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Title: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on May 31, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
Hey i want to start this topic to start posting my new map series idea The 2p Coop Campaign, hope it is added to War2ru donwloads section, when completed.


2p Coop Campaign
The maps will remain same as original to maintain the nostalgic feelings, except that the enemies will be scaled to 2X to maintain the difficulty average. Also a 2nd player base, of set of units will be added with same starting conditions.

-Human.
01: Added ogres and Troll lumbermill to enemy, 2nd player base.
02: Added more enemies with more tower, 2nd player base.

-Orc.
01: Added knight and Elven lumbermill to enemy, 2nd player base.
02: Added knights, ballistas and enemy town hall, 2nd player base.


Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: tupac on May 31, 2016, 09:43:28 PM
Hey i want to start this topic to start posting my new map series idea The 2p Coop Campaign, hope it is added to War2ru donwloads section, when completed.


2p Coop Campaign
The maps will remain same as original to maintain the nostalgic feelings, except that the enemies will be scaled to 2X to maintain the difficulty average. Also a 2nd player base, of set of units will be added with same starting conditions.



Welcome ! Yeah looks like a fun project. If you are looking for a teammate to help you complete all the campaign maps you should check this thread. Similar projects so maybe it would save you some time if you plan to do them all. Would love to have the complete set.

http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2180.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,2180.0.html)
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on June 01, 2016, 07:22:56 AM
nice man! instead of double units,add another cpu :o that would be getting difficult even with 2 players.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 01, 2016, 08:36:08 PM

Welcome ! Yeah looks like a fun project. If you are looking for a teammate to help you complete all the campaign maps you should check this thread. Similar projects so maybe it would save you some time if you plan to do them all. Would love to have the complete set.

Yes, im here again, my old account was lost, also hes doing a good work with Hard campaing example, but only have 3 maps, i will be able to complete it, and are want to test it if you like..
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 05, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
You still want to support me with the map series, does have any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: tupac on June 05, 2016, 05:35:46 PM
Sure I can give plunty of advice and troubleshooting if needed. Also you could try to balance orc and humans for a cool multiplayer map. Maybe make orge mages act like dks so palis can cast spell on orges...
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 17, 2016, 06:10:25 PM
You mean i will need to do custom unit data modifications to get balanced gameplay??
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on June 18, 2016, 01:48:43 PM
well yeah..u kinda always want to shoot for balance other wise your dellam.  :P

exo on orges :o that would probably beat lust.

but since your making a coop..id just leave it alone and just make it tougher for 2 players.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 18, 2016, 08:27:47 PM
Yes doing tougher enemies is my original idea, but i think tupac also want to make it so the gameplay is better, and no simple 2 player maps..
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 16, 2016, 03:51:01 PM
I got replace the campaign map files, now will need to know how to change map script.

(http://i.imgur.com/CFy7ycz.png)
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on July 16, 2016, 05:28:36 PM
ok when you play in bnet,it is destroy all enemies so u dont have to worry about it.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 18, 2016, 05:02:01 PM
ok when you play in bnet,it is destroy all enemies so u dont have to worry about it.

Yes, now im having a better idea about create new custom campaign with edited mission objectives.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Doler on July 22, 2016, 05:07:26 AM
I`m very interested in this project. I and a friend of mine have always wanted to play the warcraft 2 campaign in coop.
Let me know if we can help you with anything, and keep us posted on the progress.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 22, 2016, 08:22:44 PM
I`m very interested in this project. I and a friend of mine have always wanted to play the warcraft 2 campaign in coop.
Let me know if we can help you with anything, and keep us posted on the progress.

Yes, the problem of coop campaign is that maps will always have same objective because there are no triggers in multiplayers, maybe we can meet sometime to test it.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Doler on July 24, 2016, 02:52:46 PM
I`m very interested in this project. I and a friend of mine have always wanted to play the warcraft 2 campaign in coop.
Let me know if we can help you with anything, and keep us posted on the progress.

Yes, the problem of coop campaign is that maps will always have same objective because there are no triggers in multiplayers, maybe we can meet sometime to test it.


Not sure if anyone knows a way around this? Should be some way to make SP objectives possible.
Meanwhille I hope you can continue working on the maps, even w/o the objective! Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 26, 2016, 10:02:24 AM
The only possible solution is using Wargus for doing the coop campaign, there you can do custom scripted maps for multiplayer.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Doler on August 18, 2016, 06:52:00 AM
Hows it going Salva?

Hope you can find the time to get the maps done!
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on August 18, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
hey dudes may have another way to control your map properties.....the use of  save files..

for single player camp.

like right now im trying to put custom maps in the shareware dos version using dosbox.
on single player still crashing if i go into the camp not loading a sav file ....cant load pud(probably the header)

but if i use . sav it will load the original 1st map(even though its replaced)

conclusion...
the .sav is a .pud also :o this could be useful for single players!

ill try a bnet test.

good news!!!! it worked :P

u may need to enable campaings in ils options turn off aie ai!
most def for whoever creates a .sav cause you got to put in your map and  save it ;D

load that file and build 4 farms and a barrack.

all users has got to enable the camps enabled.

lets say u want a alot of return whoever to circle...just mpq that map with yours walla alot of circle of power maps.

looks like single player use only.

if multi .savs possible to be edited and played on bnet with map props not sure def interesting area.

 :o may be big map area! i doubt it :P well cheers some one got cases of beer later!
im serously sure the map props are turned on and off by the sav can be hexed !

gowcp4peon= bring rescue'd 4 peons to the center  circle for victory.

put these in the save folder!
i think it works better than making people do a mpqpatch :P
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Igognito on August 19, 2016, 06:34:14 PM
Sounds Cool!!!
I would be happy to beta test it if you need ;-)
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on August 19, 2016, 06:44:54 PM
Why you say the sav is a pud also, dont understand what you did, but for what i have seen sav is not completely similar to pud map files, how do you achieved to turn a map into save??
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on August 20, 2016, 02:17:11 AM
salv take your map,put it in mpqpatch with the (human10 orc05 )option you want.then go to the game, tigerlily or unit the clans to your map hit save!

it is a pud, it doesn't need your map to be played.you just give users the .sav files and name them.

but to multiplayer, you will need a test person i have no idea on it yet.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: tupac on August 20, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
salv take your map,put it in mpqpatch with the (human10 orc05 )option you want.then go to the game, tigerlily or unit the clans to your map hit save!

it is a pud, it doesn't need your map to be played.you just give users the .sav files and name them.

but to multiplayer, you will need a test person i have no idea on it yet.


Gonna have to edit the players locked into that map. That will be the difficult part. Plus removing the password from multiplayer mode when you host online.

Another hint:

.sav files are for single players saves there is another extention for multiplayer saves .mlt

Try to take a regular .pud change extention to .sav or .mlt see what happends.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on August 20, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
well for a multi yeah, have to find values for online.but those can still be destroy all.

im just seeing there could be some cool custom maps.

im pretty sure people played mlt's in ipx that is still better than wargus.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2h893qo.jpg) yeah dosbox will, i bet kali and war2ru will to, not sure about bnet.  not finding the .mlt's i saved one..also im not seeing a load in bnet.


also still not sure if the map objectives will work  >:( ill try and see. well sometime :P regardless theres a way to make some single players.

oh they do host in bnet lol i never play enough to know :P

Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Doler on September 19, 2016, 08:17:33 AM
Why you say the sav is a pud also, dont understand what you did, but for what i have seen sav is not completely similar to pud map files, how do you achieved to turn a map into save??

Hey mate,

Hows it going?
Tried any of the new suggestions for objectives?

Keep us updated!

-Doler
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on November 06, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Why you say the sav is a pud also, dont understand what you did, but for what i have seen sav is not completely similar to pud map files, how do you achieved to turn a map into save??
Hey mate,

Hows it going?
Tried any of the new suggestions for objectives?

Keep us updated!

-Doler

I have bad news about coop maps, the objectives cannot be changed, will need to be default "Destro all enemies", in multiplayer saves you can change some other values, but the one for objectives is just not used..
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: tupac on November 11, 2016, 06:39:49 PM
Why you say the sav is a pud also, dont understand what you did, but for what i have seen sav is not completely similar to pud map files, how do you achieved to turn a map into save??
Hey mate,

Hows it going?
Tried any of the new suggestions for objectives?

Keep us updated!

-Doler

I have bad news about coop maps, the objectives cannot be changed, will need to be default "Destro all enemies", in multiplayer saves you can change some other values, but the one for objectives is just not used..
I'm sure that is locked into the exe. I was able to successfully change them in single player with the hum1 campaign. The thread exists in this section.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: easycompany on November 11, 2016, 08:51:40 PM
if we could find it in the exe,most def! or somehow make memory programs to doit for us! already had nightmares of hex values :o
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on March 01, 2017, 04:09:41 PM
Continuing with this campaign added the 2nd scenario for each race (check firts post for updates.
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: mousEtopher on March 03, 2017, 08:51:54 AM
nice!
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on March 08, 2017, 03:52:59 PM
More coop maps for you, send me private if you want to this those.

Human 03: Added new enemy and coop ally, removed player ships.

Orc 03: Added new enemy and coop ally, removed player ships.

Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Doler on July 10, 2017, 08:03:02 AM
Anyone able to build the coop campaign in wargus?
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 12, 2017, 03:43:37 PM
None said nothing about making it in wargus, this was almost abandoned because lack of interest...
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Mynameislol on May 21, 2018, 04:27:15 PM
Hello, i want to say that i have found a way to get Coop working with cutscenes, briefings, scripts and all!!

I'm already working on the maps as we speak, i'm making them in the original PUD format to then convert into Wargus maps, as that's the only way it won't be regular "kill everything" maps.

I will, however upload the PUDs, when they are finished, and then later i will upload the maps for Wargus.

Stay tuned!

EDIT : Since i wrote this i've converted all of the maps to coop. It is not complete yet, as i've yet to add additional enemies & AI, but for those hungry for a coop experience, this should work in the meantime. https://www89.zippyshare.com/v/WL95LYrz/file.html

EDIT : Apperently Wargus' PUD converter is broken. The Wargus version will take longer than i expected.

EDIT: OK!!!!!!!! I got the wargus version working!!! I've not had the time to test it yet, so please inform me of any bugs!!

https://www115.zippyshare.com/v/ZbKdPlIq/file.html
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: Sejton on December 25, 2018, 11:23:23 AM
Hi,

Those links you provided seems to be out of date. Can you reupload them, please?

Thank you  ^-^
Title: Re: Map Series: 2p Coop Campaign
Post by: mousEtopher on December 25, 2018, 05:01:12 PM
@Mynameislol see prev post !