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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: GaNzTheLegend on August 14, 2015, 08:08:14 PM
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Here is what he was able to put together in only 2 months
"I already put together everything listed in this thread (except a hostbot), antihack, hardware ban, ladders, user customizable icons, clans, observer features, and a shit ton of other things and compiled it into war2.us"
I think its time to give the server to Lance. iL seems way to busy to be able to accomplish the things that need to be done and seems to have lost interest in the game. We can keep the current admins etc.
iL is in favor of this if the community and admins are. What do you say war2 community?
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I'm not going through this again.
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I'm not going through this again.
Stfu grown men talking here.
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Lance is definitely active enough to fit any post that you recommended Ganz.
Voted Yes, no brainier.
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IL said he trusts lance now and would ask the other admins and community about this so here it is. I just hope people don't make the same mistake as last time.
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I'm not going through this again.
Stfu grown men talking here.
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You know what fuck you ryu. Suck a dick. Grow the fuck up. Go outside breath the fresh air.
Okay this is my breaking point. All this work for nothing countless days and hours.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQaSAxCjpnU
There I will just trash the project. Maybe continue it on my own. I can release it now. But I was adding into il antihack for you all.
Fine you want him to run your server so be it I fucking give.
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i voted yes.
couldnt hurt.. game dies without him. if it dies with him it's not like he killed it.
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Yes for M_Lance_G
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my deadline idea is better than this
lets encourage iL to give us a deadline, be it 2 or 3 months
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il will probably make sure its fixed. lance would be ok also seems like a nice dude and i dont know who wouldnt want tupac on their team good work man.
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il will probably make sure its fixed. lance would be ok also seems like a nice dude and i dont know who wouldnt want tupac on their team good work man.
I am sure he will...but the game doesn't that have much time.
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This is not good to many would not go to lances server again period. Splitting the community one more time and this game dies period. I'll be the first to go.
I will not see the community trash on iL and ditch him. He made this server available for us all to play. Invested so much time and money into this game for us to play free. All he asked is not to cheat and follow his rules.
This thread just makes me sick. You all know the history of lance. Yes cyber criminal like archer, ddos attack, backdoor, threats to make people disappear.
I do believe people can change. But once you abused your access at the level he was at is outrageous. Maybe I don't know the full story but I was a witness to it all.
I was once with space, lance, in there early development of custom. I actually start making a loader for them never used it and lance had better plans. If I ask about a file and you explain them great. But I ask about your auto updater boom your whole crew said I said it was a virus. Kinda true I said that but I also implied that it's clean now but when ever he wants he would access your machine.
If lance cared about war2 he would of been like here is this code for this. Showing he hasn't hand over everything he made in two months.... shows he just wants the power... thats not a user friendly server.
There was never a good antihack released for war2 I wrote one in about 6 hours. You all shit a brick because you all just realized tupac is not playing no more.
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This is not good to many would not go to lances server again period. Splitting the community one more time and this game dies period. I'll be the first to go.
I will not see the community trash on iL and ditch him. He made this server available for us all to play. Invested so much time and money into this game for us to play free. All he asked is not to cheat and follow his rules.
This thread just makes me sick. You all know the history of lance. Yes cyber criminal like archer, ddos attack, backdoor, threats to make people disappear.
I do believe people can change. But once you abused your access at the level he was at is outrageous. Maybe I don't know the full story but I was a witness to it all.
I was once with space, lance, in there early development of custom. I actually start making a loader for them never used it and lance had better plans. If I ask about a file and you explain them great. But I ask about your auto updater boom your whole crew said I said it was a virus. Kinda true I said that but I also implied that it's clean now but when ever he wants he would access your machine.
If lance cared about war2 he would of been like here is this code for this. Showing he hasn't hand over everything he made in two months.... shows he just wants the power... thats not a user friendly server.
There was never a good antihack released for war2 I wrote one in about 6 hours. You all shit a brick because you all just realized tupac is not playing no more.
Who is talking about splitting it? The title clearly states he will host ru server.
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Ldir needs to do that. But seriously wtf that is all you got out of all that...
I swear if this shit goes down I'm setting up old school ipx tides of darkness with antihack, everyone can host, no lag. If anyone would like to attend to this let me know.
Features
Anti hack
No hosting issues
No lag
You can use cheats online if host enables no need to hack rofl
Play on windows, android, linux! Etc.
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This is not good to many would not go to lances server again period. Splitting the community one more time and this game dies period. I'll be the first to go.
I will not see the community trash on iL and ditch him. He made this server available for us all to play. Invested so much time and money into this game for us to play free. All he asked is not to cheat and follow his rules.
This thread just makes me sick. You all know the history of lance. Yes cyber criminal like archer, ddos attack, backdoor, threats to make people disappear.
I do believe people can change. But once you abused your access at the level he was at is outrageous. Maybe I don't know the full story but I was a witness to it all.
I was once with space, lance, in there early development of custom. I actually start making a loader for them never used it and lance had better plans. If I ask about a file and you explain them great. But I ask about your auto updater boom your whole crew said I said it was a virus. Kinda true I said that but I also implied that it's clean now but when ever he wants he would access your machine.
If lance cared about war2 he would of been like here is this code for this. Showing he hasn't hand over everything he made in two months.... shows he just wants the power... thats not a user friendly server.
There was never a good antihack released for war2 I wrote one in about 6 hours. You all shit a brick because you all just realized tupac is not playing no more.
Who is talking about splitting it? The title clearly states he will host ru server.
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Even idk, he talks out of his ass a lot...[emoji19]
Tupac, stfu and just vote. If you against it, vote "no". Don't need your dramatic explanations lol...
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And his crew appears!
I'm done.
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And his crew appears!
I'm done.
Lol his crew? Look who is already splitting the community up...shame on you Tupac [emoji53]
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lol the ipx dosbox was kickass!but working with bnet is the best for noob players keep everyone together.
pros would maybe like it better dam response is realtime.
still can rebuild engine in game maker lots of time to do stuff no rush <---quickest way to bam(big ass maps)
just everyone try and have fun :).
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And his crew appears!
I'm done.
Lol his crew? Look who is already splitting the community up...shame on you Tupac [emoji53]
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If iL hands over I'm making my own shit.
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And his crew appears!
I'm done.
Lol his crew? Look who is already splitting the community up...shame on you Tupac [emoji53]
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If iL hands over I'm making my own shit.
ipx lags war2 tho, we already tried that with voobly
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Not to mention that it defaults to not using ANY of BNE's features such as sounds for eye of kilrog, shared vision, faster first townhall build time, etc. It defaults to the original War2 of Kahn/Kali except it's missing the wood bug I believe. I wouldnt vote for myself or against myself here. I'd simply wait to hear from iL himself. If he wants help, he'll ask for it. Without his cooperation regarding the domain name, everything I'd be able to do would all be for not. And I believe the domain still belongs to LDir, so in reality, its probably up to Ldir still and not iL unless he has given iL access to the domain registarr which is a possibility. I dont know the current ownership of the domain. Other options are just shell access to fix the server, whip it into shape, etc. But it's obvious that the first whip lashing of the server is to move it to a US based server. After that, keeping it stable is something I'm a little better suited at doing than iL or anyone RU has had in the past. As for helping with development, all thats needed is to see what iL has been working on and the ability to modify it and actually have it implemented either by myself or iL. Would prefer to be able to do that myself directly to of course cut down on middle man time. But none of any of that has ever been possible and I dont see that changing anytime soon. iL did send me the source of his PVPGN once, but when I asked if he would implement things that I add, he wasnt sure how to do that. So I am certain that he'd never heard of GIT before. Right now, IMO, it makes sense to turn this into a real collaborative effort with professional software development methodologies (definitely NOT waterfall, but instead, Scrum/Agile), use of Git by all parties involved. I'm sure Tupac has used it before as has any professional developer. Jira is a good platform for management, but its expensive. We could easily make use of something like Springloops which isnt quite as featureful as Jira, but its every bit as professional when it comes to software dev. Right now, NONE of that exists and without it, getting things done and completed will be nearly impossible. Even Github would be better than nothin although its a bit to public since it would expose some of the security measures behind the scenes that we shouldnt be showing. Although if they are secure enough, making it all public should not be an issue at all really. I dont know how secure the current project code is, so keeping it private may be the better option for right now.
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I vote Yes!
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Yes from me. The war2 custom stuff he's made in the past did fix alot of peoples issues with hosting automatically (even if they just installed/uninstalled when they got told it was a virus)
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telling iL to gtfo and abandon all the projects instantly wont help with working out a consensus here. and whats the main argument against iL? time. deadline solves both issues. Give iL time by which two milestones will be completed. Should he fail, then i think everyone will agree its time to give someone else a chance
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telling iL to gtfo and abandon all the projects instantly wont help with working out a consensus here. and whats the main argument against iL? time. deadline solves both issues. Give iL time by which two milestones will be completed. Should he fail, then i think everyone will agree its time to give someone else a chance
iL would still be part.of the Admin team and could continue working on things if he wants.
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I find Ryu's vote description in this poll amusing. Those same words could just as easily apply to a no vote if he had any knowledge of this community's history. My fear would be that if lance took over control of the server, every once in awhile a player would go "missing" as we've seen before. That said this ridiculous thing with the server going down every night at 10pm is bad enough that I might actually change my mind.
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I find Ryu's vote description in this poll amusing. Those same words could just as easily apply to a no vote if he had any knowledge of this community's history. My fear would be that if lance took over control of the server, every once in awhile a player would go "missing" as we've seen before. That said this ridiculous thing with the server going down every night at 10pm is bad enough that I might actually change my mind.
The player could just post on the forum.
It is pretty rediculous that this problem has been allowed to percist for this long. I would have changed hosts again a long time ago.
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I find Ryu's vote description in this poll amusing. Those same words could just as easily apply to a no vote if he had any knowledge of this community's history. My fear would be that if lance took over control of the server, every once in awhile a player would go "missing" as we've seen before. That said this ridiculous thing with the server going down every night at 10pm is bad enough that I might actually change my mind.
Knowledge of what? Sincerly, in ten years, ive never eard anyone telling me he get hacked by lance.
All i know is that peoples who follow this rumor like sheeps.
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I'm not sure how much he'll still deny, but he secretly banned several people - and not for hacking - from his crystaldawn.net (instead of banning them on war2) so they couldn't access the server or the website. This happened to both khb and Jitter at one time, as well as others. He wasn't even supposed to be an admin either but he was hosting the server so he was able to do that. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that I'm not sure we want to go into again, but that, for starters, is a reason to be concerned with him being host. If he will swear not to do that stuff in the future I'd feel better about it, but things like that should give people pause.
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Basically, he seems reformed and in good behavior, so I don't want to go bringing up old history too much, but people should at least be aware that there was abuse from his end last time he was hosting.
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I find Ryu's vote description in this poll amusing. Those same words could just as easily apply to a no vote if he had any knowledge of this community's history. My fear would be that if lance took over control of the server, every once in awhile a player would go "missing" as we've seen before. That said this ridiculous thing with the server going down every night at 10pm is bad enough that I might actually change my mind.
I know the history bud, what I also know right now is that without him this server is going to shits because of your shitty and useless Administration. IL is proving himself to be as useless as yourself, under his host...the future of this place looks bleek.
You have the time to read my comment and analyze it, yet where is your vote?
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I'm not sure how much he'll still deny, but he secretly banned several people - and not for hacking - from his crystaldawn.net (instead of banning them on war2) so they couldn't access the server or the website. This happened to both khb and Jitter at one time, as well as others. He wasn't even supposed to be an admin either but he was hosting the server so he was able to do that. There's a whole bunch of other stuff that I'm not sure we want to go into again, but that, for starters, is a reason to be concerned with him being host. If he will swear not to do that stuff in the future I'd feel better about it, but things like that should give people pause.
There a difference between banning peoples and hacking peoples to steal there bank account and personal informations.
Did really people cares about whos lance have banned? This kind of behavior is easy to fix and dont deserve all that fake rumours peoples start on him.
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I never claimed Lance would hack people's bank accounts. But you can't shrug off people getting randomly banned from the server and site. That's a bad thing to happen.
Not a good response: "Who cares?" A good response: "It won't happen again." People banned by Lance = Frost, jon, Burnt, KHB, Jitter, and more. That would be very bad for War2 if something like it happened again.
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That would be very bad for War2 if something like it happened again.
What would be even worse for war2 is if we let your neglect of this server continue. It's time for a change.
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Lance has changed. All this stuff is ancient history.
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Thank you GaNz. You don't play this game and never will so you're irrelevant, but if you believe he's changed that's a defensible opinion. I would like to hear it from him of course. Btw, saying, like Ryu did, that a bunch of people being banned is better than the status quo, is absolutely crazy and wrong.
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Lots of people in the past have said "omgz the game is dead" ... I understood that the game had a lot less players than it had in the past, but as long as i was able to log on and get a game in a relatively short amount of time it was never dead to me.
Now, the game in my opinion is "dead" ... yeah there are still people logging on, but unless you just enjoy logging on to chat (which some people do) trying to actually play the game competitively is pointless.
I honestly dont think at this point the fear of Lance abusively banning people is a huge factor. If it were 3, 4, or more years ago I would agree.. But right now there isn't a lot of damage anyone can inflict on the community. Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit the game is gone.
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Giving Lance the server is like giving someone this car... Sure if someone put the time and energy into it, she might clean up real nice and be something the driver can be proud of. But if you were to accidentally set it on fire and roll it down a hill at the end of the day it's still an old beat up near worthless car.
(http://www.fosilfueled.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/shit-car-021-10052013.jpg)
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Thank you GaNz. You don't play this game and never will so you're irrelevant, but if you believe he's changed that's a defensible opinion. I would like to hear it from him of course. Btw, saying, like Ryu did, that a bunch of people being banned is better than the status quo, is absolutely crazy and wrong.
His actions over the past year speak for themselves.
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So you don't even need an admission or a promise not to do it again?
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So you don't even need an admission or a promise not to do it again?
Do you really think he would do it again and risk losing the server again? Hes not retarded. Just like he stopped hacking and streamed all his games for the past 2 years
You guys can come up with some rules for him to follow like not banning players without approval from other admins or whatever and he can agree to them if you want.
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Btw, saying, like Ryu did, that a bunch of people being banned is better than the status quo, is absolutely crazy and wrong.
Of course you feel that way...your part of the problem that is killing this server. What the fuck have you done in recent months to help save the community? Other than sit on your ass and ban people. Lance has changed, like GaNz said, it's ancient history...move on.
I honestly dont think at this point the fear of Lance abusively banning people is a huge factor. If it were 3, 4, or more years ago I would agree.. But right now there isn't a lot of damage anyone can inflict on the community. Anyone who is honest with themselves will admit the game is gone.
At least someone understands my point. [emoji52]
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I spoke on this topic already Blid. My stance is simple. I'll only entertain whatever iL asks me to do and nothing more. iL hasnt even asked me to help out with the current server let alone entertain taking it over myself. I was actually the first to approach him when he was having issues with Archer's UDP DOS and I was able to help him get it figured out with just 1 PM. But again, it was not iL doing the initiating, it was me. He also didnt post the source for his Hostbot on his own either. I had to ask him to do that. In order for things to improve, it would have to be the other way around. If he's having issues, he knows that he's welcome to ask since I have told him that numerous times. But he has never actually acted upon those offers. Maybe he doesnt need help, idk. But whatever the reason, it still makes it pointless to consider such options really. Any "demands or promises" that I would even consider, would come from iL. I certainly wouldnt acknowledge anything you have to say since 85% of it is based on false accusations/stories/misinformation, etc. Anything you say is based on the FUD that has been circulating for years. You're one of the biggest culprits of the FUD I've spoken about for many years. And you know who admitted to it before you? (and that was a HUGE surprise to me because I thought he would NEVER come clean) Burnt is the only one to have finally come forward and admit that the shit that was said about me was completely false and done only to make me look bad because he was mad about whatever, his life in general was not all cherries and roses as we all know. The thread about that is on the old occult forum. Maybe you missed it?
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it worries me that lance pretends i hacked or have been caught hacking. why do hackers always project their sins on to other people :(
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it worries me that lance pretends i hacked or have been caught hacking. why do hackers always project their sins on to other people :(
u showed me quite a few of ur hacks. only a moron would believe u never used them against people
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I didn't even play the game when Claw was around but based on what I have read, I also think its highly likely that claw hacks.
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I didn't even play the game when Claw was around but based on what I have read, I also think its highly likely that claw hacks.
He's guilty of way more than that...[emoji19]
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Yes we all know claw hacks remember him denying it in all the threads I argued with him in. But oh well who cares..
Just remember what happend in the past. Who knows what side is true. But I do remember what he told me and stuff he was caught doing. Because I like to express my opinion and experience I will be a target eventually. I will then be forced to leave the community.
People do change so I guess in time you will see if he did.
I probably won't post much but I plan to finish a stable version of anti-hack for iL, and a different version anyone can easily setup and update. If shit hits the fan, people disappear, someone won't have to start from scratch to save war2.
I'm going to try to play a few games tonight for old times sake.
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Because I like to express my opinion and experience I will be a target eventually. I will then be forced to leave the community.
People do change so I guess in time you will see if he did.
I probably won't post much but I plan to finish a stable version of anti-hack for iL, and a different version anyone can easily setup and update. If shit hits the fan, people disappear, someone won't have to start from scratch to save war2.
I'm going to try to play a few games tonight for old times sake.
Lol oh brother...stop being so dramatic. No one even cares to fuck with you...your not worth the time. You keep creating drama. Take your pill(s) and we'll see'ya in a few days...[emoji19]
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yep. but our words dont matter! we should focus on evidence. And either im clean or the greatest hacker w2 server ever had and will never be caught, so...
selling bitch button for 15 cents
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yep. but our words dont matter! we should focus on evidence. And either im clean or the greatest hacker w2 server ever had and will never be caught, so...
selling bitch button for 15 cents
Or thief*
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yep. but our words dont matter! we should focus on evidence. And either im clean or the greatest hacker w2 server ever had and will never be caught, so...
selling bitch button for 15 cents
Best hacker? Nobody even considers you good.
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Definitely not a hacker. Name some hacks you actaully made.
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Definitely not a hacker. Name some hacks you actaully made.
I am curious to as to some of yours, you brag to me all the time about your great exploits...
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