? What has made you believe otherwise? I'm interested
even if you assume that false bourgeois narrative is actually correct (that the ceo works harder) , do they work THAT much harder in which their bloated wages are justified? carlos slim is such an insanely overworked person , so much more than his employees, that he's really worth that 60+ billion dollars? not a chance.
fact is, a ceo can work as hard as he wants or as lazy as he wants - without the workers toiling there's no money to be had in the first place.
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CEO on twitter who raised drug prices 5000%, asked how he feels about working people suffering, unable to afford these drugs, he laughs about it then masturbates into his own mouth
haha he started off with his own hedge fund where he was shorting pharma stocks and then telling the FDA to deny their applications, which he got investigated for, and then when his hedge fund went bankrupt he had another pharma company that he paid off the hedge fund people with, and then he got fired from that company and sued for doing that, so now this is his third company and he's buying old medicine and raising the price from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill. throughout this process he has made tens of millions of dollars for himself
I think he just bought a team, because he's a fucking loser, so he thought that would be a good way to spend some of his money.
haha he started off with his own hedge fund where he was shorting pharma stocks and then telling the FDA to deny their applications, which he got investigated for, and then when his hedge fund went bankrupt he had another pharma company that he paid off the hedge fund people with, and then he got fired from that company and sued for doing that, so now this is his third company and he's buying old medicine and raising the price from $13.50 a pill to $750 a pill. throughout this process he has made tens of millions of dollars for himself
this is a picture of him and he was also apparently a professional league of legends player for a time
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how do you figure millionaires or some cases billionaires work harder than actual workers who need money? a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off. fuck off swift.
how do you figure millionaires or some cases billionaires work harder than actual workers who need money? a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off. fuck off swift.
get paid more as well than lower level workers, because they work more and do more.
um climbing the corporate ladder is easy as it gets if you're part of the privileged few. in fact, there is no climbing necessary.
also you never answered the question - which was about millionaire and billionaire CEOs. all you've described is what small business owners may have to deal with. why do i get the impression you think you're going to be a millionaire some day?
"...the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." swift irl.
get paid more as well than lower level workers, because they work more and do more.
you think that's how it works? harder working, do more = more money? lol wtf. some of the richest people in the world are parasitic absentee landlords that do nothing that actual contributes to society, they simply own capital.
why do i get the impression you think you're going to be a millionaire some day?
"...the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." swift irl.
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups
the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups
the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc. Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.
But yes, most entry, middle level jobs in my opinion are very easy compared to upper level management jobs, or specialist jobs, or running start-ups
the working class constitutes a lot more than just entry level or "middle level jobs".
Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol.
"Wow, when you think about it, a CEO works way harder than the working class, so they deserve their money. BTW when I say "working class" I am talking about middle class Americans and not the actual global working class of slaves."
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc. Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.
i am talking globally, not just the states. your bad for assuming otherwise.
i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however most big shot entrepreneurs/upper-management guys i know (i've never met ceo's to big corps though, but i assume they are the same as follow) get warmed up at 70 hours a week, and most severely struggle with trying to separate work life from personal life as they cant shut it off. it's a sort of addiction/obsession, in it's own very powerful way. There's constant fear of disappointing colleagues, employees, or struggling to keep finances up by taking huge financial risks, file bankruptcy multiple times, stay up late working on huge projects or stressing over direction/risks they're undergoing, etc etc etc. there's healthy life style books written for and geared toward these types - see again, biggerpockets.com granted, i'm sure they have MUCH better working conditions/environments then a lot of people out there but that's for another conversation.
also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again
i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of "oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists" which i am not. Again, the pay and working conditions are absolutely unfair for the middle/poor classes throughout the world. all i am saying is these types typically are some of the most dedicated/obsessive hard working types who get their position due to these "qualities". in addition to this, they typically have other types of qualities, some of them are great at implementing or even coming up with new ideas, some are amazing talent scouts, etc etc.
also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again
they aren't just sipping pina colada's 24/7 on beaches as jon seems to think.
granted ceo is a very broad term and job description/tasks for these individuals can vary greatly from company to company - most are picked carefully by the company and have to answer to a board of directors, chairman etc who ultimately reports back to purely profit motivated shareholders... but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.
thats all i am saying. minus the liberation from their lives part of course O_o
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or somethingyour opinions are false, and they help to propagate the demonization of the poor and the myth that the poor don't work hard.
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Some people can read you fucktard.
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Some people can read you fucktard.
Good thing your a swine and not people [emoji6]
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how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Some people can read you fucktard.
Good thing your a swine and not people [emoji6]
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You make Swift look like Aristotle.
how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Some people can read you fucktard.
Good thing your a swine and not people [emoji6]
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You make Swift look like Aristotle.
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Your both retarded, including your hand puppet Jon.
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how do you get your evidence? i'll admit that i only have a limited amount of real life examples i rely on, none of which are real life persons that head up mega companies like nike or something
Some people can read you fucktard.
Good thing your a swine and not people [emoji6]
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You make Swift look like Aristotle.
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Your both retarded, including your hand puppet Jon.
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I clown on Jon all the time and, basically, you're fucking stupid.
Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.
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Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.
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That makes no sense, you're a retard and nobody likes your posts.
Why he is your hand puppet, dumbass.
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That makes no sense, you're a retard and nobody likes your posts.
U madd swine? [emoji200]
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i am talking globally, not just the states. your bad for assuming otherwise.
You absolutely are not. In this very post you spend less than a sentence talking about the global situation, and then go on to talk about how hard it is to be an "entrepeneur" because all the ones you know work so hard. Making token statements to the effect that there's a world outside the US does not mean your argument or analysis meaningfully incorporates these facts.i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however most big shot entrepreneurs/upper-management guys i know (i've never met ceo's to big corps though, but i assume they are the same as follow) get warmed up at 70 hours a week, and most severely struggle with trying to separate work life from personal life as they cant shut it off. it's a sort of addiction/obsession, in it's own very powerful way. There's constant fear of disappointing colleagues, employees, or struggling to keep finances up by taking huge financial risks, file bankruptcy multiple times, stay up late working on huge projects or stressing over direction/risks they're undergoing, etc etc etc. there's healthy life style books written for and geared toward these types - see again, biggerpockets.com granted, i'm sure they have MUCH better working conditions/environments then a lot of people out there but that's for another conversation.
also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again
i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of "oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists" which i am not. Again, the pay and working conditions are absolutely unfair for the middle/poor classes throughout the world. all i am saying is these types typically are some of the most dedicated/obsessive hard working types who get their position due to these "qualities". in addition to this, they typically have other types of qualities, some of them are great at implementing or even coming up with new ideas, some are amazing talent scouts, etc etc.
So what is your fucking point? Who fucking cares? A middle class or wealthy person who chooses to be obsessed with his or her work and work this way, what are you saying about them? That they actually do "work hard?" Or harder than the working class? They don't. Even if you want to compare some McDonald's cashier wage slave with no responsibility performing completely brainless and menial tasks, the "hard working entrepeneur" myth bullshit person you're talking about has the security of choosing to be an "entrepeneur" (I love the use of this word as some kind of sanitized, forward looking capitalist btw), people like that don't start from nothing and work 80 hours a week and build something from scratch. The McDonald's wage slave is dependent on that job or a similarly low skilled job for their very survival. There is a difference between "working hard" on what is essentially a big fucking hobby and working for the survival of yourself and your family. And who is making money off the latter? These fucking "entrepeneurs" you're talking up like a Republican presidential candidate. These people overwhelmingly come from the middle and upper classes. They have assets. They work like this because its what they like to do in life and they want to make more money. They are "good at what they do" as you say because they are the only classes who have the chance to do these things, the working class does not have access to the education and resources that allow these opportunities.
You are completely unable to evaluate capitalist society in an objective, scientific way. You completely ignore the global structure of oppression and exploitation ("i understand many places around the world have non-existent/relaxed labor laws, or at least governments willing to bend them for one incentive or another, and pieces of shit take advantage of this with long work weeks etc - however...*droning paragraph about how hard it is to be a CEO*") and focus on vulgar individualist platitudes based on "people you know" and liberal capitalist propaganda. You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival.
"Healthy lifestyle books" lmfao. "Feel sorry for these people, sometimes they have to pay $30 for self help books and another few hundred for a seminar on mindfulness just to get through their lives." I would believe you were trolling if you hadn't repeatedly shown yourself to actually be this stupid.also, i never said CEO's "deserve their money" and I made sure to clarify this more than once. your bad again
You're bad for making this argument and then saying "I'm not making that argument!" as if that changes the actual content of what you're writing. "I'm not saying child molesters are not monsters deserving of more pity than their victims, but *writes one sentence about how its bad to be molested and then a bazillion sentences about how hard it is to be someone who wants to fuck kids*they aren't just sipping pina colada's 24/7 on beaches as jon seems to think.
Now who's twisting people's words? Jon and I obviously don't think a CEO literally spends 24/7 on the beach. We both believe they are enormously wealthy and privileged people compared to the rest of the world and most people in the world would gladly trade their life for that one, including the supposed 80 hour work week you keep harping on. Are you actually going to argue otherwise? If not, what the fuck is your point? Some people who run companies work a lot because they are capitalist leeches obsessed with money? Okay Swift, that's true! Can you shut the fuck up unless you have a point?granted ceo is a very broad term and job description/tasks for these individuals can vary greatly from company to company - most are picked carefully by the company and have to answer to a board of directors, chairman etc who ultimately reports back to purely profit motivated shareholders... but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.
You're now arguing capitalism is a meritocracy and nepotism is practically nonexistent? Jesus.
And before you accuse me of strawmanning you, this is what you said. "The idea that they are just going to hire their friends and pay them a 6 or 7 figure salary is absurd, they want a quality CEO" (paraphrase). Are you really this fucking stupid? Besides naked nepotism that exists in practically any human organization where friends or family members or people closer to the authority receive beneficial promotions and pay, what about the fact that the vast majority of the planet is barred from these positions not because of merit, but because their class position completely bars them from accessing the resources they would need to enter into these positions?
but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry. you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.
yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?
still parroting this nonsense? ok. let's look at studies.
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url] ([url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url])
this study finds literally no correlation between pay and company performance, so where is the "stress" coming from exactly when they know they can fuck up and still make loads of cash? ? ? the average worker doesn't have that luxury , do they?
[url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url] ([url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url])
Abstract:
We find evidence that Chief Executive Officer (CEO) pay is negatively related to future stock returns for periods up to three years after sorting on pay. For example, firms that pay their CEOs in the top ten percent of excess pay earn negative abnormal returns over the next three years of approximately -8%. The effect is stronger for CEOs who receive higher incentive pay relative to their peers and stronger for CEOs with greater tenure. Our results appear to be driven by high-pay related CEO overconfidence that leads to shareholder wealth losses from activities such as overinvestment and value-destroying mergers and acquisitions.
CEOs get paid so much they literally don't give a fuck.
but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry. you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.
I'm going to finish owning you in just a second but lol, when I saw your wall of retarded text I knew you would throw in some holier than thou bullshit in the mix like this. You're so fucking predictable and pathetic. Swift is so much smarter and more reasonable and well adjusted and happier than the people who explain what an idiot he is!
1 - I'm not going to get into an argument about whether or not I take a global perspective when talking about capitalism, just because you have an inkling of suspicion
2 - yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?
3 - You twisted my argument exactly in the way I predicted you would in my post prior i said "i'm sure you'll assume something or twist my argument in some way, as you always do - perhaps this time you'll take the angle of 'oh swift's trying to create a pity party for the blood sucking capitalists' which i am not." ---- obviously i am not suggesting a pity party for these folk, they have lovely working conditions, way to much fucking money, the liberty to do whatever they want from day to day (as you mentioned), and so forth.
4 - You proceed to suggest I don't know some of the fundamental mechanics behind capitalism like "You do not understand the difference between owning the means of production and laboring under those owners for survival. " LOL, i would struggle more with doing basic division than failing to understand this shit. you're ridiculous and out of touch with reality. you're the only person i've met who thinks you have access to a certain type of knowledge that the only special among us, such as yourself, are capable of comprehending simply because you read a few of k. marx's books/pamphlets. the guy has come up with some interesting and thought provoking stuff, that much is true, but none of which is the stuff that you regularly refer to.
5 - recognizing that ceo's don't deserve what they're paid greatly changes my argument. you took the liberty of adding it back into my argument in order to try to make my point look bad.
7 - uh of course i think you're strawmanning me. that's all you ever do always? refer to #1, #3, #5 and almost every other arguing post you've written in reply to me.
oh, and everything's always so black and white with you. i don't think it's either a meritocracy or nepotism system.
but this "hey lets just hire billy because we like billy and then we'll just fucking pay him a high 6 or even 7 figure salary with amazing benefits so that he can fuck around and be a rich bastard while not attending to our multi-million/billion dollar company" is absurd. these mother fuckers all want a quality ceo who works both hard and smart because his/her direction/risks will reflect on the board of directors greatly who ultimately are always out of a job if the shareholders want it so.
but honestly gn, i'm less interested in how you misinterpret, add your petty assumptions and twist all of my arguments and more interested in why you seem like such an angry arrogant person. you're so full of yourself, and so angry. you should take model after your buddy's jon and blid. jon's distaste for capitalists seems much more sincere than your own, and blid who seemingly agrees with you on every little detail and idolizes you, is much more well grounded and rational than yourself.
i am not arguing pay vs performance for ceo's, im arguing ceo output vs average employee output. less irrelevant and unrelated sources please
also, this section of my post stabbed the very ego of yours that i was talking about so you decided to single it out right away and reply
yes, i think upper management positions, including ceo types, work much harder jobs, longer work days and actually move the needle a lot more so than the average worker they employee. there are always exceptions of course. you disagree with this. Great?
still parroting this nonsense? ok. let's look at studies.
[url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url] ([url]http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2014-07-22/for-ceos-correlation-between-pay-and-stock-performance-is-pretty-random[/url])
this study finds literally no correlation between pay and company performance, so where is the "stress" coming from exactly when they know they can fuck up and still make loads of cash? ? ? the average worker doesn't have that luxury , do they?
[url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url] ([url]http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1572085[/url])
Abstract:
We find evidence that Chief Executive Officer (CEO) pay is negatively related to future stock returns for periods up to three years after sorting on pay. For example, firms that pay their CEOs in the top ten percent of excess pay earn negative abnormal returns over the next three years of approximately -8%. The effect is stronger for CEOs who receive higher incentive pay relative to their peers and stronger for CEOs with greater tenure. Our results appear to be driven by high-pay related CEO overconfidence that leads to shareholder wealth losses from activities such as overinvestment and value-destroying mergers and acquisitions.
CEOs get paid so much they literally don't give a fuck.
i am not arguing pay vs performance for ceo's, im arguing ceo output vs average employee output. less irrelevant and unrelated sources please
a ceo fucks up he just resigns and sleeps on his mountain of cash while workers get laid off.
I'm not saying Hitler wasn't bad, I'm just saying he was deep down a good person who just wanted the best for Germany, and did a lot of good things while making a few small mistakes along the way. Please stop dishonestly characterizing my position as apologizing for Hitler.
gn - it never ends with you. you're completely full of shit and you are a filthy debater. I tried man. I tried to read your post. And yeah, I knew it would be full of twists and lies - you always switch your own argument in the slightest ways AND the change the oppositions whenever you see it beneficial to you. It's pathetic, and you do it ever so discreetly. it's always the same with you, i have to go back and review your original points and mine because just to get the real story
so i tried to read your next post, but I caught you on bullshit within the very first sentence. because of this, i gave up on reading even a spec of the rest.
But here's the issue as it pertains to ur first sentence
your argument went from
"Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol."
This is not a provable point, on either side. I denied it, and stated that I am considering a global perspective when I say CEO's work harder than the average worker and for you to suggest otherwise is an inkling of suspicion and nothing more. At the end of the day, the only thing I am denying is the accusation that i don't think of such on a global scale.
But you wouldn't let it go, so you change your argument ever so slightly (as always) to
"your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective"
First you're straight up accusing me of being unable to think of things on a global scale, from oh "well he's just not acknowledging it"
I'm sure the rest of your post is filled with slight variations of your arguments, random additions to mine made by you, and tons and tons of gray throughout your wordage to prevent people from ever truly pinning you down. i'm done with you
And just to make a pre-reply to whatever bullshit twist you'll pull out of your ass again:
If in your original post you said "your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective" then yeah, I would have agreed. i absolutely didn't use third worlder type examples or put a post-it disclaimer on my forehead "Please be advised, I take things into a global perspective not just a national one"
But that's not what you said, you claimed im incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale - and that's what I was arguing, not ur shift in argument
filthy debaterI'm not saying Hitler wasn't bad, I'm just saying he was deep down a good person who just wanted the best for Germany, and did a lot of good things while making a few small mistakes along the way. Please stop dishonestly characterizing my position as apologizing for Hitler.
perfect. thanks for posting this perfect example of how you shape and shift peoples arguments into something they aren't. you're dq'd
gn - it never ends with you. you're completely full of shit and you are a filthy debater. I tried man. I tried to read your post. And yeah, I knew it would be full of twists and lies
- you always switch your own argument in the slightest ways AND the change the oppositions whenever you see it beneficial to you. It's pathetic, and you do it ever so discreetly.
it's always the same with you, i have to go back and review your original points and mine because just to get the real story
But here's the issue as it pertains to ur first sentence
your argument went from
"Morons like Swift are completely incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale so everything this retard says is framed around THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS lol."
This is not a provable point, on either side. I denied it, and stated that I am considering a global perspective when I say CEO's work harder than the average worker and for you to suggest otherwise is an inkling of suspicion and nothing more. At the end of the day, the only thing I am denying is the accusation that i don't think of such on a global scale.
But you wouldn't let it go, so you change your argument ever so slightly (as always) to
"your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective"
First you're straight up accusing me of being unable to think of things on a global scale, from oh "well he's just not acknowledging it"
I'm sure the rest of your post is filled with slight variations of your arguments, random additions to mine made by you, and tons and tons of gray throughout your wordage to prevent people from ever truly pinning you down. i'm done with you
And just to make a pre-reply to whatever bullshit twist you'll pull out of your ass again:
If in your original post you said "your position fails to acknowledge a global perspective" then yeah, I would have agreed. i absolutely didn't use third worlder type examples or put a post-it disclaimer on my forehead "Please be advised, I take things into a global perspective not just a national one"
But that's not what you said, you claimed im incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale - and that's what I was arguing, not ur shift in argument
filthy debater
perfect. thanks for posting this perfect example of how you shape and shift peoples arguments into something they aren't.
You are dq'd due to being caught countless times distorting your very own arguments as well as your oppositions'. your posts are no longer eligible for review
you said i am " incapable of thinking of these issues on a global scale", and the so called evidence you provide for this is that its true because i didn't have anything in particular that proves otherwise within my posts. That is not logical.
so you bait and switch your argument to stating I didn't presently acknowledge anything globally -
which is true,
i don't need to read your posts and reply to every detail, you switched your argument, as you always do, and that's not how it works.
you can go create lengthy replies, and think you won something because your overall care-factor fuels your endurance to a point that far exceeds my patience with you.
but the fact remains, you changed arguments and are trying to make me defend a point that wasn't originally made.
the average worker is harder working than the average CEO, even CEOs know this.
i'm actually surprised you consider that logical. I would have that beneath even you. You're the worst, now you're even defending your illogical conclusion with illogical reasoning. you're saying that anytime someone presents an argument they have to clarify and present all the fundamental facts surrounding the subject before proceeding, or it is assumed they are not aware of such.
No, tacit information is regularly skipped over in conversation and debates, in all walks of lives, on all subjects, over and over.
it's silly and embarrassing for you, just stop.
also, the rest of your post is full of bullshit and lies to
the average worker is harder working than the average CEO, even CEOs know this.
That's fine. We completely disagree.
At least our exchange isn't like
"in my opinion ceo's work harder, longer hours, and have more stressful jobs than the average worker" - swift
"but bro, clarify in detail that you are aware these corporations employee people all around the world and not just in the states otherwise you just look stupid bro, like you're forgetting the globe man" -gn
"oh? fuck, god im an idiot. you've totally provided proof that I am unaware of capitalism's impact on workers outside the states. my first post completely makes us aware of this" -said nobody ever
yea i just don't understand how you're disagreeing with reality.
That's fine. We completely disagree.
Given me numerous times to clarify? I don't need to clarify in any real detail that I am aware of corporations taking part in global job outsourcing, running sweatshops with poor working conditions, human rights and labor law abuses etc. You can ask basically anyone about this shit, it's pretty much common knowledge at this point. Almost everyone is aware of it to some decent extent. And it's not some secret password of information that needs to be revealed before one is afforded the right to speak on his perspectives as it pertains to work loads/duties in our capitalist society.
I'm sorry you assumed I was drawing borders to our growing global capitalist society. You had no reason to do so, and no reason can be used to conclude as to why a reasonable person would assume such. Like I said, the information you want clarified is tacit information, and you're dumb for arguing that it needs to be stated.
yea i just don't understand how you're disagreeing with reality.
That's fine. We completely disagree.
"our comparison of an executive's "hard work" to the working class never discussed the absolutely deplorable conditions the majority of the world's working class works in, the hours they work for, the wages they make, the effect of their labor on themselves and their families and communities."
actually, it did
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.
p.s. i covered it twice
A lot of the CEO leeches do work like 75 hours a week and grind their teeth in their sleep and take tons of speed etc. Like the proletariat needs to be liberated from exploitation, these bougies too need to be liberated, from their lives.
thats all i am saying. minus the liberation from their lives part of course O_o
interesting that you would guess teeth grinding to be a significant problem. my business is obviously only small scale and i am not dealing with the same stress as these types we talk about probably do, and i work more like 60 hr/wk but i grind hardcore and have massive sleep problems.
I WAS WAITING FOR IT.
this shit right here literally gets me belly laughing
p.s.s. i currently am directly affiliated with outsourcing approximately 15 jobs to individuals in countries like the Philippines, India, Bangladeshi, el Salvador and so forth.
Some of these individuals act as virtual assistants for tech jobs, marketing and as well as customer relations in acquisitions & sales, other's are employed by companies who hire them to produce certain goods for us at discounted prices. In every scenerio, we are in direct communication with the labour
lets talk about this next.
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.
p.s. i covered it twice
I looked and I did not find it. I was courteous enough to link you to one of my previous posts to clarify an issue, if you are participating in this discussion in good faith it should not be a problem to do the same. Especially if you are sure you said this, it should be fairly simple to find the post and link me to it, or to at least quote the relevant portion, as I have done for you.
it's not my job to keep you up to par. something tells me you'll find it anyway. you're dedicated.
p.s. i covered it twice
I looked and I did not find it. I was courteous enough to link you to one of my previous posts to clarify an issue, if you are participating in this discussion in good faith it should not be a problem to do the same. Especially if you are sure you said this, it should be fairly simple to find the post and link me to it, or to at least quote the relevant portion, as I have done for you.
the guy lives in his parents basement.
is swift very intelligent? yes.
does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.
the guy lives in his parents basement.
is swift very intelligent? yes.
does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.
I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum
Post the money, swiftone.
p.s.s. i currently am directly affiliated with outsourcing approximately 15 jobs to individuals in countries like the Philippines, India, Bangladeshi, el Salvador and so forth.
Some of these individuals act as virtual assistants for tech jobs, marketing and as well as customer relations in acquisitions & sales, other's are employed by companies who hire them to produce certain goods for us at discounted prices. In every scenerio, we are in direct communication with the labour
lets talk about this next.
We've posted for like 4 pages, and some of them are rather long posts. You can search anytime you want.
However, I'll paraphrase - basically I stated that there are many individuals who have poor working conditions, and that these are the exceptions to the rule / [and I am not taking such into account with my argument as it's not measurable.
the guy lives in his parents basement.
is swift very intelligent? yes.
does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.
I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
([url]http://i.imgur.com/HUG77qv.jpg[/url])
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum
Rofl shut the fuck up you stupid little hypocrite bitch. He's being a douche but you're the one who initiated the douche-off and now that you got called out you're trying to act like you're better than him.
So 15k is your max?
wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure
tk - gauging by the smile on your face in that pic it seems you're pretty thrilled to have $2700. poor much?i was smiling because when i was taking it i knew "this will make swift squirm"
"check out this money i'm about to give to my landlord"
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol
$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk
you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up
even if that were the case (which it isnt..) i'd still have 1900 cash after i paid the landlord
if you're paying 2700 for rent you're probably living in san diego or NYC.
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol
$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk
you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up
if you could pull out 2700 in the next hour and take your picture or whatever i'd be convinced you're not some extremely intelligent bum living off of disability or your parent's allowance.
right now im pretty convinced that's exactly what you are. a very smart person probably riding on the coat tails of your parents who fabricates a life to impress people online.. and you're smart enough to make lots of people believe it.
the reason i don't believe it is because i know a lot of people in construction and real-estate and none of them piddle fuck on the internet 12 hours a day... they are out getting the money that they dont need to pretend to have because everyone knows they have it including themselves.
rofl look at this douchebag. showing off all his cash on an online forum
Rofl shut the fuck up you stupid little hypocrite bitch. He's being a douche but you're the one who initiated the douche-off and now that you got called out you're trying to act like you're better than him.
I'm afraid to dive into this with you just to see you change both your argument and mine over the course of 3-4 pages.
Post $50, jon.
money doesn't make someone a baller. especially only 15k lol
$2,700 wouldn't shut you up tk
you would just be at it again. pick an amount that will shut you up
if you could pull out 2700 in the next hour and take your picture or whatever i'd be convinced you're not some extremely intelligent bum living off of disability or your parent's allowance.
right now im pretty convinced that's exactly what you are. a very smart person probably riding on the coat tails of your parents who fabricates a life to impress people online.. and you're smart enough to make lots of people believe it.
the reason i don't believe it is because i know a lot of people in construction and real-estate and none of them piddle fuck on the internet 12 hours a day... they are out getting the money that they dont need to pretend to have because everyone knows they have it including themselves.
drive to bank for just $2,700? not worth it, no thanks.
"check out this money i'm about to give to my landlord"
LOL
how is taking a picture with 2700 showing off. there is nothing impressive about that.i agree. why are you doing it?
tk - gauging by the smile on your face in that pic it seems you're pretty thrilled to have $2700. poor much?
LOL POOR PEOPLEPost $50, jon.
lmfao
LOL POOR PEOPLEPost $50, jon.
lmfao
LOL POOR PEOPLEPost $50, jon.
lmfao
So 15k is your max?
wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure
the guy lives in his parents basement.
is swift very intelligent? yes.
does he earn more than a full time mcdonald's employee? not likely.
I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
So 15k is your max?
wow... some people really want me to do this. hrm... peer pressure
So your not gonna post the money...??[emoji47]
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Probably the best way to salvage your dignity at this point is to say you were drunk all day and apologize for being such a worthless retarded turd.
tk's trolling and lighthearted as always, blid's at least mildly amused, evil ryu is saddened by the lack of money pics, jon is concerned about the poor people and you're over here acting like it's some serious business.
your perspective on this is as twisted as my arguments become after you've had the chance to reword them and reply
can't tell if you twisted and contorted everything in your head throughout the course of twisting and contorting each of our arguments or if you just all of a sudden came up with the idea that you won something
also, you should stop exploiting your employer by scrolling the inter webs all day. i can't imagine what other sites you regularly subscribe to 24/7
bitches about how the system works, meanwhile contributes nothing to society and gets a free ride^
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...[emoji46]
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Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...[emoji46]
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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...[emoji46]
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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.
Hmm, I wanna see a poll.
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Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I didn't like how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Nothing EVER makes any sense to you, I am starting to get worried...[emoji46]
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Thanks for contributing, retard who no one cares about or likes.
Hmm, I wanna see a poll.
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Post one, if you're not a pussy.
I don't care man, I'll let you do it. You seem to love the attention.
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Where's the money Swift? Lol, fucking loser.
Where's the money Swift? Lol, fucking loser.
How much? $2,700?
Did anyone post $3000 in this thread yet?
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I don't like or support how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
Also that doesn't even make any sense. If I don't like or support how the system works why should I contribute to it? Swift's dumb, retarded ass that could never run a "business" without the privileges afforded him by society/his parents owned by logic yet again.
you're thinking about it all wrong. what i am saying is that you're a lazy free loader who adopted your current favored economic and political spectrum as a means to rationalize your pitiful lifestyle.
now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do. meanwhile, you'll do no more impact in your life than dedicate your time to being mediocre at video games and being a cheat debater on forums over a topic that you're slightly more educated than the average person on. i think this forums halts your maturity too, you haven't grown up one bit. aside from the tk trolling stuff i stay pretty calm, mature and respectful on here nowadays, including the whole time i talk to you, meanwhile you're going around saying "lol you're such a faggot" and calling people names and treating people like evil~ryi like shit and it seems like to you it's a school yard fight in grade school...i can't even begin to wrap my head around how much of a punk kid you are.
call me a rager or something, but i really had a good time writing this out and i hope the mild truths in it about you bother you a bit even though you'll never show it because these forums are like your stomping grounds...lol
Post the $$$.
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
Post the $$$.
Post the $$$.
how much? pick a higher amount
tk, we went over this. i was on every day after 5-6 pm pst, yes. and it lasted for like 2 months straight... now you're actng like i was on all day period and thats cute- so far from the truth.
i was at least having fun with your ridiculous claim, i wasn't even on 5-11 everyday.
anyway, here's the facts: i had a couple month period where i was on a good decent amount of nights after i got off work. you change it to ALL day, EVERY day like I have no job OR social life. funny stuff, of course i'ma troll along
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc
you don't need to lie and insult everyone's intelligence just to make friends or impress people online.
swift... i already said you can post 10 or 20k
i dont know why you're still talking. i think you made it pretty clear you don't even have 2K. you said you could or would do something and then didnt do it.
you're not a wealthy real estate mogul. there's nothing wrong with that. nobody here cares. you don't need to lie and insult everyone's intelligence just to make friends or impress people online.
And if you respond today, I'm going to need a 24 hour timeline cuz the banks be closed.
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc
"I think its wrong that rich people are allowed to be as rich as they are" *uses poor as an insult*
You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.
You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees. and don't use your puppet master analogy here.
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
blid/evil~ryu can take tk[as]'s place since he dodged.
your starting statement is obviously a narrow minded black and white view, and is absent from reality.
to answer your first question, yes.
as for the second, i guess which one I would fall into according to you would depend on what arbitrary classes you adhere to. care to share?you just said low class and middle class people have low iqs, so i'm assuming you think you're part of a higher class? lol.
Post money in this thread!
Damn, can someone PLEASE just step up and tell Swift how much to money to show off so he can quit owning the entire message board so hard? Ownage like this hasn't been seen here since the days of BiZaTcH's rampage.
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
I gave you like 4 specific amounts ranging from 2500 - 20,000 ... this whole idea was yours and now you're making BS excuses Lol. Its ok. I proved my point. You're a compulsive liar who fabricates shit to gain respect from people online. That's all I really wanted to show people.
20,000
There. A specific amount.
I will be back for the lol's tomorrow when you don't post it.. and probably come up with some b******* reasons as to why not
Everyone watch Oregon local news.. there's probably going to be a string of robberies in the next 24hours
Post the fucking money!
will you stop picking on me and be my friend if i admit you are right tk?
Swift started this thread saying he agreed capitalists enjoy unjust social privilege and the degree to which society enriches them is wrong, accused people who said he didn't believe this line of being liars, and ended it by saying everything he's earned in life is because of how great he is and posting money to impress strangers on the internet.
You've got about a 7 minute window before I am back to the bank blid, doors unlocked.I have your mom's address, is that the right one?
Swift started this thread saying he agreed capitalists enjoy unjust social privilege and the degree to which society enriches them is wrong, accused people who said he didn't believe this line of being liars, and ended it by saying everything he's earned in life is because of how great he is and posting money to impress strangers on the internet.
good.... good.... let the obliviousness flow through you. i'm just here to get a rise, meanwhile you read my posts and take random movie quotes that i pull off from the internet as my actual opinions. just go out and say it, i'm everything you hate and if/when your revolution for a socialist utopia takes place you hope I get shot in the head for all my wrongdoings like all those other capitalist scum. hell, you'll probably take the liberty of tracking me down yourself to shoot me in the back of the head once there is enough social unrest and/or laws permitting such. only then will you be powerful enough to... ok fuck it i'll stop, have a nice day.
he literally just emptied his bank account and entire savings just so he can show it to a dumb redneck who thought $2700 was something significant enough to post about, now swift has to go back to the bank to deposit it back. what the fuck is this!
Yes, I coincidentally only have $58,250 dollars, the exact amount of all individual amounts asked to be posted. You got me. Anyway, you can have your thread back now.
The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.
i will admit i was wrong. you seem to have plenty of money.
still a retard though.
Finally, the moment I was waiting for. I will now break into swiftone's house and steal the money.
u dont know what bitches flocking to you means .. they might want your money, but they want my dick inside of them no strings attached
good news everyone.. i'm power washing a house and a deck this friday for $175 so i'll be able to post like 2,900 next time.
good news everyone.. i'm power washing a house and a deck this friday for $175 so i'll be able to post like 2,900 next time.
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here's a little insight tk -
1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does
2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.
3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one
here's a little insight tk -
1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does
2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.
3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one
You are mentally disturbed and should seek professional help.
here's a little insight tk -
1. money doesn't make someone a baller no matter how much you think it does
2. just because someone has money doesn't mean they go around traveling the world, driving nice cars, fucking everyone and doing every which drug or buying 10 houses and living some fantasy life. nevertheless, you think i'm on war2 way more than i am. i haven't been on the game in months, and i never played mid day like u said, not in a long time have i done that with any regularity. also, aside from that day with gn like 3-4 days ago i am pretty much absent from the forums for the most part, with a few posts here and there.
3. as for getting more pussy than a rich guy, you have no idea. i'll let you on a little secret that you aren't aware of, guys with money can go to bars and women just flock to them, it's like they smell it. here's one reason, besides the fact that you don't got much money, that you aren't aware of this. You know that girls will downplay the truth when asked by fat/ugly guys if looks matter, "oh looks matter a little but personality is most important" but you, as a moderate to good looking guy know that that same girl will ditch that fat ugly fuck in a half second at the club as soon as a good looking guy bats an eye at her. It's the same with $, women say it's not as important as things like looks/personality. But when people with normal $/careers aren't around, they'll fully admit that guys with $, good careers etc turn them on and that they are attracted to money, and they are turned on and consider such guys alpha, etc. some of even are bad enough to admit they only like u for your money etc. it's not like a small percentage of women who are like this either, it's the majority. it wouldn't even be fair, i'd need to go bankrupt first before we compete on that one
You are mentally disturbed and should seek professional help.
What have we been doing this whole time then? Are you telling me that you can't help me and that you're going to need to refer me to another doctor?
if i were single i'd still crush more dime ass pussy than you. bitches love me and my lack of wealth
if i were single i'd still crush more dime ass pussy than you. bitches love me and my lack of wealth
well neither of us are single so i guess we can compete on this one as well.
it's comedy that you pick the next category to be women when we all know you date a stripper, and an ugly one at that... and then you want us to believe that you can pick up good looking women
or maybe this is just a ploy for you to get a pic of my gf, if so it worked;
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you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2
i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething
honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.
I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
i don't make great efforts to get anyone to know anything about me. i'm just saying if it'll make you shut up (and feel dumb), and give me a pseudo win over you, then i am willing to prove otherwise but you'd need to let me know what amount would truly make you feel like you're an idiot and not smart and like you're 0-1. everyone has $2700, that wont do it
now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc
You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.
You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees. and don't use your puppet master analogy here.
you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2
i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething
honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.
capitalism and its sick ideals are definitely to blame for this behaviour.
right. commodity fetishism of women was created under capitalism.
Well, the currently existing form of it, yeah. It's telling how Swift naturally progressed from bragging about how much money he has to bragging about the fact that he has a GF and she meets or exceeds the beauty standards established by capitalist patriarchy.
he has npd
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CAPITALISM lacks defenders these days- yea not enough reactionary shitheads today spewing irrational and inexplicable love for capitalism.
The revival of anti-capitalist rhetoric owes much to the financial crisis of 2008 and its aftermath. The crisis was merely the latest example of the inherent stability of capitalism
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I would say his mental illness is also to blame but mental illness is caused by capitalism, as well.
I would say his mental illness is also to blame but mental illness is caused by capitalism, as well.
That's right GN, I'm a victim.
Symptoms discovered thus far include excess wealth/massive residual income and dating women that look like super models.
Symptoms discovered thus far include excess wealth/massive residual income and dating women that look like super models.
You forgot a crippling lack of self esteem that requires you to post about these things in great detail on an internet forum to strangers.
Staying on topic of sharing with strangers, I donated to a couple of schools in Eugene this year. I suppose you'll blame my self esteem for helping strangers too. Maybe you'll even blame my incredibly gracious donations for the recent shooting.
Staying on topic of sharing with strangers, I donated to a couple of schools in Eugene this year. I suppose you'll blame my self esteem for helping strangers too. Maybe you'll even blame my incredibly gracious donations for the recent shooting.
About 2 hours south
Shut up fag.
Shut up fag.
I can't figure out why you hate me when I do more things to be a great person than you do. How can you even look down on me when I donate more and say good things to people I don't even like?
So your saying that you'll debate anything except how you try and step on people. Basically you'd be a douche regardless of capitalism. My self esteem hinges on your reply! Or maybe yours is tied into mine now.
Only you get caught lying in your own posts. I feel bad enough that I would mentor you in exchange for an apology
Only you get caught lying in your own posts.
i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething
honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.
I Like you tk. Let's do something fun. You pick a $ amount that you don't think I have available liquid right now, I'll go to the bank right now and withdrawal that much and take a picture of it right in front of one of your posts and send it to you or post here. I really personally just want to see how you react
i don't make great efforts to get anyone to know anything about me. i'm just saying if it'll make you shut up (and feel dumb), and give me a pseudo win over you, then i am willing to prove otherwise but you'd need to let me know what amount would truly make you feel like you're an idiot and not smart and like you're 0-1. everyone has $2700, that wont do it
now you proceed to make excuses as to why others are successful and not you, to make yourself feel better and you use me as an example. my parents don't help me at all, and my privilege although hugely prevalent to worldy standards, being that I am a white male american, i still have no more opportunity or privilege than others in that same catagory, such as you. i am not exceptionally smart, i didn't get a free ride through college, i didn't meet the right people who helped me to become successful, but i did go flat broke once three years ago, and i have been homeless twice already at 26, and started my first business off of a very small amount of $
if you compare me just to those who its fair to compare me to, you'll see the only thing i had that made me excel is sickening motivation and work ethic. tomorrow, i'll get up at 4 am and begin reviewing documents in order to buy out another company, you'll wake up at 8 and fuck ur fat gf and proceed to play video games or some shit.
The same results i received on war2 are those that are the norm for me in real life, because i have relentless focus and determination in everything i do.
anyway, obviously i am not going to post $2,700... only poor people who think thats not a small amount of money and are broke working for someone else, making them rich, would do that. i won't consider any challenge under 10k. there you have it. give me a specific amount that meets the minimum, and put some pennies on it idc
You still don't get it. I don't think you really understand what the corporate ladder is about. It's about conflict management. Now you know. Now. You. Know.
You get paid more the higher up the ladder you go, but they're hiring you and promoting you for your ability to manage conflict in things like.... stress, responsibility, low IQ individuals (middle/poor class people), large projects, etc. Now you see what I am doing. I'm practicing my ability to manage conflict with low income individuals like yourself, like CEO's do with their employees. and don't use your puppet master analogy here.
you posted a nude body shot of your girl, and of course mine isn't a slut like yours so i won't do that but i'll get as close as i can to matching it. asked her if i could post this pic on a small community gamer forum. shes a solid 8 1/2
i take no pride in the place i am within my life and i am not going around thinking i am better off than others with less than me or smething
honestly none of this shit is a bragging point that we should be talking about. money, women, material, meaningless.
Fresh air hot women and good food .
Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.
Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.
Pfft whatever.
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Should have been their throats. Never leave a labor aristocrat to do a proletarian's job.
Pfft whatever.
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Got something to say bitch?
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capitalism is the root of all evil you retarded piece of shit - i don't know why you're being sarcastic.
Doctors Without Borders says its Afghan hospital 'was deliberately bombed'
this asshole is the executive director of human rights watch lmao
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hmmm...very intredasting. perhaps the two are connected somehow???
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Why Does College Cost Too Much? Ask Karl Marx.
High tuition prices = Marxism. OH.
Even JPMorgan suffered during the market mayhem - CNNare u dumb? don't post capitalist-apologia here u cripple
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Even JPMorgan suffered during the market mayhem - CNNare u dumb? don't post capitalist-apologia here u cripple
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ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
You + Welfare + Retard = [emoji200]
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ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
You + Welfare + Retard = [emoji200]
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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.
ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
You + Welfare + Retard = [emoji200]
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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.
The equation isn't saying that welfare makes you retarded you moron. Being Yourself, a Piny Pony, PLUS being on welfare PLUS being mentally retarded ALL makes you (= ) a [emoji200] (swine).
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ISIS = Turkey = NATO = United $nakes of Amerikkka
You + Welfare + Retard = [emoji200]
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I am not retarded, and I'm not sure how receiving welfare benefits would make me so. Basically, your post makes no sense.
The equation isn't saying that welfare makes you retarded you moron. Being Yourself, a Piny Pony, PLUS being on welfare PLUS being mentally retarded ALL makes you (= ) a [emoji200] (swine).
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That makes a little more sense but is also retarded because the facts you state about me are untrue, and even if they were, it is not at all logical they would make me a pig.
Hey Ryu, 9/11 and cops getting killed is funny, lol. You're mad now, haha.
... thinking of brutally murdered....
... thinking of brutally murdered....
All day long....I'd imagine [emoji50]
You torture small animals for fun also? [emoji54]
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... thinking of brutally murdered....
All day long....I'd imagine [emoji50]
You torture small animals for fun also? [emoji54]
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Small animals are innocent and beautiful creatures, as opposed to cops, who deserve pain, suffering, and death for their misdeeds.
"All cats are ghey." -Robert Smith
Cats are win.
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'The end of feminism'. pic.twitter.com/bWEpxLQD6F
The front cover of this week's Spectator magazine:
— Philip Sime (@PhilipSimeITV) October 21, 2015
'The end of feminism'. pic.twitter.com/bWEpxLQD6F
sometimes, actually most of the time, i feel humanity is a big failure.
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The front cover of this week's Spectator magazine:
— Philip Sime (@PhilipSimeITV) October 21, 2015
'The end of feminism'. pic.twitter.com/bWEpxLQD6F
sometimes, actually most of the time, i feel humanity is a big failure.
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70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."
Invalid Tweet IDlol i saw some headlines but hadnt watched this til now. cop struggling to apprehend a 12yo girl who isnt even resisting, lol. what a violent uncoordinated retard
Invalid Tweet IDlol i saw some headlines but hadnt watched this til now. cop struggling to apprehend a 12yo girl who isnt even resisting, lol. what a violent uncoordinated retard
I am just confused as to how a person with a violent history was even allowed to be a SRO in the first place [emoji50]
The SRO's in my high school merely tried to fuck/rape 14 and 15 year old white girls (and probably succeeded on numerous occasions).
70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."
70% of CEOs' effect on company performance can be attributed to random chance. "CEOs can't be shown to add any value to the companies they run."
retarded^
such a broker loser nerd word "caremad"
i don't need to rebuttal against tacit fiction. jon may be far smarter than yourself, but some of the shit he says takes shit for brainshm, it was a study. lol. and this isn't the only study done that shows ceo's worthlessness.
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.
you will never be part of the ruling class, always will be in the working class. act like it, idiot.
you will never be part of the ruling class, always will be in the working class. act like it, idiot.
why would i do that when it's too easy for guys like me (smart,
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.
The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.
why would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.
The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.
that makes no sense. also, plenty of superior-types like myself are often confused for gloating merely for being ourselves... sometimes i forget that having an exceptional life isn't common place for you people and i talk about it as if it's no big deal
there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. in other words, i'm here to help you guys become successful, by empowering you to actually do something useful with your lives from here on out. it's just another one of my great deeds.
shut up worker bee
also, you are an internet bully who contributed to the suicide of one our own
aka i win, now we're at 6-0
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head
in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die
and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die
a lack of class consciousness is no joke idiotwhy would i be, i'm a better person and have a better life than you.
The fact that you need to engage in this sort of public self-aggrandizement implies that you don't really believe this yourself, and perhaps that's what you're caremad about. Cheers.
that makes no sense. also, plenty of superior-types like myself are often confused for gloating merely for being ourselves... sometimes i forget that having an exceptional life isn't common place for you people and i talk about it as if it's no big deal
there is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. in other words, i'm here to help you guys become successful, by empowering you to actually do something useful with your lives from here on out. it's just another one of my great deeds.
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head
in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die
That's not true Swift, and it is cynical and heartless of you to use Soth's suicide to attack me, not to mention insulting to Soth to imply that he cared enough about me giving him shit along with the rest of the forum to kill himself over it. But you are the emotionally healthy, smart, and not mad person here, lol.
sounds like some more troll posts that go over your head
in any case, not surprised you jump over point about how you contribute to suicide of soth considering you showed no remose and continued to be a pos to tman amoung many others and talk daily about how you want hundreds of thousands of americans to die
That's not true Swift, and it is cynical and heartless of you to use Soth's suicide to attack me, not to mention insulting to Soth to imply that he cared enough about me giving him shit along with the rest of the forum to kill himself over it. But you are the emotionally healthy, smart, and not mad person here, lol.
Hey look, GN actually getting a serious post from me for once -
But oh god, I have to now... YOU just used the word heartless. That's just hypocritical as fuck.
It's known how you acted toward him prior. I definitely didn't say he killed himself over the shit you said, although I am saying it's possible you made the situation worse, or played a small CONTRIBUTING FACTOR towards his state of mind / emotional well-being prior to such. It's not like you could have known what he was going through, and i genuinely think that if you did you would have taken it easy on him, but the issue is that you never cleaned up your act afterwards. I go around acting like a clown, saying people blow at war2, their broke and have a fat mom, and i'm sure I've left a few bruises from time to time but for the most part people don't take me seriously, my insults are almost all completely untrue and people just pass me over as a clown/troll/moron/idiot. You however, you actively try to stab people and you're seriously ill intent about it.
Tman is just one example, but you were a total piece of shit to him. And I don't even like that guy, he tried to claim he had a program or whatever that proves I edited an ss and it was a total lie on his part. I'm sure half the people you harass with your shit don't care, like tk obviously you gave him shit and that guy just brushes everything off and doesn't seem to give a crap what anyone says.
P.S. He was suicidal, so of course the way you treated him most likely had an impact on him. The shit you say effects everyone to some degree, so how wouldn't it have effected someone in the mental state that he was in. That's not a question, as it's pretty obvious a suicidal person would take things someone else says even harder than someone in a more stable mental/emotional state. So don't give me that shit about it's insulting to suggest he cared what you said to him
I knew you wouldn't be able to just settle with "lmfao," the truth is too unsettling to you for that.
p.s. that wasn't actually my girlfriend. the irony of derailing an anti-capitalism thread by coming in and having arguments over money, women, social/class status, etc seemed to have completely went over your head, and you took it as serious biz
your stupidity really shined when you began compiling quotes of me directly contradicting myself and my values post after post, despite that it's obvious I was doing so deliberately.
yours of which were very serious, because you caremad'd so much.
did i use that word correctly, nerd?
lol, i'm struggling to accept that you're really so socially inept that you can't realize how overwhelmingly likely it is that someone would have to be kidding to be directly contracting himself back and forth every other post like I was. In any case, you're assuming that I'm suggesting I'm doing it in attempt to own people, i'm unarguably just fucking around, but "owning" people has nothing to do with it - you're the only one interested in "owning" peopleyour stupidity really shined when you began compiling quotes of me directly contradicting myself and my values post after post, despite that it's obvious I was doing so deliberately.
Lol yeah because you definitely don't have a history for being a dishonest liar and hypocrite, it was definitely "obvious" that just more of the same from you was actually 11 dimensional chess trolling.yours of which were very serious, because you caremad'd so much.
did i use that word correctly, nerd?
No, because I wasn't caremad, you were, and you still are, as evidenced by your desperate attempts to write off your ridiculous attempts to own me and TK and others as ironic trolling, which fool nobody.
i'm trying to use your approach, the "lol you mad bro?", despite the fact that it's ridiculous that you would interpret me to be anything other than amused by myself
get ready for a sweet run on sentence:
hassan-i-sabbotagh in an nutshell:
but it really comes all full circle here, because you see it's you who is mad and you're mad because unlike me, you have nothing going for you in your life aside from being moderately well-read on Marxist philosophy, which you only adopted as your personal socioeconomic ideology as a means to justify your lackadaisical work-ethic, and your free rider who gives back nothing to society approach, which is demonstrated by your volume browsing habits during your work schedule, in which on one of the forums you choose to particular that we know of (forum.war2.ru), where you then go use your ideology to belittle people and scare them away from the forums (and are only able to do so because they aren't as well-read on one particular subject as you) all under your false pretense of you pretending to care about humanity and not wanting people to be exploited by evil capitalists and by the nature of capitalism itself, which we all know is just a disguise proven by your apathy towards the people on this forum and borderline sadistic desire to see millions die, as well as just make people feel like shit on here.
here, i'll throw you a bone since you're retarded - i don't believe anything i said in that previous post.
well, except for you being a sadistic fuck. that much is obvious. you and smeagol should be buddy buddy. i don't know if i'll ever forgive you for how you treated soth and turtleman
lol, i'm struggling to accept that you're really so socially inept that you can't realize how overwhelmingly likely it is that someone would have to be kidding to be directly contracting himself back and forth every other post like I was. In any case, you're assuming that I'm suggesting I'm doing it in attempt to own people, i'm unarguably just fucking around, but "owning" people has nothing to do with it - you're the only one interested in "owning" people
lets not talk about which one of us expends too much effort/time on the forums.... lmao
p.s. plenty are aware, just not you because you're a fucktard ;p hell even tk was made aware of it, even if he didn't pick up on it pretty quick
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Protip: You can't really do "I'm cynically manipulating you by pretending to be a classist, misogynist asshole for days on end" and "I am morally outraged at your cyberbullying" at the same time, you have to pick one.
I don't really care if you forgive me or not for making fun of people on the internet, fursonally.
Protip: You can't really do "I'm cynically manipulating you by pretending to be a classist, misogynist asshole for days on end" and "I am morally outraged at your cyberbullying" at the same time, you have to pick one.
I don't really care if you forgive me or not for making fun of people on the internet, fursonally.
Yeah, actually I can. Me acting like an asshole who worships money, or sees women as objects doesn't really offend anyone. It's obnoxious, stupid and those who think it's serious just look down on it or me. At worst case, I might directly pick on a few people who I know don't give a fuck by saying their gf has saggy tits or they blow at war2, etc. All of my insults are just over the top stuff thats untrue. I don't actually push people off the forums / bully suicidal people / wish death upon people / have malicious intent to verbally stab people. Even your cronies, although maybe sharing some of your radical death wish views, act like decent human beings on here.
You're totally out to be an asshole to people for the sake of hurting their feelings, it's beyond twisted trolling/humor, and you want to play the "oh nobody gives a fuck on the forum" card when you know as well as everyone does that for every person on here that doesn't care there's another that does. but you act stupid to save face. meanwhile, everyone who reads this and has seen u post over the years knows its true. you'll try to save face with some post whether its a simple "lol" type or long disect of every sentence i've said, and you'll convince yourself in your mind that your post somehow trumps what was said, and you'll go on, but irregardless the truth remains and everyone knows it. Which sucks for you, because while everyone else is being light-hearted or doing prolonged over the top trolling like myself, you just simply care about your image on here.
There's something to be said with someone who has such strong negative feelings towards the evils of capitalism and hardships it puts on his fellow man, yet on an individual level looks to go around and treat people like shit who he doesn't even know. The first is noble and just, and the second makes you wonder if his heart is even in the right place.
And of course you don't care who you bully, you're apathetic and only care about your forum glory.
Hell, I remember one time feat going off about how much of a jackass you are when he was on vent
shut up worker bee, your greatest ambition in life is to achieve forum glory so your pride is high... i get that, but take a second to realize what you have done to some of these poor souls
stop being a horrible human being fuckboi
how long did you stare at it for? listen, you need to stop being a condescending human being. do you really think that of all the people who you ran off these forums, that if the group had to choose between you and having all of them, they'd choose you? you'd be gone in a heartbeat you selfish shell fish
i want turtleman back
now go compile a list of all the other people you've ran off the forums over the years
you've got some apologizing to do dirt bag
of course you don't, you're a borderline sociopath
remorse to you will never be anything more to you than a word in the dictionary
I donate more money in a month than you make in a year, which is about equal to the amount of people you've ran off this forum sociopath
There you go again, trying to dissect things with no ground to stand on. Why don't you try to evaluate why your soul is a blackhole instead and figure out why you aren't giving out countless overdo apologies
i don't know if you're more upset that I am better person than you, or that you make so little
Again, it makes no sense why a real estate tycoon, like myself, would have any reason to get upset while talking down to a worker bee. this conversation wouldn't have begun in the first place if you didn't harbor some form of resentment and jealousy towards me.
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.
As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.
But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.
I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?
You guys are both extremely mad online. Only I, permanently detached and cool, am above it all.
US to Deploy Special Operations Forces in Syria: Official
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The U.S. will send a small number of U.S. special operations forces into Syria as part of a shift in its strategy against ISIS, officials said Friday.
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I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.
As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.
But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.
I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?
You sound mad still. Doesn't it get tiring being mad for so long?
I have no idea why you would say I was mad. I am definitely not, and never was. Though, calling someone mad who is not is a near bullet proof way to make them such - so if thats your agenda, keep to it and I'll let you know once it works.
As for who got personal? I have to laugh at that one. You do realize that when we first talking non-stop in this thread like twenty pages ago, you were using ad hominem right off the get go and I didn't respond in kind until pages later? Lmao at how blatantly wrong you are sometimes. And you wonder why I just fuck around with you, say random shit, and don't take things seriously - because you're full of shit. You're over the top ridiculous and wrong all the time.
But I don't like that I had to touch on that, as I'm not finding facts to be humorous today, and I am not about to let the truth get in a way of a good time.
I really think we should break down the root of the problem here. I can't decide if it's because you're butt ugly or broke... whats your problem with me being a success story?
You sound mad still. Doesn't it get tiring being mad for so long?
Mad about what? You tried to argue against me using points I already covered, like work conditions etc, prior to you even coming in. Then you twisted arguments.
mad that you're a broke nerd who spends almost every day on forums trying to sound smart and get forum glory and has a shitty job going no where? :D
nerd who spends all day every day for over a decade arguing on forums, belittling people and seeking forum glory tells someone on the forums they're mad :D
are police part of the working class?
Pigs confuse me. They're just wage earners, in third world countries they're like getting poverty level wages, but mindlessly defend their wealthy owners.
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Raul Castro tells reporter in Panama he will step down at end of his term in 2018. "I want to go to Miami," he jokes http://t.co/lI3eHGQOT5
— Nick Miroff (@NickMiroff) April 13, 2015
but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.
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what are u talking about?but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.
lol if you think thats gonna last
what are u talking about?but being shut down by opposition with cooler heads.
lol if you think thats gonna last
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Hundreds of civilians killed in US-led air strikes on Isis targets – report
Airwars project details ‘credible reports’ of at least 459 non-combatant deaths, including 100 children, in 52 air strikes
yea that should stop terrorism.
lol the "syrian observatory of human rights" btw is just one guy in london
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Sanders isn't wrong in the sense that mass immigration is a policy encouraged by the capitalist class to undermine organized labor in the imperial core. His error is creating a false dichotomy between neoliberal "open borders" policy and a more restrictive and protectionist immigration policy, essentially the National Socialist position, while completely eschewing the only realistic solution to the problem, the building of an international worker's movement to topple global capitalism once and for all. Cheers.
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Sanders isn't wrong in the sense that mass immigration is a policy encouraged by the capitalist class to undermine organized labor in the imperial core. His error is creating a false dichotomy between neoliberal "open borders" policy and a more restrictive and protectionist immigration policy, essentially the National Socialist position, while completely eschewing the only realistic solution to the problem, the building of an international worker's movement to topple global capitalism once and for all. Cheers.
Chears.
https://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/
It hurt really bad and I remember yelling "you're breaking the NAP" and things like that. "Stop initiating force against me."
fascist gets ownedhttps://np.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/
lollllll
i think it's ironic as fuck that the inspiration for advocates of "free" markets and capitalists would probably be a socialist today.
This is a pretty intredasting book I've been reading off and on the past year that talks a lot about that stuff, including Smith specifically https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism)Check out this poster that after a full year hasn't managed to finish a book. Need help sounding out the big words? LOL...
This is a pretty intredasting book I've been reading off and on the past year that talks a lot about that stuff, including Smith specifically https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1107750.The_Invention_of_Capitalism)Check out this poster that after a full year hasn't managed to finish a book. Need help sounding out the big words? LOL...
For you, maybe, because your own pace seems to be limited by severe literacy problems.
am i the only one on earth that doesn't play video games
am i the only one on earth that doesn't play video gamesNo video games, eh? That's weird. What do you do, browse reddit and watch Netflix?
i haven't even been using netflix. i do a lot of reading and watching youtube videos, buzzerbeater.com, yahoo nba fantasy. and yea making fun of liberals on reddit.
how do you avoid those creepy gamergate dweebs when you're playing online , they're a festering infestation on the gaming community.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi (https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi)
https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/BestOfOutrageCulture/)
"SJW are people, who are so far left, that they are racist/fascist."[...]"In short: people, who are left and want to force left ideas on others by tactics Hitler used."
"Political correctness has literally killed millions."
"the feminists will succeed in completely castrating their own Swedish, white society that is already failing because of the pussification."
https://pplswar.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/bernie-sanders-marxist-translator/
lawl
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[url]http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/[/url] ([url]http://www.thenation.com/article/why-this-socialist-feminist-is-for-hillary/[/url])
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— Sean Gentille (@seangentille) December 17, 2015
There's vomit on his hoodie already; Martin Shkreli🎵 pic.twitter.com/4mKvrOj8wp
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One of my faves.
Dawn Amos, 67, died as a result of suffering chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a collection of lung diseases.
It left her with difficulty breathing, unable to walk for long periods of time, dress herself or do daily tasks independently.
She received attendance allowance from the Department of Work and Pensions to help with the cost of her personal care.
Heartbroken husband Mick Amos, 64, of Masefield Road, Braintree, discovered a letter sent from the department two days after his wife’s death.
It notified Mrs Amos that her allowance was being withdrawn based on ‘treatment, medication, symptoms and test results’.
It had been sent on the day, November 27, Mr Amos had taken the decision to turn off Dawn’s life support machine.
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https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/ (https://www.rt.com/usa/328709-pennsylvania-officer-kills-girl/)newb this was posted a day ago in the ban guns thread
A Pennsylvania constable fatally shot a 12-year-old girl during an attempt to evict her family from their home. The bullet was fired at the girl’s father, passed through his arm and hit the child, who died instantly.
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Once watched a team of electricians in Saudi, the ones who did the work were Filipinos highly efficient. The Boss of the team, a Saudi, sat on a chair the whole time looking superior and I am dead certain hadn't a clue.
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exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.
Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.
This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman
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now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.
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exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.
Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.
This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman
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now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.
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exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.
Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.
This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman
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now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.
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your image response isn't loading, but i'm 100% sure it's stupid and you are incapable of understanding the facts. This was not to inform you, but to embarrass you.
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exploitative, benefits only rich wealthy land owners, demonizes the poor at the same time creates poverty, why is there not more anger towards our flawed, moronic system?
Capitalism is in place in America factually due to it's ability to most efficiently move money to the poor and help poverty. "Wealth is created when people that know how to create it, are allowed to do so " - Thomas Sowell.
Capitalism as a whole is nothing more than letting prices allocate natural resources instead of government bureaucrats. What that does is allow economic growth to soar. Why do you think America is the wealthiest country in human history? Because we have the most natural resources? Russia has much more natural resources than we do, and in embracing SOCIALISM ( human allocation of resources and natural goods) the OPPOSITE to capitalism, they have completely failed as the USSR.
Widespread opposition to capitalism in general, is nothing more than the economic ignorance of the people. In fact this debate is so old, and factually retired that economists wonder why in 75 years have Americans not made any progress in the right direction.
This is the granddaddy of Reaganomics, responsible for the surplus Clinton took credit for in his administration. The father of freedom and prosperity, the only reason why this country hasn't destroyed itself, the only reason you have a job and a degree. A former socialist (Keynesian) and most accomplished economist of all time: Milton Friedman
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now those are the facts. Here's what I have to say to you personally. Read a fucking book.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA[/url])
Who are you voting for, Yamon?i would vote for ted cruz but there's too many people like hassan who are going to vote in hilary and bernie.
what is it called when a majority of the population zealously supports a system which negatively impacts them in various ways from psychologically to physically and slowly degrades and pollutes the environment around them?lumpen
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618[/url] ([url]http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35762618[/url])
the entire world is on the edge of economic collapse due to socialism and the Eur0. China's exports are down by 25%
i mean what the fuck, there are no socialist policies implemented anywhere in the world.
get a man who can do both pic.twitter.com/TdO0TdV4Ih
— Adam Johnson (@adamjohnsonCHI) April 2, 2016
get a man who can do both pic.twitter.com/TdO0TdV4Ih
— Adam Johnson (@adamjohnsonCHI) April 2, 2016
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBjjP8WSbc[/url])
comrade bernie
shower thoughts: soviet gulags were more humane than america's present prison system
I'm a manager who is hiring for someone for a front-line customer-service related position. We're paying 12-13/hour (Canadian). So it's not like some amazing job.
In the week we've had our position open, I've received in the range of 200 resumes. It's heartbreaking. So many people, recent immigrants, people who had careers and have been laid off, just looking for a full time job, anywhere. I have one job I can give, so I have to pass over so many people who are just trying to make ends meet, and every time I close a resume knowing I'm not going to hire someone, it hurts. One candidate had major professional experience in his home country, and recently has only been able to find part time employment in fast food.
I can't believe we have so many people so desperate to just do anything to be able to support themselves and their family, and yet such great resistance to something that could make this an issue of the past. We have enough as a society! We just need to act! A basic income could solve so many problems! Allow the labour market to actually work as a free market, while ensuring we have a safety net for people unable to find work.
... I just don't understand the resistance ...
anthropomorphic cartoon missiles blowing up houses: Israeli Heroes
*capitalism gives downtrodeen soul on the end of his rope a reason to live* HURRR! Capitalism sux am i rite guys? ::)eat a molotov you unfunny dumbshit
*capitalism gives downtrodeen soul on the end of his rope a reason to live* HURRR! Capitalism sux am i rite guys? ::)eat a molotov you unfunny dumbshit
— Internet of Shit (@internetofshit) May 26, 2016
— Internet of Shit (@internetofshit) May 26, 2016
hmm just saw requiem for the american dream the noam chomsky documentary on netflix. curb stomp all wealthy people imo.
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Earth needs a virtual country: #Rationalia, with a one-line Constitution: All policy shall be based on the weight of evidence
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) June 29, 2016
Earth needs a virtual country: #Rationalia, with a one-line Constitution: All policy shall be based on the weight of evidence
— Neil deGrasse Tyson (@neiltyson) June 29, 2016
wow, deGrasse advocating FULLCOMMUNISM
[url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1[/url] ([url]http://www.forbes.com/sites/phildemuth/2013/11/25/are-you-rich-enough-the-terrible-tragedy-of-income-inequality-among-the-1/#3acc7bdd1bb1[/url])
"too many of us are counting our blessings and thinking of those in need. This is precisely backwards. There is vastly more income inequality among the top 1% than there is in the bottom 99%. Once all the facts are known, even the most crocodilian among us will be forced to shed a tear for those more fortunate."
Why worry about homelessness, child malnourishment, millions of people without healthcare coverage when there are 1%ers who " Post-tax and retirement savings. . ." have only "about $220,000 a year while they are working."
" When these worker bees hit retirement, their high-earning lifestyles will propel them off a cliff. Post-tax, but including Social Security, they are looking at an $80,000 spend annually — perhaps one-third of what they were accustomed to during prime time. They earn so much money that they can’t afford to retire. Meanwhile, the privileged 99% dwelling in the lower tiers of the social beehive won’t face the same gut-wrenching drop in lifestyle after they punch out, because Social Security comprises a much larger share of their retirement income, while their taxes will be lower."
not satire
The drinking water in #Flint is still poisoned with lead, but let's give #38BillionToIsrael to continue its ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
— #RIPBassemMasri 🙏 (@Delo_Taylor) September 15, 2016
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fucking dead
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If Corbyn was serious about ending social media abuse of Labour Party members he could do one simple thing - make a speech in which he praised Tony Blair and his achievements in government. It shouldn't be difficult for one Labour Party leader to praise another. Particularly as Tony was electorally the most successful Labour leader in history.
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L: PM of Canada
— David Sheen (@davidsheen) September 30, 2016
R: Parliamentary patron of Lehava, gang of brownshirts who patrol Israeli cities & assault non-Jews to prevent miscegenation pic.twitter.com/aXCwUyXhYN
/my apartment building's community wi-fi blocks housing rights and residents' rights websites lol pic.twitter.com/67pnSiRUpc
— the garbage shit boy (@davedittell) October 17, 2016
/my apartment building's community wi-fi blocks housing rights and residents' rights websites lol pic.twitter.com/67pnSiRUpc
— the garbage shit boy (@davedittell) October 17, 2016
— pointy (@chipspopandabar) October 27, 2016
leftists in Washington
leftists in Washington
lol
marxist progressives in Washington
you guys are fucking retarded.
Capitalism is a flawed system. But socialism is far worse. None of you live in Russia or China or Cuba you have no idea of what you're talking about. finding things to gripe about in america is so hypocritical considering our standards of living are far greater in every walk of life, in every class of citizen.
You are simply ignorant to history. If you were alive during any major war, or had to suffer through any real consequence of socialism like millions and millions of other people had to, you would think differently. As Americans in modern times you have never felt real pain or had your lives ruined by an oppressive government. It's fact based. Your life, my life and almost everyone else's life on this forum is very blessed.
And your marxist progressives in Washington might introduce you to real pain, so you can feel the worthlessness you accuse other people of. I hope you get drafted.
We need a mix of socialism and capitalism. Socialists will be in charge of the means of production; and the capitalists…gulag maintenance.
— Existential Comics (find me on bluesky) (@existentialcoms) November 3, 2016
[url]http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2016/11/why_u_s_companies_are_now_the_most_prominent_progressive_force_in_america.html[/url] ([url]http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2016/11/why_u_s_companies_are_now_the_most_prominent_progressive_force_in_america.html[/url])lol
[url]http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/colin-kaepernick-has-tense-exchange-with-reporter-over-fidel-castro-t-shirt/ar-AAkGysT?li=AAggNb9&oci[/url] ([url]http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nfl/colin-kaepernick-has-tense-exchange-with-reporter-over-fidel-castro-t-shirt/ar-AAkGysT?li=AAggNb9&oci[/url])
seems like Kaepernick owns
/photo/1Man, Kaepernick just keeps getting better and better. https://t.co/wRPfMEfFUY pic.twitter.com/5mNsTdl3z3
— DR (@davidrankin) November 25, 2016
people routinely complain about things (shitty job conditions, environmental issues) directly related to capitalism but that connection that capitalism is to blame is never actually made. liberals perpetuate some toxic myth that capitalism is good and brings people out of poverty, meanwhile it's nearly 2017 and corporations are still using child slave labour .
https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/nov/30/kelloggs-unilever-nestle-child-labour-palm-oil-wilmar-amnesty (https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/nov/30/kelloggs-unilever-nestle-child-labour-palm-oil-wilmar-amnesty)
on twitter the other day i saw some right wing person say "Do you seriously believe that paid agitators are not a problem?"
lol
on twitter the other day i saw some right wing person say "Do you seriously believe that paid agitators are not a problem?"
lol
It's happened: private renting has overtaken mortgaged homeownership in London. We're heading back to feudalism. https://t.co/IxFXsX04XJ pic.twitter.com/nr7BliK1Bp
— Toby Lloyd (@tobylloyd) February 27, 2017
Wal-Mart forced to pay $224M of stolen wages to Pennsylvania employeesThe rich literally robbing the poor, probably so they can spend $30,000 a month on wine. The world is full of monsters
It’s official! #Cuba is the first country in the world to eliminate mother-child transmission of #HIV &#AIDS. https://t.co/g3BroKNyvr pic.twitter.com/aXB2SBzrzB
— United Nations Geneva (@UNGeneva) April 12, 2017
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capitalism's manual. pic.twitter.com/BTBqJ6Tw4K
— teleSUR English (@telesurenglish) August 30, 2017
I hope america becomes a communist country before i die
I hope america becomes a communist country before i die
[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=post;quote=56618;topic=879.1185;last_msg=56619[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=post;quote=56618;topic=879.1185;last_msg=56619[/url])
Ill buy a house in Warsaw when that happens.
Capitalism is not the problem!
The alternative, that the government owns and controls everything, is worse.
People are inherently selfish and greedy and willing to let others suffer so they can step up, regardless of which system they're sitting in.
(https://i.redd.it/dtrgvnyoclkz.jpg)lol thats actually funny :D
ROTF ... agree(https://i.redd.it/dtrgvnyoclkz.jpg)lol thats actually funny :D
^^Didnt you hear? They raised the minimum wage.
murdering
Shut the fuck up you 3rd class piece of shit.
I hope you get evicted for your residence and end homeless and starve to death.
^^Didnt you hear? They raised the minimum wage.and?
Anyone that plays video games for a living is a loser.
they have been giving concessions since the 19th century. it was communists that fought for and won the 8 hour work day.
how big was your trustfund u dumb bitch and have u ever worked a day in your life?
Jon you don't know me and I don't know you. I am curious thou do you live on the poverty line?
they have been giving concessions since the 19th century. it was communists that fought for and won the 8 hour work day.
Concessions have been given to working class Americans throughout America's existence. Most recent is probably the $15 minimum wage.
https://www.certifiedgoldexchange.com/new-york-state-agrees-to-15-dollar-minimum-wage/ (https://www.certifiedgoldexchange.com/new-york-state-agrees-to-15-dollar-minimum-wage/)
It won't be long before the entire country has a $15 or more minimum wage.
FYI people work a lot more than 8 hours a day blue and white collar.
Furthermore most working class Americans aren't communists.
^^No you don't "Fuckboi"what the fuck kind of insult is this, you're a fucking filthy bourgeois mongrel.
Im 100% sure you live paycheck to paycheck loser.
you'll still need to collect paychecks after graduating from college you dumb piece of shit.lol don't even try to pretend you went to college.
^^No you don't "Fuckboi"
Im 100% sure you live paycheck to paycheck loser.
you'll still need to collect paychecks after graduating from college you dumb piece of shit.lol don't even try to pretend you went to college.
Yeah thats it Mr Marx fall back on the person insults since you can't come up with a counter argument.if your parents or grandparents, whomever, had the means to move and settle into another country and raise your dumb ass who clearly lives off a trust fund set up by his wealthy parents, you already were more privileged than most of the country you came from AND the country you currently reside. you indicated your parents had a $1000 to hand you so you can throw it away into the stock market. do you honestly believe most americans have that luxury?
I come from an immigrant family so spare me the "im privileged" argument.
]- dumb kid that never worked a day in his life and was lucky enough to be born to wealthy over-privileged parents.
There are opportunities for yourself and other Americans to climb the economic ladder.
Stop making excuses.
^^ You must be really stupid since you obviously didn't read any of my posts. Because if you did you would see I wasn't bragging.
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^^ You know suicide rates of transsexuals are the highest in the country. I'm waiting Fuckboi.thats pretty fucked up to say!
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers?CMP=share_btn_tw[/url] ([url]https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/18/warning-of-ecological-armageddon-after-dramatic-plunge-in-insect-numbers?CMP=share_btn_tw[/url])
Well at least those pesticides icnreased profits and efficiency. Goodbvye world.
Your right it is. But you know Fuckboi has told me to kill myself and my family dozens of times and I don't see you saying anything to him.
The guy is a troll with no opinion's and standard repose to ppl is "fuck off retard."
^^Flame war is over. You and your communism lost.
You lost. Like communism lost the Cold War.
it's a travesty of imperialist capitalist donkey propaganda that the USSR's heroic efforts in wiping out the cancer of Nazis isn't praised enough today.
Very true, the USSR was the greatest and most of all most moral state in the history of human civilization
your living under the freedom the ussr gave yougood point
Very true, the USSR was the greatest and most of all most moral state in the history of human civilization
Fuck the USSR.
ah yes. capitalism. where you earn money through hard work and determination. such as by being a shareholder. shareholders are truly the hardest working group of people in america. right up there with landlords.
— PubicZirconium (@PubicZirconium) November 16, 2017
HOLY MOLY!! New CBO report finds that the sneak attack on health care in the GOP tax bill will ***hammer*** households making less than $50,000 a year. Absolutely hammer them. pic.twitter.com/rUPrgrLVhz
— Michael Linden (@MichaelSLinden) November 18, 2017
Wall Street executive killed by tiger shark while scuba diving off Costa Rica https://t.co/Se2Z8pe7hm
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) December 4, 2017
your living under the freedom the ussr gave you
wealthy residents have fitted trees with ‘anti-bird spikes’ in a bid to protect their expensive cars from bird droppings https://t.co/hz1thQngj3 pic.twitter.com/K0TlcJCLmg
— Roz Warren (@RossalynWarren) December 19, 2017
when you’re forced to become something you’re not just to survive under capitalism pic.twitter.com/X4VadVtZiI
— #Stop Cop City (@stop_sweeps_atx) December 20, 2017
you don't even know what capitalism is , thinking it gets "implemented" by countries. rofl.i know what it is. It doesn't exist. It hasn't existed since it was last used in America about 100 years ago.
you don't even know what capitalism is , thinking it gets "implemented" by countries. rofl.i know what it is. It doesn't exist. It hasn't existed since it was last used in America about 100 years ago.
modern America is a neo-feudal, fascist society. That's your "capitalist" boogieman right there.
And as a supporter of the evil Talmudic Jew Karl Marx ( whose mission was to enslave the goyim like yourself) you're just on one side of the Hegelian dialectic. You have no answers or solutions to anything.
modern America is neofeudal and fascist and that's at the behest of capitalism. This is the shape capitalism is taking for itself. This is the form that the moneyed people purchase to protect their wealth. That's capitalism left to its own devices my man, and getting rid of all the regulations and taxes in the world isn't gonna make things any prettier
i know what it is. It doesn't exist. It hasn't existed since it was last used in America about 100 years ago.
modern America is a neo-feudal, fascist society. That's your "capitalist" boogieman right there.
And as a supporter of the evil Talmudic Jew Karl Marx ( whose mission was to enslave the goyim like yourself) you're just on one side of the Hegelian dialectic. You have no answers or solutions to anything.
you don't even know what capitalism is , thinking it gets "implemented" by countries. rofl.i know what it is. It doesn't exist. It hasn't existed since it was last used in America about 100 years ago.
modern America is a neo-feudal, fascist society. That's your "capitalist" boogieman right there.
And as a supporter of the evil Talmudic Jew Karl Marx ( whose mission was to enslave the goyim like yourself) you're just on one side of the Hegelian dialectic. You have no answers or solutions to anything.
lmao
^^And who is going to redistribute it?
And who amongst the workers is going to distribute it?
And who amongst the workers is going to distribute it?
The vanguard.
And who amongst the workers is going to distribute it?
The vanguard.
Any way you look at it some sort of government would have to be established. Inequalities will exist as they always have.
LOL, if everyone became an expert programmer, we'd have a bunch of unemployed programmers.
i heard they revised it up to like $9 after feedback
they lose like $3-4b a year and have like $5.5b left in funding. people keep pumping money in to keep it afloat, hoping for the breakthrough to come
I'm rather late to the question-asking party, but I'll ask anyway and hope. Have you thought about the possibility of technological unemployment, where we develop automated processes that ultimately cause large unemployment by performing jobs faster and/or cheaper than people can perform them? Some compare this thought to the thoughts of the Luddites, whose revolt was caused in part by perceived technological unemployment over 100 years ago. In particular, do you foresee a world where people work less because so much work is automated? Do you think people will always either find work or manufacture more work to be done? Thank you for your time and your contributions. I’ve found research to be a largely social endeavor, and you've been an inspiration to so many..
Answer:
If machines produce everything we need, the outcome will depend on how things are distributed. Everyone can enjoy a life of luxurious leisure if the machine-produced wealth is shared, or most people can end up miserably poor if the machine-owners successfully lobby against wealth redistribution. So far, the trend seems to be toward the second option, with technology driving ever-increasing inequality
these tech dreamers love crushing workers but theres always gonna be lyft and other leeches fighting for space in the same market, even if they successfully push all the cab drivers into self-immolation displays. all it takes to enter the competition with this model is putting an app on itunesi heard they revised it up to like $9 after feedback
they lose like $3-4b a year and have like $5.5b left in funding. people keep pumping money in to keep it afloat, hoping for the breakthrough to come
also to artificially keep fare prices down and put cab companies out of businesses so they can jack prices up when they have a monopoly
these tech dreamers love crushing workers but theres always gonna be lyft and other leeches fighting for space in the same market, even if they successfully push all the cab drivers into self-immolation displays. all it takes to enter the competition with this model is putting an app on itunesi heard they revised it up to like $9 after feedback
they lose like $3-4b a year and have like $5.5b left in funding. people keep pumping money in to keep it afloat, hoping for the breakthrough to come
also to artificially keep fare prices down and put cab companies out of businesses so they can jack prices up when they have a monopoly
anyway though their problem is that the drivers dont make much at all, so they always quit or try driving for one of the other services. theres huge driver turnover and they have to keep offering these costly incentive packages to try to sucker in more desperate driver scabs. then after the incentive period runs out the drivers realize it's a bad deal or find something better and quit. keeping the driver supply is a serious challenge even as it is, and they cant really increase wages at the rate theyre hemorrhaging money
so basically what's happening is that peolpe are getting cheap rides and it's being subsidized by dumbass venture capital because these people are looking for places to dump their money in this market with these low interest rates, and then that money is getting bled by the billion. yeah uber has an app but that and the subsidized rides is all they actually have to offer. theoretically they believe crushing cab drivers and replacing them with starving contractors has to work since it weakens labor, but theyll never have the same sort of efficiencies as cab companies where they can have a garage for car servicing or where workers can share a car to keep it on the road for more hours, and if they try to pay their drivers competitively then prices go up and people will have no reason to use uber anymore either, so they're caught in a box i dont see any way out of
it's so funny because to the average joe on the street the whole uber thing has been sold as this wildly successful, optimistic, and future-looking, despite drivers getting peanuts and the company bleeding billions, and an actual livable occupation (cab driver) being destroyed and replaced by people either not making a living wage, or hustling for a little bit of supplemental income. yet theyll only be able to avoid bankruptcy for a little more than a year unless they keep getting more cash injections indefinitely, or make a ton going public and selling stock to rubes in the hope that driverless cars will bail them out someday. and if driverless cars ever do come thatll just mean fewer jobs for working people and more money for companies that own the cars which is not the recipe for a functioning economy, but hey the rich will get richer and stocks will myopically go up before the final inevitable crash
Neo-liberalism is an ideology that ruins communities and ruins lives. It's an ideology that this Government is still absolutely wedded to as they continue to wreak havoc with their incessant cuts. #LabNorth18 pic.twitter.com/YAG3xsDITf
— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) March 18, 2018
you're either lying or you're dumb. if you think the average american has $1000 to gamble in the stock market you're a privileged fuckboy.
First female Communist elected in Iraq's holiest city calls for 'social justice'
[url]http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/female-communist-mp-heart-iraqs-holiest-city-1374412216[/url] ([url]http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/female-communist-mp-heart-iraqs-holiest-city-1374412216[/url])
I hear reactionary heads exploding
First female Communist elected in Iraq's holiest city calls for 'social justice'
[url]http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/female-communist-mp-heart-iraqs-holiest-city-1374412216[/url] ([url]http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/female-communist-mp-heart-iraqs-holiest-city-1374412216[/url])
I hear reactionary heads exploding
Iraqis appear to have broken with the political establishment in response to what they see as rampant corruption and incompetence.
Ponder and reflect upon the wisdom of Allah, the Exalted, in making the kings of the servants, their leaders, and their rulers to be as the same species as the actions of the servants. Like for like, if (the people) are good, then (the rulers) will be good, and if (the people) are evil, then (the rulers) will be evil. Rather, it is as if their actions became manifest in the appearance of their rulers and kings. It's like their actions are the reflection of their rulers and kings as face in a mirror towards yourself, like for like, and all that is from the actions of the servants as a result of what their own hands have reaped.
If they (the people) remain righteous, sincere and upright, then [their rulers/leaders/kings] will remain righteous and upright. And if they (the people) become corrupt, unrighteous and turn away (from uprightness), then they (the ruers) too will turn away from uprightness. If there appears plotting and deception among the people, their rulers will [be made to] behave likewise, and if people prevent the rights of Allah from being fulfilled among themselves and become miserly regarding their rights, {if they (the servants) opprsee themselves and others} then their kings and rulers will withhold the rights that they have upon them and will become miserly regarding them [so will their kings and rulers oppress the].
But those who did vote overwhelmingly cast their ballot for the Sairoun Alliance, a coalition of supporters of the Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and the Iraqi Communist Party (ICP), as well as the smaller Iraqi Republican Party.
The unity of the religiously conservative Sadrist movement with the ultra-secular ICP seemed baffling to outside observers, but it appears to have created a successful synthesis.
One of those who appears to best typify the new politics is Suhad al-Khateeb, a communist who won a parliamentary seat for the religious city of Najaf - one of the most important hubs of Shia Islamic theology.
During the Cold War, communism and Islamism were, for the most part, existential enemies.
communism incompatible with Islam
But political alliances between communists and Shia Islamists are not entirely unheard of.
there were alliances between nationalist-minded Shia families and the communists
Najaf, much like the rest of Iraq, has seethed at the rampant unemployment, corruption and cronyism that has typified the current political class in the country.
On 6 May, at the opening of the new Najaf International Stadium in the city, crowds bombarded the prime minister's spokesperson, as he attended the opening event, with cries of "you are all thieves!"
For Muqtada al-Sadr and his allies, the next step is to form a government, which must be done within 90 days.
Though Iran has long been influential in the holy Iraqi cities of Karbala and Najaf, there are growing fears that rising tensions between the Islamic Republic and its regional neighbours - particularly Israel and Saudi Arabia - could end up engulfing Iraq.
“There is a conflict between Iran and the US in the region, in Iraq, Yemen and Bahrain,” said Khateeb, “But we, the Iraqis, want our independence back from the US an
'Whoever fights for a cause that is not clear, advocating tribalism (nationalism), getting angry for the sake of tribalism (nationalism), then he has died a death of Jahiliyyah (pre-Islamic ignorance).'" [Sunan an-Nasa'i 4115 (saheeh)]
It was narrated that ‘Utayy ibn Damurah said: One day I saw him – i.e., Ubayy ibn Ka‘b – when a man was boasting in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, and he told him to bite that part of his father, and he did not use a metaphor. It was as if the people found that odd, so he said: Do not blame me, for the Prophet of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said to us: “Whoever you see boasting in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, then tell him to bite that, and do not use a metaphor.” Bayaan Mushkil al-Athaar (8/51-54)
Hence some of the scholars said that this indicates that it is permissible to bluntly state the name of the private part if there is a need to do so or there is an interest to be served thereby, and this does not come under the heading of obscene speech that is forbidden, as in the hadith of Ubayy ibn Ka‘b, according to which the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said:
“If you hear someone boasting in an ignorant manner of his tribal lineage, then tell him to bite his father’s male member, and do not use a metaphor.” Narrated by Ahmad. And Ubayy ibn Ka‘b heard a man saying: O So and so, and he said: Bite your father’s penis. Something was said to him about that, and he said: This is what the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) instructed us to do (in the case of such a person). - Minhaaj as-Sunnah an-Nabawiyyah (8/408, 409)
They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not! [2:9]
And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah (i.e. this Quran), and be not divided among yourselves, and remember Allah's Favour on you, for you were enemies one to another but He joined your hearts together, so that, by His Grace, you became brethren (in Islamic Faith), and you were on the brink of a pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allah makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.,) clear to you, that you may be guided. [3:103]
Say: "He has power to send torment on you from above or from under your feet, or to cover you with confusion in party strife, and make you to taste the violence of one another." See how variously We explain the Ayat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), so that they may understand. [6:65]
It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error. [33:36]
Say (O Muhammad to mankind): "If you (really) love Allah then follow me (i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Quran and the Sunnah), Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [3:31]
And when it is said to them: "Come to what Allah has sent down and to the Messenger (Muhammad)," you (Muhammad) see the hypocrites turn away from you (Muhammad) with aversion. [4:61]
That He might cut off a part of those who disbelieve, or expose them to infamy, so that they retire frustrated. [3:127]
Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allaah has made one of them to excel the other… [4:34]
“No people who appoint a woman as their leader will ever prosper.” [al-Bukhaari, 13/53].
capitalism at workMichigan’s controversial trio of bills "create new 'Polluter Panels' that would give the state's special interests even more sway over Michigan's environmental policy, at the expense of public health.” — @NRDC’s @cyndiroper. https://t.co/mwIBNbiTC5 via @keithmatheny and @freep
— NRDC 🌎🏡 (@NRDC) May 23, 2018
life is pretty good lately, moving into a new place. id been playing off and on until a couple months ago my home computer died :( not sure nowNever thought I'd say this but I don't own a personal computer anymore either. I'm on my work computer 10 hours a day and then what can't you do on the iphone now. When my last laptop went kaput I just never replaced it.
They basically want disabled people paid for makework. It's fake jobs or poorly done work because the workers are disabled. Obviously they should get a living wage, and probably be entitled to "work" too, but it should be paid for through disability.there's a retard like that where i work - he delivers the mail to the different department offices. He does a good job
We have some people working like that at my building. They come through and collect the recycling. But even though that's a job for 1 person there's like 6 of them that come through pushing a cart and they're all retarded, and then there's like one supervisor that has to help them.
That's cool you can do it all by yourself.
Suicide rates rise sharply across the United States, new report shows ...
it's like people don't want to live in a hyper-capitalist dystopia
Suicide rates rise sharply across the United States, new report shows ...
Hmm still missing a link here ... which is the data suggesting that this rise in suicide rates is attributable to capitalism?
America is capitalist, true, but it is also in the northern hemisphere. Perhaps this should be in the anti-northern hemisphere thread? How about the anti-countries that start with the letter 'A' thread?
Not really trying to set myself up as pro-capitalist here, but I am definately anti false-logic ;)
Susicide isn’t a result of poverty.
enough content here if you interested in why peterson is a joke.
https://reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/
enough content here if you interested in why peterson is a joke.
There's also some threads taking a lot of what he says out of context, or finding things hes said that are stupid but fundamentally trivial.
Who would you recommend on the other side of the aisle? thanks in advance!
but realistically what other issue can you attribute it to other than the predominant socio-economic system of capitalism?
why would bourgeois sources attribute anything negative to capitalism? as far as western media goes nothing detrimental can be said about capitalism.
I provided you with two alternatives albeit deliberately unrealistic ones.
I provided you with two alternatives albeit deliberately unrealistic ones.
yea two dumb alternatives that make no sense and aren't backed up facts. as southeast asia and africa lead in highest suicide rates. places ruined most by capitalism.
when something is a worldwide epidemic like suicide, the only reasonable, culpable perpetrator is the dominant socio-economic system.
except my opinions actually make sense and you're just throwing out babbling nonsense as alternatives. i just told you southeast asia and africa, the poorest and most destitute continents ravaged by capitalism are leading the world in suicide rates yet you're talking about trump supporters.
there's not going to be any "scientific studies" on this, no one is going to fund a study on the detrimental effects of capitalism by the only people who can afford to , capitalists. you'll need critical thinking skills. if you disagree that capitalism is the cause (lol) come up with alternatives that actually make sense (you can't).
Ive never read or seen anything by peterson so i was never invested enough to read the following, but it's my understanding that this article exposes peterson for not understanding any of the philosophies he cites and being basically a charlatanhttps://reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/ (https://reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/)
enough content here if you interested in why peterson is a joke.
Thanks Jon.
Gave it a go. A lot of those threads are talking about the actions of "Peterson Fans", or going after his religious infrastructure. The latter is interesting to some extent. There's also some threads taking a lot of what he says out of context, or finding things hes said that are stupid but fundamentally trivial. So far, aside from the arguments against his religious foundation, I haven't run into anything that had much sense to it. I'm sure there's stuff there, just seems to be taking a long time to sort through it all.
Who would you recommend on the other side of the aisle? thanks in advance!
I think my fav thing about Peterson is his belief that his interactions with men are informed by the implicit threat he'll fight them if they insult him--as if, as a middle-aged professor, male students are even subconsciously afraid that if they're rude to him he'll lunge over his desk at them, get knocked the fuck out in the ensuing brawl, and lose his job-for-life, all to avenge his precious honor.
It's easy to see why he's so popular with the alt-right guys: despite the huge gap between his class and lifestyle and that of most of his fans, he's fundamentally the same aspirational tough guy, constantly trying to process the contradiction between his passive modern existence and his personal fantasy of traditional masculinity.
Incredible: "1 in 5 workers with a high school education or less are subject to a noncompete" -@Alan_Krueger and Eric Posnerhttps://t.co/kqWoDCZIsb
— John Schmitt (@jschmittwdc) February 28, 2018
Ive never read or seen anything by peterson so i was never invested enough to read the following, but it's my understanding that this article exposes peterson for not understanding any of the philosophies he cites and being basically a charlatanhttps://reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/ (https://reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/)
enough content here if you interested in why peterson is a joke.
Thanks Jon.
Gave it a go. A lot of those threads are talking about the actions of "Peterson Fans", or going after his religious infrastructure. The latter is interesting to some extent. There's also some threads taking a lot of what he says out of context, or finding things hes said that are stupid but fundamentally trivial. So far, aside from the arguments against his religious foundation, I haven't run into anything that had much sense to it. I'm sure there's stuff there, just seems to be taking a long time to sort through it all.
Who would you recommend on the other side of the aisle? thanks in advance!
https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ (https://www.viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/)
i saw someone succinctly describe peterson's appeal as follows:QuoteI think my fav thing about Peterson is his belief that his interactions with men are informed by the implicit threat he'll fight them if they insult him--as if, as a middle-aged professor, male students are even subconsciously afraid that if they're rude to him he'll lunge over his desk at them, get knocked the fuck out in the ensuing brawl, and lose his job-for-life, all to avenge his precious honor.
It's easy to see why he's so popular with the alt-right guys: despite the huge gap between his class and lifestyle and that of most of his fans, he's fundamentally the same aspirational tough guy, constantly trying to process the contradiction between his passive modern existence and his personal fantasy of traditional masculinity.
What do ya guys think of Jordan Peterson? He was unknown just a few years ago, and now hes becoming widely popular.
Here's a video of him talking about marxism:
Identity Politics & The Marxist Lie of White Privilege | Dr. Jordan B. Peterson | SNC 2017 - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofmuCXRMoSA#[/url])
There is a lot of content out there of him talking about a wide array of subjects -mostly psychology, politics, socioeconomics, and some of the current popular activism efforts happening all over the US/Canada, etc.
I've probably watched 10-15+ hrs of Peterson's content myself.
yes peterson is an alt-reich mouth piece. the amount of alt-reich dicksuckers who support him is enough proof of that.
and the only thing being misrepresented is the c16 bill by peterson, who stupidly believes it makes it illegal if you don't refer to specific pronouns trans people want you to refer to them as, the fucking man is a lunatic. he's a fucking joke, and the fact he has so much supporters shows how bad capitalism has denigrated society.
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this one? lol
Dangerous People Are Teaching Your Kids - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LquIQisaZFU#[/url])
His voice rofl
His voice rofl
How can you be this big of a hypocrite?
You are trying to mock and shame someone for something they can't change and were born with.
Really? You're gonna laugh at someone for their voice? While pretending you're not the bully?
I am going to laugh at him, yes.
Peterson has a B.A., a Ph.D. in psychology, has worked at McGill's Douglas Hospital, is now a university professor, and has authored and co-authored over 100 papers and has written several books.
He cares about people and helps people and puts a lot of work and energy into doing what he believes will make the world a better place. He is married and has two children.
What have you done with your life so far?
"your just wholesale making stuff up." - this is literally what you're doing.
do you even have a point or do you enjoy looking like a retard trying to argue for arguments sake?
Not really trying to set myself up as pro-capitalist here, but I am definately anti false-logic ;)
"Southeast Asia, and Africa are large regions that each cover many different countries with vastly different social, political and economic conditions."
all with one common theme, extreme poverty imposed by capitalist polices."
"Over-population. Stress"
those things are byproducts of capitalism. lol.
"your just wholesale making stuff up." - this is literally what you're doing.
I am making no claims. You are. I have given a few other implausable scenarios only to demonstrate that there is either equal or greater evidence for them than your totally unsupported opinion.do you even have a point or do you enjoy looking like a retard trying to argue for arguments sake?
Kewl ... name-calling. First sign of a failing argument ;D
My point, as I clearly outlined in my first post on the subject, is that you have absolutely no evidence, or even coherant argument as to why the recent rise in suicide rates in the US can be attributed to capitalism.Not really trying to set myself up as pro-capitalist here, but I am definately anti false-logic ;)"Southeast Asia, and Africa are large regions that each cover many different countries with vastly different social, political and economic conditions."
all with one common theme, extreme poverty imposed by capitalist polices."
I'm pretty sure you couldn't even name half the countries in Africa and Southeast Asia, but you claim to have factual evidence that a)They are all in extreme poverty and b)That this poverty is a result of "capitalist policies". This is extreme nonsense.
First example off the top of my head - Singapore. It is in SEA. It is not in "extreme poverty".
What are these "capitalist policies"?"Over-population. Stress"
those things are byproducts of capitalism. lol.
Nobody in North Korea is stressed?
Over-population is a by-product of capitalism?? ROTF in what universe? Remind me again why China introduced the one child policy in the first place?
Where on earth did you come up with this "fact" that overpopulation is a result of capitalism? ... talk about making suff up.
Massive rational debate fail. I thought you could do better. Karl Marx would be rolling in his grave.
ill do better with people worth arguing with, lol. god damn retard. herr durr north korea, china. heruheudhudhruhrudh get the fuck out.
Am I sometimes an uppity, smug, superior hypocrite? Sure.
"US to suspend military exercises with South Korea"
north korea wins
this one? lol
Turns out that Marx was right is more of a Ben Shapiro fan. That’s why he doesn’t like Peterson.
Feel secure in your Marxist conception of the world
(https://i.imgur.com/2inSRFX.jpg)Learn to write and carefully argument what you stand for.
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He's hot though. That's the main thing.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zwqfbym.jpg)wow amazing intellectual of our times, incredibly insightful quote
I honestly am unsure of Peterson's views on homosexuality
It was a loaded question.
Your statement about soapboxing implies that I shouldn't share my views publicly (while everyone else should) which is blatant anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-truth, anti-biology, anti-children, anti-family, anti-heterosexual intolerant discriminatory bigotry.
In the interests of promoting the survival of the human race and bestowing on individuals the joy and privilege of bearing offspring, then it is beneficial to help them figure out how to put egg and sperm together.
Those who hate humanity and want us to die out and who hate children will (naturally) be in favor of any methods that kill human life or hinder human reproduction.
Yeah, kids are a lot of work but they are also freakin amazing!! Nothing better you can do with your life than spend time, work, energy, health on producing and raising the next generation.
Anyone who hates children has something seriously wrong with them.
The fact that there are plenty of people who have repented of homosexuality which is outside of God's design and plan and have gotten married to a person of the opposite sex proves that gayness is a behavior and a choice and not a genetic essence or condition one is bound to. It's not an identity. It's a behavior.
Yes, I understand the media and schools are on a crusade to push an anti-humanity population-reduction scheme on the world and force people to pay for pride parades so people can commit lewd acts while naked in front of children in an attempt to prove how "normal" it all is, but people who can think "big picture" are going to be fooled.
Where's the heterosexual parade? Where's the equality? I want a parade to celebrate penis vagina sex because it's so fun. Totally parade worthy. Why do we not get a tax funded parade? Where's our flag?
And where's the tolerance for diverse expression, diverse views? Like they are allowed to be grossed out by normal sex but get offended and need to sue or imprison anyone who is grossed out by what they do? That's not equality. That's not tolerance.
I honestly am unsure of Peterson's views on homosexuality, but my guess would be that he understands that a man and woman were designed to go together.
If he wanted to help gay people to find joy in a member of the opposite sex and have children, how could anyone find a problem with that who isn't simply being hateful and bigoted against people who have different beliefs and values than they do?
If someone is a drug addict, no one objects to rehab except the dealer who benefits financially.
if someone wants counselling for same sex attraction, that's *outlawed*...crazy. People who want help can't get it because it upsets the people who want to believe and insist that homosexual behavior defines a person's identity and cannot be changed. This has already been proven false by ex-gays who stopped being gay.
The implication is also that anyone who tries to "fix" someone out of same sex attraction and into opposite sex attraction which is biologically sensible and normal is doing so out of hate, bigotry, ignorance, "discrimination", or some other perceived evil.
In the interests of promoting the survival of the human race and bestowing on individuals the joy and privilege of bearing offspring, then it is beneficial to help them figure out how to put egg and sperm together.
Those who hate humanity and want us to die out and who hate children will (naturally) be in favor of any methods that kill human life or hinder human reproduction.
Yeah, kids are a lot of work but they are also freakin amazing!! Nothing better you can do with your life than spend time, work, energy, health on producing and raising the next generation.
Anyone who hates children has something seriously wrong with them.
The fact that there are plenty of people who have repented of homosexuality which is outside of God's design and plan and have gotten married to a person of the opposite sex proves that gayness is a behavior and a choice and not a genetic essence or condition one is bound to. It's not an identity. It's a behavior.
Yes, I understand the media and schools are on a crusade to push an anti-humanity population-reduction scheme on the world and force people to pay for pride parades so people can commit lewd acts while naked in front of children in an attempt to prove how "normal" it all is, but people who can think "big picture" are going to be fooled.
Where's the heterosexual parade? Where's the equality? I want a parade to celebrate penis vagina sex because it's so fun. Totally parade worthy. Why do we not get a tax funded parade? Where's our flag?
And where's the tolerance for diverse expression, diverse views? Like they are allowed to be grossed out by normal sex but get offended and need to sue or imprison anyone who is grossed out by what they do? That's not equality. That's not tolerance.
I honestly am unsure of Peterson's views on homosexuality, but my guess would be that he understands that a man and woman were designed to go together.
If he wanted to help gay people to find joy in a member of the opposite sex and have children, how could anyone find a problem with that who isn't simply being hateful and bigoted against people who have different beliefs and values than they do?
If someone is a drug addict, no one objects to rehab except the dealer who benefits financially.
if someone wants counselling for same sex attraction, that's *outlawed*...crazy. People who want help can't get it because it upsets the people who want to believe and insist that homosexual behavior defines a person's identity and cannot be changed. This has already been proven false by ex-gays who stopped being gay.
Die bitch.
"A loaded question or complex question fallacy is a question that contains a controversial or unjustified assumption (e.g., a presumption of guilt)." -Google search def
You put the word "fix" in quotation marks, implying that homosexual behavior can't or shouldn't be attempted to be fixed.
The implication is also that anyone who tries to "fix" someone out of same sex attraction and into opposite sex attraction which is biologically sensible and normal is doing so out of hate, bigotry, ignorance, "discrimination", or some other perceived evil.
So if I explain plain and simple biological, factual egg and sperm reality when I'm labelled a hateful bigot, why are you unhappy that I should present the truth?
Which part bothers you and why?
Your statement about soapboxing implies that I shouldn't share my views publicly (while everyone else should) which is blatant anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-truth, anti-biology, anti-children, anti-family, anti-heterosexual intolerant discriminatory bigotry.
We can always take this private lol. If you're getting hot under the collar.
If you don't like a fact, does that fact stop being true?
If you don't like a fact, does that fact stop being true?
LolI read your first answer. I liked it much better than what I saw of the other one.
If you don't like a fact, does that fact stop being true? I don't like it when people post replies that make my posts look frail and empty either, but lucky for me, that never happens.It was funny and made you seem intelligent.
Lol. It was funny and intelligent because I *am* funny and intelligent. So there's a good reason for it seeming that way lol.
I have tennis at 9
Your just going to have to trust that it’s me playing.O
Only time I ever let someone play on my name was Swift last year on April fools to screw with Lux.
If my word not enough I guess you can have mouse /finger my name right before.
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— Hipólita of the Lily Tribe 🏳️⚧️ 🇦🇷⭐⭐⭐☭ (@its_hipolita) June 26, 2018
Fact: rap isn't music. And if you think it is, you're stupid.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 9, 2012
That tweet got deleted or something so here's a different oneFact: rap isn't music. And if you think it is, you're stupid.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 9, 2012
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what a liberal smh
boot licking bezos when it was the workers that fought to raise the min wage, not to mention the pressure from all the negative attention in the media amazon got because of how poorly they treated their workers.
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Says the multi-millionaire who has never had to work a day in his life.
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Comrad jon is a disgruntled poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck. He thinks communism will save him from the life of poverty he is living.
Comrade jon has nobody to blame but himself.
Life gives you choices, clearly comrade jon made poor life choices which led him to communism.
I make a lot of money at a good job and I'm a communist. Owned bitch!!!!
i don't need communism to save me,
So your not a disgruntled poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck?
So your not a disgruntled poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck?
Speaking for the majority of the human species, by and large we are poor people.
Irregardless, the degree of disgruntlement that we all suffer is something that needs to be managed. Often that management takes the form of religion - the construction of imaginary saviours that might give meaning or value to our otherwise largely irellivent existance. Things like "God" or "Communism" are examples that spring to mind.
Being the type of person that lacks the ability to believe in such nonsense, I prefer instead to distract myself by tinkering with computer software, playing old games or even occasionally socializing with my fellow humans .... but each to their own.
So your not a disgruntled poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck?
you're asking if i'm like most of society? capitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.So your not a disgruntled poor person who lives paycheck to paycheck?
@Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure ^^Answer.
capitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.
capitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.
lol communism just fails. Period.
No it rules. Cuba genuinely cares for its people and does its best to take care of everyone in a way that warms my heart. Then you look at America, the richest place on earth, and there's homeless people everywhere, racism, the medical system is fucked, etc... And America is so vicious too, trying to destroy Iran, trying to destroy Venezuela, they sanction these countries and it's collective punishment that kills hundreds of thousands of people, and what are they being punished for? Governing in a way the US doesn't like, because US companies aren't getting to profit from their resources. Ughcapitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.
lol communism just fails. Period.
No it rules. Cuba genuinely cares for its people and does its best to take care of everyone in a way that warms my heart. Then you look at America, the richest place on earth, and there's homeless people everywhere, racism, the medical system is fucked, etc... And America is so vicious too, trying to destroy Iran, trying to destroy Venezuela, they sanction these countries and it's collective punishment that kills hundreds of thousands of people, and what are they being punished for? Governing in a way the US doesn't like, because US companies aren't getting to profit from their resources. Ughcapitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.
lol communism just fails. Period.
from those links:No it rules. Cuba genuinely cares for its people and does its best to take care of everyone in a way that warms my heart. Then you look at America, the richest place on earth, and there's homeless people everywhere, racism, the medical system is fucked, etc... And America is so vicious too, trying to destroy Iran, trying to destroy Venezuela, they sanction these countries and it's collective punishment that kills hundreds of thousands of people, and what are they being punished for? Governing in a way the US doesn't like, because US companies aren't getting to profit from their resources. Ughcapitalism fails for everyone except the capitalist class.
lol communism just fails. Period.
Cuba? Cool let's all move to Cuba. You first tho ;)
America hmmm .... never been there either.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Cuba
Oh nice. A non-democratic government with the death penalty that doesn't even release crime statistics.
Perhaps they're different to the rest of the human race, really IDK - maybe they don't just silently kill whoever they don't like, but clearly they can.
Fuck it! I'm calling my travel agent.
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? :o sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
If Cuba so great then why did so many Cubans traveled to Miami in makeshift rafts thru out the 80s and 90s?
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? :o sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
hmm... sounds like Australia or Canada, except Cuba has the death penalty and doesn't publish the crime (or punishment) statistics.
Sounds like the only thing related to communism is that it's a good way to re-brand a dictatorship.
Can’t use YouTube as a source of information.
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
If Cuba so great then why did so many Cubans traveled to Miami in makeshift rafts thru out the 80s and 90s?
from those links:
on corruption
Cuba fared better than most of the other countries in the Caribbean and Central America.[15]
on crime
Gun crime is virtually nonexistent and murder rates are below those of most Latin American countries.
hmm and they all get health care and jobs??? :o sounds like it's better than everywhere else in the region (definitely including the US lol) despite being under a US embargo and definitions of "corruption" being shit from an ass (ie it's corruption when cuba does it but when the pharma industry donates to a senator and then writes a new bill for him that's normal process)
hmm... sounds like Australia or Canada, except Cuba has the death penalty and doesn't publish the crime (or punishment) statistics.
Sounds like the only thing related to communism is that it's a good way to re-brand a dictatorship.
How does one immigrant to Cuba?
How does one immigrant to Cuba?