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Title: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 02:27:01 PM
Hola all,

I'm working on a calendar that will be added to the website and forum.  This calendar will be used to keep players updated on all events that take place on the server.  However, I would also like to add other dates relevant to War2's history like the anniversary of the game release or anniversary of this server.  I will try to add what I can from my own research but I thought I would create this thread to see if there are any special dates that any members of the community feel should be added to this calendar. 

Please reply to this thread with any dates you feel should be added to the calendar.  I'm also welcome to new ideas.  If there is anything you think would help make this calendar better, please let me know.

A little more background on this post from the Forum Affairs board: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,698.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,698.0.html)

Link to the calendar: https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dbpishcmdji751baiajg219gp0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York (https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dbpishcmdji751baiajg219gp0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York)
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 28, 2015, 03:10:10 PM
You can use this calendar for tournament, league, new softwares ( when it came out  ), pools, people whos get ban (when it start and when it end) ranking to let know when someone is now the new #1 etc etc and probably way much mores.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
You can use this calendar for tournament, league, new softwares ( when it came out  ), pools, people whos get ban (when it start and when it end) ranking to let know when someone is now the new #1 etc etc and probably way much mores.

There are a lot of nice ideas there but I think we should try to keep it as simple as possible.  I am able to regularly update this calendar but not routinely for things such as positions in ladder rankings or player bans.  I also feel these things are a bit unnecessary.  Anniversaries are something I can set to occur year after year.  I think the best idea you have is the polling start and end dates.  I did a little bit of research about having the polling dates automatically added but I was unable to find a workable solution for it.  I did toy with the idea of creating a link on the website and forum for Google Polls but I think it would present too many problems.  I'm not even sure the poll dates could even be added to Google Calendar this way.  I think a good alternative to this idea would be to create a board on the forum dedicated to polls.  Polling would be much more organized instead of having all of the polls scattered around on different boards.  A link to the polling board could even be added to the website urging players to participate in voting.  I'm not sure how much work is involved in doing this, but for more exposure, I'm sure there's a way to add a "Latest Poll: Title of Poll" feature in the welcome message for the War2Bne channel. 

What do you guys think about adding holidays to the calendar?
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 28, 2015, 05:06:44 PM
You can use this calendar for tournament, league, new softwares ( when it came out  ), pools, people whos get ban (when it start and when it end) ranking to let know when someone is now the new #1 etc etc and probably way much mores.

There are a lot of nice ideas there but I think we should try to keep it as simple as possible.  I am able to regularly update this calendar but not routinely for things such as positions in ladder rankings or player bans.  I also feel these things are a bit unnecessary.  Anniversaries are something I can set to occur year after year.  I think the best idea you have is the polling start and end dates.  I did a little bit of research about having the polling dates automatically added but I was unable to find a workable solution for it.  I did toy with the idea of creating a link on the website and forum for Google Polls but I think it would present too many problems.  I'm not even sure the poll dates could even be added to Google Calendar this way.  I think a good alternative to this idea would be to create a board on the forum dedicated to polls.  Polling would be much more organized instead of having all of the polls scattered around on different boards.  A link to the polling board could even be added to the website urging players to participate in voting.  I'm not sure how much work is involved in doing this, but for more exposure, I'm sure there's a way to add a "Latest Poll: Title of Poll" feature in the welcome message for the War2Bne channel. 

What do you guys think about adding holidays to the calendar?

The ladder rank is an idea between much more, i admit is maybe too much for now, but with more admins to take cares of it, it's a great way to keep focus on the ladder.

For the banning i dont agree, admins or banning people of this community and dint even tell why or for how much time, if my best friend get ban i want to know why and how much time and i want to know when the ban start and when it end.

Banning is one of the most important thing you have to add in this calendar.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 05:51:35 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 28, 2015, 06:09:48 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.

If you cant do something right, why do you want to do it? I can certainly do everything i just said 2 post ago and alone.

This is not because peoples get ban they dont have the right to have the good justice.

If you think because someone get ban we have to forget him so you will be one of these guy who contribute to kill this game even if you made a little calendar.

You want to made a calendar for us, it's ok, cool, thank you, but dont try to make your own rules, people who get ban have the right to get ban rightly, this calendar is a way to make banning official with rules for the entire community.

I appreciated the fact you want to help us, but i dont appreciated your bullshiting when your nobody yet.

Get your real account and maybe your gonna have the right to take important decision like this.


Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.

If you cant do something right, why do you want to do it? I can certainly do everything i just said 2 post ago and alone.

This is not because peoples get ban they dont have the right to have the good justice.

If you think because someone get ban we have to forget him so you will be one of these guy who contribute to kill this game even if you made a little calendar.

You want to made a calendar for us, it's ok, cool, but dont try to make your own rules, people who get ban have the right to get ban rightly, this calendar is a way to make banning official with rules for the entire community.

I appreciated the fact you want to help us, but i dont appreciated your bullshiting when your nobody yet.

Get your real account and maybe your gonna have the right to take important decision like this.

You were given the option to do this calendar on your own yet you ignored it and somehow now claim that you are capable of doing everything that you've listed here.  It's like walking through your house and you keep bumping into a chair each time you walk by it.  You complain about it each time.  You may even put the chair itself at fault.  Yet, you won't move it over a little or somewhere else to avoid the grievance.  We need to shift our focus to a better way of doing something rather than complaining and accomplishing nothing.  You're thinking too big and I've seen projects such as this and websites fail due to this type of thinking. 

Instead of focusing your energy on becoming hostile with everyone who disagrees with you, we can instead brainstorm on another way to solve this issue.  For instance, League of Legends has a tribunal system where players are reported for breaking rules and players are able to review the case and decide whether or not to punish that player for their actions.  The same could be done here by just adding a board where players can post a poll, screenshot, and reason for wanting the ban.  The community then votes on it with a deadline and when the deadline is up, the admin bans (or doesn't ban) them for x amount days.  There can also be a guideline set up for the amount of time a player gets banned depending on the offense.  This solves the problem of having better justice administered and will allow banned players to be aware of the amount of time they have been banned for.  By doing this, we've even eliminated the need for server rules altogether and promoted more community involvement.  I think enough of us on here possess enough common sense to know what we want and don't want happening on this server. 

As for me being nobody, I'm actually a long time veteran of this game and have been playing since 1999.  I've devoted my time to helping out in tournaments over the years and have never received a ban on this server.  I've promoted this server through YouTube on my own time as well.  The only reason you don't know me is due to the fact that I couldn't even get my account approved on the old forums. 

So, in your own way here, are you offering to keep up with the ban start and end dates on the calendar?  I could give you access to posting on the calender in order to do this but I prefer the above idea I stated in the second paragraph.  I am willing to work with you if you'd like to become involved with anything I'm working on as long as you can be civil.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 28, 2015, 07:59:05 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.

If you cant do something right, why do you want to do it? I can certainly do everything i just said 2 post ago and alone.

This is not because peoples get ban they dont have the right to have the good justice.

If you think because someone get ban we have to forget him so you will be one of these guy who contribute to kill this game even if you made a little calendar.

You want to made a calendar for us, it's ok, cool, but dont try to make your own rules, people who get ban have the right to get ban rightly, this calendar is a way to make banning official with rules for the entire community.

I appreciated the fact you want to help us, but i dont appreciated your bullshiting when your nobody yet.

Get your real account and maybe your gonna have the right to take important decision like this.

You were given the option to do this calendar on your own yet you ignored it and somehow now claim that you are capable of doing everything that you've listed here.  It's like walking through your house and you keep bumping into a chair each time you walk by it.  You complain about it each time.  You may even put the chair itself at fault.  Yet, you won't move it over a little or somewhere else to avoid the grievance.  We need to shift our focus to a better way of doing something rather than complaining and accomplishing nothing.  You're thinking too big and I've seen projects such as this and websites fail due to this type of thinking. 

Instead of focusing your energy on becoming hostile with everyone who disagrees with you, we can instead brainstorm on another way to solve this issue.  For instance, League of Legends has a tribunal system where players are reported for breaking rules and players are able to review the case and decide whether or not to punish that player for their actions.  The same could be done here by just adding a board where players can post a poll, screenshot, and reason for wanting the ban.  The community then votes on it with a deadline and when the deadline is up, the admin bans (or doesn't ban) them for x amount days.  There can also be a guideline set up for the amount of time a player gets banned depending on the offense.  This solves the problem of having better justice administered and will allow banned players to be aware of the amount of time they have been banned for.  By doing this, we've even eliminated the need for server rules altogether and promoted more community involvement.  I think enough of us on here possess enough common sense to know what we want and don't want happening on this server. 

As for me being nobody, I'm actually a long time veteran of this game and have been playing since 1999.  I've devoted my time to helping out in tournaments over the years and have never received a ban on this server.  I've promoted this server through YouTube on my own time as well.  The only reason you don't know me is due to the fact that I couldn't even get my account approved on the old forums. 

So, in your own way here, are you offering to keep up with the ban start and end dates on the calendar?  I could give you access to posting on the calender in order to do this but I prefer the above idea I stated in the second paragraph.  I am willing to work with you if you'd like to become involved with anything I'm working on as long as you can be civil.


I dint do it myself because this staff dont deserve my help for now.

She already told me it was a bad idea, she just using you to make me mad, did you dont see? If you want to help someone with this calendar is me, if you want a general opinion on the idea is me... You know why?? Because she dint even cares!!!

So please mr veteran, we all play since 1999, only difference is we still play since 1999.

Take your spot if you want, im all good with this, but dont fuck with my idea to be someone, if you want to make it, make it right or dont waste your time.

Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Winchester on March 28, 2015, 09:13:53 PM
Your a bitch Equinox, so hes gonna do it, you're not even a someone, Rit is. You're a hacker, Rit isn't. And he's also played longer then you. Now if you would be so kind as you claim you are, leave him the fuck alone.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 10:15:16 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.

If you cant do something right, why do you want to do it? I can certainly do everything i just said 2 post ago and alone.

This is not because peoples get ban they dont have the right to have the good justice.

If you think because someone get ban we have to forget him so you will be one of these guy who contribute to kill this game even if you made a little calendar.

You want to made a calendar for us, it's ok, cool, but dont try to make your own rules, people who get ban have the right to get ban rightly, this calendar is a way to make banning official with rules for the entire community.

I appreciated the fact you want to help us, but i dont appreciated your bullshiting when your nobody yet.

Get your real account and maybe your gonna have the right to take important decision like this.

You were given the option to do this calendar on your own yet you ignored it and somehow now claim that you are capable of doing everything that you've listed here.  It's like walking through your house and you keep bumping into a chair each time you walk by it.  You complain about it each time.  You may even put the chair itself at fault.  Yet, you won't move it over a little or somewhere else to avoid the grievance.  We need to shift our focus to a better way of doing something rather than complaining and accomplishing nothing.  You're thinking too big and I've seen projects such as this and websites fail due to this type of thinking. 

Instead of focusing your energy on becoming hostile with everyone who disagrees with you, we can instead brainstorm on another way to solve this issue.  For instance, League of Legends has a tribunal system where players are reported for breaking rules and players are able to review the case and decide whether or not to punish that player for their actions.  The same could be done here by just adding a board where players can post a poll, screenshot, and reason for wanting the ban.  The community then votes on it with a deadline and when the deadline is up, the admin bans (or doesn't ban) them for x amount days.  There can also be a guideline set up for the amount of time a player gets banned depending on the offense.  This solves the problem of having better justice administered and will allow banned players to be aware of the amount of time they have been banned for.  By doing this, we've even eliminated the need for server rules altogether and promoted more community involvement.  I think enough of us on here possess enough common sense to know what we want and don't want happening on this server. 

As for me being nobody, I'm actually a long time veteran of this game and have been playing since 1999.  I've devoted my time to helping out in tournaments over the years and have never received a ban on this server.  I've promoted this server through YouTube on my own time as well.  The only reason you don't know me is due to the fact that I couldn't even get my account approved on the old forums. 

So, in your own way here, are you offering to keep up with the ban start and end dates on the calendar?  I could give you access to posting on the calender in order to do this but I prefer the above idea I stated in the second paragraph.  I am willing to work with you if you'd like to become involved with anything I'm working on as long as you can be civil.


I dint do it myself because this staff dont deserve my help for now.

She already told me it was a bad idea, she just using you to make me mad, did you dont see? If you want to help someone with this calendar is me, if you want a general opinion on the idea is me... You know why?? Because she dint even cares!!!

So please mr veteran, we all play since 1999, only difference is we still play since 1999.

Take your spot if you want, im all good with this, but dont fuck with my idea to be someone, if you want to make it, make it right or dont waste your time.

Replying to your posts or even acknowledging you on this forum is obviously a waste of my time. 
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 28, 2015, 10:16:56 PM
I don't see a reason to offer this luxury to people who get banned when you take into consideration that they are people who have hacked, spammed, harassed other players, or violated any of the server rules (even though I don't agree with all of them).  They wouldn't have to worry about when their ban is going to be lifted or even banned to begin with if they grew out of their 12 year old mindset and acted like the actual adults they never became.  In fact, I think it does them a favor to get away from this game without a deadline for when they can come back.  Perhaps they will discover something more valuable to do with their time.

Really, though, I don't see myself routinely updating ban start and end dates nor the admins keeping me updated about them.  This is something that I know for a fact would not get updated.  Any type of automation on the calendar can be done but it really depends on what you're willing to go through to have it.  Way too much work for a feature we could do without.

If you cant do something right, why do you want to do it? I can certainly do everything i just said 2 post ago and alone.

This is not because peoples get ban they dont have the right to have the good justice.

If you think because someone get ban we have to forget him so you will be one of these guy who contribute to kill this game even if you made a little calendar.

You want to made a calendar for us, it's ok, cool, but dont try to make your own rules, people who get ban have the right to get ban rightly, this calendar is a way to make banning official with rules for the entire community.

I appreciated the fact you want to help us, but i dont appreciated your bullshiting when your nobody yet.

Get your real account and maybe your gonna have the right to take important decision like this.

You were given the option to do this calendar on your own yet you ignored it and somehow now claim that you are capable of doing everything that you've listed here.  It's like walking through your house and you keep bumping into a chair each time you walk by it.  You complain about it each time.  You may even put the chair itself at fault.  Yet, you won't move it over a little or somewhere else to avoid the grievance.  We need to shift our focus to a better way of doing something rather than complaining and accomplishing nothing.  You're thinking too big and I've seen projects such as this and websites fail due to this type of thinking. 

Instead of focusing your energy on becoming hostile with everyone who disagrees with you, we can instead brainstorm on another way to solve this issue.  For instance, League of Legends has a tribunal system where players are reported for breaking rules and players are able to review the case and decide whether or not to punish that player for their actions.  The same could be done here by just adding a board where players can post a poll, screenshot, and reason for wanting the ban.  The community then votes on it with a deadline and when the deadline is up, the admin bans (or doesn't ban) them for x amount days.  There can also be a guideline set up for the amount of time a player gets banned depending on the offense.  This solves the problem of having better justice administered and will allow banned players to be aware of the amount of time they have been banned for.  By doing this, we've even eliminated the need for server rules altogether and promoted more community involvement.  I think enough of us on here possess enough common sense to know what we want and don't want happening on this server. 

As for me being nobody, I'm actually a long time veteran of this game and have been playing since 1999.  I've devoted my time to helping out in tournaments over the years and have never received a ban on this server.  I've promoted this server through YouTube on my own time as well.  The only reason you don't know me is due to the fact that I couldn't even get my account approved on the old forums. 

So, in your own way here, are you offering to keep up with the ban start and end dates on the calendar?  I could give you access to posting on the calender in order to do this but I prefer the above idea I stated in the second paragraph.  I am willing to work with you if you'd like to become involved with anything I'm working on as long as you can be civil.


I dint do it myself because this staff dont deserve my help for now.

She already told me it was a bad idea, she just using you to make me mad, did you dont see? If you want to help someone with this calendar is me, if you want a general opinion on the idea is me... You know why?? Because she dint even cares!!!

So please mr veteran, we all play since 1999, only difference is we still play since 1999.

Take your spot if you want, im all good with this, but dont fuck with my idea to be someone, if you want to make it, make it right or dont waste your time.

Replying to your posts or even acknowledging you on this forum is obviously a waste of my time.

Good so consider this project down because it's look like i am the only one who cares about this project, thank you, we dont need it anymore.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 10:17:50 PM
Your a bitch Equinox, so hes gonna do it, you're not even a someone, Rit is. You're a hacker, Rit isn't. And he's also played longer then you. Now if you would be so kind as you claim you are, leave him the fuck alone.

Hola Winchester.  What do you think about adding holidays?  Feel free to recommend specific dates that you think are relevant to the community.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Winchester on March 28, 2015, 10:41:48 PM
Christmas/New Years would be the obvious ones usually, Easters coming up shortly, so maybe throw those in
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 28, 2015, 10:44:19 PM
Christmas/New Years would be the obvious ones usually, Easters coming up shortly, so maybe throw those in

People must be complete outcasts if they spend their holiday times playing a 20 year old game.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 28, 2015, 11:06:50 PM
Christmas/New Years would be the obvious ones usually, Easters coming up shortly, so maybe throw those in

Done. I also added Halloween and Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Winchester on March 28, 2015, 11:18:34 PM
Christmas/New Years would be the obvious ones usually, Easters coming up shortly, so maybe throw those in

People must be complete outcasts if they spend their holiday times playing a 20 year old game.


We clearly know Equinox will be doing it
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Nox on March 29, 2015, 12:58:17 AM
Christmas/New Years would be the obvious ones usually, Easters coming up shortly, so maybe throw those in

Done. I also added Halloween and Thanksgiving.

Good im gonna throw my memories and my home calendar to garbage, just to be sure....

Like if your holydays is more important of a real calendar for war2...

God fucking damn it, here a clone of moustopher.

Actually, it's probably moustopher trying to take my idea like a rats.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Winchester on March 29, 2015, 01:03:17 AM
Don't you have something more important to be doing? Like I dunno, paying off your debt to the hells angels? Theres only so much cock you can suck for extra time to pay your debt off. Oh well, enjoy the beating they give you

Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: I hate naggers on March 29, 2015, 05:05:57 AM
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Replying to your posts or even acknowledging you on this forum is obviously a waste of my time
took you a while, rit, glad finally you realized that!

@tribunal idea: we don't have enough eople in the community. In League the community votes go in 10's of thousands to avoid variance/grief/people having a bad day, that's one.
Another argument against it is that cases there are ANONYMOUS, it would be literally impossible to have that here. People may be (or in my case - are) biased and vote punish no matter what, just because they dislike the player.

There's good stuff related to it obviously, but those two arguments outweight it imo
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: mousEtopher on March 29, 2015, 08:34:35 AM
However, I would also like to add other dates relevant to War2's history like the anniversary of the game release or anniversary of this server.  I will try to add what I can from my own research but I thought I would create this thread to see if there are any special dates that any members of the community feel should be added to this calendar.

Good thought! Some generic dates would be release of WC, WC2, expansion pack, Kali, BNE. Could also include info related to some of the major fan contributions, like the Occult, Kpuds, etc. There's probably others but I didn't start playing 'til '04, I think most of the boom was before that. Burnt or iL might have a launch date for war2.ru. The WC2 Festival is an important entry too; I know it's in July each year but the specific date probably varies, so that one may have to be added manually. Have you talked with Burnt yet about the calendar in general? 

A great way to make the calendar idea more useful & practical would be to delegate the ability to add events to the users that might use it, like USA-Archer who's running his own tournies. The built-in SMF calendar would be great for that but embed options are pretty limited. If a two way sync could be set up between SMF calendar and GCal that'd be perfect, but it'd take some fancy coding if it's even possible.

A link to the polling board could even be added to the website urging players to participate in voting.  I'm not sure how much work is involved in doing this, but for more exposure, I'm sure there's a way to add a "Latest Poll: Title of Poll" feature in the welcome message for the War2Bne channel. 

Probably doable, but that's iL's domain. Embedding a poll into the website is definitely possible and something I can do; probably have to hand-pick relevant polls by ID for that, like the client vote.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 29, 2015, 09:00:40 AM
However, I would also like to add other dates relevant to War2's history like the anniversary of the game release or anniversary of this server.  I will try to add what I can from my own research but I thought I would create this thread to see if there are any special dates that any members of the community feel should be added to this calendar.

Good thought! Some generic dates would be release of WC, WC2, expansion pack, Kali, BNE. Could also include info related to some of the major fan contributions, like the Occult, Kpuds, etc. There's probably others but I didn't start playing 'til '04, I think most of the boom was before that. Burnt or iL might have a launch date for war2.ru. The WC2 Festival is an important entry too; I know it's in July each year but the specific date probably varies, so that one may have to be added manually. Have you talked with Burnt yet about the calendar in general? 

A great way to make the calendar idea more useful & practical would be to delegate the ability to add events to the users that might use it, like USA-Archer who's running his own tournies. The built-in SMF calendar would be great for that but embed options are pretty limited. If a two way sync could be set up between SMF calendar and GCal that'd be perfect, but it'd take some fancy coding if it's even possible.

A link to the polling board could even be added to the website urging players to participate in voting.  I'm not sure how much work is involved in doing this, but for more exposure, I'm sure there's a way to add a "Latest Poll: Title of Poll" feature in the welcome message for the War2Bne channel. 

Probably doable, but that's iL's domain. Embedding a poll into the website is definitely possible and something I can do; probably have to hand-pick relevant polls by ID for that, like the client vote.

shut up moron
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 29, 2015, 02:06:55 PM
Good thought! Some generic dates would be release of WC, WC2, expansion pack, Kali, BNE. Could also include info related to some of the major fan contributions, like the Occult, Kpuds, etc. There's probably others but I didn't start playing 'til '04, I think most of the boom was before that. Burnt or iL might have a launch date for war2.ru. The WC2 Festival is an important entry too; I know it's in July each year but the specific date probably varies, so that one may have to be added manually. Have you talked with Burnt yet about the calendar in general? 


This is exactly the type of response I've been waiting for on this thread.  I will research all of these dates and add them to the calendar today.  We could post things like this in the format This Day In WarCraft II: WarCraft II First Released 1995 or something like that.

A great way to make the calendar idea more useful & practical would be to delegate the ability to add events to the users that might use it, like USA-Archer who's running his own tournies. The built-in SMF calendar would be great for that but embed options are pretty limited. If a two way sync could be set up between SMF calendar and GCal that'd be perfect, but it'd take some fancy coding if it's even possible.


Great recommendation.  I will talk to USA-Archer about this.  It looks like it's possible to sync SMF calendar and Google Calendar but we would only be able to sync the events to the Google Calendar by posting them from the SMF calendar.  I have read that there are problems with user permissions though as it involves using gCalSync.  I don't recommend even trying it.  I've only been able to research information from a few years back.  I've posted this on the Simple Machines forum to see if we're able to do something like this: http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535150.0 (http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?topic=535150.0)
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 29, 2015, 03:13:25 PM
@tribunal idea: we don't have enough eople in the community. In League the community votes go in 10's of thousands to avoid variance/grief/people having a bad day, that's one.
Another argument against it is that cases there are ANONYMOUS, it would be literally impossible to have that here. People may be (or in my case - are) biased and vote punish no matter what, just because they dislike the player.

There's good stuff related to it obviously, but those two arguments outweight it imo

Some valid points but I think it could still work in our current state and to the benefit of our current state.  We've had some polls on here already and I think the results of them have been pretty justified.  Here are a few pros to doing this:

1. Gives players who are not already on the forum more of a reason to participate. 
2. Certain people will no longer cry about the admins being biased.  I'm sure they'll shift it into some other grievance but it's hopefully a step toward reducing the negative impact the subject is having on the server. 
3. Eliminates server rules.  Ganz could no longer claim there isn't a rule for karma.

Admins could still participate in the vote.  I don't see a reason to make it anonymous (it would be nice though).  After a member of community presents their case, other members are able to debate the case while the vote is in progress.  I think most members can distinguish the rational arguments from the irrational and a fair punishment will be served. 

For instance, if I go to present my case on the forum with my screenshot (from a certain folder o_o) like the one attached here I could say "Look! Claw is hacking! Ban this fool!".  Someone like myself would argue that this is not actual proof that you have been caught hacking.  In all likelihood, even considering the bias of a few people, I don't think the majority will vote to ban you.

I think the administration at this point makes good decisions but I've also seen some irrational decisions made over the years such as Dugs banning someone without proof (also attached). 
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: I hate naggers on March 29, 2015, 04:13:16 PM
1. Gives players who are not already on the forum more of a reason to participate. 
2. Certain people will no longer cry about the admins being biased.  I'm sure they'll shift it into some other grievance but it's hopefully a step toward reducing the negative impact the subject is having on the server. 
I dont care if community wants or doesnt want to participate, theyre free to register, free to post, free to join and play in the tournaments. I am not a democrat and would never give power to the people. I prefer admin/mod system with transparent decisions and i always speak up the moment i see incoherence or injustice.
Funny how you say things like:
"  Someone like myself would argue that this is not actual proof that you have been caught hacking"
but totally forget what your initial reason to start the "klaw" album was. It was to prove that i was indeed a hacker and to get me banned, so you yourself were among the biased, retarded people.

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3. Eliminates server rules.  Ganz could no longer claim there isn't a rule for karma.
let him claim whatever, he's simply wrong and no matter how many people claim that, they will still be wrong. Most of the people are retarded, biased fucktards and giving them real voting power would be destructive. My 3 cents, but iL seems to have faith in the masses, so who knows what he's going to decide.
We actually have a demonstration of what votes of the masses look like. See the rules thread - people decided that's the rules they want and then bitch about admins executing them. Pathetic.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 29, 2015, 05:02:04 PM
I dont care if community wants or doesnt want to participate, theyre free to register, free to post, free to join and play in the tournaments. I am not a democrat and would never give power to the people. I prefer admin/mod system with transparent decisions and i always speak up the moment i see incoherence or injustice.

Thanks for your input on this.  I suppose we agree to disagree.  You do make a good point and this also works fine but I still prefer my idea over it for reasons I've already specified.

Funny how you say things like:
"  Someone like myself would argue that this is not actual proof that you have been caught hacking"
but totally forget what your initial reason to start the "klaw" album was. It was to prove that i was indeed a hacker and to get me banned, so you yourself were among the biased, retarded people.

When you claim you hack, people begin to believe it.  The album is more of a joke to me at this point and really meant as a joke here.  A lot of epic Claw moments in that album.  I was never able to gain any solid proof and that's the reason I've never brought it to the attention of the admins.  I wouldn't get too worked up about it. ;)
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on March 29, 2015, 09:30:37 PM
The following dates have now been added to the calendar:

December 9, 1995 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness NA Release for PC and Mac
December 9 1996 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness EU Release for PC and Mac
August 31, 1997 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn
August 31, 1997 - WarCraft II Tides of Darkness EU Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn
November 27, 1997 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness JP Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn

These are dates that I was able to pull off of the Wikipedia page.  There are still more to come.  While viewing these dates on the calendar, please take note that you can see a full description of the event if you click on it.  Feedback is welcome.  Please let me know if you think I should change anything or format anything in a certain way.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 01, 2015, 08:59:40 PM
The following dates have just been added to the calendar:

April 30, 1996 - WarCraft II: Beyond The Dark Portal Expansion Set NA Release
April 30, 1997 - WarCraft II: Beyond The Dark Portal Expansion Set EU Release
October 8, 1999 - WarCraft II: Battle.Net Edition Release

I've also changed the format of the events and descriptions.   
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: mousEtopher on April 02, 2015, 09:29:16 AM
Good stuff. Is the 60men tourney on there? It's sometime this month right?
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 02, 2015, 10:14:58 AM
Archer has access to post events on the calendar but I'm not sure if he has posted anything yet.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: USA~Archer on April 02, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
The 60men tournament begins April 10, (i just picked the first friday that im available to manage it)

I tried to add to the calendar today but it said my token was invalid or something (maybe i waited too long to click the invitation link)

If u can add my tournament start date thatd be cool!!!


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Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on April 02, 2015, 06:05:23 PM
everyone make sure to download hacks before the tourney
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 02, 2015, 08:07:37 PM
The 60men tournament begins April 10, (i just picked the first friday that im available to manage it)

I tried to add to the calendar today but it said my token was invalid or something (maybe i waited too long to click the invitation link)

If u can add my tournament start date thatd be cool!!!

I'll look into the problem tonight.  I can add it but I think we should try to make it work on your side.  If I do end up having to add it:  On April 10, is there a specific time? Is it an all day event?  Will it span over a few days?
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 02, 2015, 11:56:53 PM
The 60men tournament begins April 10, (i just picked the first friday that im available to manage it)

I tried to add to the calendar today but it said my token was invalid or something (maybe i waited too long to click the invitation link)

If u can add my tournament start date thatd be cool!!!

I'll look into the problem tonight.  I can add it but I think we should try to make it work on your side.  If I do end up having to add it:  On April 10, is there a specific time? Is it an all day event?  Will it span over a few days?

The 60men 1v1 Tournament has been added as an all day event on April 10th.  Please let me know if you would like to add a specific time. I'll resend the invite to the calendar.  I think the problem is that it's not a gmail address.  If you have the same problem, I recommend creating a gmail account.

Update: We could create a Facebook event for this in the War2 group as it would give it more exposure.  Now that I've synced the War2 group's Facebook events to the calendar, once the event is created on Facebook it will then be added to the calendar.  Please let me know the time it will occur if you'd like for me to create the Facebook event for you. 
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: O4L on April 03, 2015, 12:36:33 AM
Rit you need admin on the fb pages to do what you were planning?
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 03, 2015, 02:40:05 AM
Rit you need admin on the fb pages to do what you were planning?

Nope.  I had originally thought it was a page and then realized it was a group.  Turns out any member of the War2 Facebook group can create an event.  In fact, I've just finished setting up the sync between the group's Facebook events and the calendar on the website.  I've tested it and it works great.  The events are added to the calendar in the format of: (Start Time) (Event Name)

The Facebook group has over 1,000 members.  This is absolutely the best place to start advertising an event as it's likely to attract more people.

Also, I'd like to acknowledge the fact that this would not be possible without all of the hard work you've put in over the past few years.  The Dark Warrior videos, the tournaments, and advertising have helped keep this server going as time began to take it's toll on it.  This is what has helped accumulate over 1,000 members in a Facebook group.  Thank you for everything you've done to keep this server and game alive.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: mousEtopher on April 03, 2015, 09:07:47 AM
Burnt's the man.

I'll resend the invite to the calendar.  I think the problem is that it's not a gmail address.  If you have the same problem, I recommend creating a gmail account.

It needs to be a Google account. Gmail will work because gmail automatically has one tied to it, but you can create a Google account with any old email address, e.g. @yahoo. If you haven't specifically created a Google account with that address though it won't work.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 07, 2015, 01:01:03 AM
December 9, 1995 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness NA Release for PC and Mac
December 9 1996 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness EU Release for PC and Mac
August 31, 1997 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn
August 31, 1997 - WarCraft II Tides of Darkness EU Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn
November 27, 1997 - WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness JP Release for Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn

April 30, 1996 - WarCraft II: Beyond The Dark Portal Expansion Set NA Release
April 30, 1997 - WarCraft II: Beyond The Dark Portal Expansion Set EU Release
October 8, 1999 - WarCraft II: Battle.Net Edition Release

I will continue to post all historic dates here as they are added. 

I found the Kali release date on IGN.com which is June 8, 1997.  However, Kali.net states that they have been in business since 1995.  Any thoughts on this?

If anyone would like to do their own research and pass on specific dates of things you feel should be added to this calendar, it would help out a great deal. 
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: mousEtopher on April 07, 2015, 07:16:26 AM
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The original MS-DOS version of Kali was created by Scott Coleman and Jay Cotton in the spring of 1995.

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In the summer of 1995, Scott went off to work for Interplay Productions and Jay formed a new company, Kali Inc., to develop and market Kali. Jay and his team developed the first Windows version (Kali95) and all subsequent versions.

IGN lists Kali 95, so that's presumably the launch date of the Windows version. It says 6th, not 8th btw.
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 07, 2015, 03:59:05 PM
It says 6th, not 8th btw.

Indeed.  I need glasses. :D
Title: Re: WarCraft II Event Calendar Discussion
Post by: Rit on April 07, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
IGN lists Kali 95, so that's presumably the launch date of the Windows version.

Kali Wikipedia Page: "In the summer of 1995, Scott went off to work for Interplay Productions and Jay formed a new company, Kali Inc., to develop and market Kali. Jay and his team developed the first Windows version (Kali95) and all subsequent versions."

The 95 really threw me off. 

The following date has been added to the calendar:

June 6, 1997 - Kali Released for Windows