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Title: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on August 26, 2017, 06:59:15 PM
i looked it up, second largest crime rate in the us...

what are the findings?


The population was about 49.2% African American, 43.9% White (42.2% Non-Hispanic White), 2.9% Asian, 0.3% Native American/Alaska Native, and 2.4% reporting two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.5% of the population.[44]


NIGGERS?!?!?!?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 26, 2017, 07:03:33 PM
^^Claw are you bored?

Make a time machine so you can go in the future and see what the lotto numbers are.
Then come back and tell me what they are.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on August 26, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
well but what do u have to say about my SHOCKING findings
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 27, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
I got a bigger mystery that needs solving.

WHITE KIDS SHOOTING SCHOOLS

I DID THE RESEARCH 90% OF ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WERE DONE BY CRACKERS.

NEED I SAY THE PROBLEM HERE IS,

CRACKERS?!?!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on August 27, 2017, 11:28:21 AM
I got a bigger mystery that needs solving.

WHITE KIDS SHOOTING SCHOOLS

I DID THE RESEARCH 90% OF ALL SCHOOL SHOOTINGS WERE DONE BY CRACKERS.

NEED I SAY THE PROBLEM HERE IS,

CRACKERS?!?!

you know the difference between me and the retarded lefties? If statistics really say so, i am willing to acknowledge that fact. libtards will never say "niggers commit more crimes/are more violent/muzlimz rape waaaay more women" even though its a well documented fact
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on August 27, 2017, 11:42:14 AM
"NRA-1-articleLarge

Recent studies reveal that most school shooters are White males, with 97 percent being male and 79 percent White."

here: Most of school shootings are commited by white males
see the difference between normal, reasonable person and a blind retarded agenda-follower?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 11, 2017, 08:42:20 PM
In a 2005 60 Minutes interview, Rock said: "By the way, I've never done that joke again, ever, and I probably never will. 'Cos some people that were racist thought they had license to say nigger. So, I'm done with that routine."
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 11, 2017, 08:59:37 PM
do you think claw is serious in this thread or he's legit stupid ?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 01:51:52 AM
serious
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 12, 2017, 03:59:23 AM
i looked it up, second largest crime rate in the us...

what are the findings?


The population was about 49.2% African American, 43.9% White (42.2% Non-Hispanic White), 2.9% Asian, 0.3% Native American/Alaska Native, and 2.4% reporting two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 3.5% of the population.

Wow! So white people are 146 times more violent than Native Americans!!!!!!

OMG That's the complete and real story!!

DUDE WTF IS WRONG WITH WHITE PEOPLE?

They be freakin' crazy man.....  ;D
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 04:14:47 AM
Wow! So white people are 146 times more violent than Native Americans!!!!!!
?
read the sentence first, then read the numbers, then interpret them properly
numbers never lie.  leftists fail to understand that. the statistic itself cant be racist
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 12, 2017, 04:21:12 AM
Wow! So white people are 146 times more violent than Native Americans!!!!!!
?
read the sentence first, then read the numbers, then interpret them properly
numbers never lie.  leftists fail to understand that. the statistic itself cant be racist

OH! So this population was 49.2% black and 50.8% non-black?

So what was your point again? .... sorry I can't keep up when you start talking all technical and stuff ....
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 05:24:27 AM
Wow! So white people are 146 times more violent than Native Americans!!!!!!
?
read the sentence first, then read the numbers, then interpret them properly
numbers never lie.  leftists fail to understand that. the statistic itself cant be racist

OH! So this population was 49.2% black and 50.8% non-black?

So what was your point again? .... sorry I can't keep up when you start talking all technical and stuff ....
yes. step 1 complete
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 12, 2017, 05:52:22 AM
Soooooooooo.... what's your point?  ???
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 07:25:05 AM
fact: above-average cities in terms of violence have above-average % of black population

my point: noggerz = violence
blids counterpoint: blacks are more violent because of capitalism, but at the same time blacks arent more violent

whats yours? we're open to discussion here
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 12, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
Oh. So that's an abnormal racial population profile? Not established, but I will take your word for it.

umm... but didn't you also establish that it was the white males who were perpetrating the worst violence?

So these same statistics could also mean that white racist fucktards pee their pants when they see too many black guys because they feel threatened because they have tiny little peckers, so they lose their shit and go kill school kids to take their minds off their inadequate junk?

           --------- # --------- # ---------

... but anyway, if you're really serious about this shit, then go look up the % of the high ranking police officers, politicians, lawyers and judges in the same areas that are black.

Then consider how many of the white police/judges are racist fucktards with tiny little peckers like you, so they go around charging and convicting black people twice as often as white people.

Because THAT is what your statistics really are, aren't they? BE HONEST WITH YOURSELF - They are statistics on the number of people that the system has convicted.

They are not any sort of scientific study that removes environmental factors and tests for actual violent tendencies.


It's a popularity poll and the only people who get to vote are police, lawyers, and judges.


You are smart enough to have realised this on your own, if you weren't so hell bent on pushing your racist barrow.

So if you can't honestly consider this now that I have spelled it out for you, then you have no point worth hearing.









Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 10:32:47 AM
They are not any sort of scientific study that removes environmental factors and tests for actual violent tendencies.
this is what he refuses to get, thats why he summarizes my reply to him as "blacks are more violent because of capitalism, but at the same time blacks arent more violent." to him that that sounds absurd because he cant think on a complex enough level to understand that a crime statistic does not mean an innate predilection to violence that comes with the skin color
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 12:47:48 PM
so youre leaning towards blids side as well PLUS chicken and egg paradox? "statistics are racist, judges are racist, system is racist", or "there's more crime because people are biased towards blacks and they are biased towards blacks because there is more crime"

more violence inflicted by niggers? statistics are wrong/racist
more niggers in jail? judges are wrong/racist
and i am the one who refuses to get something?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 12:52:43 PM
and i am the one who refuses to get something?

Yeah, that's right: Seinfeld's David Puddy - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNOa5Uvjpwo#)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 12, 2017, 01:01:58 PM
first problem is that you keep bringing up these statistics but not providing sources.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 01:10:51 PM
it doesnt really matter if the statistics are real or not, the problem is hes blind to all context and drawing insipid conclusions from them
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 01:28:16 PM
first problem is that you keep bringing up these statistics but not providing sources.
last time i did that, you questioned the source (first search result in google) without providing your own. so nice try, faglet

Quote
the problem is hes blind to all context
context? we can talk about CONTEXT if you acknowledge the fact first. we can't talk about earths radius if you keep saying its flat. i have a feeling we're getting close here
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 12, 2017, 01:39:24 PM
oh yea, your sources were white supremacist websites. fuck you're a retard.

there's nothing to argue until you bring up legitimate sources, all your doing is blathering on about unfounded garbage. fake statistics you've invented in your head or that you saw on stormfront.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
there are tons of sources, all of which you can question, so provide your own, 'legit one' that disproves mine
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 12, 2017, 04:09:38 PM
what do you mean "disproves mine", you haven't provided anything to disprove you idiot. you're just blathering bullshit right now.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 12, 2017, 04:33:12 PM
me? *I* havent provided anything?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 10:17:59 PM
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 12, 2017, 10:42:05 PM
Soon asians will be the wealthiest community in America.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 10:46:36 PM
The wealthiest community/... is the capitalist class. Rich people!  did I just blow your mind???
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 12, 2017, 11:14:11 PM
^^lol, boy upset about how the world works and thus refuses to join the system.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 12, 2017, 11:50:05 PM
We're all in the system my man, I'm just not gonna be pointing fingers at Asians or black people or any other ethnic group
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2017, 12:52:45 AM
I am south asian, was just making light.

Ill say thou this idea that one day communism will come and save the world is a fantasy. Its not happening.
You gotta be selfish to achieve economic success in America it's a harsh reality but it's the truth.
But that doesn't mean everyone can't achieve some level of success. Sucess will just be different depending on what circumstances someone has faced.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 01:16:46 AM
i really love how blid keeps pointing out the differences between races that may favour violence in black, but at the same time absolutely refuses to acknowledge that they, indeed, commit more crimes
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 08:03:25 AM
I am south asian, was just making light.

Ill say thou this idea that one day communism will come and save the world is a fantasy. Its not happening.
You gotta be selfish to achieve economic success in America it's a harsh reality but it's the truth.
But that doesn't mean everyone can't achieve some level of success. Sucess will just be different depending on what circumstances someone has faced.
Communism has happened before and will happen again because capitalism is always, by design, hurting people and leaving them behind.  It hurts more and more people so that the very wealthy can horde more and more of the wealth.

Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 08:06:13 AM
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Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2017, 08:13:23 AM
You can argue communism will come back but you know last I checked there weren't too many communist governments around the world.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 08:54:11 AM
“There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.”
― Vladimir Lenin
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 08:55:01 AM
Posts: 1488

nazi get out
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 10:14:58 AM
nice links, memes and made-up arguments, but here are facts:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germany_(1945%E2%80%9390) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Germany_(1945%E2%80%9390))
any comment?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 10:19:04 AM
Comment about what? post unification, East Germany has been left behind. They want communism back
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2017, 10:21:09 AM
May I ask what leader would you want to establish communism in America?
I've never heard any political figure advocating it.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
May I ask what leader would you want to establish communism in America?
I've never heard any political figure advocating it.


lol
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 11:08:44 AM
Comment about what? post unification, East Germany has been left behind. They want communism back
ah, i see, so the unification is the sole reason for that
#communism
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 11:23:43 AM
imagine being dumb enough to think wikipedia is a good source on anything political.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 11:32:05 AM
here your retaded nigger ass goes again, questioning sources that describe historical events
would you prefer it in a form of funny meme that you can shitpost in your nigger thread?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 11:40:07 AM
yea i wonder why all your sources are questionable
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 11:43:39 AM
May I ask what leader would you want to establish communism in America?
I've never heard any political figure advocating it.
Colin Kaepernick
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 12:04:40 PM
yea i wonder why all your sources are questionable
is your retarded nigger ass questioning the split of germany? or a certain fact in the article? or just being a retarded ass nigger as usual?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 12:05:12 PM
damn you commies are even more retarded than the ones we have in poland
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 12:19:30 PM
why is this guy throwing around words like "retard", this self-loather doesn't mind his own ableism may further contribute to his own societal alienation?  ;D people like you are already marginalized in society.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
I'm smart actually
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 12:21:44 PM
well youre the less retarded one so in the commie spectrum you might appear smart, yes. but our friend jonathan here...
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 13, 2017, 01:39:43 PM
Oh, the meeting of educated, thinking minds coming together to dispense knowledge!

"You're a retard!"

"No, you're a retard!"

"No, you're a retard!"

"You retard!"

My, it's overflowing in here with intelligent thought.

I can't wait til we come to the suspenseful conclusion of this fine discussion to discover who, in fact, is the biggest retard!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
Oh, the meeting of educated, thinking minds coming together to dispense knowledge!

"You're a retard!"

"No, you're a retard!"

"No, you're a retard!"

"You retard!"

My, it's overflowing in here with intelligent thought.

I can't wait til we come to the suspenseful conclusion of this fine discussion to discover who, in fact, is the biggest retard!

no, its:

*facts + thesis*
*no u retard*
*no u retard* (now it loops)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 01:42:24 PM
will the mystery of violence in st.louis ever be resolved? do you have any theory as for why the crime rate there is so high, babyshark?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
I already solved it in the other thread. I'm smart
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 13, 2017, 02:22:21 PM
Everyone wants to feel good about themselves.

People want to belong to a "superior" group, no matter what it is. It can be race, gender, religion, sports team, political views, the better portion of the military (which I've heard for Americans is the Marines, sooo much better than army or navy), age (ie. seniors and children are a "drag" on society and not worth as much as "productive" young adults), health status, drug-free status, criminal-background-free status, or any number of things.

If evolution is true, which teaches that white people are more evolved, and that black people are more ape-like and less human, then racism is the natural result. Some people are dehumanized so they can be mistreated or killed. This happened to the Jews...it was first spread that they were less than fully human and their existence among "advanced" races threatened to corrupt "pure" genes with their "contaminated" ones. Then murdering them becomes not only alright, but the "solution" to save your race from being ruined by people who are considered inferior. This is where we are today in North America. Unborn children and seniors have been stripped of their fully human status and are being killed daily.

Evolution isn't true. God made people. Each human life has value because God made it and loves it.

People are sinful and corrupt, as is plainly obvious from looking around at how messed up and broken this world is.

It's not limited to any group of people. All people are sinful. All people are loved by God. All the sins of all people were paid for by Jesus' death in our place.

If evolution is true, racism is good.

If evolution is true, human life has no value. You don't matter. Nothing you do matters.

If evolution is true, killing anyone who is ugly, sickly, unintelligent, disabled, or flawed in any way is fine.

If evolution is true, nothing is wrong. Murder, lying, hate, hurting other people, raping, war, whatever anyone wants to do is all fine. Who is to say it isn't? Some person's opinion? Who is to say any opinion is better than any other? It would be just personal preference, but not truly morally wrong and with any lasting consequence.

It's wrong to hate or hurt or look down on other people because we are all made by the same God who loves each and every person He made, and wants us to love each other.

Many evil people have been white. It's not limited to color.

Wanting to push down blacks as being the cause of all evil in any given city doesn't really serve much purpose other than trying to make yourself feel like you belong to a superior group and better about yourself. It does nothing to remedy the problems you're talking about as far as I can see.

Yes, there is statistically correllation between certain groups and certain behaviors, but correllation doesn't prove causation.

For example, a study could find that increased hand size is correllated with increased literacy and it could be a very perfectly designed study carried out thoroughly. But it wasn't hand size that caused the increased literacy. It was age. Adults normally read better than infants and young children.

Trying to assign blame is less constructive than trying to find solutions that might help someone.

If you're concerned about crime in areas, do something to help the victims or prevent more crime.

Give money to programs that promote education for youth, that try to fight against drug use, or support people financially who have been victims of crime.

Encourage others to help, too.





Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 02:23:58 PM
answer key:
THESIS
capitalism exploits and neglects people and doesnt care, thats how capitalism works, it's not how race works but you might be able to guess why this would work out poorly for black people in a racist nation with a racist history of slavery and discrimination

this is your well-established autism at work, you see those numbers but are unable to comprehend the context behind them which ive already explained.  a long and flagrant history of racism combines with capitalism to lead to oppression, poverty, and neglect. oppression, poverty, and neglect leads to crime.  the ruling classes in a capitalist society dont even mind this, they live in gated communities, they lock people up and exploit them for free labor, thats all good and fine and doesnt threaten their status at the top of society.  it's not really all that complicated but i guess it's not the preferred explanation for the broke brained racist man's mind

SUPPORTING EVIDENCE

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okay and we've already talked about why that might be, maybe we should fix that capitalism and oppression and racism stuff instead of blaming the people suffering the consequences

have you ever been to any of these abandoned areas, wastelands full of boarded up and crumbling rowhomes, the utter desolation festering there right in the middle of these cities?

([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/02/article-2408624-1B8BA853000005DC-231_964x603.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2016/02/baltimore-3-1024x768.jpg[/url])

i wonder why people would turn to crime here, what a mystery
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 02:30:24 PM
answer key:
THESIS
capitalism exploits and neglects people and doesnt care, thats how capitalism works, it's not how race works but you might be able to guess why this would work out poorly for black people in a racist nation with a racist history of slavery and discrimination

this is your well-established autism at work, you see those numbers but are unable to comprehend the context behind them which ive already explained.  a long and flagrant history of racism combines with capitalism to lead to oppression, poverty, and neglect. oppression, poverty, and neglect leads to crime.  the ruling classes in a capitalist society dont even mind this, they live in gated communities, they lock people up and exploit them for free labor, thats all good and fine and doesnt threaten their status at the top of society.  it's not really all that complicated but i guess it's not the preferred explanation for the broke brained racist man's mind

SUPPORTING EVIDENCE

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okay and we've already talked about why that might be, maybe we should fix that capitalism and oppression and racism stuff instead of blaming the people suffering the consequences

have you ever been to any of these abandoned areas, wastelands full of boarded up and crumbling rowhomes, the utter desolation festering there right in the middle of these cities?

([url]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/02/article-2408624-1B8BA853000005DC-231_964x603.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.acting-man.com/blog/media/2016/02/baltimore-3-1024x768.jpg[/url])

i wonder why people would turn to crime here, what a mystery


tell me, does it mean the violence in st.louis is high because black people are comitting more crimes and there's lots of them? (http://[tweet)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 03:20:14 PM
Populations being neglected and abandoned and being left with few alternative opportunities will commit more crimes than places that are well-off. As I've already made this clear, you should already know exactly what my answer is, but you're making no attempt to engage with my ideas, instead insisting on dwelling on surface level contextless interpretations. 

Due to both the historical and current pattern of racism in this country, black people are widely impacted by this issue, especially in some urban areas with higher density populations.  You will find much of the same sort of thing with rural white people where the population is lower, or with native tribes. 

The primary difference in interpretation for you and me is that you like to blame the victims of these problems, while I prefer to blame the systems and biases that cause the problems.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 03:22:05 PM

The primary difference in interpretation for you and me is that you like to blame the victims of these problems, while I prefer to blame the systems and biases that cause the problems.
you prefer to blame the systems and biases that cause the problem, which is NIGGERS ARE VIOLENT! yesssss!
the mystery is revealed. its because of niggers!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 03:23:54 PM
and no, this is not a contextless interpretation, this is the sole reason why this thread exists! we needed to unveil this secret, now we can jump to interpretations, which is: why are niggers acting like violent animals and turn every nigger-town to shit
now your posts fit, you see?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 03:24:28 PM
In conclusion, good things and good people are smart and right, and bigoted people who blame the victims of poverty for their suffering are dumb and wrong. Helping people is good and racism is bad. To put it in the simplest terms: I'm smart and I'm right and you are wrong and foolish.  Thank you.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 03:25:43 PM

The primary difference in interpretation for you and me is that you like to blame the victims of these problems, while I prefer to blame the systems and biases that cause the problems.
you prefer to blame the systems and biases that cause the problem, which is NIGGERS ARE VIOLENT! yesssss!
the mystery is revealed. its because of niggers!

Race is not a system, although racism is.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 03:28:12 PM
God made people. Each human life has value because God made it and loves it.

People are sinful and corrupt, as is plainly obvious from looking around at how messed up and broken this world is.

It's not limited to any group of people. All people are sinful. All people are loved by God. All the sins of all people were paid for by Jesus' death in our place.
Obviously this is all true.  But belief in evolution and science doesn't necessitate the belief that some races are less evolved and less valuable, just saying.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 03:29:06 PM
blaming the victims? that will be all those people murdered by niggers? ah, you mean the other victims that rob the stores and kill people?
im not necessarily blaming them, i dont know the personalized story of tyrone the murderer, i was just trying to establish a simple, mathematical fact. now its done.

1. whats the mystery of st.louis violence? niggers
2. why are nigger violent? only one post so far, and its yours. stop kicking poor straw men
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 03:32:29 PM
now we can take care of your ignorance regarding the chicken and egg paradox. are violent niggers the cause, or the result of abandoned neighbourhoods?
look, some evil corporations are even trying to feed poor niggers, but they needed some extra protection (similar to chimpanzees at the zoo)
BULLET PROOF GLASS AT WEST SIDE DETROIT MCDONALDS - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUB2RH5S6wY#)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 04:01:04 PM
It's not even slightly a chicken and egg situation when I can point out the historical fact that black people were kidnapped from Africa and brought to this continent by force where they were sold as property and used as slaves.  They were never treated equally here, and there was even a war to protect the institution of slavery that many southern whites still romanticize.  Even when the slaves were freed, they couldn't vote and didn't have equal rights.  They were literally banned from moving into better neighborhoods and when that was put to an end "white flight" began.  This is all fact.  The Civil Rights Act prohibiting discrimination didn't even come to pass until 1964.  Do you seriously have trouble understanding why black people might be more likely to live in poverty than other people now, or do you just prefer to be racist?  Do you actually think you're doing logical deductive reasoning here: crime rate says rate of crime is higher with this race, therefore this race is more violent?  Because that's not how logic works, and correlation not meaning causation is something even children learn.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122484215 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122484215)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redlining)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
Funny, one of the landmark legal cases of racial discrimination was from St. Louis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_v._Kraemer
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
claw as a mentally challenged person shouldn't denigrate his mongoloid class by spewing slurs against them. very self-destructive, yes.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
crime rate says rate of crime is higher with this race, therefore this race is more violent?  Because that's not how logic works, and correlation not meaning causation is something even children learn.
"correlation not meaning causation" is what i tried to point out in your reasoning, as for "crime rate says rate of crime is higher with this race, therefore this race is more violent", i said niggers commit more crimes. thats a fact. is it genetic predisposion? or environmental/system issue? i never assumed anything in this thread! you're trying to make me sound racist here
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 04:25:32 PM
claw as a mentally challenged person shouldn't denigrate his mongoloid class by spewing slurs against them. very self-destructive, yes.
whats your source on this?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 04:27:21 PM
now we can take care of your ignorance regarding the chicken and egg paradox. are violent niggers the cause, or the result of abandoned neighbourhoods?
look, some evil corporations are even trying to feed poor niggers, but they needed some extra protection (similar to chimpanzees at the zoo)
BULLET PROOF GLASS AT WEST SIDE DETROIT MCDONALDS - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUB2RH5S6wY#[/url])


I'm subscribed to that guy's channel and watch all the videos. Amerikkkan government treats predominate black areas with extreme neglect.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 13, 2017, 04:29:41 PM
you're trying to make me sound racist here
You do that on your own.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 13, 2017, 04:38:20 PM
now we can take care of your ignorance regarding the chicken and egg paradox. are violent niggers the cause, or the result of abandoned neighbourhoods?
look, some evil corporations are even trying to feed poor niggers, but they needed some extra protection (similar to chimpanzees at the zoo)
BULLET PROOF GLASS AT WEST SIDE DETROIT MCDONALDS - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUB2RH5S6wY#[/url])


I'm subscribed to that guy's channel and watch all the videos. Amerikkkan government treats predominate black areas with extreme neglect.

ah, so mcdonald's is amerikkkan government. muricans much smart
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
extreme government neglect that led to infrastructure degradation that led to poverty that led to crime that led to this particular mcdonalds restaurant needing extra protection.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2017, 07:37:24 PM
This whole argument about socialism essentially say's,
"I am here. I am breathing. Give me money. You have an obligation to care for me."

The whole premise for capitalism  essentially says,
"I will starve if I do not give you a good or service that you want."

Inequity does not equal equality.
Equal opportunity will exist without equal outcome. 
There is nothing wrong with some people being rich and some people being poor.
Some people are rich and some people are poor.
The fact is throughout humanities existence there has been some form of income inequality for whatever reason. It could be some people have a better skill set, some people work harder, or some people provide a set of services which more people want to purchase.
Bill gates has provided more services than the local corner store. More people purchase his services and he engages in more voluntary transactions.

We all have equal rights. Some people are smart some people are stupid. Some are tall and some are short.
There is a lot of inequality in life but that doesn't mean some inequity has take place.
 
It is not inequity that the NBA is largely black. It is not inequity that the NBA is largely tall. It is not inequity that the NBA is largely full of athletically skilled people. That is the standard for being in the NBA.
It is not inequity for people who are smarter to earn more money thru providing more services.

To say that these inequalities have to be rectified thru the great god of government makes no sense. To say that all we need is Bernie Sanders or some other politician to come down from the sky and take money from one group and give it to another group in order to rectify these inequalities is ludicrous at best.

Tell me something when does inequality actually end? In other words at what point is there enough income equality that we as a society are ok?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 13, 2017, 07:38:46 PM
You do realize a black person is 18.5x more likely to be killed by another black person than by a cop.

https://youtu.be/UQCQFH5wOJo
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 13, 2017, 08:10:29 PM
do you think tora educating himself on ben shapiro and prageru videos made him this dumb or that he was attracted to that infantile discourse already because of how dumb he is?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 01:39:44 AM
ben shapiro's got some gewd points there about single mommies. other than that, hes a jewish ultra conservative, so heh
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 14, 2017, 07:54:13 AM
If evolution is true, which teaches that white people are more evolved, and that black people are more ape-like and less human, then racism is the natural result.

... umm, not wanting to open that can of worms again, but the theory of evolution says no such thing.

It absolutely does not say that any race is "more evolved" than any other.

It absolutely does not say that any race evolved from any other race.


It says that we all evolved from the same ancestors then spread out and evolved differently as isolated communities.

Perhaps you are getting this impression from anthropological studies suggesting that the first homo-sapiens first appeared on the African continent. That is simply the geographical location where we are most likely to find the remains of early men buried.

The homo-sapien population that remained on the African continent has continued to evolve at the same rate as the parts of it that migrated to other continents.

Living on a piece of land that has very old bones buried under it doesn't stop evolution.

.... so if you don't want to believe it that's your choice but please get it right.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 09:51:26 AM
If evolution is true, which teaches that white people are more evolved, and that black people are more ape-like and less human, then racism is the natural result.

... umm, not wanting to open that can of worms again, but the theory of evolution says no such thing.

It absolutely does not say that any race is "more evolved" than any other.

It absolutely does not say that any race evolved from any other race.


It says that we all evolved from the same ancestors then spread out and evolved differently as isolated communities.

Perhaps you are getting this impression from anthropological studies suggesting that the first homo-sapiens first appeared on the African continent. That is simply the geographical location where we are most likely to find the remains of early men buried.

The homo-sapien population that remained on the African continent has continued to evolve at the same rate as the parts of it that migrated to other continents.

Living on a piece of land that has very old bones buried under it doesn't stop evolution.

.... so if you don't want to believe it that's your choice but please get it right.

while its true, african noggers also had a relatively easy time, not requiring any adaptation - build random houses from shit, its always warm and chill - no need for innovation, breed enough to have at least a couple of kids not dead from malaria/eaten by lions
those conditions did not require much intellect hence less impact on brain development --> lower IQ on average
blessing in a short run, curse in a long run
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 14, 2017, 10:20:03 AM
fuck off racist
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 10:45:58 AM
if you want to be treated like human beings, learn to accept the numbers. otherwise, you will be just... lefties and sjws
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 14, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Say what you wanna say about black people but ive never seen them do this.


https://apple.news/AMT-ygYbJR02pDgHvf_7iJw
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 14, 2017, 12:05:11 PM
if you want to be treated like human beings, learn to accept the numbers. otherwise, you will be just... lefties and sjws
You think you're making very rigid and logical arguments, but you're completely failing in exactly that respect.  I'm not denying whatever numbers you're looking at, because I don't care, because the question you should be asking is why are crime rates high among these black populations, which is the exact question I've repeatedly been addressing.  Asked and answered.  We should be done here.

When you over and over again attempt to pivot to the question "so, why are black people violent" that's a weasel tactic smuggling in the presumption that because there's a correlation there is causation, that because there's violence in these urban black communities, that it's black people as a group that are violent, as opposed to, say, people who have lived through generations of poverty with few economic opportunities.  That's not bravely taking a "race realist" stance, it's just failing to understand how arguments work for the sake of being racist.

And on that note, it's not brave to proudly wear your badge of racism and to dehumanize black people with the word "nigger" and with comparisons to zoos and chimps.  It's just disgusting.  It's you trying to push gross prejudices against an entire race of people, and it exposes you as a cruel and ugly person.  I shouldn't be acknowledging you at all if you're going to do that because it's completely unacceptable.  Fuck you bitch
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 12:13:24 PM
you sound almost poetic whereas I am a realist, i prefer to analyze. i look at numbers and accept them. THE NUMBERS should be shaping your world view, instead you made up your own, biased view from the fantasy world and ignore the real numbers
" I'm not denying whatever numbers you're looking at, because I don't care"

The entire threads point was "the crime rates are high because there's more niggers there". it's a true statement. could it be ignorant? define 'ignorant', it certainly isnt looking at the case from all the angles. but from the first reply onwards, youre fighting things that i've never said

"dehumanize black people with the word "nigger" "
they are calling themselves that and we, as liberals, believe in equality. as for "there's a correlation there is causation", i merely remarked upon this fact to make sure you're aware. instead, you - again - are attacking things i've never said. All i said is that we should keep our eyes open, because correlations are tricky
you, unlike jon, basically acknowledged the answer to our mystery from the thread title, so we're pals. gimie a hug, nigga
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 12:14:29 PM
admin please mark this thread as [SOLVED]
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 14, 2017, 12:18:42 PM
the numbers do shape my worldview, they tell me that places with low income, places with high poverty, lend themselves to more crime.  of course they would, these people are desperate and don't have the social structures that better off places have, so it's basic common sense that when things are failing there won't be the same polite order.  you allegedly use numbers to shape your worldview too, but your reasoning is reductive, you just say "black people" instead of choosing to focus on deeper causes and reasons, because you see the world in terms of race, because, well, you're a nazi.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 14, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
the numbers do shape my worldview, they tell me that places with low income, places with high poverty, lend themselves to more crime.  of course they would, these people are desperate and don't have the social structures that better off places have, so it's basic common sense that when things are failing there won't be the same polite order.
this is why we need an economic system that doesnt leave so many people behind.  this is why we need racial justice, this is why we need solidarity between peoples, this is why we need a better world.  this thread wont be marked [SOLVED] until that happens, but ill happily continue to report to you various additional examples in furtherance of this point. maybe someday youll become smart like me
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 14, 2017, 12:59:00 PM
you sound almost poetic whereas I am a realist, i prefer to analyze. i look at numbers and accept them. THE NUMBERS should be shaping your world view, instead you made up your own, biased view from the fantasy world and ignore the real numbers
" I'm not denying whatever numbers you're looking at, because I don't care"

The entire threads point was "the crime rates are high because there's more niggers there". it's a true statement. could it be ignorant? define 'ignorant', it certainly isnt looking at the case from all the angles. but from the first reply onwards, youre fighting things that i've never said

"dehumanize black people with the word "nigger" "
they are calling themselves that and we, as liberals, believe in equality. as for "there's a correlation there is causation", i merely remarked upon this fact to make sure you're aware. instead, you - again - are attacking things i've never said. All i said is that we should keep our eyes open, because correlations are tricky
you, unlike jon, basically acknowledged the answer to our mystery from the thread title, so we're pals. gimie a hug, nigga


what the fuck is this! "herr derr le logical numbers me so smaht" haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 14, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
"who teh fuck cares that i've never talked to a black person before and have no real world experience and the only people i listen to are non-expert white supremacists, the posted some numbers and it's mathematical and shit, LE LOGIC"
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 14, 2017, 01:02:54 PM
"why the fuck are these liberals SJW KIKE NIGGERS CALLING ME A RACIST FOR? I'M A REALIST, OVER ON STORMFRONT THEY POSTED SOME NUMBERS ABOUT NIGGERS BEING VIOLENT, THAT'S REALISM NOT RACISM LE LOGICAL STEM LORD BEEPBOOOP"
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 01:03:42 PM
"who teh fuck cares that i've never talked to a black person before and have no real world experience and the only people i listen to are non-expert white supremacists, the posted some numbers and it's mathematical and shit, LE LOGIC"
whats your source on this?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 01:04:08 PM
i sense that someone was triggered
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 14, 2017, 01:14:01 PM
"who teh fuck cares that i've never talked to a black person before and have no real world experience and the only people i listen to are non-expert white supremacists, the posted some numbers and it's mathematical and shit, LE LOGIC"
whats your source on this?

your posts lol
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 14, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
not good enuff. provide better source
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 14, 2017, 04:36:33 PM
@eyyy im walkin here
@Lambchops

You may be unaware of the full title of Darwin's 1859 publication:

The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection—or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life

(https://i.imgur.com/MoUK9Rt.jpg)

Charles Darwin wrote in a letter:

"I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilization than you seem inclined to admit.... The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world."

Thomas Huxley (aka "Darwin's Bulldog" and evolution promoter) wrote:

"No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favour, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried out by thoughts and not by bites."

In his book "Descent of Man," Darwin talks about different races being different species (than humans), and refers to people like pygmies as "lower organisms" and certain people groups as "savage" and "low."

Evolution and racism go hand in hand.

The acceptance of Darwinism led to the eugenics movement in Germany that sought to eliminate all "impure" and "lower" (less evolved) races from contaminating the Aryan race and led to the slaughter of millions of people, not only Jews, but also many others including Christians who opposed the evils that were being carried out.


The Bible leaves no room for racism:

Acts 17:24-43 (NKJV):

24 “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. 26 And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”

32 And when they heard of the resurrection of the dead, some mocked, while others said, “We will hear you again on this matter.” 33 So Paul departed from among them. 34 However, some men joined him and believed, among them Dionysius the Areopagite, a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

All people in the world are descended from the first two people God made, Adam and Eve.

The concept of "race" isn't even in the Bible. People are people. Each one is loved by God and precious to Him.

The divisions and animosity that separate us today are our own doing as sinful people.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 14, 2017, 04:46:17 PM
i agree that the bible is less racist than old dead guys like charles darwin but i dont feel any part of believing in evolution requires one to be racist.  i acknowledge that "race science" and eugenics programs and other evils purport to be scientific, as did the nazis, and i recognize the dangers of this, but it doesn't make me disbelieve evolution.  certain religious people use the bible to justify hate as well, and theyre wrong, just like people who use science to justify racism and hate.  God is good.  we need communism

Quote from: [url]http://www.salon.com/2015/06/13/the_bibles_racist_monstrosities_how_the_word_of_god_has_been_%E2%80%94_and_still_is_%E2%80%94_used_to_oppress/[/url]
Creative interpretation of the early stories in Genesis justified abuse of the hapless African. Christian slave owners in the United States operated within a tradition that provided biblical justification for owning slaves in the same way that one owned horses. The arguments were manifold. Did not the Ten Commandments instruct us not to “covet our neighbor’s manservant (= slave)”? Did not Abraham have slaves? Didn’t Paul return a runaway slave to his master? Why didn’t Jesus condemn the widespread slavery in the Roman world?

The mark of Cain offered further justification for slavery. In Genesis 4 we read of God placing a “mark” on Cain for murdering his brother and lying about it when God asked what had happened. As early as the fifth century Cain’s curse was interpreted as black skin. When the Northern and Southern Baptists split in 1845 over the issue of slavery, Southern Baptists were using Cain’s curse to justify slavery.

A human marked with black skin, however, is still a human. The most pernicious claims were those denying Adamic ancestry of blacks implying they have no souls.

An elaborate argument put forth by the Southern clergyman the Reverend Buckner Payne, in his widely read tract “The Negro: What Is His Ethnological Status” (1867), illustrates the uses of biblical literalism and proof-texting to support this kind of claim.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 14, 2017, 06:07:58 PM
The topic du jour is racism.

You've brought in slavery into the mix, which certainly has significant overlap with racism in recent history, but is by and large its own topic.

Historically, slavery was often an economic situation rather than one based on skin color. For example, a person who could not pay his debts could become a slave. Doctors, lawyers, and politicians could be someone else's slaves. Slaves were often taken from nations that were conquered, and this also was not a skin color issue. There are many different degrees and types of slavery. We all belong to something or someone and have duties to carry out. In some way or other, we are all slaves. Treating another person harshly and inflicting pain without due cause is obviously wrong, whether it's an employee, a child, a slave, or anyone else one is in authority over. The word slave today conjures up images of abuse, whipping, overworking, and treatment not befitting a human being, but slave as we read it today could also mean a person who is contractually working for another, who may be making a wage, who is being treated with respect

The Bible says to treat other people as one would want to be treated, and that all people are God's beloved creations to be treated with love and respect, therefore if anyone is attempting to misuse the Bible to promote slavery, they are ignoring foundational truths and are in error.

The Bible is also a book of history that tells what people did. Reporting factual occurrences is not synonymous with promoting the acts referred to.

I glanced at the book you mentioned by Buckner Payne, and he starts with the premise that black people are not descended from Adam and Eve "because Adam and Eve were white and couldn't produce black offspring." Of course they are descended from Adam and Eve.

I don't think Adam and Eve were white, but a medium with diverse genetic capacity.

Both black and white children can be produced from the same parents as seen in the case of the beautiful family of Remi Horder and Kylie Hodgson in 2006:

(https://i.imgur.com/IWN7QWh.jpg)

Payne's claims are nonsense. They are neither scientific nor Biblical, and don't even deserve to be mentioned.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 14, 2017, 10:50:36 PM
@BabyShark

Charles Darwin was not a cult leader. Nor was he infallible, or a messiah. Like most men of his time, I'm sure he was more than a little bit racist.

The scientifically accepted theory of evolution is not "Darwinism". Darwin did not invent the concepts of evolution and natural selection, nor did he have the last word on them, he was simply the first modern western man to write them down and present it as a scientific theory.

Various ideas on evolution (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_evolutionary_thought) date back as far as there are records on such things i.e. the ancient Greek philosophers.

Finding individual lines in old texts and interpreting them to support one viewpoint or another is a religious method not a scientific one.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 14, 2017, 11:41:05 PM
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,3199.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,3199.0.html)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 04:53:53 AM
idk why anyone would 1) mix religion into the debate 2) consider religion/bible a valid argument

slavery was invented in other cultures than whites, they merely adapted it. they didnt catch the free niggers, they were buying slaves from the village chiefs. the act of enslavement, unlike in muzlim cultures, was performed on niggers by niggers. OTOH, children of slaves were also slaves, which was 'wrong'. how can one say "XXX people fought for slavery to remain", completely missing that YYY people fought for slavery to end. even funnier because confederates were outnumbered like what, 4-fold? if anything, that's argument against blids thesis, not for it. anyway, a reasonable person shouldnt use it at all. actually, i've only heard it from overweight black women that were caught stealing things from walmart until now
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 15, 2017, 09:42:24 AM
" they were buying slaves from the village chiefs"

imagine being this dumb and thinking the chiefs had any choice in the matter.

the reality is nothing comes close to the sheer brutality and magnitude of the atlantic slave trade.

Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 11:13:55 AM
imagine thinking poland is a shithole because of capitalism, which we "have" since '89
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 15, 2017, 11:41:37 AM
the entire world is a shithole because of capitalism.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 12:07:47 PM
so instead of comparing something to something, you prefer to compare everything to nothing.
east germany vs west germany? capitalist conspiracy, sources unclear
east poland vs west poland (different occupation blocks)? capitalist conspiracy, sources unclear
capitalist country vs communist country? capitalist conspiracy, sources unclear

even (dw)ogre from this forum is way smarter than you, and if we took the dumbest nigger from africa and evil~ryu homeschooled him, he would ace you in every test
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 15, 2017, 12:11:18 PM
 i'm a well read smart guy, you're a racist retard where the simplest nuances evade you. i wonder who'll have a better grasp on the facts.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
i'm a well read smart guy, you're a racist retard where the simplest nuances evade you. i wonder who'll have a better grasp on the facts.
whats your source on this? sry not good enough, .ru sites cannot be trusted
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 15, 2017, 03:26:09 PM
Religion or worldview is already in every debate as every person's foundation that informs their opinions on all matters of life.

The Bible is the source of truth and wisdom, from which we learn where we came from, who we are, why we're here, and what happens to us when we die. A person's refusal to accept this does not in any way lessen its truth.

Evolution is also a religious worldview that is pushed and taught and held to with religious conviction by its proponents.

All evidence that does not fit the evolutionists' agenda is intentionally hidden. Giant human skeletons in large numbers are among the hidden evidence because they do not fit their concocted fable.

Evolution is outside of logic and outside of science.

It is not rational to conclude that highly complex, clearly designed things that fill our world came about by accident or random chance over billions of years (time supposedly fixes all logic problems here) following the unexplained, unobserved explosion of nothingness. People are welcome to believe it and invent fanciful tale after fanciful tale to try to explain away the countless credibility issues with these nothing-to-everything-by-itself notions, but it is simply a gross misrepresentation to call it science.

It is a religion through and through. You have to believe impossible, unseen things like the explosion of nothing that created an ordered universe (breaks scientific laws including the law of entropy) and the genesis of life from non-living material (which also breaks scientific laws of life: all life comes from pre-existing life).

If people are taught that they are animals, is it any wonder that they act like it?

Even animals can figure out what gender they are, though.

The world has turned its back on God and chooses to pursue evil. The end is coming and we are all going to be punished, every one of us. Unless we have someone who stepped in to take our punishment instead, which we do. Jesus is the only way to be saved from the punishment we as sinners have earned.

Racism is an evil attitude, and it is definitely a logical consequence of the evolutionistic worldview as has been shown historically if one cares to discover the truth about it.

Planned Parenthood (huge abortion provider) was founded by Margaret Sanger, an ardent evolutionist whose objective was to rid the world of black human beings to help along evolution. Planned Parenthood was set up to kill black babies. Now they are happy to slaughter any child for a price. This is all evil.

None of us have a right to think ourselves superior to others, for whether we were given more intelligence or health or beauty or wealth than another, we have nothing which we were not given.

You, CLAW, need to repent of your evil racist attitude and realize that the same God that made you made all people.

Polish people were among the people that were targetted by the Darwinian eugenics movement in Germany. Would you like to be treated the way Germans treated their victims? Would you like to be singled out for hatred and destruction? Neither does anyone else.

You imply that violence is bad. If evolution is true, it isn't bad. Nothing is or can be truly bad if we are all just random collections of atoms that happened along by accident.

Violence is bad. But what else is bad is your hateful and arrogant attitude. Your words against blacks can hurt people much the same way physical violence can. Spurring on hate is spurring on violence. It's somewhat implied in your remarks that black people are a problem and they should be killed or exterminated or whatever would be your solution for it. Just because you aren't holding a gun and shooting people doesn't mean your words of hate don't live and breathe the same poison of wanting to hurt, destroy, or eliminate other people.





Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 03:47:52 PM
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Evolution is also a religious worldview

Evolution is outside of logic and outside of science.
aah, so youre also retarded
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 15, 2017, 04:44:09 PM
claw, she's not retarded, it's just that her priorities obviously weigh religion above objective thought esp re traditionally vilified subjects like evolution.  sort of like how to you no logic is more important than being racist, and like how for me vigorous thought is paramount so i study things with a good heart and a clear mind and become correct about them.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 15, 2017, 04:45:17 PM

You, CLAW, need to repent of your evil racist attitude and realize that the same God that made you made all people.


owned
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 05:09:04 PM
religion is irrelevant in discussion and holds no weight. even our jewish friend ben shapiro realized that, and hes super ultra conservative
retarded commies and theists, geez
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 15, 2017, 05:09:49 PM
EVERY man naturally desires knowledge; but what good is knowledge without fear of God? Indeed a humble rustic who serves God is better than a proud intellectual who neglects his soul to study the course of the stars. He who knows himself well becomes mean in his own eyes and is not happy when praised by men.

If I knew all things in the world and had not charity, what would it profit me before God Who will judge me by my deeds?

Shun too great a desire for knowledge, for in it there is much fretting and delusion. Intellectuals like to appear learned and to be called wise. Yet there are many things the knowledge of which does little or no good to the soul, and he who concerns himself about other things than those which lead to salvation is very unwise.

Many words do not satisfy the soul; but a good life eases the mind and a clean conscience inspires great trust in God.

The more you know and the better you understand, the more severely will you be judged, unless your life is also the more holy. Do not be proud, therefore, because of your learning or skill. Rather, fear because of the talent given you. If you think you know many things and understand them well enough, realize at the same time that there is much you do not know. Hence, do not affect wisdom, but admit your ignorance. Why prefer yourself to anyone else when many are more learned, more cultured than you?

If you wish to learn and appreciate something worth while, then love to be unknown and considered as nothing. Truly to know and despise self is the best and most perfect counsel. To think of oneself as nothing, and always to think well and highly of others is the best and most perfect wisdom. Wherefore, if you see another sin openly or commit a serious crime, do not consider yourself better, for you do not know how long you can remain in good estate. All men are frail, but you must admit that none is more frail than yourself.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 15, 2017, 05:11:21 PM
its so easy to be completely right here. damn my world view owns, no wonder im so super intelligent
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 16, 2017, 03:19:27 AM
This is a really hard discussion.

On one hand, a religious zealot who doesn't understand science but insists on rationalizing it as being invalid for fear that it may invalidate their faith.

On the other hand someone who has based their sense of self on the sad fact that another culture deemed their culture to be sub-human.

In the first case I can say only this. Don't be afraid of science, it does not invalidate your faith. The words in the bible were spoken thousands of years ago. They were spoken in such a way that the minds of those ancient people could understand them. Surely the mind of GOD must contain the entire universe so no man could ever understand it. Surely any communication between GOD and a man must be the simplest of translations of the tiniest fragments of GOD's plan? No part of science denys faith or GOD. Look for the message in the bible and apply it to the real world around you. You don't need to trapped by today's literal equivalent of words that were in the first place akin to a wise elder speaking to a pet, and then repeated and translated by many men over many years. If you were GOD how would you have explained the mysteries of the universe to a peasant 2000 years ago? Not an easy task.

... and for our racist friend, here is the problem:

At some level you think the nazis were right. You are suffering from some sort of cultural Stockholm Syndrome. It seems that you were hit so hard with the nazi stick that it broke you. Now you spend your days trying to point to some other culture and argue that it is even more sub-human than your own.

By pointing at another culture and saying "it's not us, look at them", you are just proving that you are still 100% pwnt by the nazis. I suggest to you that you should realise that the entire concept of declaring groups of people to be sub-human is evil, and as long as you do so you are just trying to place your self-image higher on the nazi scale. Only when you stop trying to impress them will you be healed. Good luck.


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Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 03:48:24 AM
all that because everyone except for me and blid fear to look at the numbers and say this out loud - niggers commit more crimes as an ethnic group
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 16, 2017, 05:18:26 AM
all that because everyone except for me and blid fear to look at the numbers and say this out loud - niggers commit more crimes as an ethnic group

A) You have not at all demonstrated this.

B) Why are you devoting so much of your time to trying to demonstrate it? Why is it so important to you to be able to justify looking down on another group of people? (now re-read my previous).


Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 05:58:14 AM
its a number like any other. some numbers are accepted, some are frowned up/ignored if it doesnt fit an (nearly religious) agenda. sometimes you even get called a nazi
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 16, 2017, 08:56:41 AM
its a number like any other. some numbers are accepted, some are frowned up/ignored if it doesnt fit an (nearly religious) agenda. sometimes you even get called a nazi

not by me. read again.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 16, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
@Lambchops

You said no part of science denies faith or God. I would agree with that statement.

Your assumption that man of the past was stupid and modern man is smart is completely false, however.

Look no further than these W2 forums to witness multiple modern specimens and their barely literate ramblings.

Then consider that the pyramids were built using methods that modern man cannot even figure out.

Consider that all the luxuries, machines, inventions, and discoveries were made by man that came before us.

Just because today's people know how to flip a light switch or turn a key in a car ignition doesn't indicate intelligence greater than the ones that actually devised these machines.

Another indicator of devolution instead of the "progress" many want to believe has been taking place is language.

Language in the past was far more complex than language today. Language is devolving. Complexity is being lost. Evolutionists do not have reasonable answer for the evolution of language and how languages came to be.

Biblically, we know Adam and Eve were created and given language and speech. Then at the Tower of Babel, God infused mankind with a multitude of languages so they would be unable to complete their tower of glory due to not being able to understand each other and so they would spread out.

Lambchops, you sit perched in this idea that evolution is scientific. I am not talking about variation within created kinds such as the fact that dogs produce a variety of dogs, horses produce a variety of horses, roses produce a variety of roses etc.

I'm talking about one kind of animal turning into another kind of animal, or an animal producing something other than its own kind of animal, which has NEVER been observed.

It is a matter of belief in the impossible and unscientific.

There is no mechanism in DNA that allows for the addition of NEW information. The scrambling or distortion of existing information happens (mutations) and this is always bad for the creature in question. Having an arm where an arm shouldn't be isn't progress.

There is no mechanism for new information to be added. So for example, a cow can't be born with insect wings because the genetic material is simply not there.

There is also no mechanism that supports the kind of changes evolutionists insist have happened in real life.

Like the notion that cows went back to the water (after evolving from fish) to become dolphins and whales.

Think of the cow standing on the shore, wanting to go for a good long swim. How many times does the cow have to drown before some unknown force inside the cow says let's rearrange my lungs so the blowhole is on top of my head and let's drop off my legs and fur and change my body shape so I can swim better?

If an animal is surviving fine, what would prompt a change (even if such a mechanism existed, which it doesn't)?

If an animal dies, are we going to assume its kids will know how it died, and magically physically morph new traits to prevent the same kind of death?

Just because a cow can produce a variety of cows doesn't prove they can birth dolphins.

So other than just rolling your eyes and acting superior like science is on the side of the nonsensical theory of evolution, bring out your best evidence for one kind of animal turning into another kind of animal, specifically cows to dolphins would be ideal.

And when you have that covered, explain why you think an unobserved explosion of nothing that supposedly happened billions of years ago and created everything we see in the universe is in any way a part if science (which by defenition includes things we can observe, test, study, repeat).



Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 09:27:12 AM
its a number like any other. some numbers are accepted, some are frowned up/ignored if it doesnt fit an (nearly religious) agenda. sometimes you even get called a nazi

not by me. read again.
no you read again. post by post!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 11:59:12 AM
claw's thinking: looks at crime stats in st.louis sees they are high, looks at demographics and sees blacks slightly outnumber whites in the city, concludes blacks are violent.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 12:15:39 PM
claw's thinking: looks at crime stats in st.louis sees they are high, looks at demographics and sees blacks slightly outnumber whites in the city, concludes blacks are violent.
hey dont forget this is the second mystery we're revealing. we have experience
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 12:24:58 PM
the only mystery is how you function in life  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 16, 2017, 12:38:59 PM
Claw you're ignoring everything else and fixating on one thing, to the exclusion of common sense.

The foundational belief that paves the road for racism is evolution, and that falsehood has been thoroughly debunked a thousand times over.

You just repeat endlessly "black people violent black people violent you retard black people violent black people violent you retard".

I have a niece who was brain damaged likely from oxygen deprivation during birth who is, in effect, truly mentally retarded. She is overall a sweet and happy girl but repeats the same things over and over and over again. "Are you okay? Are you okay? Where did you buy that? Where did you buy that? Are you okay?" She never remembers the answers and goes on asking the same questions year after year.

Your behaviour looks to me very similar to hers, only she is sweet and nice and not locked in hate mode.

If you really don't have the mental faculties to have a real discussion, and it appears this is the case, then anyone who tries is just wasting time.

If evolution is not true, and it isn't, and if the world was made by God, which it was, you have nothing to stand on in your relentless hate against black people.

There are plenty of wonderful, loving, educated, hard-working black people and plenty of drug-addicted, violent, destructive, criminal white people.

Making it about skin color is missing the big picture and the truth that ALL people are sinful and prone to hurting others.

You yourself are being "violent" and hateful with your words, showing that your behaviour is no better than anyone else's.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 02:43:08 PM
If evolution is not true, and it isn't, and if the world was made by God, which it was
lol


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You just repeat endlessly "black people violent black people violent you retard black people violent black people violent you retard".
until its necessary and everyone grasps the concept. if anything, it speaks more about my listeners than myself

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You yourself are being "violent" and hateful with your words, showing that your behaviour is no better than anyone else's.
ah so you just compared niggers killing people to posts on war2 forum - flame wars section. yep, youre a tard
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 03:47:34 PM
babyshark doens't even believe in evolution and still is more right than you
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 03:49:49 PM
racist and believes in evolution
claw

doesnt believe in evolution, but isnt racist
babyshark

believes in evolution, also against racism
blid
lamb
jon

lets survey they rest of the community.  we still have an empty category

racist, doesnt believe in evolution
???
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 04:13:19 PM
as babyshark mentioned, the only thing i do is repeat the statistical facts and truths over and over. if you think pointing facts makes me a racist or a nazi, it basically proves my point - numbers speak against you, dont fit your agenda so you pick up random SJW word and throw it at me
those words may work in the media, but hold no meaning here

its good that we've finally reached the understanding - according to statistics, niggers are more violent
so far we had two contributors that explained why NIGGERS are more VIOLENT - blidused slavery+institutional racism combo. babyshark used vague interpretation of evolution process  (which she doesnt even believe in), so I think blid is winning for now and niggers got his back
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 04:22:07 PM
I know youre racist becaiuse you constantly use racist words, make racist comments, and draw racist conclusions from whatever statistics youre reviewing.  At least have the honesty to admit youre a raging racist my man. 

Anyway a population of people with higher crime rates being black does not prove blcak people are more violent, it does not prove violence is a characteristic of the color of their skin, which weve discussed endlessly, but you keep repeating it, so youre a hopeless case. you hold fast to the most simple-minded conclusion possible and pretend it's backed by evidence or logic when we already know it isnt.  id probably have better luck arguing with the religious fundamentalist about evolution, you are ugly down to your very soul and resist redemption with all your heart
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 04:26:07 PM
Let's perform an exorcism on Claw

Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 04:42:09 PM
it does not prove violence is a characteristic of the color of their skin
why are you pretending the incrimination rate+skin colour isnt a known fact in the us, how can you even write such nonsense lol
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 04:48:52 PM
alright you can see yourself out thanks

Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 04:53:35 PM
the only thing i do is repeat the statistical facts and truths over and over.
you misinterpret stats and omit other factors of crime like poverty, in an attempt to justify being a racist.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 16, 2017, 05:11:38 PM
poverty? does that change color of the skin? no, but it can be a factor CONTRIBUTING to the NIGGER VIOLENCE, yes. you're not afraid of making statements such as "niggers suffer more poverty" i suppose? its the same thing if you think about it like a reasonable person and not a leftie
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
I know claw is racist cause he has never touched a black women before and probably never will.
He would rather stick with white women whom may I add all wear padded bras that make it look like they have a rack. But once the bra come off their flat as a pancake.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 07:20:16 PM
lol wtf. generalize much?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2017, 07:21:03 PM
lol wtf. generalize much?
You have no sence of humor.

I was with a white girl the other night and had said issue in the aforementioned post happen to me. So its fresh on my mind.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 16, 2017, 07:33:35 PM
lol wtf. generalize much?
You have no sence of humor.

I was with a white girl the other night and had said issue in the aforementioned post happen to me. So its fresh on my mind.
lmao thats the ultimate own.  you should be able to tell mate, you got gg'd like a noob
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2017, 07:44:26 PM
^^Not really. They make them women's bras good nowadays hard to tell unless you coping feels beforehand.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 08:35:22 PM
more like the  teen drama you just watched is still fresh on your mind.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2017, 09:31:28 PM
more like the  teen drama you just watched is still fresh on your mind.

If you ever make it to NYC send me a pm i'll show how great capitalism is.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
lmao nyc. this kid is a proper privileged fuckboy isn't he.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 16, 2017, 09:35:17 PM
lmao nyc. this kid is a proper privileged fuckboy isn't he.

I would rather be a "proper privleged fuckboy." Than be a broke kid living in the ghetto like you probable are.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 16, 2017, 09:35:28 PM
white cops getting acquitted for killing blacks, explain it claw.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 17, 2017, 01:20:45 AM
white cops getting acquitted for killing blacks, explain it claw.


[url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA[/url] ([url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA[/url])

what is there to explain? mistakes happen, and given that niggers commit more crimes, it happens more often with them. is there a video cap from the intervention? its hard to have an opinion with no evidence, right? at least for me :) :)

nigger love to smash store windows for literally no reason. black friday? smash windows. dindu nuffin degenerate owned by the police? smash windows. hurricane? smash windows (and rob the stores). so take this outrage with a grain of salt


https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb7_1502405948 (https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb7_1502405948)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 17, 2017, 04:00:52 AM
I know claw is racist cause he has never touched a black women before and probably never will.
yes, and you're all homophobes if you dont take it up the ass from a nice, juicy h0m0
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: Lambchops on September 17, 2017, 08:43:16 AM
@BabyShark

You said no part of science denies faith or God. I would agree with that statement.


Yay  :)  Common ground is a great place to start.


Your assumption that man of the past was stupid and modern man is smart is completely false, however.


Sorry, but that was not the point I was trying to make.

I was trying to suggest that the mind of man could not possibly contain the true thoughts of GOD as the mind of GOD must contain all the mysteries of the entire universe. So anything GOD tells man is going to be a very simplified version of what she is actually thinking.

Look no further than these W2 forums to witness multiple modern specimens and their barely literate ramblings.

LOL can't argue with that.

Language in the past was far more complex than language today. Language is devolving. Complexity is being lost.

I'm sorry, but this is not correct. Please check your sources. Many people have devoted their entire lives to studying linguistics and the evolution of languages. They are most definately becoming more complex.

Evolutionists do not have reasonable answer for the evolution of language and how languages came to be.

The development of language continues today. It is no mystery. As for it's origin, some birds have different alarm calls for "man" and "snake". There are many other well documented examples of this type of thing from animal kingdom. It stands to reason that early men developed different grunts with different meanings, and then continued to expand on this primative language the more they used it, as we still do today. The part of the brain that is responsible for language and its development are well know and have been extensively documented.

This is one of the most well studied and understood parts of human science.

Although it's true that humans have been getting smarter as we evolve, I don't imagine there would be a great deal of difference between the cognative processing ability of a modern man vs. a man 2000 years ago.

What there definately is, however, is a massive difference in the education level of an average person, and also in the collective knowledge of mankind. Most importantly language. In simplest terms modern languages contain many more words than their ancestral versions, so we can use then to communicate more complex ideas, and subtle nuances.

I'm sure that compared to the mind of GOD, the mind of a 2017AD man is just as tiny as the mind of a 500BC man. Any words that could be written down and understood today would still be nothing compated to the mind of GOD. Either way, it's still Einstein trying to explain relativity to a goldfish, the fact that one goldfish may be a little bit more advanced than another doesn't really tip the scales.

However I would think that a message written in today's language and for someone with today's knowledge, even when translated into ancient words would still be at least partially unintelligable to someone who lived 2000 years ago, because they just did not have the full range of concepts available to them that we have now.

In the same way we should view the words given to, written by and transcribed by ancient men as a copy of a copy of the best metaphor that Einstein could come up with to tell a small orange carp.

Without claiming to be particularly well versed in the bible, the Adam and Eve story seems to me to be very much involved with the gaining of self-awareness, which is a very important point in the evolution of man, for it is because we are aware of our own existance that we can be held resposible for actions, and therefore be capable of good or evil.

I don't see the old testiment as being incompatible with a time when the first humans became self-aware an discovered that they were alone in a beautiful garden. I'm sure there are many more good messages to be taken from it apart from the literal narative.

Lambchops, you sit perched in this idea that evolution is scientific. I am not talking about variation within created kinds such as the fact that dogs produce a variety of dogs, horses produce a variety of horses, roses produce a variety of roses etc.

Of course it is scientific. I have been avoiding further discussing proof of evolution, as I have already written a fair amount, (even on this specific point) in a previous topic devoted to the subject. This topic is about racism and telling claw what a tard he is. ( yay! more common ground  :) )

The process of evolution only came into it when you suggested that evolution was racist simply because some old white guys were racist.

I have also presented my personal thoughts as to why evoultion need not be considered contrary to the bible, depending on how you choose to interpret it. This is a bit off topic, but seemed relevant to the point that the conversation was up to.

There is no mechanism in DNA that allows for the addition of NEW information. The scrambling or distortion of existing information happens (mutations) and this is always bad for the creature in question. Having an arm where an arm shouldn't be isn't progress.

There is no mechanism for new information to be added.

Not always. Usually, certianly. Random mutations can and do add new genetic information, and these are almost always not an improvement, but very occasionally they are, and when this happens, we keep them.

But even apart from random mutations there are very specific tools that naturally exist to edit DNA. These are the tools that are use to create the GM stuff that scares people so much. Man did not create these things, they discovered them, worked out how they function then re-purposed them for their own goals. These are alive and functioning and part of the natural process. Whether or not you agree with scientists using them (yet another topic - not here pls) its must be noted that they are not man made. Maybe they evolved, maybe GOD made them, but man sure didn't.

So other than just rolling your eyes and acting superior like science is on the side of the nonsensical theory of evolution, bring out your best evidence for one kind of animal turning into another kind of animal, specifically cows to dolphins would be ideal.

And when you have that covered, explain why you think an unobserved explosion of nothing that supposedly happened billions of years ago and created everything we see in the universe is in any way a part if science (which by defenition includes things we can observe, test, study, repeat).

This is the most important part. There is no eye-rolling at you BabyShark. You are one of my favorite WC2 people and I would not do you the disservice. I find you to be intelligent and charming (except when you boot me lol) I only wish I could help you to understand science without feeling that it in any way diminishes your faith. I don't think it's likely that we will ever agree on this topic but that won't change my opinion of you.

The specific explainations of proofs you have requested are long and involved conversations that I will not attempt here, although if you really do want to discuss them later I would be happy to.



A final thought.

Imagine for a moment, if you would, that evolution and the big bang theory are correct, and that GOD is real.

In the beginning there was darkness then GOD spoke the word into the darkness. The word of GOD was the light, and that light was the spark that started the big-bang, and from that spark the particles evolved, and the planets evolved, and the galaxies and the plants and the animals, and mankind, just as GOD knew it would, for it was her word that created it.


Then imagine you are GOD looking down at your beautiful creation, and you see that mankind has evolved to the point where they have realised that they exist and that they are in the middle of the beautiful garden you have created for them.

What would you tell them? Would you straight up just give them the full history of the known universe then follow up by explaining, in detail, the mechanism by which life changes its form?

... or would you tell them to love their neighbour, and not to murder people, but to treat others as you would have them treat you?

It seems to me, thankfully, that GOD is not a nerd, and opted for the second choice, which is what mankind really needed to know.

So don't look for the truth of science in the bible, it's not a technical manual for nerds - GOD made nerds to work that stuff out, and perhaps GOD gave us the bible to stop everyone else from killing all the nerds when they started talking about boring science stuff.



                                                                 :critter:  With love, respect and no eye-rolling
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2017, 08:49:53 AM

[url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA[/url] ([url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-protests-erupt-in-st-louis-after-acquittal-in-police-shooting/ar-AAs1nRA[/url])

what is there to explain? mistakes happen, and given that niggers commit more crimes, it happens more often with them. is there a video cap from the intervention? its hard to have an opinion with no evidence, right? at least for me :) :)
nigger love to smash store windows for literally no reason. black friday? smash windows. dindu nuffin degenerate owned by the police? smash windows. hurricane? smash windows (and rob the stores). so take this outrage with a grain of salt



so your response to white police getting away with murdering blacks is some awkward babble about broken windows?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 17, 2017, 08:53:45 AM
lol
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2017, 11:10:02 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2017, 11:37:29 AM
Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter Supporters (Social Experiment) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL8f5iWrzN0#)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 17, 2017, 12:11:22 PM
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url] ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url])

Footage of protest turning violent:
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Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2017, 12:13:51 PM
^^What would you do if protesters blocked your street and made it impossible for you to get to work.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 17, 2017, 12:25:52 PM
Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter Supporters (Social Experiment) - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL8f5iWrzN0#[/url])

this was staged/troll
sorry :(
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 17, 2017, 01:01:55 PM
^^What would you do if protesters blocked your street and made it impossible for you to get to work.
call in to work and tell them?? catch up on some podcasts?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 17, 2017, 01:28:38 PM
(https://i.redd.it/qxro7r2c9ifz.jpg)
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 17, 2017, 04:47:16 PM
call in to work and tell them?? catch up on some podcasts?

As you are already aware. Not everyone has this option.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 18, 2017, 12:14:45 PM
Tora,

You're one of the admins. That makes you a community leader and role model of sorts. You set a pretty dishonorable example with your comments that are both racist and sexist.

Talking about women as objects does no one a service. Not yourself, not your mother, not any future daughters you may have.

Women are people with feelings, not objects to be discussed in the most vulgar of ways.

A real man protects and cherishes the women in his life (mother, daughters, sisters, friends) instead of reducing them to the sum of their physical parts (that you have no right to be enjoying if you don't even care about her).

Human beings are built to love and be loved, not use and be used. When you cheapen the most intimate physical connection possible to something cheap and lewd and gross, you are losing out on the beauty of the what it even means, taking away a girl's dignity and hurting her whether she realizes it or not, and making yourself look like a very vile person.

Maybe you're trolling or lying, I don't know. That's beside the point.

I personally find it hard to believe that any normal woman would want to touch a man who sees her as a thing. I also don't understand how paying for sex with prostitutes who perform the acts with no desire, with loathing and disgust in their heads, for the purpose of paying their bills can bring a man any pleasure, since it's not him she wants. She is doing it for the money. One study found 68% of prostitutes also have post traumatic stress disorder. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3508959/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3508959/)) It's a miserable lifestyle that desperate girls who were frequently the victims of sexual abuse as children end up in. Prostitution is slavery and abuse, alive today.

You can buy sex, but you can't buy love.

You can buy artificial loyalty as long as the money flow continues, but you can't buy friendship.

You can buy a degree, but you can't buy wisdom.

You can buy lip service, but you can't buy respect.
 

There are a lot of guys on W2 that say the most disgusting things. It's different because you're in leadership role. More is expected of you.

I believe you can be a better man than how you were acting with those kinds of disgusting comments.

It's because the forums are full of 99% garbage like that, that all the intelligent, sensible, normal people have abandoned them. I was just talking last night to someone about it on discord.

I expect more from an admin and community leader. Someone who has some honor and shows respect to other human beings instead of demeaning and degrading other people based on skin color or gender.

I'm gonna add that I myself have been on the receiving end of reproof. I say dumb things. I do bad things. I'm a sinful person, too. I think most people want the same thing...we want the world to be better. We want less hate and violence and pain, and more love and kindness and compassion. Yet sometimes we are the bringers of hate or pain and just don't see it. I have nothing against you, just your behavior has the capacity to hurt people, like the girl you mentioned if it's a true story. And even if it isn't and even bearing in mind she is unlikely to ever visit the cess pool that is the W2 forums, anti-woman remarks and attitudes still influence the minds and actions of readers.



BabyShark
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 18, 2017, 01:09:00 PM
sry but this thread is only for those who believe in evolution. start your own thread
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2017, 01:17:59 PM
this thread is in the offtopic forum!  all can talk about anything they like! 

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Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 18, 2017, 01:26:11 PM
hey BS youre a dumb whore, go away and start your own thread? or are you admitting that my creation is far better than yours (or any woman's) will ever be? geez leeching even on a thread. just proves the point that men are super smarter than women!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2017, 02:13:43 PM
^the most boring troll post of all time
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 18, 2017, 02:21:45 PM
well the next step is posting NSFW pics so u cheer for me whore
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2017, 02:29:48 PM
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url] ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url])

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Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 18, 2017, 02:56:02 PM
If someone wishes to insult me, please, by all means, carry on!

I do ask, however, that those wishing to take a jab at me, please do so with at the very least some slight measure of creativity, intelligence, wit, or humor, so as to prevent accidentally insulting yourself with your attempt.

That takes me out of a job!

I'm also going to include some stress relief music that's peaceful and soothing to help you relax:

4 hours Peaceful & Relaxing Instrumental Music-Long Playlist - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsUYu0PVxY#)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2017, 03:59:47 PM
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 18, 2017, 04:11:02 PM
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url] ([url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/17/second-night-st-louis-protests-turns-violent-after-peaceful-start.html[/url])

909842079290929153[/tweet]] (http://[tweet)[/url]
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 19, 2017, 01:19:40 AM
those insults just... dont work when youre a redneck not beleving in evolution. in europe we always thought the high percentage of creationists in US was a joke number, but clearly not


gtfo now, whore. find your own place/thread, dont rely on smarter, stronger men
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 19, 2017, 03:58:39 AM
^^claw do yourself a favor and add BS to your ignore list like I have.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 19, 2017, 07:32:03 AM
Do you mean Babyshark should put claw on her ignore list?
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 19, 2017, 07:38:18 AM
babyshark is trash. people who are bad at war2 are always trash IRL
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 19, 2017, 08:30:22 AM
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 19, 2017, 08:50:00 AM
this is not related to st louis

single parent kids often cause trouble
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 19, 2017, 08:50:55 AM
you fucktards really think every thread must be a commie thread? am i spamming your shitty ass "leftism thread of war2.ru" with capitalist propaganda? i made my own thread for muslim violence when i wanted to make a point and you faglers spammed that one also
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on September 19, 2017, 10:17:42 AM
kys garbage retard, your thread got nuked into wasteland
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 19, 2017, 10:39:01 AM
you fucktards really think every thread must be a commie thread? am i spamming your shitty ass "leftism thread of war2.ru" with capitalist propaganda? i made my own thread for muslim violence when i wanted to make a point and you faglers spammed that one also
i'm pretty sure race is the topic of this thread and my posts are all on topic?  many of them are specifically about st louis even
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 19, 2017, 10:39:49 AM
lol at claw crying about me posting about race and st louis in the race and st louis thread, because hes mad im anti-racist
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: BabyShark on September 19, 2017, 12:06:05 PM
Claw, your comments say a lot more about you than they do about me.

I'm sorry that your emotional state is such that lashing out and attacking everyone around you is what you need to do to try to make yourself feel better.

I don't know how you got to be where you are, that you're unhappy in your life and having a lot of anger. It's not a fun place to be. I used to be angry, many years ago. It's easy to be hostile and aggressive when you're hurting, to try to make it hurt less and hide it from other people. Anger and hate are more comfortable than feeling hurt.

Maybe you didn't feel loved by your parents. Maybe friends failed. Maybe you've been betrayed, abandoned, neglected, abused, maybe life in one way or another didn't work out the way you'd hoped. I don't know.

I'm sorry if that happened to you.

You are loved, though.

You are loved more than you can imagine. God loves you. God loves each person that He made.

He showed it by dying for us on the cross, giving His life for us to pay for every evil action, word, and thought we're guilty of. And I have a lot of them. Knowing I'm loved and forgiven in Jesus is the best thing in the entire world.

Everything else in life changes. People you love die or move or leave. But God's love is constant.

He loves us even at our most unlovable. I'm every bit as awful of a person as you Claw. I'm just better at hiding the dirt.

Every last human being is precious in the sight of God.

No matter what comes in life, God's love is always there.

God can pick us up from the ground after we're broken, after we've fallen and failed, and fill with Himself everything that is lost.

God is good. Praise God for His love and mercy!

Such a beautiful hymn, written by Horatio Spafford, after his four daughters died in a shipwreck in 1873:

When Peace Like A River (hymn with words and music) - Horatio G. Spafford - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmvnE6erj6I#)

Here is the story behind the hymn:

http://staugustine.com/living/religion/2014-10-16/story-behind-song-it-well-my-soul (http://staugustine.com/living/religion/2014-10-16/story-behind-song-it-well-my-soul)

Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on September 19, 2017, 12:35:19 PM
mmm stand by my side BS
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: eyyy im walkin here on September 21, 2017, 09:37:19 PM
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: marx was right on October 06, 2017, 06:04:05 PM
TYT Reporter Arrested In St. Louis By Criminal Cops - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHXH4feWZU#)

black people are treated as inferior without human rights in amerikkka.
Title: Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
Post by: I hate naggers on October 07, 2017, 02:32:26 AM
maybe so, this thread is only about a nigger violence tho

funny how im the ONLY ONE using statistics while you get outraged by single cases (youtube movies). speaks a lot about the human
i suppose a single video of a violent nigger will persuade you that theyre violent