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Title: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 06:53:16 AM
Post your edited or non edited PAUSED ss in PCX here and I will tell you whether or not it was edited. This is so easy and yet people are still discussing about it...

Let's see what you can post. If I am right, just tell so so I will prove in the end how to detect those edited sses...
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 06:55:45 AM
worst idea ever, your just forming hackers.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 07:16:31 AM
worst idea ever, your just forming hackers.
I am just trying to prove that it is easy to DETECT edited out sses. SSes should be sent immediately. Now, you are being give n the time to edit one and I can show that edited sses can be discovered easily, you say I am forming hackers?

I am just saying that your BS idea of closing clients is not the solution and that editing out gold mines is more than child's play to detect.

You think I am forming hackers? Do you know what forming means? It fucking means imparting them with knowledge to perform editing sses... Get a fucking clue. Post and edited or non edited ss within 5 minutes if it is so easy....Let's see if I can detect it....
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 07:19:11 AM
worst idea ever, your just forming hackers.
I am just trying to prove that it is easy to DETECT edited out sses. SSes should be sent immediately. Now, you are being give n the time to edit one and I can show that edited sses can be discovered easily, you say I am forming hackers?

I am just saying that your BS idea of closing clients is not the solution and that editing out gold mines is more than child's play to detect.

You think I am forming hackers? Do you know what forming means? It fucking means imparting them with knowledge to perform editing sses... Get a fucking clue. Post and edited or non edited ss within 5 minutes if it is so easy....Let's see if I can detect it....

Your just trying to make them the best they can, how the fuck they will edited hacked ss if they dont even suppose to have hacks, your not only forming them in edited ss but your also telling them to get hacks if they dont already have it. Thats the worst idea ever.

Thats why smurf like you are not suppose to have any power in this game.

Please someone delete this thread.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 07:23:13 AM
Dude you are fucking delusional. It is YOU who has explained people how to hack on the client. Not ME. You have explained how people can hack uncaught on another client.
I am only telling people to pause a SS and EDIT it. No need to DOWNLOAD  hacks to edit a paused SS. The challenge is to post an edited SS and see if I can call it out.
Obviously, if you try with a hack, its not a problem. You did not have any problems testing hacks out, nor did claw or any other players. So why should it be a problem now?
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 07:29:03 AM
Dude you are fucking delusional. It is YOU who has explained people how to hack on the client. Not ME. You have explained how people can hack uncaught on another client.
I am only telling people to pause a SS and EDIT it. No need to DOWNLOAD  hacks to edit a paused SS. The challenge is to post an edited SS and see if I can call it out.
Obviously, if you try with a hack, its not a problem. You did not have any problems testing hacks out, nor did claw or any other players. So why should it be a problem now?

No i open their eyes and make them realiase it's true, because nobody will know this kind of thing really happen and they will keep send and ask screen shot like retards..

And hacker will keep to call peoples newbe when they hacks.. I fucking tell the truth because its been ten years and it's time to do something.

Im fucking sorry if your in the wrong side, but i think this game is corrupted, it need to be clean, and you look like someone who need to be clean.

Editing challenge, fucking please dude.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 07:33:00 AM
I am only proposing this to show that EVERY edited ss can be detected and I will offer my insight to the relevant people once I show that I detect all the edited sses.
How is this promoting hacking? This is like saying "Beware, however good you edit the ss, there is a way to know this" I will tell il/other admins how this works...
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 07:36:31 AM
I am only proposing this to show that EVERY edited ss can be detected and I will offer my insight to the relevant people once I show that I detect all the edited sses.
How is this promoting hacking? This is like saying "Beware, however good you edit the ss, there is a way to know this" I will tell il/other admins how this works...

What is the link between editing ss and warcraft II?? Hiding hacking, praticing to editing ss in war2 even if it's for fun make them increase their ability to editing ss..

And whats the only link between editing ss and warcraft II again??? Hiding hacking!

Your idea is wrong, just go in the anti gold mine thread and go tell to claw if his retard screen shot or edited or no, he want to proof himself and you want to proof if ss or edited or no.

Go tell him what you think we already know he create map hack anyway, not a big lose.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 07:37:46 AM
Worst edit ever by claw. I will not even comment on why. Took 0.1 seconds literally to detect this fake....
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 07:38:08 AM
Worst edit ever by claw. I will not even comment on why. Took 0.1 seconds literally to detect this fake....

lol go tell him if i am right or if he is wrong.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: iL on March 20, 2015, 09:01:33 AM
worst idea ever, your just forming hackers.
I definitely agree we should not discover any edit-detecting methods to community.
I generally agree with you we should not let cheaters improve their ss-editing skill.

But i think that could be useful for community to let them know ss is quite safe way to catch cheaters, so several examples (no more) could be a good illustration that cheaters will not go uncaught.

Post your edited or non edited PAUSED ss in PCX here and I will tell you whether or not it was edited. This is so easy and yet people are still discussing about it...
I personally think it's quite easy to quickly edit SS and not be caught. Easy if you know some small secrets. But these secrets should never be shared to community.

What about current ss.war2.ru? Can you inspect SS on it to prove if they are real or not?
Could be a good way to catch cheaters because edited PCX definitely means cheating.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 20, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
Not really a secret....anyone who has half a brain and has played with MS Paint can figure it out. I wouldn't assume people are that stupid lol...

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Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 09:35:31 AM
How about you post 2 ss il.  One clean and one edited....  I just want to prove a point. Now don't take one hour to edit an ss.  Just do a normal edit as sses posting should be immediately after the game....
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 09:37:29 AM
There was a thread where someone posted an edited ss.  I can't find it. Can you find out for me? I already looked at some on ss..war2.ru.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 20, 2015, 09:43:38 AM
How about you post 2 ss il.  One clean and one edited....  I just want to prove a point. Now don't take one hour to edit an ss.  Just do a normal edit as sses posting should be immediately after the game....
i have no idea how you think youre gonna pick the edited one, seems super easy to edit ss.  id do a test right now but im at work and that hack program is a virus so i aint gonna mess with it here
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: iL on March 20, 2015, 09:56:17 AM
There was a thread where someone posted an edited ss.  I can't find it. Can you find out for me?
I didn't see such thread... On occult forums?
How about you post 2 ss il.  One clean and one edited....
I'm not experienced it graphics and i don't know the sercets i talked about (at least instead of some obvious), but well, i'll try to do what i can...
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 09:56:58 AM
How about you post 2 ss il.  One clean and one edited....  I just want to prove a point. Now don't take one hour to edit an ss.  Just do a normal edit as sses posting should be immediately after the game....
i have no idea how you think youre gonna pick the edited one, seems super easy to edit ss.  id do a test right now but im at work and that hack program is a virus so i aint gonna mess with it here

Easy like claw lol
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 20, 2015, 09:58:34 AM
How about you post 2 ss il.  One clean and one edited....  I just want to prove a point. Now don't take one hour to edit an ss.  Just do a normal edit as sses posting should be immediately after the game....

There was a thread where someone posted an edited ss.  I can't find it. Can you find out for me? I already looked at some on ss..war2.ru.
What are you trying to prove here? Everyone including mods are agreeing with you that it is possible...not worth it to post examples aka a method book on doing it properly for would be offenders.

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Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: iL on March 20, 2015, 10:24:51 AM
well, tried to make it careful:
which one is real?
test1 or test2? http://ss.war2.ru/view.php (http://ss.war2.ru/view.php)
test1: http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8292.pcx (http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8292.pcx)
test2: http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8293.pcx (http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8293.pcx)
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Winchester on March 20, 2015, 10:37:39 AM
And hacker will keep to call peoples newbe when they hacks.. I fucking tell the truth because its been ten years and it's time to do something.


You hack.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 10:45:37 AM
well, tried to make it careful:
which one is real?
test1 or test2? [url]http://ss.war2.ru/view.php[/url] ([url]http://ss.war2.ru/view.php[/url])
test1: [url]http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8292.pcx[/url] ([url]http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8292.pcx[/url])
test2: [url]http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8293.pcx[/url] ([url]http://ss.war2.ru/ss/8293.pcx[/url])


There no difference both the same and there no editing on this, legit screens both.

You just post the same ss 2 times.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 20, 2015, 10:47:28 AM
Shit, Eq!  Bad response.  He clearly shifted the building above the gold mine at 9 from the first to the second.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 20, 2015, 10:48:32 AM
Its WitchCraft D:"

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Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 10:52:16 AM
Shit, Eq!  Bad response.  He clearly shifted the building above the gold mine at 9 from the first to the second.

Well he moove a building from 1 black square.. I mean.. who will edit a building from 1 black square... there no hacking on this screen there only editing.. I dint watch only for editing... i was watching for sign of hacking.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 20, 2015, 10:54:35 AM
ok ill do one when i get home today.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: iL on March 20, 2015, 11:09:04 AM
Well he moove a building from 1 black square.. I mean.. who will edit a building from 1 black square... there no hacking on this screen there only editing.. I dint watch only for editing... i was watching for sign of hacking.
I didn't use maphack, should I?
It's just an example of editing ss.
I deleted 1 yellow square on minimap and added 1 more to the different place.
Cheater can just delete several yellow squares, is it different?
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 11:34:50 AM
Well he moove a building from 1 black square.. I mean.. who will edit a building from 1 black square... there no hacking on this screen there only editing.. I dint watch only for editing... i was watching for sign of hacking.
I didn't use maphack, should I?
It's just an example of editing ss.
I deleted 1 yellow square on minimap and added 1 more to the different place.
Cheater can just delete several yellow squares, is it different?

Yes you should open map hack play a real game on gow with alot of scouting and edit it/post it in 5 minutes like if it was a real request.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 20, 2015, 11:50:53 AM
One of the cmmon methods I have heard of is when someone ask for ss, say taken and quickly unpause, turn off map hack, then take a ss and you can change it to black and white in photoshop by putting it in grayscale after blacking out the gold mines. eazy peazy
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: EviL~Ryu on March 20, 2015, 11:52:59 AM
One of the cmmon methods I have heard of is when someone ask for ss, say taken and quickly unpause, turn off map hack, then take a ss and you can change it to black and white in photoshop by putting it in grayscale after blacking out the gold mines. eazy peazy
Exactly...why this whole business of SS is just stupid...warvideo is better imo.

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Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 12:01:10 PM
Yeah blid caught on to this one.... I wanted paused game ss...O well.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Nox on March 20, 2015, 12:10:20 PM
One of the cmmon methods I have heard of is when someone ask for ss, say taken and quickly unpause, turn off map hack, then take a ss and you can change it to black and white in photoshop by putting it in grayscale after blacking out the gold mines. eazy peazy

This is good if  they caught you when the map hack is open, but even if your map hack is close you have to edit, it's only another way to edit your ss when maphack is open to look like if your still on pause.

But you still have to do the initial editing after.

Finally this is just more job to do in 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on March 20, 2015, 12:10:44 PM
One of the cmmon methods I have heard of is when someone ask for ss, say taken and quickly unpause, turn off map hack, then take a ss and you can change it to black and white in photoshop by putting it in grayscale after blacking out the gold mines. eazy peazy

Easy to detect ;-)
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: I hate naggers on March 23, 2015, 03:01:17 PM
Didn't see this thread because I never check general discussion, but yep, I think i am an experienced hacker-wannabe now that I can edit screenies. Thou shalt not worry, though, because I am the most legit player evar and will use my knowledge to catch the hackers, nothing else!
Title: Re: Edited SS challenge.
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on March 23, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
One of the cmmon methods I have heard of is when someone ask for ss, say taken and quickly unpause, turn off map hack, then take a ss and you can change it to black and white in photoshop by putting it in grayscale after blacking out the gold mines. eazy peazy

Easy to detect ;-)


if you know what to look for and 99% don't or dont even bother.