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Title: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 13, 2020, 08:06:09 AM
Yesterday did occur matchs up that not alot of peoples did realize.

After many years of dominance Swift lose against someone in what we can almost call a BO-5.

Yes it is real, Swift Lose 1-3 vs TD Wargasm on OLD GOW EF.

I know there rules and things about how challenge are suppose to be done.

But i clearly think it was still a challenge and swift lose it straight and fair.

Swift seem to also din't cares about all of that, telling me over and over that he dont cares.

So for those reason i will ask to tora or dugs to crown ur new legend TDWargasm for his dominence over swift yesterday 3-1.

I think Wargasm achieve something that nobody did in last years and deserve his new title as Legend!

I still think swift is a dominant player and probably will step back a day or another.

For that reason i will add a new GRAND Master tag to the series.

Swift will be Now a Grand Master.

Please dugs or tora give Legend icon to Wargasm and remove it from swift and 00kyle.

At same time give a grand Master Icon to Swift.

Thanks alot.

http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=derber (http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?player=derber)

Here the new Ranking

Legend: TDWargasm
Grand Masters: Lone, U8, Shotgun
Masters::Braviet, 00STEVE, Alf-Attack, TDLux, [BHC]Jesk, Ragner, Knitterhemd
Champs: Sepi, Dj_Boss, HarryWangs, ~ToRa~, DankThomas



Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Knitter on September 13, 2020, 11:01:45 AM
I dont get it... i thought u got to be good on ladder to challenge a master. Only a master can challenge a grand master... therefore i thought u got to be a grandmaster to challenge for a legend tag?

Dont get me wrong wargasm is cool and a strong player.
But honestly he did deserve it by winning 3 games? Without being a master?

Ur rules are shit.


Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 13, 2020, 11:24:12 AM
I dont get it... i thought u got to be good on ladder to challenge a master. Only a master can challenge a grand master... therefore i thought u got to be a grandmaster to challenge for a legend tag?

Dont get me wrong wargasm is cool and a strong player.
But honestly he did deserve it by winning 3 games? Without being a master?

Ur rules are shit.

True, ur right, the rules are shit and thats why i think it must be case by case.

In the optic where there alot of players waiting in the line and harassing title holder for challenge all day long then the rules would be usefull.

But in the optic that we are right now, it mean, where there absolutly no challenge at all because there not enouphs players and the one that do 1on1 dont cares to com on forum and ask for a challenge, then the rules are useless.

You guys have to understand something, people dosent cares about being rank and participating on challenge or tournament.

Peoples cares of having some task to do for it, because at the end people having fun being ranked or not untill they play, but they dosent have fun anymore when they have to complete task on forum and shit like that.

In 2020 games, ranking system are automate by computer, players dosent need to go on forum and ask for challenge and things like that.

As an old game we must take cares of that since we have no kind of automate systeme ranking like that.

Dont you remember you have never ask for any challenge to be master today knitter?

We do with the destiny, we follow the path.

If we wait someone to challenge swift on the forum for a bo7, we gonna wait untill 2025 when lone is finally ready.

There no thing like that anymore, destiny have decide that wargasm beat swift 3-1 yesterday and for me it's enouph to crown him as the new legend since nobody did that for probably the last 5 years.

If destiny want swift back as legend, dont worry he will win next week and we will give him back is legend tag, untill then, wargasm is the new legend.

Sorry for peoples who dont agree with that, but it is the right move to do, thanks to yall.

Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: woofy on September 13, 2020, 02:28:39 PM
icons updated. congrats WG  :newthumbsup:
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: O4L on September 13, 2020, 05:57:56 PM
I would rather take the title belt from the derber account if it was me winning the series.

Now you should set up a banner UWC style with marquee matches before the next tournament. Those were pretty cool. Could probably find the opponents based on the ladder of who is active.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Swift on September 13, 2020, 07:45:39 PM
Equinox is a very bitter person, and this is a very manipulative way to try to get me to associate in his "league". For the last few months I've told equinox over and over, after he insists I play lone, or sg, or play in his 4 man ffa, that I won't be associating in any leagues/tournaments for the foreseeable future. When I try to tell him that, he continues to name call. He has been aggressively and non-stop calling me a coward, name calling and harassing me in attempt to get me to do what he wants (play whoever he says I have to play).

Doug - I talked to Tora on Facebook messenger months ago and requested that he remove the "legend icon" and he understood that I don't want to associate with eq or his league stuff. Tora said he would do it, but I think he forgot. I have expressed I do not want to be associated with equinox's challenges whatsoever, and I just want to play the game without being bothered. Would you please remove any and all icons from my name, give me double swords or whatever, and not add any icons whatsoever in the future.

I do not think I should be forced to be subject to playing war2 competitively for "icons" or "prizes" or whatever.

Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: tk[as] on September 13, 2020, 07:54:56 PM
Anyone else smell that? What is that smell? Is that FEARRRR?
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2020, 08:14:00 PM
Yeah if a player doesn’t want to participate I think we can remove them. I remember Sepi asked me a similar request.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: tk[as] on September 13, 2020, 08:21:26 PM
I agree. Swifts got homes to sell.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 13, 2020, 08:38:55 PM
Equinox is a very bitter person, and this is a very manipulative way to try to get me to associate in his "league". For the last few months I've told equinox over and over, after he insists I play lone, or sg, or play in his 4 man ffa, that I won't be associating in any leagues/tournaments for the foreseeable future. When I try to tell him that, he continues to name call. He has been aggressively and non-stop calling me a coward, name calling and harassing me in attempt to get me to do what he wants (play whoever he says I have to play).

Doug - I talked to Tora on Facebook messenger months ago and requested that he remove the "legend icon" and he understood that I don't want to associate with eq or his league stuff. Tora said he would do it, but I think he forgot. I have expressed I do not want to be associated with equinox's challenges whatsoever, and I just want to play the game without being bothered. Would you please remove any and all icons from my name, give me double swords or whatever, and not add any icons whatsoever in the future.

I do not think I should be forced to be subject to playing war2 competitively for "icons" or "prizes" or whatever.


You are the manipulator here, you always have been, it not something new that i call you coward, it's gonna be years..... Why ? Cuz it's gonna be years you act like one.

We try to create something solid for that communauty, a ranking systeme where peoples have objective and prizes for it, but instead of trying to help us and show exemple to other you just cry over and over about how hard it is to do a bo-7 from times to times.

Yesterday you was saying that you have real life, and that ur only objective in life.

And i understand that, thats why i dont bother some peoples like WG by exemple... Because actually i can believe that kind of person since he came play 2-3 hours every 2 days.

But someone in ur case who play 8 hours per days since 20 years telling me he cant do a b07 because he got '' life ''? What a joke you are..... And even there, Nobody have never force you at anything, actually i dont force nobody at anything, yeah right im gonna try to put challenge on the table for the fun of the communauty... Because peoples really enjoy those challenges.. But i dont force nobody to do anything at all, or i will already removing you, u8, BHC-Jesk and Ragner for no activities at all.

I try to be fair with everyone, it mean, i use my logic and going case by case.

In ur case, you are suppose to be the best player in the entire world, you play 1v1 all days long against different kind of peoples but you clearly refuse to play Lone.

The fact that i decide to remove that legend tag on you today is not because you have been beat in a kind of BO5, but because you was sure WG was another pawn that you will crash in front of everyone while you do everything for not playing Lone.

But WG is no joke bro, he fucking smash you 3-1 for my great pleasure and even if he also dont cares about those challenge and icon, he will do it, not for me, but for the entire communauty.

WG is a noble man who have beat you 3-1 and thats why he deserve to be our new Legend.

Now... What you gonna do bro? Are you gonna do like the last time? Are you gonna leave the game for 3 months trying to manipulate everyone around you that i am a bad guy at the point you must leave the game because of me? Because this is what you actually did 3 months ago, leaving the game trying to act like it's my fault and destroying the communauty while jo, sf, jordan and people like that follow you in ur ANTI-EQ mouvement.

He dosent cares about titles, icon and achivements, but he cares when we say we gonna make a FFA between lone sg and u8 for the legend tag and reapear by surprise the same fucking day so we cant remove his tag since he is back.

You are a fucking great liar and manipulator bro.

Thats also how you dont cares..

Taked time to make sure to almost own the entire top 5 ELO high rank of all time in hostage for yourself Lol

But you know what? Im also gonna make desappear that retarded page in a short future, only the real active player ladder will stay.

(https://i.imgur.com/gS2UEEB.png)
http://ladder.war2.ru/highrank.php (http://ladder.war2.ru/highrank.php)

Go lie somewhere else mr i dont cares i got real life.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 13, 2020, 09:06:54 PM
I would rather take the title belt from the derber account if it was me winning the series.

Now you should set up a banner UWC style with marquee matches before the next tournament. Those were pretty cool. Could probably find the opponents based on the ladder of who is active.

You think i dont know you have stole my BELT idea from UWC to give him at swift aka (Derber) and try to make me cry, i dont cares bro, it just show how haters and liars you guys have been be against me for all those years.

He can keep the belt, i keep his legend tag, because we both know thats what matter the most for him.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: O4L on September 13, 2020, 10:27:59 PM
Ok clan [z] will use the title belt for our [z] fights when they return.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 13, 2020, 10:33:29 PM
I also want to tell you a short story quick guys.

The reason why i really decide to remove Swift Legend and give it to WG!

Recently a very good player as come back, i talk about TDMedivh.

I have seen Medivh beat almost everyone in the past week.

Me, donger, braviet... And he does it with a really high gaming play skills were i was really impress.

While he was beating Donger 8-0, I was telling to watchers that medivh was probably Top5 at the moment on the server.

But In those watchers was a guy call TDWargasm, wich peoples will probably think that we are good friend and i take a side.

But the truth is, we are not friend that much, we barely speak togheter or play togheter, but i still got lot of respect for Wargasm, because he is a man of few words but with huge fire balls when it's time to step up.

So when i was telling to everyone that Medivh was probably top5, wargasm told me only 5 words....

'' Did you forgot about me ''

I tell him, i know that you are good WG, but i try to dont botter you with those challenges since i know you dont really cares about it, plus i think i am still right, nobody cant argue the fact that Swift, Lone, U8 and shotgun are probably a true top 5 at the moment, and i think medivh could be really the 5th one with that kind of play.

The only thing that he answer to me was.... '' Yeah you are right ''

Then i goes to sleep and came back later to see that Wargasm beat Medivh 4-3 and Swift 3-1.

At that moment i am like OH MY FUCKING GOD..... Totally speechless the mouth wide open telling to myself what the fuck i do now....

I mean, that guy dont speak alot, but i would not let anyone argue against the fact that WG have the biggest balls i have never seen.

What he show me that day, will be remember for ever as a true LEGEND act of courage and honor.

He dint cry like swift do since the last six month, he just fucking proof me like a man that i was wrong and he goes straight up To fix the probleme. Not trying to brag about his skills and past records and telling me hes got life and he cant fight swift.

And probably he will lose in a future random bo, but for the moment he is the true legend of the server and he did it like a fucking BOSS!

That guy show us what a true Legend suppose to be!

That guy deserve his title and i would not let nobody say anything against it.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on September 14, 2020, 05:34:20 AM
WELL YOU SEEM TO ENJOY WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOURE DOING

I THINK ITS NICE.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Shotgun on September 15, 2020, 01:07:20 AM
I think u8, Lone or myself would have gladly played swift in a BO7. Eq was trying to get us to FFA though. Seems odd that the Legend is someone far below the Grand Masters, lol
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 15, 2020, 02:37:27 AM
I think u8, Lone or myself would have gladly played swift in a BO7. Eq was trying to get us to FFA though. Seems odd that the Legend is someone far below the Grand Masters, lol


You had plenty chance of playing Swift with the FFA or without the FFA, i have asking lone to play swift for months and months, and there was nothing in ur way to do the same.. The only reason why i dint ask you to play swift it's because i dont believe you cant beat him at all, but even if i dont think that you can beat him, you still have the right to play him whenever you want.. You just dint really try, the only time you did it was the first month that he came back on september and lose 2-0 against him.

If you were beating him that day or any other day, then i would crown you as legend. But you lose 2-0 and never play him again since then.

Telling me that i was cock blocking you of beating swift is pretty retarded bro, since everyone here know im just waiting for that since the last six month and everyone act like they dont cares.

http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?offset=40&player=derber (http://ladder.war2.ru/player.php?offset=40&player=derber)

Now i want to let you know that, you can play wg whenever you want like you had the chance to do with swift, dont com to see me when someone gonna beat him and tell me that you would do the same if it's was not about me.

Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 15, 2020, 02:56:09 AM
And by the way SG i wanna say something else..

The FFA thats i was hoping to create between You, Lone and u8 was a way to crown the new Legend since Swift was not playing anymore for the last 3 months.

But you guys refuse it, and when swift came back just by miracle while we speak about removing his tag, i was still down to do a FFA BO7 Between, You Swift, U8 and Lone.. But you guys still refuse it..

From that point it was clear you guys dint want to do a FFA, but nothing was in your way to go back at swift and ask him for 1s... What you did in september but lose 2-0.

Wargasm just did what he has to do, he play him and beat him 3-1.

And probably i would not remove his tag if wg was winning 3-2, but 3-1 for me is pretty convincing.

Thats the new rules actually.... You can win a title by beating someone 4-3 in a bo-7, or you can win the title by beating someone 3-1 or 3-0 in a BO-5. It mean that you need at least 2 more wins to stole a title in a bo5.

That mean you need to win by a convincing way.

Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Shotgun on September 15, 2020, 02:57:02 AM
Lol I think I am the only person who just plays whoever whenever. If I play during the day when I'm awake I'm better than Lone, swift or u8.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 15, 2020, 03:00:56 AM
Lol I think I am the only person who just plays whoever whenever. If I play during the day when I'm awake I'm better than Lone, swift or u8.

Well maybe you are right, look i was not beliving that WG could beat swift 3-1, but he dint fucking argue with me bro, he just played him and beat him 3-1.

Since the beginning im trying to explain at all of you that whoever you beat, you gonna be declare as the new title holder.

Dont ask me for permission, just play them whenever you want and beat them, if you beat them you will be crown, and thats worth for everyone.

Thats why i say since the last 6 months, challenging peoples on forum is retarded and it mean nothing..

Just fucking play and if you win, then you win.

The only reason those rules exist it's because it's the basic rules that tora and admins have put in place before me, if it was only about me, there will no be sush of rules, cuz i think at the end it just broke the systeme and make peoples waste there time.

Only thing that we need is someone that follow games and updates the change all the time like we do, now if admin are lazy and dont wanna do the job because changing icons is too much work in a week, thats not my fault.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 16, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 16, 2020, 08:24:44 PM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 16, 2020, 08:32:03 PM
By the way, i think about that for the last 2 days, and from now, we dont need any challenge at all.. If a champ, master, grand master or legend lose in a bo-5 ( 0-3 or -1-3 ) it's consider a lose, if he lose a bo-7 or more it's consider a lose.

If a challenger try to play someone and he clearly dodge, then that challenger can com on forum and ask for an official challenge ( The rule that we have before about challenge ).

That person will have 7 days from that moment to execute the challenge or he will be strip of his title.

And from now a challenger can be anyone! ( Except smurf or people who dont use anti-hacks )

Thats the new rules.

Thanks to everyone.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: tk[as] on September 16, 2020, 09:04:01 PM
Shotgun is kinda like a braviet. Braviet is the guy to beat to be considered top 10.. because braviet will always be around rank 10 if the last 10 top players all came back at same time.

And shotgun is like the gate keeper for top 5.. because shotgun will always be around rank 5 if the top 5 in last few years all came back at same time.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 16, 2020, 09:44:39 PM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2020, 10:17:53 PM
Lol I think I am the only person who just plays whoever whenever. If I play during the day when I'm awake I'm better than Lone, swift or u8.

That’s kind of a catch 22, cause if your playing while your awake their definitely playing while their asleep and vice a versa.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 17, 2020, 01:20:11 AM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.

There something you dont understand smeagol, rules have always been the probleme, im not here to create rules, im here to remove them.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 17, 2020, 02:02:16 AM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.

There something you dont understand smeagol, rules have always been the probleme, im not here to create rules, im here to remove them.
Has nothing to do with the point at hand AT ALL. There was a clear set of rules IN PLACE when you fucked Swift out of his icon. If he wants it back he should get it BECAUSE THERE WAS RULES in place then. I have been admin of all the Facebook pages and groups for this server for years, they are to help me advertise my tournaments, this game, and to help new players. I don't use them to fuck people over I don't like. There was a clear set of rules in place when you took Swift's icon that you bypassed. If Swift wants his icon back he should get it back, and if he loses it under the new rules of lose a series you lose the icon cool then that's all good. There has to be clarity to what's going on though. You can't just change shit at any time without telling people about it.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 17, 2020, 02:05:39 AM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.

There something you dont understand smeagol, rules have always been the probleme, im not here to create rules, im here to remove them.
Has nothing to do with the point at hand AT ALL. There was a clear set of rules IN PLACE when you fucked Swift out of his icon. If he wants it back he should get it BECAUSE THERE WAS RULES in place then. I have been admin of all the Facebook pages and groups for this server for years, they are to help me advertise my tournaments, this game, and to help new players. I don't use them to fuck people over I don't like. There was a clear set of rules in place when you took Swift's icon that you bypassed. If Swift wants his icon back he should get it back, and if he loses it under the new rules then that's all good.

Swift would not have anything back untill he stop crying and he beat Wargasm or whoever gonna be the legend, thats the rule bro.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 17, 2020, 02:08:38 AM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.

There something you dont understand smeagol, rules have always been the probleme, im not here to create rules, im here to remove them.
Has nothing to do with the point at hand AT ALL. There was a clear set of rules IN PLACE when you fucked Swift out of his icon. If he wants it back he should get it BECAUSE THERE WAS RULES in place then. I have been admin of all the Facebook pages and groups for this server for years, they are to help me advertise my tournaments, this game, and to help new players. I don't use them to fuck people over I don't like. There was a clear set of rules in place when you took Swift's icon that you bypassed. If Swift wants his icon back he should get it back, and if he loses it under the new rules then that's all good.

Swift would not have anything back untill he stop stop crying and he beat wargasm or whoever gonna be the legend.

You're so stupid it's unbelievable bro. Say there is no law in place and someone does something that is legal, then it's made illegal days later. Then they go back and say you're under arrest you broke the law. The guy says but it wasn't illegal then?

You just decided Swift should lose his icon because you decided to change shit after the fact. Grow the fuck up.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 17, 2020, 02:10:02 AM
I have no problem with you making the rules whatever the fuck you want. I have a problem with you changing the rules and applying them to the past when no one was aware of them, jesus christ.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 17, 2020, 02:22:19 AM
There was a set of rules in place for how you could win/lose the icons. If you want to change it so any series can win/lose the icon okay, but the old rules were in place when Swift lost that series.

Equinox is not a god who can just come in change rules and decide where the icons go. Swift and I have had our problems in the past, we are not buddies though we get along now, but I am for what is right and Swift should not have lost his icon because Equinox wants to change the rules.

The rules were in place for a reason and Equinox is not king to be able to change them on a whim. Now that they have been announced publicly that is different, but Swift should get his icon back if he wants it, and the new series rules can be used from this point on.

Find me a rule where i cant do whatever i want.

I made the rules now bro, just enjoy like everyone, nobody cares about swift and u8 who want to cry like two babys.
Lmao this is exactly why you are a joke and should hold NO position of power EVER. I've already talked to admins about you and no they don't like how you randomly changed rules without notifying anyone. You're getting a chance to act professionally, you should try that.

The rule that says you can't do whatever you want is this is a democracy not a dictatorship. You're getting a big head over the bit of power you've gotten, stuff should be fair for everyone including people you don't like, you need to be impartial not take sides.  The rules can be changed but you have to notify people before you do that not be a dictator... You never cease to amaze me with the crap you say LOL.

There something you dont understand smeagol, rules have always been the probleme, im not here to create rules, im here to remove them.
Has nothing to do with the point at hand AT ALL. There was a clear set of rules IN PLACE when you fucked Swift out of his icon. If he wants it back he should get it BECAUSE THERE WAS RULES in place then. I have been admin of all the Facebook pages and groups for this server for years, they are to help me advertise my tournaments, this game, and to help new players. I don't use them to fuck people over I don't like. There was a clear set of rules in place when you took Swift's icon that you bypassed. If Swift wants his icon back he should get it back, and if he loses it under the new rules then that's all good.

Swift would not have anything back untill he stop stop crying and he beat wargasm or whoever gonna be the legend.

You're so stupid it's unbelievable bro. Say there is no law in place and someone does something that is legal, then it's made illegal days later. Then they go back and say you're under arrest you broke the law. The guy says but it wasn't illegal then?

You just decided Swift should lose his icon because you decided to change shit after the fact. Grow the fuck up.

Swift is a liar manipulator, he left the game 3 months ago trying to make me look like a piece of shit, (Like... It's my fault if he left) trying to manipulate peoples about it, but it dint work... He have been innactive for an entire 3 months (probably just smurfin), 3 months where the entire ranking system have been take in hostage by him for is little personal masquerade. I have wait 3 months before thinking of strippin him of his title, i have been really patien bro... And when i finally decide to do it, with a FFA between lone, u8 and sg, he came back by miricale the same day so i cant strip him anymore.

He is playing with all of us, but it's not gonna work anymore, rules have been change because of someone like him, he is not ban from the ranking bro, but hes gonna have to act like a grown man adult.

He want his title back, no problem, but he will do what he have to do and stop trying to have special privilege.

He lose 3-1 vs Wargasm, and the only rules that really matters is, dont lose! Nothing gonna change that fact, i dint strip him for free, he lose, period.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Swift on September 17, 2020, 12:25:07 PM
Equinox lives in an alternative reality. I never said my absence from Wc2 had anything to do with him, and it didn't. I also "relinquished" the icons well before I left - informing both EQ & Tora. All of this stuff about me having elaborate plans to take breaks from Warcraft and coming back in a timely fashion in order to maintain control of 'icons' is an imaginary product of a very deranged mind.

This thread has turned into:
Smeagol bringing facts and reason & Equinox making no sense while demonstrating he has mental problems and is on a very big power trip.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2020, 01:26:20 PM
Me and TK decided to let EQ run this challege / icon ritual for a few months to see how it goes.
Nobody is forced to participate.

And if after 6 months it still look like everyone hates the changes EQ brought maybe we can talk about going back to the way things were.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: (PLS DELETE MY ACC) on September 17, 2020, 02:27:29 PM
we can talk about going back to the way things were.
IT WAS STALE N DEAD

NOW AT LEAST PEOPLE BE TALKIN ABOUT IT
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2020, 03:20:24 PM
we can talk about going back to the way things were.
IT WAS STALE N DEAD

NOW AT LEAST PEOPLE BE TALKIN ABOUT IT

I know right...I started this whole "master tag/GMS/LGD" series and nobody cared about it.
We let EQ run it for a couple weeks next thing we know players are all freaking out on the server, forums, and social media boards.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 17, 2020, 07:24:38 PM
Me and TK decided to let EQ run this challege / icon ritual for a few months to see how it goes.
Nobody is forced to participate.

And if after 6 months it still look like everyone hates the changes EQ brought maybe we can talk about going back to the way things were.
6 months is well and fine as long as he actually sticks to fair rules for everyone. If he starts just choosing favorites and giving them advantages or handing out icons to his friends, then he should have it removed immediately. No admin or person who works with admins to make this server better should be doing unfair things.

As far as him running it for now that's fine. He needs to be clear on what's going from now on and not show favorites/vengeance though.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 18, 2020, 07:47:09 AM
Equinox lives in an alternative reality. I never said my absence from Wc2 had anything to do with him, and it didn't. I also "relinquished" the icons well before I left - informing both EQ & Tora. All of this stuff about me having elaborate plans to take breaks from Warcraft and coming back in a timely fashion in order to maintain control of 'icons' is an imaginary product of a very deranged mind.

This thread has turned into:
Smeagol bringing facts and reason & Equinox making no sense while demonstrating he has mental problems and is on a very big power trip.


Go cry somewhere else, if i kill my neigborg i would not told it to everyone, so i dont hope to see you saying at everyone, hey guys i fake my departure so everyone can think it's EQ fault and at same time am gonna bring, Jo, Jordan, SF with me in that spiral.

You there saying over and over that you dont cares about records title and shit... Bro you are a pathetic liar, you have cares more then anyone dude!

Look how you make sure to take the HIGH RANK ELO ladder in hostage, almost the entire top 5 dude!

(https://i.imgur.com/gS2UEEB.png)
http://ladder.war2.ru/highrank.php (http://ladder.war2.ru/highrank.php)

I also remember everytime that someone have started a thread on this forum to talk about best player of all time, and when someone was saying Viruz who whatever the fuck it was, you were camming back the same day telling us the perfect winning % ratio you got against him since the last 20 years..

Here my winning ratio % against viruz, 68,8%
Here my winning ratio % against sg, 78,2%
Here my winning ratio % against U8 76,4%

Bro ur like the only retarded in 20 years who have counts every winning ratio% against everyone and you trying to make me believe that you dont cares?

You can even look at ur signature on the forum...

'' The official Legend©®™ of Warcraft II. ''

(https://i.imgur.com/xwu9x0I.png)

Bro you are the biggest maniak of this game when we speak about records titles and shit, you dont cares about the Legend title but you must make sure to tell it at everyone on ur forum signature.

You are a liar, maniak, hypocrite and the only reason why you act that way is because you are mad i am the one who lead all this shit!

If it was someone else you will be the first to abbuse of it and add more statistics in ur delusional war2 life.

But you know, i dont cares that you hate me, you can keep banning me from ur games, you can keep talkshiting about my personal life, you can do whatever you want.

The probleme is not there, the probleme is when you act like the stupid child you are and act like you better then everyone here, when you act like you are special and you do whatever you want when you want.

Like if we need to make special mesures just for you, like if the earth must stop turning just for you, fuck it bro, there no special mesure for nobody, not even you, we are all on the same step.

But the sad part is not that you punish yourself, but the fact that you punish the entire communauty, because im pretty sure that entire communauty want to see you take part of those challenge and ranking, but you will not, you will punish that entire communauty just because of our personal grudge between me and you!

We are here trying to make something cool with this server, trying to save it, trying to make something big so we can show the entire world how war2 is nice and bring new peoples via our tournaments, challenge and twitch! Peoples like cell who work hard and ready to comments all those tourney and challenge for the twitch platform, and you dont want to be a part of it and help our communauty? You are the worst garbage that war2 have never encounter. You dont cares at all about us, you just cares about yourself!

Ur a kid bro, a mad broken kid who act depressing cuz equinox take him his lolipop!
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: Nox on September 18, 2020, 07:55:51 AM
Me and TK decided to let EQ run this challege / icon ritual for a few months to see how it goes.
Nobody is forced to participate.

And if after 6 months it still look like everyone hates the changes EQ brought maybe we can talk about going back to the way things were.
6 months is well and fine as long as he actually sticks to fair rules for everyone. If he starts just choosing favorites and giving them advantages or handing out icons to his friends, then he should have it removed immediately. No admin or person who works with admins to make this server better should be doing unfair things.

As far as him running it for now that's fine. He needs to be clear on what's going from now on and not show favorites/vengeance though.

Please smeagol, you are delusional, i dont have any favorite, i just have justice, if someone lose, he lose, period, end of the story.

Go make more tournaments where you will give prize to yourself, because that, thats pretty fucking fair, retarded.

Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 18, 2020, 04:24:03 PM
Me and TK decided to let EQ run this challege / icon ritual for a few months to see how it goes.
Nobody is forced to participate.

And if after 6 months it still look like everyone hates the changes EQ brought maybe we can talk about going back to the way things were.
6 months is well and fine as long as he actually sticks to fair rules for everyone. If he starts just choosing favorites and giving them advantages or handing out icons to his friends, then he should have it removed immediately. No admin or person who works with admins to make this server better should be doing unfair things.

As far as him running it for now that's fine. He needs to be clear on what's going from now on and not show favorites/vengeance though.

Please smeagol, you are delusional, i dont have any favorite, i just have justice, if someone lose, he lose, period, end of the story.

Go make more tournaments where you will give prize to yourself, because that, thats pretty fucking fair, retarded.


"Give prize to myself" WRONG. Do I compete in my own tournaments and sometimes win cash in them yes. People know that I am going to play and I don't give myself or anyone else an advantage though. Everyone knows what they are getting into that's the difference, transparency. People know I'm playing beforehand I don't change that.
Title: Re: We got a new Legend!
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on September 18, 2020, 04:24:47 PM
Me and TK decided to let EQ run this challege / icon ritual for a few months to see how it goes.
Nobody is forced to participate.

And if after 6 months it still look like everyone hates the changes EQ brought maybe we can talk about going back to the way things were.
6 months is well and fine as long as he actually sticks to fair rules for everyone. If he starts just choosing favorites and giving them advantages or handing out icons to his friends, then he should have it removed immediately. No admin or person who works with admins to make this server better should be doing unfair things.

As far as him running it for now that's fine. He needs to be clear on what's going from now on and not show favorites/vengeance though.

Please smeagol, you are delusional, i dont have any favorite, i just have justice, if someone lose, he lose, period, end of the story.

Go make more tournaments where you will give prize to yourself, because that, thats pretty fucking fair, retarded.


LMFAO!!! Holy shit I've seen it all now the grand master king Daddy of delusions just called me delusional. You changed the rules without even notifying anyone. Then when Swift lost his icon and I said he should get it back you brought up all kinds of personal feelings and past you have with him. LOLLLLLLLLLL pot calling the kettle black, or maybe the insane Frenchman calling the reasonable American black in this case hmm... LOL.