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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Sentinel1 on December 24, 2016, 04:06:14 PM
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Best to "worst."
I'll provide the names by giving my order.
1. Shotgun
2. u8t3io3p
3. Startale
4. Lone
5. Jesk
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1. Shotgun
2. Jesk
3. U8tio3p
4. Lone
5. Startale
In gow.
I think szwagier would rank 1 in variety of maps as he has practiced a ton on them.
Lone may be getting stronger now, i noticed he has won a lot against Shotgun recently not sure the spots.
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1. u8t3io3p
2. Shotgun
3. Lone
4. Startale
5. Jesk
Be advised I rated these players based on all maps not just Gow.
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Now i am not playing 1x1 cause i am bored so i can be 5th. I dont care, i will start maybe in feb since i got fun playing campaign
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U8
SG
Lone (that's more percieved potential.. right now probably = to jesk)
Jesk
St
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1. Tks need for attention
2. Masta's need for drama
3. Sentinel's need for controversy
4. Level of intertest for Equinox's stream
5. Xurnts randon knowledge of players
6. Szwaigers skill
7. Shotguns skill
8. Jesks skill
9. St, lone skill
10. Quality of player's stream, no music no bs just games
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11. Benny's need to mine personal information about everyone he comes in contact with :>
music is definitely not a negative aspect of streams imo! I wish all war2 streamers had war2 soundtrack playing at an appropriately unobtrusive volume during their streams. At the very least it mitigates that horrible void of silence during the period between start of game & finished construction of first farm...
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never really understood this, people prefer random music on streams, videos etc... cant you start your own music? thats just stupid to me. no matter what music you choose, you cant please everyone and have to listen to dumb-ass complaints about the LACK of music or the TYPE of music. blyat sooka
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I do not need attention -,- ... I'm just very passionate about war2 and most of the things being discussed
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I do not need attention -,- ... I'm just very passionate about war2 and most of the things being discussed
You have a lot more influence than you realize TK. The videos you posted on youtube are the best learning tools out there for beginners. I was hopelessly bad at gow and wouldn't even bother learning it if I haven't seen your commentary.
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I do not need attention -,- ... I'm just very passionate about war2 and most of the things being discussed
You have a lot more influence than you realize TK. The videos you posted on youtube are the best learning tools out there for beginners. I was hopelessly bad at gow and wouldn't even bother learning it if I haven't seen your commentary.
I agree. If you were to do a rehash of your training vids from every position I believe it would be a huge contribution.
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i deeply regret to inform you that i will no longer be making large contributions to the warcraft2 community until iL reinstates my admin .. which means no more large contributions
/drunk speech over
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il probably would he seems nice and you seem stable. is it beer 30 already ???
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il probably would he seems nice and you seem stable. is it beer 30 already ???
Unlikely to say the least.
Tk willing gave up his admin position and upon leaving he pissed off the admin team.
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1095.msg16779.html#msg16779 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1095.msg16779.html#msg16779)
Anything that TK does for war2 will have to be solely because he likes this game and want to see it grow. I can almost assure tk that he will probably never be rewarded for his actions with some type of mod position. But don't worry TK, if you really care about this game you don't need any type of mod position to work with the community in order to see it thrive.
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music is definitely not a negative aspect of streams imo! I wish all war2 streamers had war2 soundtrack playing at an appropriately unobtrusive volume during their streams. At the very least it mitigates that horrible void of silence during the period between start of game & finished construction of first farm...
How the hell do i get music on the combat edition? I would love to have that but didnt know it was possible.
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until iL reinstates my admin
but didnt you fucking resign? you dumb bro
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music is definitely not a negative aspect of streams imo! I wish all war2 streamers had war2 soundtrack playing at an appropriately unobtrusive volume during their streams. At the very least it mitigates that horrible void of silence during the period between start of game & finished construction of first farm...
How the hell do i get music on the combat edition? I would love to have that but didnt know it was possible.
Put your w2 cd into drive and open "warcraft II BNE"
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Put your w2 cd into drive and open "warcraft II BNE"
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But then i need to play with the bne edition and not the combat edition, right?
Installed the bne few month ago and after that i needed reinstall the combat edition and make all those modifications again.
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no why, just open it where u got combat installed, it ask u about cd when u havent got installed BNET version
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1. u8t3io3p / Jesk ( havent seen szwa playin lately so im not sure but jesk n szwa r sharing the #1 in this case imo)
2. shotgun
3. startale
4. hax lone hax , im quite sure he hax. so is many respected old players in the server.
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I was drunk when I wrote that but yeah IL isn't going to do anything and neither am i. I'm not going to put time and money into something that's been slowly dying.. that's a really bad investment and makes no sense to me. Once war2 dies I'll start a server and rebuild it..
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well right now its on the ^ idk how long its will last.
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I'll wait till people are all ready to make the switch. . Others have tried starting thier own server but the community wasn't ready to make the switch. Trust issues with the people starting the new servers was a big factor tho
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music is definitely not a negative aspect of streams imo! I wish all war2 streamers had war2 soundtrack playing at an appropriately unobtrusive volume during their streams. At the very least it mitigates that horrible void of silence during the period between start of game & finished construction of first farm...
How the hell do i get music on the combat edition? I would love to have that but didnt know it was possible.
put in your cd or torrent war2bne iso & mount on virtual drive then copy/paste install.exe into war2combat folder
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tk i really enjoyed your gow training videos as a new player, i was anxious to see more being posted about other strats,
the basics are very good to learn but this game is about adapting to what your opponent does
it would be interesting to see more advanced videos like chopout rush, ogre rush, towering from 6, playing from middle etc
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tk i really enjoyed your gow training videos as a new player, i was anxious to see more being posted about other strats,
the basics are very good to learn but this game is about adapting to what your opponent does
it would be interesting to see more advanced videos like chopout rush, ogre rush, towering from 6, playing from middle etc
Would anyone else like to volunteer to do an updated Gow training series? Preferably a tier 1-2 player.
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The only person that comes to mind is greenplastic/00joe. He's the only one that has both the fundamentals down and is articulate enough to convey them to new players.
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Wouldn't take a tier 1 or 2 player to communicate fundamentals, just takes intelligence in the sense of knowing how to organize the ideas and some basic knowledge of video editing to assist presenting them. I could do the former but no idea on the latter.
Video 1 would be showing how to build halls. "You want to build your hall as close to the gold mine as possible while maximizing the flow of gold - you don't want your peons to get stuck or be bumping into each other." *Cut to examples of bad halls, explaining what is happening. One where it's too far away, one where the flow is impeded (bad placement in 11, for example), one where you put buildings in the gold flow.* Then show the standard hall placement for each spot while simultaneously touching on the spot numbers.
Video 2 would maybe be a good time to go over popout order and the concept of wall ins. Show a barracks walling in 11 by itself, show it getting attacked and point out how the peons are able to repair it safely. After that show how grunts pop out of it, followed by some more advanced popout order stuff (build a smith behind the barracks, pointing out how it affects the popout to outside the base), finally followed by a tower below 9's mine which combines both principles simultaneously - the peon pops out to the left and is now safe to repair.
Video 3 would show how to do a basic rush. Start out by touching on the fact that the key to a rush is having gold, and you should never stop making peons throughout the game, *cut to a brief 20 second clip of making a peon, doing stuff while it builds, immediately making another one, etc, pointing out what you're doing ("See, as soon as it's done I immediately make another, this needs to become a habit for you"*. Then show a basic build order of farm rax farm smith, then tell them the same principle of never stop making a peon applies to not stopping making grunts. Tell them to upgrade first level shields as soon as they can, first level swords as soon as they can.
Video 4 would continue with the basics of grunts/rushing, focusing on two things. The first would be the principles behind retreating. "During the early game, every grunt is important and can be the difference between winning and losing." Show a clip of a player losing 2 grunts to 4, then show a clip of that same situation but with the two grunts retreating, joining back up with five grunts, killing the four grunts, then running into the 4-grunt base and winning. The second thing would be chokes. Would be best to show a 3v1 choke to make the advantage more visually apparent, followed by the standard 4v3 choke at 2. Could potentially follow this up by going into flanking, where a group of your grunts attacks a straight line of grunts on the end, which essentially combines the principles of microing grunt movement and number advantages.
Video 5 could start out being all about tower battles followed by avoiding standard lethal weaknesses to towers at the applicable bases (behind 4, 5, 6). Basically a guide to not dying in the first two minutes of the game. I think this would be a good time to go into it, as two of the three most important fundamentals have already been covered (peon creation, popout order). The other fundamental, which would be taught now, would just be how towers work - how far they shoot, counting the spots to create repairable towers, etc.
Well I'm getting lazier with each post so I'll stop for now but I think that would be a fine way to organize the first five videos if anyone had the motivation.
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Those are good ideas Sentinel. Adding the edits for videos 1 and 4 showing proper halls and bad halls & its effects is a good idea specially. Since most new players don't see the difference. Could then go on to say things like with the bad hall it would be like having 7 peons on gold instead of 11 due to the mining speed etc.
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In my opinion u will make "zombies"and only gow,strategy at axolotl is enough
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Only map people play on the server is "gow" unfortunately. And its better to have a bunch of zombies who at least know how to build and make units then have a bunch of newbs, that make their hall 6 spaces away.
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I play a lot of maps.. the reason my vids focused on gow was because it is the most played map, but also because I believe its the most diverse map/speed. The skills it takes to learn gow translate easier to other maps.. rather than learning something like archers, gseps, hsc, kotr.. and trying to then learn gow.
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they are diffrent, for example i played vs alf at "a continent to explore" i rushed with 2 rax( i dont remember when i made 2 rax, mby 12x2 but skip 2 and make more) i made stronghold without mill (omg noob no mill 1111111!!!!ONEONE11) i make lvl 5 at hall (also dont remember when i made it with hall 12x2 only)
if i rush lvl 3 alf would crush me easy
if i made mill alf would crush me easy
if i rush 1 rax alf would crush me easy
etc
U need only basic strategy from axotolt form, if some1 understand this strategy he will be fine
Also u need know a bit map, what can do your opponent, if he cant close base he will rush 100% but u need scout, is it 1 rax rush or 2 or mby he will sit and tech for orges, if he can close base, maybe he went 2 hall/power/dual, he close base and made only troll, mby fake power and he is going rush
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That's all true but this would be a guide to get a player at least able to participate in a game. They'll never come close to understanding the intricacies of what you just posted if they can't at least survive the first two minutes of the game, or cant contribute enough to do a basic rush - because they'll just keep getting booted. These videos would basically just be giving them the tools to be able to learn further.
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Yeah.. the series I have planned is going to be like a 3-4 part series.. introduction explaining basic mechanics, beginner going going over basic builds/strategies, intermediate which will go over some more complex strats and builds, then advanced... would probably be well over 50 videos the way I intend to do it.. im just not going to do it for a community of 50 active players and declining. Its a lot of work just putting 1 video together... if one of u are down to do it more power to you. I'll wait until I feel confident the investment is worth it personally.
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Episode 4: 30k gold/18 wood resource management
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U need only basic strategy from axotolt form, if some1 understand this strategy he will be fine
agree. making nice user-friendly videos that cover the same material wouldn't hurt though, same info in a new medium to expose it to more people
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U need only basic strategy from axotolt form, if some1 understand this strategy he will be fine
agree. making nice user-friendly videos that cover the same material wouldn't hurt though, same info in a new medium to expose it to more people
Yamon, ingognito, or burnt. Would any of you be interested in makeing 5-6 vids summarizing axeolt's training videos?
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Why 5-6? It's a lot of material to cover, I've always thought bite-sized vids would be more effective
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Why 5-6? It's a lot of material to cover, I've always thought bite-sized vids would be more effective
I want to see full videos, Xurnt is our man. He is the face of war2 at this point.
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Yamon, ingognito, or burnt. Would any of you be interested in makeing 5-6 vids summarizing axeolt's training videos?
you are so clueless.
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Yamon, ingognito, or burnt. Would any of you be interested in makeing 5-6 vids summarizing axeolt's training videos?
you are so clueless.
Would you like to make a 4-5 part vid series azazel.
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short videos such as unit summaries would be good as well, part 1 peons would be about peon production, res management, offense towering, defending with peons etc
part 2 grunts/footies would be about early game rushes, when to stop making grunts, why lvl 3 grunts are most economical etc
i think there is a vast amount of content that new players have trouble understanding
if there was more content on war2 this server would have hundreds of players, it's a timeless classic
2017 let's make war2 great again
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how too rush
https://www.facebook.com/war2combat/videos/682674971908558/ (https://www.facebook.com/war2combat/videos/682674971908558/)
u got video u can do something with it
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I would have to train myself before being able to do that
But if anyone wants to upload them to the youtube.com/war2combat they can.
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Best to "worst."
I'll provide the names by giving my order.
1. Dugs[anz]
2. Shotgun
3. u8t3io3p
4. Startale
5. Lone
6. Jesk
agreed.
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They only play 1 map so i do not rate them at all :)
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you spelled "multiple" wrong.
all of them can (and occasionally do) play other maps .. particularly classic maps. some even play some BNE and customs on occasion.
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Honestly i have never seen them play any other maps ,Exept u8 and yamon in their master challenge aside that is only gow and only gow
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lately we have been playing lots of different classic/bne maps and it has been quite of fun. many of us old skoolers actually like to play diff maps (not including customs since they arent real war2 and have nuttin to do with strategy ) but ppl r just too lazy and pick the easy and quick gow. there is only a few ppl who are against differents maps and those peeps are in small minority.
maybe just trashtalking multiretarded newbies like "warbandit" arent invited in those games.
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lately we have been playing lots of different classic/bne maps and it has been quite of fun. many of us old skoolers actually like to play diff maps (not including customs since they arent real war2 and have nuttin to do with strategy ) but ppl r just too lazy and pick the easy and quick gow. there is only a few ppl who are against differents maps and those peeps are in small minority.
maybe just trashtalking multiretarded newbies like "warbandit" arent invited in those games.
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he can only talk
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thing is, he's never been anything else than trash so idk where his ego came from. he sucked my dick well in a chop thread but then completely lost it after i refused to pard him
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lately we have been playing lots of different classic/bne maps and it has been quite of fun. many of us old skoolers actually like to play diff maps (not including customs since they arent real war2 and have nuttin to do with strategy ) but ppl r just too lazy and pick the easy and quick gow. there is only a few ppl who are against differents maps and those peeps are in small minority.
maybe just trashtalking multiretarded newbies like "warbandit" arent invited in those games.
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he can only talk
Spouse talking is not all i do i actually ask for games,,,,,,,,you all talk big games but when one challenges (whoms not in your club) you abuse them?
Kinda childish,and you wonder why gow players aint respected by many :)
JUst gonna leave this here and confirmed my validation ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, k thanks imput useless comments here,
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bandit the reason you're not in the "club" is because you have lost every single game (or series) against a decently skilled player .. 95% of your ladder wins are against complete newbs. Further more, about 50% of your losses are against complete newbs.
Then you're a confirmed hacker who has been caught at least 2 separate times
Then you talk trash for attention, instead of improve your skill and get attention simply by improving.
you're simply not at the competitive level you need to be at for anyone to take a master tag challenge seriously. Get to that level, then make the challenge.
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Note .Don't bitch to me about no respect if you cant show it, If you got a young gun trying to improve and actually play better players and you sit there being keyboard warriors, Don't demand any positive replies in return,
Use your brains stupid, You have one do you not?
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bandit the reason you're not in the "club" is because you have lost every single game (or series) against a decently skilled player .. 95% of your ladder wins are against complete newbs. Further more, about 50% of your losses are against complete newbs.
Then you're a confirmed hacker who has been caught at least 2 separate times
Then you talk trash for attention, instead of improve your skill and get attention simply by improving.
you're simply not at the competitive level you need to be at for anyone to take a master tag challenge seriously. Get to that level, then make the challenge.
SO by your pointless opinion , improve by playing less quality players,,,,,,,only to waste my time asking to play better quality and watch them run there mouth much like you do?
Yes great logic by flog tk :)
And they wonder why they cant grow the server,To many toxic wasted twats killing it.
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play top level players all day long ... be respectful, challenge players.. but you're not going to have an opportunity to challenge them for their tag until you improve your skill and gain some amount of respect from them.
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if they wont play you under warbandit, maybe try smurfing and asking for 1v1's ... "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." .. say "gg" after the games whether you win or lose... and build some respect in the community. you will have no problem at all getting games from good players if they enjoy playing with you.
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if they wont play you under warbandit, maybe try smurfing and asking for 1v1's ... "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." .. say "gg" after the games whether you win or lose... and build some respect in the community. you will have no problem at all getting games from good players if they enjoy playing with you.
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So you suggest playing on a smurf just to get a game ?
Only one problem with that champion,
Aside shotgun and a selected few chop players,I'm the only Australian player on server,
Which would indicate an auto ban(thanks to dellams past history of ruining it for any other aus players)?
Note not starting an argument just suggestion a common problem i have come across.
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So you suggest playing on a smurf just to get a game ?
Only one problem with that champion,
Aside shotgun and a selected few chop players,I'm the only Australian player on server,
Which would indicate an auto ban(thanks to dellams past history of ruining it for any other aus players)?
Note not starting an argument just suggestion a common problem i have come across.
Not true there have been increasingly more ausie players on the server. So being under a unknown ausie name shouldn't constitute an auto ban.
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So you suggest playing on a smurf just to get a game ?
Only one problem with that champion,
Aside shotgun and a selected few chop players,I'm the only Australian player on server,
Which would indicate an auto ban(thanks to dellams past history of ruining it for any other aus players)?
Note not starting an argument just suggestion a common problem i have come across.
Not true there have been increasingly more ausie players on the server. So being under a unknown ausie name shouldn't constitute an auto ban.
I stand corrected.
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So you suggest playing on a smurf just to get a game ?
Only one problem with that champion,
Aside shotgun and a selected few chop players,I'm the only Australian player on server,
Which would indicate an auto ban(thanks to dellams past history of ruining it for any other aus players)?
Note not starting an argument just suggestion a common problem i have come across.
Not true there have been increasingly more ausie players on the server. So being under a unknown ausie name shouldn't constitute an auto ban.
I stand corrected.
u can change your flag to USA
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So change your location to USA.
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Dugs does it when he smurfs pretty sure.
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i have never smurfed nor have a i lied in my life. not really sure what you're talking about?
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warbandit, encourage those that think you're dellam to view the antihack page (click on the 1st banner up the top of this page that has users/bots/games) to show your AH status. dellam is tagged with the UNKNOWN status.
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Actually dellam always tells people to check the antihack page too. It says UNKNOWN once he starts hacking but he'll close out and come back in and get it to say AH and then tell everyone to check it. Then if he gets to stay he'll turn the hack back on.
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i have never smurfed nor have a i lied in my life. not really sure what you're talking about?
i mean .. um... the other aussy (NZ) guy. not dugs tho no.. not him.
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Actually dellam always tells people to check the antihack page too. It says UNKNOWN once he starts hacking but he'll close out and come back in and get it to say AH and then tell everyone to check it. Then if he gets to stay he'll turn the hack back on.
that's persistent... i'll check on him as i can log on at nights for a short while.. keep him at bay
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Actually dellam always tells people to check the antihack page too. It says UNKNOWN once he starts hacking but he'll close out and come back in and get it to say AH and then tell everyone to check it. Then if he gets to stay he'll turn the hack back on.
Why doesn't the AH page have a notifier for HACK or Unknown statuses like the Game Monitor page does for Maps?
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What do you mean?
http://server.war2.ru/status/?old=true (http://server.war2.ru/status/?old=true) This link will show "AH" in green for clean people, "UNKNOWN" in grey for someone who's got something funny going on, and "HACK" in red for people that are definitely hacking. What do you mean about notifier for maps?
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he means a sound u fk tard
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maps make a sound? What
I clearly dont know what this is about and just saying "fuck you" doesnt clear it up
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The 'Games Monitor' option on the website will allow you to get a ding sound through the browser whenever a map you select has a game created.
Wonder if same concept can be applied to AH; Anytime I'm in a game and hear a certain designated sound I know it's either Unknown or HACK
It's actually a shipyard game sound.
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Hmm finally found it:
http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/ (http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/)
Wow I had no idea this existed.
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I love it. I kicked the dog the other day because I was waiting for a game to start and sprinted to the computer when I heard it. The dog got excited and ran in front of me. He's dead. We won the 2v2 though.
Anyways... the feature would be helpful for awareness of status changes.