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Title: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 12:26:01 PM
Someone explain that to me?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: LuX on September 23, 2016, 12:31:45 PM
Name a person who has won a series vs him in the past 2 years
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 12:37:19 PM
I the past 2 years hacking was allowed.

Name a tournament he own that year?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 12:48:30 PM
I would love an answer from the responsable of this act or any admins, thank you.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: the_magician on September 23, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
get a life  :-[
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: mousEtopher on September 23, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
Kyle's the current #1 overall active WC2 player according to general consensus. The Legend icon is an extension of Tora's redistribution of master tags to top players & eventual plans to organize players into tiers according to skill and assign tier-specific icons.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 02:05:41 PM
Kyle's the current #1 overall active WC2 player according to general consensus. The Legend icon is an extension of Tora's redistribution of master tags to top players & eventual plans to organize players into tiers according to skill and assign tier-specific icons.

Thank you for that answer.

Now i got couples mores and will hopefully more answers.

- From wich standart Kyle aka swift is the CURRENT #1 overalll active WC2 player according to general consensus.

- How did that general consensus came to the conclusion he was the Current #1 Overall active WC2 players and who is that general consensus.

- How much players currently have this Icons and who they are.

- If by exemple i like this icon or if by exemple spb like this icon or if by exemple winchester like this icons or any other player and they want it. ( What are the standart to reach to acces this icon )

Like you see i really insist on the standart.

thank you.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 02:20:14 PM
By standart i mean the rule to acces this icon, you see?

Like Profil is not 1500 wins?
Sware is not 3000 wins?
Master is biase but lets believe it not, it suppose to be own a master tournament.

So whats are the standart if not biase to get on that legend icons.

This is what i mean, thank you.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 03:05:18 PM
Can we get equinox an icon for being the best war2 streamer.  Eq deserves credit for making the game more interesting and he bringing in more players. He is a legend for reaching #1 twice and being good at multiple games not just war2.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 03:09:15 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:09:38 PM
rofl, i want serious answer.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:10:51 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.

Whats are the standarts, this is the question tora.

WHAT ARE THE STANDARTS..

If anyone want this icon, what are the standart to reach???

WHATS ARE THE STANDARTS TORA!
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 03:13:25 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.

Tora is absolutely right in that no one has beaten swift >50% on any account ever. The top candidates are szwaiger, shotgun, and viruz (clearly rusty based on yesterday).
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 03:14:29 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.

Whats are the standarts, this is the question tora.

WHAT ARE THE STANDARTS..

If anyone want this icon, what are the standart to reach???

WHATS ARE THE STANDARTS TORA!

The standard is that no one has a winning record vs. Swift on any account. HE HAS BEATEN EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 23, 2016, 03:18:26 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.

Whats are the standarts, this is the question tora.

WHAT ARE THE STANDARTS..

If anyone want this icon, what are the standart to reach???

WHATS ARE THE STANDARTS TORA!
Seems like the standard is that if someone becomes Tier 1 champion and then defeats Swift, they can become the new legend.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
If you yourself want a legend Icon here is how you can do it.

Currently you are ranked at tier 2.
 

Step1:
Play in the tier 2 this Saturday or a future tier 2 tournament and win said tournament. After which you will be automatically entered into the tier 1 tournament.
Step2:
Play in the tier 1 tournament and win the tier 1. (Depending on how well you do you may be recommended for a master tag)
Step3
At this point you will be able to face Kyle in a series. Defeat Kyle in the series and prove you are better and you will then be recommended for a legend icon. 



Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
If you yourself want a legend Icon here is how you can do it.

Currently you are ranked at tier 2.
 

Step1:
Play in the tier 2 this Saturday or a future tier 2 tournament and win said tournament. After which you will be automatically entered into the tier 1 tournament.
Step2:
Play in the tier 1 tournament and win the tier 1. (Depending on how well you do you may be recommended for a master tag)
Step3
At this point you will be able to face Kyle in a series. Defeat Kyle in the series and prove you are better and you will then be recommended for a legend icon. 





What if in step 3 swift dodges EQ or EQ somehow wins a bo7 vs. Swift but not in a tournament setting?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 03:25:21 PM
All things will be taken into consideration. Obviously there are many different factors that can take place, myself and the other admins will address each issue when they take place.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
Swift was given a Legend Icon to separate him from the rest of the master tag holders.
Currently he is in a tier of his own. There is nobody on the server (including Viruz) that stands a chance against him in a series.

The plan is after the winner of the Tier 1 is decided the winner will then get to 1s swift in a KOTH bo5 series for a cash prize.

Tora is absolutely right in that no one has beaten swift >50% on any account ever. The top candidates are szwaiger, shotgun, and viruz (clearly rusty based on yesterday).

Actually he did win nothing since the anti hack release, he did not win a tournament, he did not win a series with stream or war video, if its that case i will want the proof, he did not play those player since 2014!

Startale, SPB, Steve aka Steph00, Joe, knitter or even our world champion player.

Actually he did 80 1v1 since 2015. ( And we all know those 80 1v1 have been played with joe, jordan and lux from his side ).

And did 140 1v1 in 2014.

is anti hack have not been release in 2015??

Actually the only thing he did is mysteriously get caught by anti hack after administrration said it was a false report.... Inside a big communauty it was the only false report.

I think, if he is so good he can legitly win that icon, i dont see why all those icon are give like a free pass.

When it was just more easy and realist to just let happen the real icons by winning a real tournament legitly with anti hack and warvideo.

Instead you biase all those icons, master icon, and now your gonna biase legend icons by some standar nobody even know and some statistic from 3 years ago when everyone was able to toggle map hack.

Instead to just let the reality and show at everyone who are the real master and the real legend.

Now its just become a joke again, give some free shitty pass base on a shitty hacking version past.

It was just perfect to use that anti hack release and start a new era where everyone need to really win something to deserve something.

Now you just givin gift to anybody from your PERSONAL judgment while alot of good players have to fight against each other to deserve a spot.

this is just a joke.

thank you for listening me, and i will love to remove this shitty sware icon on my equinox account.

Thank you again.

Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 03:37:01 PM
I don't doubt swift did probably hack in the past. However now he does run AH, and if you request a SS he will post it. You yourself have been accused of hacking in the past however now you are clean from that.

Ill remove your sware icon if that what you want.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
It's not personal judgement, if you made a poll right now swift would be rated #1 by the majority of players.

Swift lacks 1v1 games mainly because people don't want to play vs. Him. As far as hacking, thr burden of proof falls on you and he is innocent until proven guilty.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:40:30 PM
I don't doubt swift did probably hack in the past. However now he does run AH, and if you request a SS he will post it. You yourself have been accused of hacking in the past however now you are clean from that.

Ill remove your sware icon if that what you want.

Ive been caught ONCE in my life 15 years ago when i was a kid, when i was playing Big game Hunter and it was my first year at this game, i dont even know if you know this map anyway, while this guy have been caught MULTIPLE times at COMPETITIVE level at a grow age.. Just be serious two second pls.

And there is still not the reason, the reason is, he dint own no shit since anti hack release.

Thats the fucking truth.

And yes fucking remove this sware icon now, and fucking put it in your trash biase garbage.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:41:43 PM
It's not personal judgement, if you made a poll right now swift would be rated #1 by the majority of players.

Swift lacks 1v1 games mainly because people don't want to play vs. Him. As far as hacking, thr burden of proof falls on you and he is innocent until proven guilty.

By personal judgement i mean givin something without have to win it.

If he is a legend, he will win firstly a master icon, and secondly a legend icon, legitly without free pass.

All of that THIS YEAR with anti hack and warvideo to proof there no typing.

This is how it should work, period.

There no other fucking competitve game in the world where watchers can wisper players secretly, it dont existe anymore, ok?%
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:44:03 PM
It's not personal judgement, if you made a poll right now swift would be rated #1 by the majority of players.

Swift lacks 1v1 games mainly because people don't want to play vs. Him. As far as hacking, thr burden of proof falls on you and he is innocent until proven guilty.

No swift lack of 1v1 because he dont fucking play no one since years and years without joe, jordan or lux as watchers, period.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:46:33 PM
IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD TO LET WIN WHAT PEOPLES REALLY DESERVE?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 03:50:50 PM
Yeah, I hacked competitively in late 2003 or something for like 3-4 months straight, and the only reason that is known is that I told people I was calveries.

EQ - everything you say is not to be taken seriously. I'll play you or anyone with no watchers, or mutual watchers of choice. I'll also warvid or stream if anyone likes. I 1vs1 all the time without the aforementioned watchers. I've played countless 1vs1s with AH, and still continue to beat everyone more than they beat me, even though I've sucked for the last 7 years.

As for the icon - I didn't ask for it, nor can I even see it. My client is all types of messed up and has been for months. I don't care that I have it either, but I'll be a sport. If someone wants to challenge me for it on an agreed upon date, and ToRa is fine with the matchup, we can play TE or KOTH BO11. I won't have any required watchers, and I'll stream/warvid with AH.

If I get to warm up and prepare for the match, I don't think anyone out side of sg/viruz...and maybe u8...would have much of a chance.



Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:56:34 PM
Here how it should fucking work. ITS NOT FUCKING HARD GOD DAMN IT, ARE YOU ALL FUCKING KID.

First:: We suppose to have a world tournament every YEAR.. WHERE EVERY FUCKING TIER ARE ALLOWED...

TIER 3, TIER 2, TIER, 1, EVEN NO TIER, everyone allow..

Now we should have a master tournament every 3 month where a winner get the master.

He win the tournament, bravo you win a master icon, no fucking free pass, your just a fucking winner, congratulation.

Now when you got ENOUPH REAL, NOT BIASE MASTER PLAYER, you fucking do a legend tournament, where the winner get a legend icon.

Not so hard??? right??

BUT BE CAREFUL, NOBODY IS A MASTER FOR LIFE... SO... EVERY LOSER OF THE FIRST ROUND, LOSE THER MASTER ICONS.

Because if we dont, everyone gonna finally be master on this server...

NOW...

When you got 2 LEGEND, you make those 2 Legend 1v1 in a series, THE WINNER KEEP THE LEGEND ICON, the OTHER go back to master and need to start over with everyone.

Nowwww, To get on those tournaments you need to use anti hack... BECAUSE NO FUCKING ONE CARES ABOUT SS, without anti hack version THEY CAN TOGGLE SS. They also BREAK THE LATENCY FIX, ITS A COMPETITIVE LEVEL.. SOME PEOPLES USE RESSOURCE MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AND NEED A GOOD LATENCY FOR THAT. UNDERSTAND??

So the ANTI HACK VERSION IS primordial for 1, HACKING, but 2 LATENCY.

Now you need to use war2video or stream your games to proof there absolutly no form of cheat or typing.

This is how we run competitive tournaments and league.

WE DONT GIVE FREE PASS, AND WE DONT LET PEOPLES USE DIFFERENT STUPID CLIENTS WHERE EVERYTHING IS BIASE FROM HACKING TO THE LATENCY.

thank you for listening me.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Yeah, I hacked competitively in late 2003 or something for like 3-4 months straight, and the only reason that is known is that I told people I was calveries.

EQ - everything you say is not to be taken seriously. I'll play you or anyone with no watchers, or mutual watchers of choice. I'll also warvid or stream if anyone likes. I 1vs1 all the time without the aforementioned watchers. I've played countless 1vs1s with AH, and still continue to beat everyone more than they beat me, even though I've sucked for the last 7 years.

As for the icon - I didn't ask for it, nor can I even see it. My client is all types of messed up and has been for months. I don't care that I have it either, but I'll be a sport. If someone wants to challenge me for it on an agreed upon date, and ToRa is fine with the matchup, we can play TE or KOTH BO11. I won't have any required watchers, and I'll stream/warvid with AH.

If I get to warm up and prepare for the match, I don't think anyone out side of sg/viruz...and maybe u8...would have much of a chance.

SO BE A FUCKING MAN, REFUTE IT AND WIN IT LIKE A FUCKING MAN FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE WITH PROOF, SO IM FUCKING BE PROUD OF YOU AND FUCKING STOP TO HARASSE YOUR ABILITYS.

CAN YOU FUCKING DO THAT OR GONNA KEEP TO BE A FUCKING LOSER WE DONT KNOW IF HE CAN DO SOMETHING RIGHT WITHOUT HACK AND TYPING.

BE A FUCKING MAN SWIFT.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:03:17 PM
I WANT YOU TO BE A FUCKING MAN SWIFT, FUCKING DO IT!
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:05:07 PM
IT'S YOUR FUCKING CHANCE BRO, ALL THOSE YEARS, NOW YOU GOT THE CHANCE, DONT BE A FUCKING LOSER.

PROOF IT, FUCKING PROOF IT!
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 04:25:25 PM
Your missing the point EQ.

The reason Kyle was given that icon was to separate him from the rest of the players in tier 1.

Its not meant as a reward. Kyle cant be beaten in a series at the moment, all the other tier 1 players will agree.
For this reason he isn't going to be playing in the tier 1 tournaments. He will only play the winner of said tournaments. 

If you would like to see a festival where everyone plays and tags are given out. Your welcome to host one yourself. If you need help myself or one of the other admins will help.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:29:33 PM
Your missing the point EQ.

The reason Kyle was given that icon was to separate him from the rest of the players in tier 1.

Its not meant as a reward. Kyle cant be beaten in a series at the moment, all the other tier 1 players will agree.
For this reason he isn't going to be playing in the tier 1 tournaments. He will only play the winner of said tournaments. 

If you would like to see a festival where everyone plays and tags are given out. Your welcome to host one yourself. If you need help myself or one of the other admins will help.

He dont need to be separate from tier 1 untill he beat them! First it's an insult for every players.. that fucking stupid past is done, we move on and peoples get better, even myself im force to said some peoples are now better then me.. YOU NEVER FUCKING KNOW WHATS GONNA HAPPEN.. Why the fuck he will have this free LEGEN ICON, the first legend icon ever... FUCK THAT BRO.. Fuycking let him win that icon like a man, you already biase all those master icons, can you fucking let the reality takes cares of the rest now?? Now you think he cant be beaten in a series, so why he dont proof it on a master tournament where the winner get the first ever LEGEND ICON?? Is this is not more easy???

Stop destroying this butiful history warcraft II have, your not fucking helphin this game by choosen the story like if it was a script in WWE.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 04:34:45 PM
Nah. I don't really care. This isn't the first time someone aimed to give me a permanent/unique icon.

And it may not be modest, but I think I'm maybe the most dominant player in the history of the game - so if they want to give me a unique icon then whatever. I probably "deserve" it, and if they want to take it away then so what who cares, and I still don't care nor have much if any pride in an icon, or my war2 accomplishments. It's a silly old game that means nothing, and yeah I understand the game on a level way higher than you're probably ever capable of achieving/grasping. So what, let it sink in. You're an irrelevant player on an irrelevant game, and that won't change. It doesn't matter either. And yeah, I hacked over a decade ago like it was my religion for a few months. Maybe that shows a lot about my character. Maybe it taints all of my warcraft2 accomplishments. Have your own opinion about all of that, and how you would personally rank me because of it. Again it doesn't matter, cuz the game doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:40:40 PM
You always been a fucking loser and always fear from the real yourself when its time to proof what you are really capable..

Over all those years you have been build your carrer over hacking, we said you get caught multiples times, but actually what we should said is you HACKS THOSE PEOPLES MUTLTIPLES TIMES, because you dont have get caught every time you hacks.

How much time did you played someone legitly before he beat you and you ALT-TAB your computer on next game opening this map hack to conserve your reputation.

You have been a liar and a loser all over those years, you have steal the life of other peoples by cheated them and hacking them while they were dedicated ther own life to this game.

You have now the chance to be a fucking man and proof you can own that icon legitly and save your shitty past, because whatever those stupid fucking dumbs admins will give you, you will never erase that past who follow you, you had the chance today and again you fear that with a following stuipid text where you said that game dosent matter.

Your again a stupid liar a fucking trash who deserve a fucking fist into your teeths for playing all those peoples while they are protecting you.

You can save all of them by winning this icon legitly and proof they are not fucking delusional.

But again, you will fear again, like the fucking loser trash you always have been.

Have a nice day fake ass stupid legend.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 04:44:13 PM
Also equinox -

peeps like blid, burnt, il, ldir, axo, and maybe as of late mousey and tora probably deserve an icon or damn banner at the top of the server or websites for some recognition all of the stuff they've done for this game. You're wanting to be like them, but instead you're a delusional and destructive player trying to bring them and everything else down. They've collectively held this game up and been a great service to it, and most of em for many years, maybe you should follow suit and get on board.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:46:16 PM
Nobody have never argue about what they do, yes they have did great things for this game and we all appreciated that, the fact is not there, the fact is about how they can do WAY MUCH MORE and they dont..

But You cant understand that OVER your SUPER deserve icon, right MR.CockLover?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 04:48:35 PM
eq, i read like the first sentence or two

you keep saying i take tips / hack and you want to get into these long arguments and rants stating why but there's no point because as I've said, i'll play anyone on any sets with no required watchers, while using AH and streaming/warviding. You can even setup the match if you'd like. Thats it man, have a nice day and i'll close out with something gay - "put up or shut up"
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:49:54 PM
eq, i read like the first sentence or two

you keep saying i take tips / hack and you want to get into these long arguments and rants stating why but there's no point because as I've said, i'll play anyone on any sets with no required watchers, while using AH and streaming/warviding. You can even setup the match if you'd like. Thats it man, have a nice day and i'll close out with something gay - "put up or shut up"

We dont talk about us swift, you know i dont play you since long time ago, and it will never change untill my opinion of you change, we talk about YOU, YOU AND YOUR NON DESERVE ICON, you have to win this icon NOW, not from your past, your past is gone, proof it NOW.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 04:51:51 PM
You are insulting all those players swift with your non sens acceptance to this icon, fucking be a man and win it like a man, let the fucking chance to other peoples, and let story write by themself.

Are you fucking scare?

REFUSE THIS ICON!
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 05:00:09 PM
Are u saying swift isn't the best on the server at the moment?

You are forgetting the point its not about earning it. Its about recognition.

Your the only one that seems to be making a huge fuss.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:01:21 PM
Are u saying swift isn't the best on the server at the moment?

You are forgetting the point its not about earning it. Its about recognition.

Im saying HE HAVE TO PROOF HE IS THE BEST AT THE MOMENT, NOT FROM HIS PAST.. You are giving the first legend icon like that, where the fuck do you live, mars?? It should be win by a real winner dude, wtf your doing, is that a joke??

Wtf your doing insulting everyone?? BECAUSE... EVEN IF HE REALLY THE BEST, YOUR FUCKING STEALING THE CHANCE TO EVERYONE?? Fucking let this icon being win like it should be.

If he is so good, he will own it anyway, right? So what is the fucking probleme about giving chance to other peoples??
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 05:03:55 PM
Insulting who? ToRa more or less talked to many/most of the top players and they all admitted they wouldn't fare well vs me in a series. And outside of three players, it's been that way for over a decade now. Who cares? It is what it is. It doesn't matter how we feel about it or a person, it's just the facts. I don't have anything to prove man, and I don't care to prove anything or "earn" anything. I'll continue to go in spurts of being active and inactive, and just having fun playing games with everyone. I don't play anything out side of this game, I'm not a gamer just a warcraft 2 fan. These days nearly all ego is aside and everyone's just playing for pure fun of the company and the game itself. I don't have any problems with you, and I think it'd be cool to 1s/2s with you, but you've just been upset for the last few years about some stuff so whatever no hard feelings. I don't want to argue with you or anything tho, and I can't help it if you are upset about things that otherwise don't even matter to me or most of us. cheers.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:05:05 PM
Insulting who? ToRa more or less talked to many/most of the top players and they all admitted they wouldn't fare well vs me in a series. And outside of three players, it's been that way for over a decade now. Who cares? It is what it is. It doesn't matter how we feel about it or a person, it's just the facts. I don't have anything to prove man, and I don't care to prove anything or "earn" anything. I'll continue to go in spurts of being active and inactive, and just having fun playing games with everyone. I don't play anything out side of this game, I'm not a gamer just a warcraft 2 fan. These days nearly all ego is aside and everyone's just playing for pure fun of the company and the game itself. I don't have any problems with you, and I think it'd be cool to 1s/2s with you, but you've just been upset for the last few years about some stuff so whatever no hard feelings. I don't want to argue with you or anything tho, and I can't help it if you are upset about things that otherwise don't even matter to me or most of us. cheers.

WE DONT FUCKING CARES ABOUT WHAT PEOPLES ADMIT, WE CARES ABOUT YOU, WINNING THIS ICON IN 2016 LIKE EVERYONE HAVE TO DO. ARE YOU FUCKING SCARE HOMMIE?

WHY DO YOU FEAR, CUZ YOUR A FUCKING COWARD WHO WANT FREE ICON WITHOUT WINNING IT OVER EVERYONE??

And if you dont like this game anymore and it dosent matter so fucking let this icon for peoples who still cares, and keep doing your stupid friendly match, because this icon is about competition and you will need to compete anyway, shut the fuck up with all those dumb ass excuses.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 05:07:30 PM
Yes I have proof.

I have hosted dozens of tournaments throughout the year of 2016-2015. Not mention I also gave away cash prizes for the ladder for a short period.

Every time Swift competed in either he won. No question, was never even close except for one series against Lux.
When someone is up against swift they usually lose face before the game even begins. Which is why he is being given a Legend icon.
And which is why he is now being separated from the rest of the tier 1's.

If at any point some player, Viruz, Khb, Valkaria, etc comes out of retirement and owns swift. Then we can talk about maybe removing it from his name and having him compete in the tier 1 with the rest of the players. But until then this is how it stands.

Let it go.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:08:27 PM
Yes I have proof.

I have hosted dozens of tournaments throughout the year of 2016-2015. Not mention I also gave away cash prizes for the ladder for a short period.

Every time Swift competed in either we won. No question, was never even close except for one series against Lux.
When someone is up against swift they usually lose face before the game even begins. Which is why he is being a Legend icon.
And which is why he is now being separated from the rest of the tier 1's.

If at any point some player, Viruz, Khb, Valkaria, etc comes out of retirement and owns swift. Then we can talk about maybe removing it from his name and having him compete in the tier 1 with the rest of the players. But until then this is how it stands.

Let it go.

Your a fucking dumb bass tora, eat shit my brotha.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
Are u saying swift isn't the best on the server at the moment?

You are forgetting the point its not about earning it. Its about recognition.

Im saying HE HAVE TO PROOF HE IS THE BEST AT THE MOMENT, NOT FROM HIS PAST.. You are giving the first legend icon like that, where the fuck do you live, mars?? It should be win by a real winner dude, wtf your doing, is that a joke??

Wtf your doing insulting everyone?? BECAUSE... EVEN IF HE REALLY THE BEST, YOUR FUCKING STEALING THE CHANCE TO EVERYONE?? Fucking let this icon being win like it should be.

If he is so good, he will own it anyway, right? So what is the fucking probleme about giving chance to other peoples??

While tora did give the icon to swift without discussion, it was his right to do so. Tora has and is putting in his own money and time to set these tournaments up. He is doing it to promote the great game of war2 and not to insult anyone.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:15:50 PM
Putting his own money dont mean stealing chances to other peoples.

Everyone fucking know it, and nobody will argue that fact.

This guy can be the fucking legend of the universe but he still have to win it first and defend it last.

No fucking free pass like if everyone are fucking shit.

It's not fucking WWE.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 05:19:35 PM
Putting his own money dont mean stealing chances to other peoples.

Everyone fucking know it, and nobody will argue that fact.

This guy can be the fucking legend of the universe but he still have to win it first and defend it last.

No fucking free pass like if everyone are fucking shit.

It's not fucking WWE.

You insist on swift earning the icon yet you refuse to play him. How can he earn it when he doesn't even have a chance to play?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:22:19 PM
Putting his own money dont mean stealing chances to other peoples.

Everyone fucking know it, and nobody will argue that fact.

This guy can be the fucking legend of the universe but he still have to win it first and defend it last.

No fucking free pass like if everyone are fucking shit.

It's not fucking WWE.

You insist on swift earning the icon yet you refuse to play him. How can he earn it when he doesn't even have a chance to play?

I don talk about me, i talk about everyone, i dont even want this icon, im not even master and im not even planning to participate on this master tournament tomorow... I dont even cares about biased tournaments.

I cares about those peoples who fucking give ther life to this game and cant even had the chance to compete for this first legend icons.

This is all what i fucking cares dude.

And you told me peoples have the right to be steal because that guy spent money??

I FUCKING SAID NO BRO, IM SORRY BUT NO.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 05:29:42 PM
Find one player who thinks the useless legend icon was stolen from him with no chance of earning it. Are you really advocating for other players or are you taking your own personal issues with swift out on tora?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:31:55 PM
Find one player who thinks the useless legend icon was stolen from him with no chance of earning it. Are you really advocating for other players or are you taking your own personal issues with swift out on tora?

WE DONT FUCKING CARES WHAT PEOPLES THINK, AND WHAT PEOPLES SAID, PEOPLES ARE SOFT AND DUMB AND LET EVERYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM LIKE IF THEY ARE SHIT. I TALK FOR THEM EVEN IF THEY SAID THE OPPOSITE, CUZ WHAT I SAID IS JUST THE TRUTH.. PEOPLES HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE THE CHANCES TO COMPETE FOR THIS ICON EVEN IF HE IS THE REAL ONE.. BUT TO BE THE REAL ONE HE HAVE TO BEAT THOSE PEOPLES WHERE THOSE PEOPLES HAVE THE CHANCE EVEN IF THEY GONNA LOSE.

THEY ARE NOT SHIT, AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO COMPETE FOR IT, EVEN IF THEY LOSE.

UNDERSTAND THAT?

Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:38:25 PM
You are a fucking coward KYLE, eard me i dont even call you swift, i call you by your real yourself, you are a fucking coward kyle.

Fucking die in warcraft II hell piece of shit.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 05:41:07 PM
This is a game by the people, for the people. Of course it matters what everyone else says and thinks.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 23, 2016, 05:50:05 PM
Hey Equinox relax bro
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 05:52:02 PM
Hey Equinox relax bro

I will not fucking relax, ive already fucking made a compromise letting biase all those master icon the first time and said no shit, but i will not this fucking time dude.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 23, 2016, 05:56:43 PM
Everyone has a path to get the Legend icon.  It doesn't matter who starts with it because anyone can get it.  Simply win the tier 1 tournament and then defeat Swift.  He is only starting with it because he's the best player ever.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 06:00:19 PM
I will not defeat nobody, im done with this game, have fun everyone, its the last time ever.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: mousEtopher on September 23, 2016, 06:22:26 PM
I will not defeat nobody, im done with this game, have fun everyone, its the last time ever.

:(
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 23, 2016, 06:50:38 PM
I will not defeat nobody, im done with this game, have fun everyone, its the last time ever.

:(

Lets give EQ an icon too, best streamer on twitch!
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Sentinel1 on September 23, 2016, 06:59:08 PM
i dont read anything EQ posts and i cant believe any of you seriously engage with him.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Swift on September 23, 2016, 07:51:09 PM
You are a fucking coward KYLE, eard me i dont even call you swift, i call you by your real yourself, you are a fucking coward kyle.

Fucking die in warcraft II hell piece of shit.

Thanks man...
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 23, 2016, 09:09:29 PM
Tbh I didnt really read much of what EQ was posting all through out this thread. I just skimmed over a few posts.

Hard to beleive anyone can write such long angry posts back to back with such passion.
This is over an icon...the guy quit war 2 cause he is upset cause he thinks over steped my authority.

But at the end of the day it is still all about a icon...
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 23, 2016, 10:05:40 PM
This is not about autority, you know why? Because for me you have no fucking autority, did i have ever play your fucking tournament? No, because i have never fucking like your tournament since the beginning, Because  This is about your fucking stupid behavior, your way to do things without asking nobody and dint cares about nobody, and ive try to close eyes on your shitty master biase icon, but now you will fuck yourself, i fuck your stupid shitty money in the garbage with you, maybe you can buy those poor lost peoples but you will not buy me,  fuck your ass and your cheepy no sens tournament.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Winchester on September 24, 2016, 01:28:12 AM
Any good reason why you're still allowed to create a thread?
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Winchester on September 24, 2016, 01:47:55 AM
im done with this game, have fun everyone, its the last time ever.

Heard this one before, and then I debunked it.  And you cried. Do a better job this time round. see you in a few days
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on September 24, 2016, 04:54:42 AM
I like the legend idea! Swift is legend. Sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Knitter on September 24, 2016, 09:26:54 AM
hahahhaha this is good!
look guys... I think it doesnt matter in what tier ur starting. Sooner or later all player will be in the tier they belong.
I woundt care if im in tier 5. i would just play and prove anyone wrong by winning all tier 5 tournaments and move up.
Actually i understand what Equinox is saying but like i said sooner or later we get what we deserve.

And for Tora and Burnt i have the most respect for you guys,very good job, keep on.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: BenJamin on September 24, 2016, 10:38:46 AM
hahahhaha this is good!
look guys... I think it doesnt matter in what tier ur starting. Sooner or later all player will be in the tier they belong.
I woundt care if im in tier 5. i would just play and prove anyone wrong by winning all tier 5 tournaments and move up.
Actually i understand what Equinox is saying but like i said sooner or later we get what we deserve.

And for Tora and Burnt i have the most respect for you guys,very good job, keep on.

EQ occasionally makes good points, too bad he cries wolf too many times for anyone to take it seriously.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 24, 2016, 06:28:04 PM
hahahhaha this is good!
look guys... I think it doesnt matter in what tier ur starting. Sooner or later all player will be in the tier they belong.
I woundt care if im in tier 5. i would just play and prove anyone wrong by winning all tier 5 tournaments and move up.
Actually i understand what Equinox is saying but like i said sooner or later we get what we deserve.

And for Tora and Burnt i have the most respect for you guys,very good job, keep on.

EQ occasionally makes good points, too bad he cries wolf too many times for anyone to take it seriously.

Occasionally?? There no occasionally, i just fucking said the truth all the fucking time... When i said those stupid admin are fucking lazy, its not fucking occasionally and its not fucking bullshit.

This is the entire fucking truth, they are fucking lazy and also retard.

But obviously peoples like you still believe those admins are usefull.

The difference between me and you is this one, im not friend with them, im not friend with nobody, i am me myself and i, and i dont said nothing on favor of nobody.. I just fucking said what I seen.

And what i seen is a staff of lazy retard admin who fucking dont cares ABOUT NOBODY OF you, you all just get fucking rob like pieces of shits in your fucking face.

And all of you or so fucking soft and dumb and just said nothing.

At least im happy to see knitter said he see what i mean, and we all FUCKING KNOW EVERYONE SEE WHAT I MEAN...

BUT YOUR ALL FUCKING DUMB AND SOFT AND SAID NOTHING ABOUT THAT, EVEN IF YOUR ALL FUCKING LOSER ALREADY, YOU SHOULD FUCKING STEP UP AND SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS FUCKING ROB.

They fucking threa you like a shit, while tora his fucking cock sucking swift on channel all fucking day long.

You all fucking piece of shit lto stand all those fucking retard admins.

Thats what you got for being so fucking dumb, RETARD ADMINS.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 24, 2016, 09:25:00 PM
I and the other admins do care about the community Equinox.

Ill leave it at that.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Equinox on September 24, 2016, 09:32:12 PM
I and the other admins do care about the community Equinox.

Ill leave it at that.


You may rob the communauty with your shitty personal judgement but today you just got rob of 40 dollars.

Antti fucking proof your judgement aint worth shit, and everyone on channel told you your tournament was retard shit and mean nothing.

Your a total piece of shit, i fucking pee into your face you and all your entire fucking retard staff, fuck you, fuck you and fuck you again piece of shit.
Title: Re: Any good reason why swift have a Legend icon?
Post by: Winchester on September 25, 2016, 03:45:39 AM
i fucking pee into your face

Someone takes Warcraft 2 way too seriously.