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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Nox on July 13, 2015, 10:33:23 PM
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Do you want iL to sell war2ru to Tk!
I think it will be amazing if that happen, it will make this game live again, totally, period.
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is lance part of tks team?
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I dont think lance is nobody part, lance dont look interess to take cares of this game anymore, i think he just want to play.
Anyway lance is not the question and if you doubt about tk your just pretty strange.
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if tk buys it who will do development??
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if tk buys it who will do development??
Im pretty sure tupac will, maybe im wrong too, anyway tk know how to do programmation too.
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if tk buys it who will do development??
Im pretty sure tupac will, maybe im wrong too, anyway tk know how to do programmation too.
I don't think the level that is required to keep the server maintained.
I can already see holes in your plan.
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if he sells... i still start from scratch. some old admins might be part of the team, and definitely some new ones.
the only difference would be i wouldnt keep anyone around who didnt have their heart in it. get rid of anyone just sticking around just to stick around.
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if tk buys it who will do development??
Im pretty sure tupac will, maybe im wrong too, anyway tk know how to do programmation too.
I don't think the level that is required to keep the server maintained.
I can already see holes in your plan.
How the fuck do you see a bigger hole then right now? Have Tk as admin will fix the fact admins are lazy and selfish and cant even take good decision.
Maybe you can see hole, but i garantee you with tk as main admin we gonna see real improve.
Do you know why? Because tk is actually a real good player who love this game and have time to put on it, he also not scared to try new things, period dude.
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i honestly believe the amount of posts should be restricted on this forum.
theres just an enourmous amount of nonsense lately.
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i honestly believe the amount of posts should be restricted on this forum.
theres just an enourmous amount of nonsense lately.
There you go again, taking things off topic.
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i honestly believe the amount of posts should be restricted on this forum.
theres just an enourmous amount of nonsense lately.
Actually this offert by tk is the most sens post in the last 5 years.
You guys should consider this offer as your future.
I really appreciated that fact tk give us that last chance.
Be fucking serious for a minute.
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I like lance's idea where all the current admins are demoted to moderators and iL is left as only admin.
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I like lance's idea where all the current admins are demoted to moderators and iL is left as only admin.
No dudeeee, iL is the probleme, you absolutly understand nothing...
iL is not even the main admin, the main admin is lightbringer, he is the one who said everything to iL...
Wake the fuck up men, iL dont fucking cares about this game, comming 2 times per day and dint even do shit...
Working on anti hack for a year when tupac did it in 2 weeks, dude iL is done, this guy dont cares about this game anymore, he do it by obligation and because he put some work in it, but he dint even know how to play dude.. just fucking be serious.
I dont want him as admin, he should be only programmar if we want, not MORE.
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iL is not even the main admin, the main admin is lightbringer
Only in your dream world lol, Do you even know what year Lightbringer got admin at
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i honestly believe the amount of posts should be restricted on this forum.
theres just an enourmous amount of nonsense lately.
I agree, all these "Sell the server!" and "I'll buy the server for $50" and "So-and-so for president!" threads + all of EQ's various conspiracy theory posts have reached the point of ridiculousness and obviously nothing will come of them. Don't you people have better things to do, lol? wc2 is a great game, but there's more to life than trying to micromanage a tiny community of aging gamers!
But I don't know about limiting, let them talk about it if they want to.
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Don't you people have better things to do, lol? wc2 is a great game, but there's more to life than trying to micromanage a tiny community of aging gamers!
This is the exact attitude that has lead to the fall of this game. If you don't have time, GTFO and let others who do take charge. Why do you think the community is so small? Its because none of the admins really give a shit or are too busy to spend the time needed for the success of the game, yet at the same time they stand in the way of people who do have the time. The people who's lives are war2, should be the ones in charge. Not the people who log on the forums once a week to criticize the people who are trying to help.
There are no excuses for the small population PERIOD. There are tons of brood war servers with hundreds to thousands of players on at all times, several war3 servers with thousands. We are the ONLY war2 server, there should be hundreds of players on at all times. The only people to blame are the ones in charge.
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As for TK buying the server, any change is good. The population on the server has done nothing but decline so only good things can come of this.
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why do all these people need to own the server to help, and what do they even know about the technical side of running things?
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why do all these people need to own the server to help, and what do they even know about the technical side of running things?
its not hard to run at all, I looked over the documentation for PVPGN easy. I might even throw in an offer to acquire the server if it goes to auction.
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Really Ganz? Then what is the first thing you'd need to do to get it running? I dont think you could configure anything let alone make anything run at all. But since it's so easy and you've read the docs, humorous us and show us how its done because its so easy.
* Hint, the 2 most basic commands to get started is in the above flame statement ;) *
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Really Ganz? Then what is the first thing you'd need to do to get it running? I dont think you could configure anything let alone make anything run at all. But since it's so easy and you've read the docs, humorous us and show us how its done because its so easy.
* Hint, the 2 most basic commands to get started is in the above flame statement ;) *
kill yourself
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./configure
Usage: configure [options] [host]
Options: [defaults in brackets after descriptions]
Configuration:
--cache-file=FILE cache test results in FILE
--help print this message
--no-create do not create output files
--quiet, --silent do not print `checking...' messages
--version print the version of autoconf that created configure
Directory and file names:
--prefix=PREFIX install architecture-independent files in PREFIX
[/usr/local]
--exec-prefix=EPREFIX install architecture-dependent files in EPREFIX
[same as prefix]
--bindir=DIR user executables in DIR [EPREFIX/bin]
--sbindir=DIR system admin executables in DIR [EPREFIX/sbin]
--libexecdir=DIR program executables in DIR [EPREFIX/libexec]
--datadir=DIR read-only architecture-independent data in DIR
[PREFIX/share]
--sysconfdir=DIR read-only single-machine data in DIR [PREFIX/etc]
--sharedstatedir=DIR modifiable architecture-independent data in DIR
[PREFIX/com]
--localstatedir=DIR modifiable single-machine data in DIR [PREFIX/var]
--libdir=DIR object code libraries in DIR [EPREFIX/lib]
--includedir=DIR C header files in DIR [PREFIX/include]
--oldincludedir=DIR C header files for non-gcc in DIR [/usr/include]
--infodir=DIR info documentation in DIR [PREFIX/info]
--mandir=DIR man documentation in DIR [PREFIX/man]
--srcdir=DIR find the sources in DIR [configure dir or ..]
--program-prefix=PREFIX prepend PREFIX to installed program names
--program-suffix=SUFFIX append SUFFIX to installed program names
--program-transform-name=PROGRAM
run sed PROGRAM on installed program names
Host type:
--build=BUILD configure for building on BUILD [BUILD=HOST]
--host=HOST configure for HOST [guessed]
--target=TARGET configure for TARGET [TARGET=HOST]
Features and packages:
--disable-FEATURE do not include FEATURE (same as --enable-FEATURE=no)
--enable-FEATURE[=ARG] include FEATURE [ARG=yes]
--with-PACKAGE[=ARG] use PACKAGE [ARG=yes]
--without-PACKAGE do not use PACKAGE (same as --with-PACKAGE=no)
--x-includes=DIR X include files are in DIR
--x-libraries=DIR X library files are in DIR
--enable and --with options recognized:
--with-warn enable compiler warnings
--with-ansi use ANSI C mode
--with-includes=DIR search include DIR for header files
--with-libraries=DIR search library DIR for libraries
--with-efence link with Electric Fence to find memory problems
--with-mysql include MySQL user accounts support
--with-pgsql include PostgreSQL user accounts support
--with-mssql include MSSQL user accounts support (requires FreeTDS includes/libs)
--with-sqlite3 include SQLite3 user accounts support
--with-odbc include ODBC user accounts support
--enable-poll Enable poll() instead of select(). Normally poll
is preferred over select, but configure knows poll
is broken on some platforms. If you think you are
smarter than the configure script, you may enable
poll with this option.
--disable-poll Disable the use of poll().
--enable-bnetd Enable building of bnetd server (default)
--disable-bnetd Disable building of bnetd server
--enable-d2cs Enable building of d2cs server (default)
--disable-d2cs Disable building of d2cs server
--enable-d2dbs Enable building of d2dbs server (default)
--disable-d2dbs Disable building of d2dbs server
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./configure
Humored hard.
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I'm sorry, but you failed. You missed "make" as well as editing the files for all the custom pieces that will be required. I see you found one of the commands through pure luck though. GJ on that at least. But to get it running, configure wont work ;) You need both ./configure and make or "./configure <options> ; make install" along with installing/compiling all the dependencies that ./configure will complain about. And thats all before you even get the thing to an executable form ;)
Which options are going to be required for a decent PVPGN server? The default configure wont do......... HINT: Begins with My name and ends with your brain size of a Squirrel :) Hah I crack me up lol.
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Lance i want to told you i see you as garbage now, they call you hacker and they try to tell at everyone you make server to steal their bank account and you still lick their balls, your look like retard by supporting this dumb server who spit on your face for ten years.
Please leave this game, you dint worth nothing anymore, porcelain balls.
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Its fine EQ, I'm over it. For over 8 years I lobbied to have iL replace Ldir + Burnt or people to just switch away from them (my projects for example). Anything to get rid of them. The dude is everything war2 needs. He is proficient in development, he is level headed, and somehow has the patience to speak to people such as Dellam (something I admit I'd never have the patience for) like they actually have something to contribute (which he doesnt, but he still gave the idiot a chance which is more than I'd do). If Ldir and burnt were still at the helm, ya I'd have major issues with this joint. I have always like iL.
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Its fine EQ, I'm over it. For over 8 years I lobbied to have iL replace Ldir + Burnt. The dude is everything war2 needs. He is proficient in development, he is level headed, and somehow has the patience to speak to people such as Dellam (something I admit I'd never have the patience for) like they actually have something to contribute (which he doesnt, but he still gave the idiot a chance which is more than I'd do). If Ldir and burnt were still at the helm, ya I'd have major issues with this joint. I have always like iL.
Pretty sad when one of our best hope is now a gay slave of this community.
Have fun playing with your 9 friends on this big succesful server.
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I dont think you realize this but I've helped iL behind closed doors more than you might think. I'm just not willing to vocalize what we've discussed for reasons best left unsaid. I've heard much of what he has planned, given suggestions, ideas, explained how things work, etc and I can tell you that what he has going on is very close to something I'd already produced anyway. It wont have everything I had at one point, but it's a start and definitely the right direction to be moving. He's not as fast at producing as I am, but it doesnt mean he's any less capable. He's just pretty busy I think. Just need more patience with his projects than mine thats all. And if he really needs development help (he hasnt needed it so far, he's doing a decent job), he knows I will do so and he's already told me several times that he'd accept things I contribute code wise.
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I dont think you realize this but I've helped iL behind closed doors more than you might think. I'm just not willing to vocalize what we've discussed for reasons best left unsaid. I've heard much of what he has planned, given suggestions, ideas, explained how things work, etc and I can tell you that what he has going on is very close to something I'd already produced anyway. It wont have everything I had at one point, but it's a start and definitely the right direction to be moving. He's not as fast at producing as I am, but it doesnt mean he's any less capable. He's just pretty busy I think. Just need more patience with his projects than mine thats all. And if he really needs development help (he hasnt needed it so far, he's doing a decent job), he knows I will do so and he's already told me several times that he'd accept things I contribute code wise.
Your a fucking idiot dude, what hes planning..... hes planning to give us an anti hack since 9 month and tupac did it in 2 weeks, seriously lance im so disapointed of you, i remember all the days all this stupid staff where talkshit about you and i was like the only one to protect your dumb ass.
Fuck off dude, go stream your newbe game while you still have some time before this stupid server die.
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Well thats your opinion and you're entitled to that. I just happen to like what iL is doing and for whatever reason you dont. I guess he's not fast enough for you which is understandable. If things dont pick up in speed, I'll kick in more than just ideas/suggestions/knowledge. But remember as a developer I am use to working on time tables of months, not days/hours. I'm giving iL the time he needs and if he needs help, I fully expect he would ask. He knows I'd help him out if he asked.
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Well thats your opinion and you're entitled to that. I just happen to like what iL is doing and for whatever reason you dont. I guess he's not fast enough for you which is understandable. If things dont pick up in speed, I'll kick in more than just ideas/suggestions/knowledge. But remember as a developer I am use to working on time tables of months, not days/hours. I'm giving iL the time he needs and if he needs help, I fully expect he would ask. He knows I'd help him out if he asked.
It's not even a question of being fast this dude just doing nothing... Last news and announcement on main website is from 5 month ago, he took 3 years to give us custom icon and he took 9 month to made an anti hack and it's not even finish yet, during this 9 month he let everyone hack and most of the half of pro player are gone.
And he also decide to kick tk for lightbringer.
You like what he does, shut up dude, there nothing to like here.
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Don't think he kicked TK...I asked him that day TK was demoted from Admin, he told me that TK asked to be removed.
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TK had quit admin months prior to his account actually being demoted.
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Don't think he kicked TK...I asked him that day TK was demoted from Admin, he told me that TK asked to be removed.
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Tk demoted himself 5 month ago, it was not an obligation for iL to make a post about ( tk get kicked by iL ) when it's not even true.
It was a useless post and absolutly no respect for everything tk done for this stupid server.
Your all fucking dumb and your all gonna die with this stupid server, believe me, ill give one more year to this server if we lucky.
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Don't think he kicked TK...I asked him that day TK was demoted from Admin, he told me that TK asked to be removed.
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Tk demoted himself 5 month ago, it was not an obligation for iL to make a post about ( tk get kicked by iL ) when it's not even true.
It was a useless post and absolutly no respect for everything tk done for this stupid server.
Your all fucking dumb and your all gonna die with this stupid server, believe me, ill give one more year to this server if we lucky.
Don't wish death on me you freakin mental case. With the amount of pills that you take for that underdeveloped squirrel brain of yours, your in no position to call anyone dumb.
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Don't think he kicked TK...I asked him that day TK was demoted from Admin, he told me that TK asked to be removed.
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When i said your gonna die with this server it mean evil ryu gonna die with this server, i dont talk about your real life, if you got one loser.
Tk demoted himself 5 month ago, it was not an obligation for iL to make a post about ( tk get kicked by iL ) when it's not even true.
It was a useless post and absolutly no respect for everything tk done for this stupid server.
Your all fucking dumb and your all gonna die with this stupid server, believe me, ill give one more year to this server if we lucky.
Don't wish death on me you freakin mental case. With the amount of pills that you take for that underdeveloped squirrel brain of yours, your in no position to call anyone dumb.
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When i said your gonna die with this server i mean the EVIL RYU, not your real life, if you even have one, loser.
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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Why i will blame Moustopher? She is paid to take cares of that forum and website? I mean the main admin is iL, if their partner cant do the job it became his own job.
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Don't think he kicked TK...I asked him that day TK was demoted from Admin, he told me that TK asked to be removed.
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When i said your gonna die with this server it mean evil ryu gonna die with this server, i dont talk about your real life, if you got one loser.
Tk demoted himself 5 month ago, it was not an obligation for iL to make a post about ( tk get kicked by iL ) when it's not even true.
It was a useless post and absolutly no respect for everything tk done for this stupid server.
Your all fucking dumb and your all gonna die with this stupid server, believe me, ill give one more year to this server if we lucky.
Don't wish death on me you freakin mental case. With the amount of pills that you take for that underdeveloped squirrel brain of yours, your in no position to call anyone dumb.
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When i said your gonna die with this server i mean the EVIL RYU, not your real life, if you even have one, loser.
Nope, been on this toilet since SC beta. Won't happen.
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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Why i will blame Moustopher? She is paid to take cares of that forum and website? I mean the main admin is iL, if their partner cant do the job it became his own job.
She is the only one who posts on the site. IL doesn't have anything to do with it.
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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Why i will blame Moustopher? She is paid to take cares of that forum and website? I mean the main admin is iL, if their partner cant do the job it became his own job.
She is the only one who posts on the site. IL doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Il have everything to do with everything, i repeat, he is the main admin, if someone cant do his job it's became his own job.
Nothing much to said.
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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Why i will blame Moustopher? She is paid to take cares of that forum and website? I mean the main admin is iL, if their partner cant do the job it became his own job.
She is the only one who posts on the site. IL doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Il have everything to do with everything, i repeat, he is the main admin, if someone cant do his job it's became his own job.
Nothing much to said.
His English is bad. Why would you want him posting on main page?
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I think mousey is the one who runs the website so blame her for that. Antihack was supposed to be out a long time ago and is long overdue. Tupac apparently already has a working one.
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Why i will blame Moustopher? She is paid to take cares of that forum and website? I mean the main admin is iL, if their partner cant do the job it became his own job.
She is the only one who posts on the site. IL doesn't have anything to do with it.
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Il have everything to do with everything, i repeat, he is the main admin, if someone cant do his job it's became his own job.
Nothing much to said.
His English is bad. Why would you want him posting on main page?
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Because it's better then nothing, if mousetopher is so useless he still find someone else, actually he dint dint do the job himself and he also dint cares if nobody does it.
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I was performing admin duties up until 5 days before I asked my admin to be removed. I didn't get kicked or whatever. I asked it to be removed, and it was within a week or so.
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I was performing admin duties up until 5 days before I asked my admin to be removed. I didn't get kicked or whatever. I asked it to be removed, and it was within a week or so.
Yes and iL make a thread about your bad behavior against lightbringer and the other staff or something like that for absolutly no reason.
Thats what i din't like.
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I didn't say anything about LB that wasn't true. Wouldn't have said it if I didn't think he was a poor choice for admin. If iL wants to get defensive about it that's up to him I guess
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Fuck off dude, go stream your newbe game while you still have some time before this stupid server die.
You mean the newbe game where you unallied him when he was playing in mid in a 3v3 and you had lust first and lost to him still? Lmfao
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That was rather amusing lmao. I should make that one a stream highlight lol. Wonder if it's still up :D
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So you think your better then me now lance? Where comming all that talktrash, did you ever beat me before?
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Im just pointing out that ol' winchester was right and that you did get pummeled in a game where you tried to be an ass. I dont think it's shittalk if it's about something factual. I think its merely stating facts :) The amusing part is that it was all caught on stream. I had 13 or so viewers at the time and my chat just lit up like wildfire when you got put back in your place ;) It was fun dude, I liked it actually even though it was an attempt to be a jerk.
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Im just pointing out that ol' winchester was right and that you did get pummeled in a game where you tried to be an ass. I dont think it's shittalk if it's about something factual. I think its merely stating facts :) The amusing part is that it was all caught on stream. I had 13 or so viewers at the time and my chat just lit up like wildfire when you got put back in your place ;) It was fun dude, I liked it actually even though it was an attempt to be a jerk.
You better talktrash about 3v3, we both know i 10-0 you straight up, your not even about to be a class B player.
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
I'd imagine F-
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
Com to server now you will see my class.
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the server ta not in and not and the connection that my ta rui poker tried in other pc and ta giving the same
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the server ta not in and not and the connection that my ta rui poker tried in other pc and ta giving the same
English please.
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You better talktrash about 3v3, we both know i 10-0 you straight up, your not even about to be a class B player.
You bsed your ally in a 3v3 when he was in mid and still lost to the ally when the enemys stood back mining 4/5/s5/3 in laughter. Don't use your "Its a 3v3" as an excuse rofl, Lance was in the middle and the enemy had to go through him to get to you rofl. If anything It would've been lance vs the world in that game!
Quick summary of the story: Equinox got owned when he was ahead of his ally that he bsed. His ally was in mid. It was 3v3.
Lance survived 3 people until you decided to try backstab him, you were clearly way ahead of him and then you stil got demolished by him lmao.
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
Com to server now you will see my class.
Class: Hacker & Gambling Addict
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the server ta not in and not and the connection that my ta rui poker tried in other pc and ta giving the same
English please.
LOL
Your actually telling someone else that their English sucks?!
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
Com to server now you will see my class.
Class: Hacker & Gambling Addict
Class: Hacker & Gambling Addict in Debt*
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This reminds me of when war2custom was being floated. People didn't want to trust lance cuz of his recent past. Now we've repeated history, no one wants tk to get it because of how "involved" Equinox is in his support. Equinox is this era's {lance}, minus the hacking, programming, and English. Even more amusing is that more people would trust lance to admin/help them over Equinox in his current meltdown mode. I think the ultimate joke would be to grant lance admin for the sole purpose of banning Equinox. W2 is on its last legs so we might as well have some huge drama entertainment.
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You crack me up. If thats the case, then what class would that make you since you lost?
Com to server now you will see my class.
Class: Hacker & Gambling Addict
Class: Hacker & Gambling Addict in Debt*
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You're right. I stand corrected.
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This reminds me of when war2custom was being floated. People didn't want to trust lance cuz of his recent past. Now we've repeated history, no one wants tk to get it because of how "involved" Equinox is in his support. Equinox is this era's {lance}, minus the hacking, programming, and English. Even more amusing is that more people would trust lance to admin/help them over Equinox in his current meltdown mode. I think the ultimate joke would be to grant lance admin for the sole purpose of banning Equinox. W2 is on its last legs so we might as well have some huge drama entertainment.
I wouldn't compare equinox to lance, haha.
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Don't you people have better things to do, lol? wc2 is a great game, but there's more to life than trying to micromanage a tiny community of aging gamers!
This is the exact attitude that has lead to the fall of this game. If you don't have time, GTFO and let others who do take charge. Why do you think the community is so small? Its because none of the admins really give a shit or are too busy to spend the time needed for the success of the game, yet at the same time they stand in the way of people who do have the time. The people who's lives are war2, should be the ones in charge. Not the people who log on the forums once a week to criticize the people who are trying to help.
There are no excuses for the small population PERIOD. There are tons of brood war servers with hundreds to thousands of players on at all times, several war3 servers with thousands. We are the ONLY war2 server, there should be hundreds of players on at all times. The only people to blame are the ones in charge.
Who are these "others" who will supposedly take charge? The people running the server now are the only ones who have demonstrated that they're willing to make any kind of meaningful contribution to it. As far as I can tell, the other candidates ARE the people who log onto the forums to criticize the people who are trying to help (though far more often than once a week, unfortunately).
If iL and company didn't host a FREE server for people to play on, FOR FREE, there would BE NO MORE WARCRAFT 2. Do you guys understand that? ru can't be killing Warcraft 2 if the only reason there IS still a Warcraft 2 is ru. What would we be doing if there wasn't, playing on East with muted cd keys and sending Blizzard hate mail? I hadn't played wc2 in years, I thought it was over until I found this place in 2011. The sense of entitlement from all the haters is ludicrous, as if by paying out of pocket for a server that people can use for free and spending his own time upgrading and improving it, and doing that for years, iL somehow owes any wc2 player anything.
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Who are these "others" who will supposedly take charge? The people running the server now are the only ones who have demonstrated that they're willing to make any kind of meaningful contribution to it. As far as I can tell, the other candidates ARE the people who log onto the forums to criticize the people who are trying to help (though far more often than once a week, unfortunately).
If iL and company didn't host a FREE server for people to play on, FOR FREE, there would BE NO MORE WARCRAFT 2. Do you guys understand that? ru can't be killing Warcraft 2 if the only reason there IS still a Warcraft 2 is ru. What would we be doing if there wasn't, playing on East with muted cd keys and sending Blizzard hate mail? I hadn't played wc2 in years, I thought it was over until I found this place in 2011. The sense of entitlement from all the haters is ludicrous, as if by paying out of pocket for a server that people can use for free and spending his own time upgrading and improving it, and doing that for years, iL somehow owes any wc2 player anything.
Nobody is complaining about iL, he does a very good job but he is basically a 1 man army. What people are complaining about is guys like foonat/LB who log on once a year and do absolutely nothing but are somehow admins? I cannot comment on what goes on in game as I never log on but from what I can see from the forums and reading other people's posts, these two in particular are never on and/or never do anything. Name one thing beneficial that either of them has done in the last 3 months?
Meanwhile we have guys like EQ/yamon/tupac who have loads of time/dedication to the game and can actually do stuff that will help the game (programes/codes, leagues, helping new players, etc). I am not even saying you should remove them, you can keep them around for whatever purpose they may serve, but if they aren't active, more admins are needed but you and all the other admins seem vehemently opposed to allowing ANY new admins/mods, I can only speculate for fear/insecurity that they will outshine you and force you to actually have to do something.
Also, if RU didn't exist, someone else would have made a server and other people have created servers in the past WWG, lance.
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Who are these "others" who will supposedly take charge? The people running the server now are the only ones who have demonstrated that they're willing to make any kind of meaningful contribution to it. As far as I can tell, the other candidates ARE the people who log onto the forums to criticize the people who are trying to help (though far more often than once a week, unfortunately).
If iL and company didn't host a FREE server for people to play on, FOR FREE, there would BE NO MORE WARCRAFT 2. Do you guys understand that? ru can't be killing Warcraft 2 if the only reason there IS still a Warcraft 2 is ru. What would we be doing if there wasn't, playing on East with muted cd keys and sending Blizzard hate mail? I hadn't played wc2 in years, I thought it was over until I found this place in 2011. The sense of entitlement from all the haters is ludicrous, as if by paying out of pocket for a server that people can use for free and spending his own time upgrading and improving it, and doing that for years, iL somehow owes any wc2 player anything.
Nobody is complaining about iL, he does a very good job but he is basically a 1 man army. What people are complaining about is guys like foonat/LB who log on once a year and do absolutely nothing but are somehow admins? I cannot comment on what goes on in game as I never log on but from what I can see from the forums and reading other people's posts, these two in particular are never on and/or never do anything. Name one thing beneficial that either of them has done in the last 3 months?
Meanwhile we have guys like EQ/yamon/tupac who have loads of time/dedication to the game and can actually do stuff that will help the game (programes/codes, leagues, helping new players, etc). I am not even saying you should remove them, you can keep them around for whatever purpose they may serve, but if they aren't active, more admins are needed but you and all the other admins seem vehemently opposed to allowing ANY new admins/mods, I can only speculate for fear/insecurity that they will outshine you and force you to actually have to do something.
Also, if RU didn't exist, someone else would have made a server and other people have created servers in the past WWG, lance.
it's like every time you present them with an argument and the concerns of the community, they turn it into boosting egos, or take away from what everyone has already done, with their heads stuck up their ass
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ldir/burnt/blid/il etc are a proven thing, why risk it with an unsure change in tk
tk was caught outing my smurfs WHILE he was admin, can't be trusted and shouldn't be an admin let alone owner.
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ldir/burnt/blid/il etc are a proven thing, why risk it with an unsure change in tk
tk was caught outing my smurfs WHILE he was admin, can't be trusted and shouldn't be an admin let alone owner.
i don't know how that clown ever even got admin
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I think I told mystical one of ur smurf names one time when I was drunk.. that's the only time anything like that has happened.. boo hoo.. and the smurf name of ur was one I knew without "cheating" and looking it up
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I logged on yesterday and yam on and mouse were the only non-idle people in channel. I was surfing asking for a game .. yam on dodged and mouse top her went afk after I asked what map.. it's like the people in charge or people who want to be in charge really only have an interest in being in charge instead of playing the game.. I Coulda been a new player for all yamon knew .. and if I was, I probably would have never returned to the server because too many people don't realize sometimes u gotta play people, maps, or resources u don't wanna play to keep games going and people in the community around.
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it's not fair to expect people play with every new player/smurf that logs onto the server and asks for a game in chat, although it would be nice. not really fair to draw sweeping conclusions about those two people because they didn't want to play with you at that particular time either
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you did a lot of stuff as admin without consulting others, including major things like deleting all ipbans. (to which il simply responded, "why not, lets try your way"). i was rereading the thread from when you tried to delete equinox and his post history. i think you had valid points when asking why you were ranked second class to mouse in terms of power on these forums. you were right that as the most active admin on the server, you deserved to have full rights on here as well (imo).
but i also think doing/attempting to do major things like those without asking was not really being a team player. if me and il and mouse all think, nah, it's probably not a good idea to delete a persons entire post history, it will leave huge holes in the forum and isnt good, and you want to do it anyway, that's bad teamwork. you need to have the right to make your own judgments but when everyone disagrees with you, you also need to be willing to accept that. or you can quit, that's your right too. which you did, so okay. but i think the size of the grudge you've been carrying around since then is not really merited.
your vision for the server is good, but you wouldn't be able to do all that iL can do if you "bought the server." as such the best way to handle things would have been, imo, to patiently hash the issues out with the other people on the team. make your complaints known, but also respect that about some things, other people may have differing opinions, and that if you are in the minority, maybe it's something to back down on.
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Why does it matter if they are smurf or not? If they are there to play war2 they are a part of the community. If they leave because nobody will play that is the communities fault. Anyone who claims to desire an active community should be doing everything they can to make sure people who want to play actually get a chance to play... that's the problem, too many people cherry picking what games they play andvwhovthey play with nearly 100% of the time.. a new player is doomed frombthevstart
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Why does it matter if they are smurf or not? If they are there to play war2 they are a part of the community. If they leave because nobody will play that is the communities fault. Anyone who claims to desire an active community should be doing everything they can to make sure people who want to play actually get a chance to play... that's the problem, too many people cherry picking what games they play andvwhovthey play with nearly 100% of the time.. a new player is doomed frombthevstart
well, what if it wasn't a smurf? what if it was paperboy in the chat asking yamon or mouse to play... but they didn't really want to play at that time? i don't think just being logged in and looking at the chat means you have to play whoever is asking.
it's bad to boot or ignore people without games on their record who are new or returning. but that doesn't mean everyone has a duty to play everyone all the time
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The blid is wise.
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The blid is wise.
No, its just common sense and people have been saying that same thing over and over for years on the forums.