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Title: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 05, 2014, 12:44:35 AM
Place this .mpq in your warcraft 2 folder.

This will change 3 of your title sets.
Enjoy - TuPaC
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2014, 01:29:31 AM
040 is a waste dont put that.

I got desert if you want.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2014, 01:44:15 AM
Desert titltset, give me news.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 05, 2014, 02:01:37 AM
This works and you tested with latest war2? If so i might deploy this and rip the news graphic files from the mpq.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2014, 02:17:59 AM
I dint test it, i find it 1 month ago when i was lookin for volcano tiltset.

Dint find vocalno but desert was lookin pretty good too.

Also i test your mpq and tiltset screenshot 040 is not playabale.

Consider he replace the most important tiltset ( forest ) i cant keep this mpq.


Keep
screen032.jpg (94.54 kB - downloaded 5 times.)
screen037.jpg (77.75 kB - downloaded 3 times.)
As new tiltset and remove 040 to keep ( forest ) as default.


Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 30, 2014, 01:57:38 AM
do we lose the original titlesets if we use this file? or can we still pick from them?
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 30, 2014, 02:06:29 AM
Just keep a backup of original mpq. Swap for the ones you want.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 30, 2014, 02:10:04 AM
oh ok, EQ said that there was a lava one? you have that?
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 30, 2014, 02:11:19 AM
Nope only found these that actually work and not for dos.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 30, 2014, 02:12:38 AM
oh ok better than nothing!
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 30, 2014, 02:13:17 AM
Lol yeah ill update if I find more.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 30, 2014, 02:19:23 AM
sounds good keep it up! its good stuff
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: iL on December 30, 2014, 05:07:19 AM
do we lose the original titlesets if we use this file? or can we still pick from them?
Sure, this is development section, that means you're enough experienced to rebuild your own custom .mpq-archive as you wish, lol
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on December 30, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Hahaha LOL
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: EviL~Ryu on December 30, 2014, 01:17:17 PM
do we lose the original titlesets if we use this file? or can we still pick from them?

Sure, this is development section, that means you're enough experienced to rebuild your own custom .mpq-archive as you wish, lol

(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i47/5/2/7/fbz_017934467e94165ebdd7f0f3d8758bdc.jpg)

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Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 04, 2016, 04:18:31 PM
I know this is a big bump - but I do in fact have all the old tile sets in my possession (volcano, hell, jungle, etc.).  I've had them since they were released years and years ago (back in the late 90s).  Tupac, how did you get the tilesets in MPQ format?  I don't know anything about tilesets, except that they come in .wcd format.  I have found no tool that will extract the contents of .wcd files.  However, I opened War2Patch in your release, and saw the tiles in .cv4, .vr4, and .vx4 formats.  Where did you get these from? Did you extract these files from the original .wcd files? 

The Volcano, Hell, and Jungle tilesets are very interesting, and I thought we could release another War2Patch compilation with these tilesets included.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 04, 2016, 04:44:10 PM
Yes I think I found these already in mpq for me can't remember been awhile. Yes you can use wardraft to extract the title sets and modify them from the dos version.
Save those 3 files and open mpq for bnet war2, there should be 4 listed for each titleset. I've tried renaming and trying the file extention differently I got a lot of crashes alot then one time I had them show up but my tiles where showing half of hell title set and half black tile all randomly on bnet version. So I'm not sure if I even found the correct extention or I did and maybe I'm supposed to compress them or not when extracting from wardraft.... :( you can give it a try see if you can crack the puzzle.

TIPS 1 of each titlesets is a palette so 3*3*3*4 = keep renaming the file and placing with different extention. I added 4 at the end because I think wardraft has 4 options for compression. None, low, medium, high.

There is a old guy floating around that could tell us how to do it in a few minutes. But he is an asshole and lots of people think his GRID titleset is considered cheating.

I'm gonna be doing fireworks soon! So won't be back till late.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 04, 2016, 04:57:55 PM
If I try opening .wcd files using Wardraft, it gives me a bunch of unidentified files without extensions (like 0,1,2,4,5, etc.).  Do I have to rename these to .cv4 files and such?
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 04, 2016, 05:00:08 PM
If I try opening .wcd files using Wardraft, it gives me a bunch of unidentified files without extensions (like 0,1,2,4,5, etc.).  Do I have to rename these to .cv4 files and such?
I'll take a look when I get back never tried that. But yes I assume if it works like the ai.bin yeah we need to find these 3 files and correctly name them and with correct extention.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 04, 2016, 05:49:00 PM
Do you need the volcano, hell and jungle tilesets, or do you already have them?

Edit:  I also have a "wetland" tileset.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 04, 2016, 05:52:02 PM
Will be good to know how to edit this tilesets, or preview those images, seems there are some weird files that cannot be edited..
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 04, 2016, 06:12:15 PM
It works.  I got the Hell tileset to replace the expansion swamp tileset (Xswamp) in the BNE.  I extracted the files from Hell.wcd using Wardraft, and got 5 files.  I renamed files 3,4, and 5 to "xswamp.cv4", "xswamp.vr4", and "xswamp.vx4".  I merely compared the filesize of the default tileset to the new tiles to figure out what to name the files.  However, I am still unsure what to do with files 0,1, and 2.  File 2 looks like a grp file, which I guess replaces "demon.grp" or something similar. I'm not sure about the other 2 files...

Edit:  File 1 was hellhog.grp.  It replaces it with a spider.  I'm still unsure what 0 and 2 are.  The oil patches in the water don't match, and some of the decors may not be right.  It must have to do with those 2 files.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 04, 2016, 07:38:05 PM
i had a cv5 editor from sc1 that would but they look like crap...and all wrong yeah any info would be appreciated!

i belive the main page has them in the download section as a patch.mpq
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 04, 2016, 09:05:52 PM
Good job do them all. I would focus on the main titlesets and add the grps and sounds later. Very good man thank you for saving me time ;) I tried the file size way before the other way but I had no luck!! Very good keep the work up man! Tru to make a mpq and replace those 4 with all the good ones I'll be back soon!
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 04, 2016, 09:45:43 PM
Having trouble with the volcano tileset.  I got the main files working, but the palette is not correct.  I can't figure out which files are the palette.  the Volcano tileset comes with 10 files.  I know what 3 of them are for, and I'm sure I know which one replaces the seal - but the rest are a mystery.  Any ideas?  I'm thinking that maybe iceland.ppl is the palette, but I can't be sure.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 05, 2016, 12:40:17 AM
the pal should maybe be the smallest filesize one??

your on your own soilder i know shit of this area lolh
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 05, 2016, 01:14:15 AM
Having trouble with the volcano tileset.  I got the main files working, but the palette is not correct.  I can't figure out which files are the palette.  the Volcano tileset comes with 10 files.  I know what 3 of them are for, and I'm sure I know which one replaces the seal - but the rest are a mystery.  Any ideas?  I'm thinking that maybe iceland.ppl is the palette, but I can't be sure.
I can give advice but it seems you made it farther then me all my titlesets where broken and I never found the correct ways to rename them.

I would worry about the main titlesets and then you can play with dos and the patch for example write down the differences in units, sounds, etc. And we narrow down all those files.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 05, 2016, 01:47:09 AM
Is there a way to view .grp files?  If I could view them, it would make my life way easier when it comes to replacing units (no more name guessing).  The main tilesets have already been complete pretty much.  I just need to edit other stuff now...
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 05, 2016, 01:52:48 AM
retrogrp
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on July 05, 2016, 07:37:48 AM
Nice thread guys .... ^_^
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 05, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
Does anyone have the original spider critter from the war2 alpha by Brian Sawatzky?  I imagine he released it as a stand-alone, and I would like to get my hands on it if it still exists.

edit:  A better question would be, how do I modify grp files using grpedit?  If I try to open x_port (the icons) for example, it won't let me delete or add anything.  I'm just trying to copy the spider critter icon from one tileset to another.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 05, 2016, 02:48:08 PM
This is about all the mods I could find. Check through this pack! You remember the star trek ship? It's in this pack. Maybe the spider is idk but it does have hail fire to replace blizzard ;)

http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1434.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1434.0.html)

Also I'm sure retro software will allow you to edit it. See if it can extract to BMP and back to GRP if not we need to get you an editor for grp there are plunty starcraft versions you can use. Also add the war2 palette I'm sure you know that.

And when you are done with this work make a new thread I will sticky for you! Thanks man you really saved me time, and countless hours of doing this!! You should join me and easycompany with a few projects we can talk about those in pms.

Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 05, 2016, 03:04:26 PM
This is about all the mods I could find. Check through this pack! You remember the star trek ship? It's in this pack. Maybe the spider is idk but it does have hail fire to replace blizzard ;)

Maybe I can use the hail fire for fun in the tileset pack.  I'll check it out.

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Also add the war2 palette I'm sure you know that.

I know the palette has to be added, but I can't seem to get Grpedit.exe to even load a palette properly.  Can you post a link to the palette used for Warcraft 2 icons/portraits so I can make sure I'm using the correct .pal file?  Or is it located in War2dat?  Also, like I said, Grpedit won't let me delete or add anything when I open a .grp file.  Everything is greyed out...

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And when you are done with this work make a new thread I will sticky for you! Thanks man you really saved me time, and countless hours of doing this!! You should join me and easycompany with a few projects we can talk about those in pms.

I likely will not be able to, as I am currently heavily involved with another game project (for Unreal, the original '98 version).  I am actually just taking a brief respite from that project to mess around with Warcraft2 for a bit.  I will definitely release this tileset pack when I'm finished, however.

I do have another question.  How do I modify chatroom.tbl to change the name of the tilesets?  I tried using a text editor, but the game crashed. 
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 05, 2016, 03:50:24 PM
Okay yeah each titleset should have 4 files and one is the palette. Maybe find those after you apply the patches incase they changed with the hell titleset for example.

You should look at all the .tbl files and use a starcraft editor for that also. When I get to my pc I can give you names of all the software I use.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 06, 2016, 09:55:29 AM
(http://i67.tinypic.com/xeptfm.jpg)

grped it lol and the minions trick took away the crappy yellow mini :)

but its probably not buildable took out my start locations :/
my way doesn't work as of yet i figured it wouldn't  8)


only thing i know about cv4 it was with some compiler....
im currently playing war alpha again, looking at stuff...they still had war1 cat shot in it for jugs attack!!have not noticed any spiders or critters.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Delete mine too on July 06, 2016, 03:29:45 PM
([url]http://i67.tinypic.com/xeptfm.jpg[/url])

grped it lol and the minions trick took away the crappy yellow mini :)

but its probably not buildable took out my start locations :/
my way doesn't work as of yet i figured it wouldn't  8)


only thing i know about cv4 it was with some compiler....
im currently playing war alpha again, looking at stuff...they still had war1 cat shot in it for jugs attack!!have not noticed any spiders or critters.

Minimap tiles looks like your next step :)
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 06, 2016, 04:05:10 PM
negative..looks like it needs to be a tile approach :( my stuff is carpet lol..

dude i thought you had tileset info in the sticky info section...im not seeing it!!


**edit it is there over looked!

mini map can be token care off by changing the .pal, there may still be a way to carpet....
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 26, 2016, 01:13:05 PM
hey man here is wetland...yes its .wcd reading back how you got it to .vr4.

getting the other tilesets.... brb

we all want to make tilesets :( looks like it has to be done using wardraft :o i hate wardraft  >:(

K's is camerons jungle for swamp looks like you got the rest.

glacier is already added in tupacs post :/ wetland is swamp also.

these are not for use with bnet as they are.
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: Lightning_Hunter on July 26, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
hey man here is wetland...yes its .wcd reading back how you got it to .vr4.

getting the other tilesets.... brb

we all want to make tilesets :( looks like it has to be done using wardraft :o i hate wardraft  >:(

K's is camerons jungle for swamp looks like you got the rest.

glacier is already added in tupacs post :/ wetland is swamp also.

these are not for use with bnet as they are.


I guess nobody saw my update to the official tile set release thread.  I already released these tilesets (Wetland, Cameron's Jungle, and Glacier).  There are no unreleased tilesets left that I know of.  Read the first post carefully:
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2296.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2296.0.html)
Title: Re: Old School Titlesets
Post by: shesycompany on July 26, 2016, 08:25:40 PM
kk nice! yup that is all that i have found also.