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Messages - LiveFreeorDie

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You people are changing your tune every 5 minutes.

I'm still singing the same song I've always been.

I will be DELIGHTED never to set foot in this crap forum with its crap human beings ever again if your crew will drop the false accusations and smear campaign.

You've already proved yourself to be a liar, saying you didn't ban Tupac when your logic clearly states you did (since you banned Deathknight~ ...that proves you banned Tupac)...or maybe its your logic at fault here.

Stop the smear campaign, stop maligning the new server, and we will be super happy to get away from the rotten people here (such as you are showing yourself to be).

Maybe you can ban more innocent people! Great idea!!

Ban people who did nothing wrong, and support the people who want to kill them!

Long live RU, the land of the corrupt.

As you slander, insult, and attack those who have long supported ru and W2, and ban innocent people, you lament the fact so few people wanna be at ru.

People don't wanna be at ru because it sucks. Its leaders are corrupt. The players are largely mentally ill/homeless/drug addicts/drunkards/ex-cons who have no clue how to act like normal people.

Great "community" you have there.

I care less than zero if I'm banned from this crap hole lol. Go for it. Good riddance.


2) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 09:26:00 PM »
I'm going back and reading Tupac's old posts starting from page 180. I've looked through 10 pages worth of his old posts, and am seeing only a good-natured guy who regularly helped the community.

None of us are perfect as human beings, but this guy is not who he's being made out to be.


3) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 09:14:23 PM »
Out of curiosity about the whole Lance server thing I keep hearing about but know nothing about, I started to look for old threads on the topic. I found this interesting tidbit.

Burnt is the only one to have finally come forward and admit that the shit that was said about me was completely false and done only to make me look bad because he was mad about whatever,  his life in general was not all cherries and roses as we all know.  The thread about that is on the old occult forum.  Maybe you missed it?

4) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 09:09:22 PM »
Nice try.. but your leader is exposed!

Even if it wasn't you, and I want to believe it wasn't, that does not by any stretch of the imagination rule out other candidates.

5) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 09:00:30 PM »
So far there are 4 pieces of evidence that make it look like you're involved, Xurnt.

1. Your name was mixed in with all the bots.

2. You knew an attack would happen before it happened, as shown in the message you sent me on Discord.

3. You have no interest in pursuing hiring a computer expert to find out who actually is responsible with concrete evidence.

4. You could just as well be doing it in response to getting upset with Tupac so you can conveniently accuse.

There are some pieces of evidence that make it look like Tupac is NOT involved.

1. What would motivate Tupac to sabotage his own server's reputation? He is too smart to think people will be forced to a new server. That isn't what War2USA is about.

2. Tupac has tried to help mousey fix and prevent the problem from recurring.

3. Tupac is capable of a lot more than bot spam.

4. When I told him about the ru server being attacked a subsequent time, he did not know about it.

Another potential candidate has been mentioned who has the motivation, character, and resources to destroy War2USA by sabotaging its reputation by making it look like the new server is responsible for attacks.


6) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 08:48:20 PM »
He actually is very friendly to people who don't falsely accuse him of things he didn't do.

He's helped countless people with W2 tech problems, including a friend of mine I talked into playing W2.


7) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 08:43:15 PM »
The Code of Conduct applies within our Discord and within War2USA server because we want to make it friendly to people of all ages, so old and young people aren't excluded because the environment isn't suitable for them. Once we start advertising, we want to be welcoming to a wide variety of people.

If some people are expressly attacking our community publicly, its right to exist, or maliciously lying against it, that's another matter.

8) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 08:36:58 PM »
So you have no screenshots of harassment on .RU only on USA server?

The first ones are from Mouse's Discord.

Tupac was agitated because he's falsely accused without evidence. Most people would get upset about that.

I've been very clear about my agenda. I want to play a game I like with nice people and not be harassed. I also want to stop the smear campaign going on against War2USA, Tupac, and myself. We are not responsible for the attacks on ru. Tupac did not inject Trojans anywhere. That was lies from someone who had been promoting War2USA until he got banned for repeatedly violating the Code of Conduct, which was going to be a 7 day ban, but was upgraded to a permanent ban when he started spouting lies and trying to smear War2USA with ridiculous nonsense. He even accused me of having created 30 accounts to make the server look populated, but then later admitted to having done it himself:



If you have actual evidence that Tupac has done this, I want to see it. I'll even look at old threads if you have some on similar happenings just out of curiosity about what happened when I wasn't around.

I'm not about to join an enraged lynch mob of hateful, unthinking people in the absence of evidence when reason would clearly indicate that Tupac would not sabotage his own server's reputation and I myself have been repeatedly smeared, attacked, insulted, lied about by the people at ru so I know what it's like.




9) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 07:59:42 PM »





(this was his response to being warned for violating the code of conduct at the new discord server)

I already posted plenty of SS evidence above with regards to Leeroy, and you have multiple witnesses as well.



This is the guy you all wanted to protect and support.

10) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 07:43:19 PM »
He admitted to Strata-G that he was going to do it... its right there in the post. RIGHT before it happened. Open your eyes.


Show me that ss where Tupac said this to Strata-G?

That is plenty of screenshots to show that van and leeroy were both routinely harassing me, because you can even see in one of them that leeroy is taunting me about van being mean. There's even a video as well.

Pirate's Lagoon 4v4 - YouTube (time 11:53)


11) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 07:16:02 PM »
Okay, the evidence you posted is actually evidence against Tupac being the one who did it.

1. You accused him *before* anything had happened, as if you had foreknowledge of what *would* happen. Tupac did not hear about what you said about him until *after* the attacks had already started and Tupac started getting accused for it. So your theory that he was attacking ru because of what you said holds no water. He did not know what you said until after he'd already been falsely accused.

You accusing him isn't evidence that he did it. It's the opposite. You knew what would happen. How would you know? Is it you? Is it Swift? Are you in on it?  Or do you really not know? I would like to believe you're not responsible for attacking ru and blaming Tupac. But I don't know anymore. How did you know what would happen before it happened?

2. I have not stabbed anyone in the back. I am very straightforward and open about my actions and motivations. I don't stab my friends in the back. If a friendship doesn't work out, I can tell the person directly and walk away peacefully. I do not seek out to trample and destroy people with whom a friendship was no longer meeting the needs of both parties. I am okay with telling facts the way it is, particularly when I'm falsely accused and continually attacked.

3.
The admins have went above and beyond to help you out and and cater to your needs. Your own forum section, banners??, setting up streams, and handling your countless complaints. It's not their fault you never posted that word you love... EVIDENCE about the "ongoing harassment"


I can tell that you are getting your information fed to you from other sources. These aren't your own thoughts.

The moderated section was my idea, and mousey did say she would give me a section where I could keep it clean and civilized and free of vulgar language, name-calling, and vacuous hate. She then revoked the entire thing and randomly unbanned everyone, including herself, then changed the rules, and I was no longer allowed to keep such a place, in spite of having done nothing but adhere to the posted rules we had agreed to. So that was a fail. It became just like the rest of the forum (that most normal people want nothing to do with). I set up my own stream following the guidelines posted publicly for everyone. Banners? I have no idea what that is. I made my own banner for my own tourney. She made one because she volunteered it, not because I asked. So so far, nothing like the "special treatment" you're imagining has happened.

With regards to harassment, there were numerous SS's of Leeroy harassment.










Leeroy was banned at least once by mousey, but Tora just immediately unbanned him. Leeroy continued his harassment up to the time when the "Online Psychos Continue to Harass and Spam" thread was posted. Van was also harassing me repeatedly, regularly, routinely, and one-sidedly over the duration of the last minimum one year but closer to two years.

So not only did I not get "special treatment" as you're implying, but I didn't even get basic human treatment of having persistent harassers stopped. And it's easy for you to say "just ignore" when it didn't happen to you. I ignored it for close to two years, and then one day I'd had enough and decided I was done with that.

And "endless complaints" is complete nonsense. Most people complain a lot more about a lot less. You can look at my 857 forum posts and see that a very small percentage of them can be categorized as complaints. And none of my complaints are illegitimate complaints. Persistent harassment is something to complain about. It should not be happening. Period.

Quote from: LiveFreeorDie on Today at 12:53:56 PM


    I am not your enemy. I just wanna play W2 in peace. And the last week has been awesome playin W2 again. Everyone is so nice and it's just people talking, laughing, and having a good time. No harassment, no vulgar crap, no drama, just a great place to play a great game.

    Let me play in peace. Stop falsely accusing me and/or Tupac without evidence. If you have evidence, bring it.


I am glad you are getting a good laugh out of it. You guys have personally made me miserable for the last week + I am sure countless others who are dealing with your bullcrap.


We are not laughing *at* anyone. We are laughing and having a fun time playing Warcraft 2 because there are a lot of nice and fun people who don't spend their lives trying to tear other people down. You can watch some of the games that were streamed here: http://war2usa.com/index.php/watch-warcraft-ii/

These are not vengeful, angry people. They are just people who like playing Warcraft 2 in a friendly atmosphere.

I am not the one who chased away brando.

Open your eyes to who the toxic people are. The ones calling for death to human beings because they can't play a video game. The ones obsessed with a few nice people playing W2 on another server to the point they are attacking RU to try to defame and discredit that server and the users on it. The ones being rude and hateful.

I personally liked brando.

If admins had dealt with toxic users like van and Leeroy when users were complaining about them, everyone would probably still be gaming at ru like one big happy family. Ru condones and promotes toxic behavior and harassment. Ru unjustly muted and bans innocent people for no wrongdoing. Ru is full of toxic people. Ru's problems are caused by bad leadership and someone corrupt on the inside who wants to malign a little bunch of people who want to happily mind their own business and play W2.

I would GLADLY walk away from this crap forum forever if people would stop throwing around false accusations against myself, Tupac, or War2Usa.

You have not provided evidence that Tupac is responsible for the attacks on ru. I do not believe that he is. I am willing to donate $100 towards hiring a professional computer expert who can find out who actually did this. If you don't want to do that, why not? You believe Tupac is responsible. If you want to back that up with evidence by finding an unbiased party outside of W2 who is professional and reliable, let's do it. If Tupac can be shown to be guilty, he will lost my trust for lying to me, and that will pretty well be the end of the War2USA server you all are do desperate to destroy.

Moneybags Swift was waving around $5000 to throw at destroying War2USA. He can pitch in. It would destroy War2USA if Tupac could be shown to be guilty. I believe he is innocent.

If on the other hand RU reps are reluctant to find out who actually did this, that starts to make the shadow of suspicion darken and lengthen over RU actually already knowing who did it and not wanting that to be revealed.

As a final point, I would completely ignore and avoid Swift if he didn't insist on joining my games as seen in attached replay from June 30 and if he didn't insist on spearheading a Smear Campaign against me and the new server as seen below.





As you can see in these public Discord quotes, Swift is addressing Tupac, as if he is the good guy, and he is trying to smear, slander, and trash *me* to Tupac.

Since that didn't work, he then sent envoys to trash Tupac to me.

Since that didn't work, now Tupac is being painted as a "monster".

When Swift was asked for evidence about his claims, he became silent.

When asked what he wants, he remained speechless. He prefers to talk about people behind their backs rather than confront the person when they are there to speak for themselves.

What is it to him if I want to play elsewhere with a few friends? It's beyond me to understand why it's so distressing to him. It's really none of his business.

What is bothering ru now and pissing a lot of people off are these attacks. It's pissing me off too because you people have made it my problem with continual false accusations without evidence.



12) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 06:22:47 PM »
also, why are you defending tupac so bad? you do know he's openly admitted to attacking the server before, right? i was made channel mod to help get rid of tupac's floodbots (that he admitted were his) and dellam years ago. he also openly admitted to attacking burnt's computer in a thread just yesterday, openly threatening me for being banned on the server just a few days ago (i didn't ban him). so weird that you think the sun shines from his ass. truly baffling

I don't know what transpired around here when I wasn't playing.

What I've heard is that Tupac was playing Free Castles with Burnt. Burnt lost and banned him from ru when he was young because Burnt did not like losing. And Tupac didn't like that.

Maybe there was some kind of pissed off response to being treated badly in the past, I don't know, I wasn't there.

We can delve into everyone's history and rattle out some skeletons. How many ru players have a criminal background? How many are drug addicts?

If you ban everyone who has ever done anything in their lives that someone could frown upon, you'd ban every single last person that's ever lived.

We are looking at the current situation, what's happening right now. I don't know Dellam. I don't know Archer. I've heard the names, but I had no awareness of anything going on. But if occasionally someone who knows some computer stuff gets bullied and harassed by toxic people to the point where they want to get back at the rude people, that wouldn't surprise me too much. And it wouldn't be fair to pin full blame on the parties who were brought to that point while ignoring the bullies who pressed them to it.

If you'd like to show me the thread(s) where these transpired, I'll give them a glance to get a feel for what went down.

But that isn't what happened here.

Tupac put a lot of time and work into making a nice W2 server for people to play on, investing his own money into the project. It's not logical for him to sabotage his own project. It just isn't.

You have people wishing me dead for things I didn't do, so I know how it feels to be wrongfully accused. If I find myself getting angry at people and wanting revenge, I take it to God. God knows who did what and God is the source of peace and joy, and can replace sore and angry feelings with compassion, kindness, patience, gentleness, self-control. God tells us to pray for enemies, and I do. And it has power.

Love is more powerful than hate.

Forgiveness is more powerful than revenge.

I choose kindness, not because I don't know how to be mean, but because God chose kindness towards me in spite of my not deserving it.

openly threatening me for being banned on the server just a few days ago (i didn't ban him).

According to your own logic, you did ban him. Your logic states that if someone ever did something, then they did it every time it happened. Therefore you banned Tupac.

13) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 06:03:46 PM »
@Cel

When people are falsely accused, unjustly muted, unjustly banned, they understandably tend to get a little crotchety.

If you had people lying about you and wishing you dead for things you didn't do, and then they slipped on their own vomit and bonked their head, how sorry for them would you feel?

I am offering to help find out who actually did this, but it seems no one at ru really wants to know, which means either they already know, or are too brainwashed to think straight to realize Tupac wouldn't sabotage his own server like this.

14) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 05:40:21 PM »
Attacking me or being rude to me is only going to convince me that you're a mean person to people who have never been rude to you.

This girl takes insults on the internet very seriously.


I'm not the one flipping my top and wanting to put people to death because I can't play a video game.

15) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 05:34:46 PM »
If you want to convince me of some truth, bring evidence.

For starters, explain to me why someone would invest tons of time and money into building a server, only to sabotage it and destroy its reputation by attacking ru. Explain that one to me.

People will not join by force. That's a known fact. Anyone who plays there plays there because they want to be there and it's a fun place to be with fun and nice people.

Attacking me or being rude to me is only going to convince me that you're a mean person to people who have never been rude to you.

Like I said, I am willing to donate to the cause of hiring an unbiased professional computer expert to track down who actually did this.

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