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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Harrywangs on May 15, 2020, 04:10:40 PM
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Chalky was repping Kyr's temple above 8 all game. He made 3 halls and was building S9. Then Kyr left, and Chalky obv hid. Then times outs and finally disconnected.
He needs warning/bad. And, in my opinion, his aka should be outed 100%.
To open fiile (I used this): https://pcxviewer.com/onlineviewer.aspx
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Two more.
Please respond admins.
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Interfering with games isn't a bannable offense. Just let fellow players know not to let him in games and have him banned in-game.
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Just ban that griefer from all your upcoming games and squelch him.
The guy clearly was an ass for not respecting the server etiquette but although it is very unhealthy and annoying, griefing is not against the rules.
But rest assured, karma never disappoints: griefing certainly is a good way to make sure you cannot find people to play with in a very near future! Maybe that wont fix your game but maybe the simple thought of him sitting out many games in a row may cheer you up a bit ;) :newthumbsup:.
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This needs to be a bannable or warnable offense. I am disappointment that it is not.
All this does, is make everyone ban smurfs, including new people, because nobody knows who is a smurf or not. Banning new people is a great way to make people stop playing this game. And we've had a decent amount of new people lately.
Banning new people is detrimental to the game. That or, as I said, if this happens, smurfs should be outted with their real akas. This way it is shameful to them, everyone knows who they are for the future, and it will prevent people from doing it by knowing the consequences.
And at least 1 ladder win did not count because of it. (missing 2 but didn't look game b4 to see if buildings were made)
I would also like to give kudos to Kyr for being a honest player with integrity. He chose not to use that temple the rest of the game. Thank you for that.
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How do you spell this guys name? I can't view any of the attachments.
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OK I'm assuming his name is, "chalk." He is a known troll, I've banned him once before.
Guy doesn't have a real name he just make new names every time he logs in trolls and logs off.
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Say you play one night and the dude comes in your game and griefs you leave and you can just ban him from the next 10 games you will have that night.
Sure he could smurf on another account but he will have to sit at least the next one out and if he keeps doing that then in that case it is very much bannable as it is against the rules to try and bypass squelches and troll to try to abuse/harras someone else.
So if he ever goes that far report that behavior instead, and banned or warned he will be.
Do not ban a smurf joining your games even if you just had previously banned the guy on another account make a screenshot and then an admin can investigate if yes or not the guy indeed came back on a smurf to bypass your ban and grief / troll your game. Also if he is being persistent and you have had enough host under a password.
So no clearly the answer here is not to ban smurfs and potential new players, let him come and grief if he is stupid enough to try and bypass your bans write down his akas take screenshots and voila you have caught him red handed.
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Chalkywhite is his name. Like you said, he will log on a different name.
It is against the rules to "try and bypass squelches and troll to try to abuse/harass someone else"? Are you sure about that? How is that a rule but doing what he did is not?
To open the attachments I used: https://pcxviewer.com/onlineviewer.aspx (PS, I can not verify that this site is safe or anything. Was just a top Google search)
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Maybe rename your files to "png" so we can all view them without having to download something?
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Yeah rename the files, I just saw who it is. I have a hard time believing it was that big a deal...
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Grieffing is not against the rule but it is not advised for obvious reasons Server etiquette (http://en.war2.ru/about/server-etiquette)
Trying to bypass the squelch and ban tools of someone else and trying to harras said person is against the Rules (http://en.war2.ru/about/server-rules) though.
As I said I was just reacting to your original point saying that, the guy may be served a warning but not for griefing more probably for trying to bypass your attempts to ignore him rather than the act of griefing itself if that makes more sense. But then you would have to be able to prove he did do exactly that which maybe your screens do but I have not seen them yet :slight_smile:
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I didn't want to mess with the files so people didn't say they were "tampered" with or anything.
I can't open it myself. Here, I took screen shots of it.
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Ok I’ll you who it was since I already spoke to them on the server and they didn’t care if I told you.
Was Paperboysol. He said he was messing around. Said all he did was rep KYR’s temple and made a farm then went afk.
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Made 3 halls, a rax, a mill, and tried to defend s9, hid farm below 11, and repped temple, which was a big deal late game as that temple was trying to dk my expo. Used timeouts and disconnected.
If he was fucking around, then he needs to tell me himself after the game. Because he didn't, I don't consider that fucking around but that is now between him and me.
Thank you for the prompt responses and involvement.
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Last thing. Would you have given out aka if he did not agree? I just want to know if this is something I should bring up with the administration to request an amendment to the rules for future violations.
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Would I have given his name out? Probably not no.
I would have asked @tk[as] and at @Warbux what they thought first. Then would have went from there.
But since he said it was okay I skipped that and went ahead and revealed.
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Yup sorry just looked them up, there is no smurfing here, and no attempt to bypass a ban just a dude being a douche and griefing a game or messing around.
Solution: Ban him if he tries to join your games next time but unless you see him trying to bypass these and the rest of the tools already at your disposal to handle these kind of situations there is nothing an admin can do because well these tools are here for a reason.
Banning his known account from your games in the future and/or squelching him should be enough to deal with this if it is not because he bypasses them then in that case take some good screenshots of him smurfing on you and an admin can investigate and check if indeed the guy should get a warning/ban. ;)
Until then I hope you do not run into that guy again and enjoy all the nice guys that joined our server lately! Plenty of new cool guys around! :thumbsup:
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thats an "in house" issue in my opinion... i think most agree.
i agree it's lame. it sucks. it ruins games.. best to just remove player from future games and move on imo.
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As long as it is discussed at least bad multiple admins, I'm good with that.
Thanks for the input Cel.
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Love how admins never cares about hackers-cheaters-retard and let that probleme between community hands everytime.
Better hate ourself between the community instead of hating 1 or 2 admins because they are doing there jobs.
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Lol paperboy is a known game ruiner