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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 06:13:02 AM

Title: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 06:13:02 AM
The admins and community leaders have done very little right and they forcefully do things wrong even when facing opposition. Why is this?

But some good things I wish to commend:
-Tora hosting games and playing GoW games with noobs regularly
-Tora hosting tournaments
-Tora creating tournament system where less skilled players are encouraged to take part
-Tora actively attempting to make master tags an active lively thing
-Tora actively seeking solutions to problems to wide ranging issues
-Tora actively seeking to understand the community
Edit: -Tora actively spending money to further his community projects
Edit: -Mousey setting up the discord
Edit: -Mousey creating advertisement banners
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 06:17:20 AM
Look at you,  remember finals? When u didnt want let obervers cause 'NO', when u were trashtalking with Swift in semifinals?  If i was a New player and watched this Tour i Would never log again
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 06:18:53 AM
Look at you,  remember finals? When u didnt want let obervers cause 'NO', when u were trashtalking with Swift in semifinals?

Look at you. You wish to have a serious conversation with me about this issue (edit: the issue being observers in finals) or you wish to frame me into bad light? I think the latter and I refuse to discuss this issue with you unless you commit to actually discussing this like two adults.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 06:21:45 AM
But I wish to say that I had a very serious nosebleed and very serious case of very sudden high blood pressure because Wargasm trash talked me during game number 1. Edit: I've been kicked in the head in kickboxing practice and had nosebleed because of this and the level of nosebleed was same level as in this case of a headkick.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 06:53:31 AM
Look at you,  remember finals? When u didnt want let obervers cause 'NO', when u were trashtalking with Swift in semifinals?  If i was a New player and watched this Tour i Would never log again

"20 diversion tactics highly manipulative narcissists sociopaths and psychopaths use to silence you"

https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversion-tactics-highly-manipulative-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-to-silence-you/

5. Deliberately misrepresenting your thoughts and feelings to the point of absurdity.

11. Smear campaigns and stalking.

14. Triangulation.

15. Bait and feign innocence.

19. Shaming.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: I hate naggers on February 10, 2018, 07:08:38 AM
dammit so fagier is a manipulative narcissists sociopath? i thought you called ME that
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 07:20:01 AM
dammit so fagier is a manipulative narcissists sociopath? i thought you called ME that

I mean lots of people use the same tools as narcissists and sociopaths use. Its really useful to know what these tools are (e.g. gaslighting), so you know when people are using them against you - these tools are very effective and can be difficult to counter. Edit: I am not saying if you use the tools of narcissists and sociopaths that you are a sociopath. but every time you use the tools of narcissists and sociopaths, you are genuinely being a douchebag at that moment. Using these tools is something you should plead forgiveness for and have remorse about.

I don't remember what I've said about you in the past or why, nor do I remember what you have done and at what contexts. You can be a nice person, and you are a nice person towards me.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 07:52:33 AM
I remember wg said "i am happy no one is using macro hacks" if he was spaming message with /w u should make ss and we Would ban him right?

Im Saying u are not better, u want "let some1 do something" why dont u do something?
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 08:24:55 AM
I remember wg said "i am happy no one is using macro hacks" if he was spaming message with /w u should make ss and we Would ban him right?

he said something else to me. In hindsight its pretty easy to say "u should take SS of him doing whatever he was doing and show us".
But dude.
#1 I was not given any breaks before our games, or even between the games of pre-final games. 5 minutes after I was done 3-0'ng Swift and Viruz (30+ minute games each, no breaks in between), I was given enough time to make tea but not even enough time to drink any of it.
#2 I didn't mind Wargasm watching our games because I didn't think he would tip you (u8) or alf.
#3 It's pretty hard to take screenshot with blood all over ur face and clothes while more keeps pumping. I was more focused on making the bloodflow stop so i can move to the next game.
#4 I would have thought it was enough to say that Wargasm flames me during game I don't want him watching. Instead u guys started attacking me over not wanting Wargasm to watch the games, calling me childish and whatever.
#5 I also was getting flamed through whispers by 00Jordan
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 08:37:19 AM
Im Saying u are not better, u want "let some1 do something" why dont u do something?

I cannot ban people for doxing me. I cannot do anything about me getting banned from war2 for something I have not done. I cannot do anything about people accusing me of things I have not done and admins supporting the accuser and refusing to let me speak. I cannot do anything about tournament hoster letting people flame me in tournament and telling me I lose the tournament by default if I don't let the flamer watch. I can't demote an inactive account from the ladder, and when the owner of that inactive account says that he will remove himself from the ladder by letting me beat him (i mean my score against him on average is 4 wins to 1 loss) - when the admin sees that we've dealt with the issue by ourselves then the admin punishes me for "cheating the ladder" as well as publicly calling me a person who cheats the ladder.

In the future I will have control over these issues. But I cannot assume that every single situation where I actually am dependant on the admins, I get mistreated about. I wont allow myself to be in situations where I might need the help of the admins in the future.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 08:39:49 AM
1 I was not given any breaks before our games, or even between the games of pre-final games. 5 minutes after I was done 3-0'ng Swift and Viruz (30+ minute games each, no breaks in between), I was given enough time to make tea but not even enough time to drink any of it.

I remember most of game u were dead while viet was playing alone, i will check games special of you,

i played 5x bo3 while u played 4x bo3
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 08:44:40 AM
1 I was not given any breaks before our games, or even between the games of pre-final games. 5 minutes after I was done 3-0'ng Swift and Viruz (30+ minute games each, no breaks in between), I was given enough time to make tea but not even enough time to drink any of it.

I remember most of game u were dead while viet was playing alone, i will check games special of you,

i played 5x bo3 while u played 4x bo3

how long did you wait for the games between me/brav vs viruz/swift to end? how many minutes?
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 08:53:20 AM
I remember most of game u were dead while viet was playing alone, i will check games special of you,

Lets see.

Game: Sepi Brav: 2 & 4, Viruz & Swift: 6 & 12. I was playing the whole game or the game ended shortly after I died
Game: Sepi Brav: 6 & ?      , Viruz & Swift:  ? and s9. I expand s12 after 6 dies. I am actively scouting and causing damage the whole time I am making a comeback at s12.
Game: Sepi Brav: ? & ?, Viruz & Swift: ? & ?. I think Brav was 9. I think was 6. Swift dies I don' remember how - Swift was probably s9 and me and Braviet doubled him. I think Viruz was 4 or 5. After swift died Viruz tried to finish 6. I never died during this game. I was active until the end. I had s12, 8, and s9 plus some buildings at 6 at the end.

What are you talking about me being dead?

Besides, when I am dead during a teamgame, I am constantly observing the game at the maximum of my capacity in order to give advice to my ally in case he might need it. If i see a strategy choice which will lead to a check-mate situation and therefore to victory of my team, I will constantly be looking for such strat choice. And when I find such strat choice, I tell it to my ally. I never go AFK in a team game when I die if I care about winning the game.

Edit: I can do the same evaluation about me being dead about games between me&braviet vs Mystical & Paperboy. I don't think I was dead in these games.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: I hate naggers on February 10, 2018, 08:58:05 AM
play fortnite
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 09:31:04 AM
GoW 2vs2 Championship | Swift/Viruz vs. Braviet/MKI | Game 2 | - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBKOyGOOCwg#)
U are dead after 5 min, u would just left even if game would be longer and viet would be dead


this is not my bad that we won our games faster than u?
"you play as your opponent allows you" this work here , and i think u forgot that we are from eu it was almost 2? when we started play finals





anyway: did u make something for w2 to grow our community? cause even I(!) made it
few players from sc forum sometimes are playing + few players were asking at my yt channel about my campaign

https://standupforthetruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-26-at-8.01.25-AM.png (https://standupforthetruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-26-at-8.01.25-AM.png)
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: LiveFreeorDie on February 10, 2018, 09:39:19 AM
Once you target one of the nicest people on the server who does the most for it (ie. XuRnT) as evil, you just have to wake up and realize you are the one with the problem.

If you don't issue a prompt apology to XuRnT within 365 days, I will begin the machinations.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 10:55:21 AM
Szwagier you are distorting & hiding facts, changing subject, and not making sense.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 10:59:46 AM
Once you target one of the nicest people on the server who does the most for it (ie. XuRnT) as evil, you just have to wake up and realize you are the one with the problem.

If you don't issue a prompt apology to XuRnT within 365 days, I will begin the machinations.

i have no idea what you are talking about
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 11:28:26 AM
SO you are saying if u didnt make exp at s12 viet would lost game? " I AM NOT DEAD I GOT HALL AND PEON!" while rest got lust xd


BS is talking about your topic that Xurnt can steal money casue ppl got same pass on w2 and paypal,

In my opinion u should be not able to make topic  "how to hack" "bullies" etc
U are not helping... I think u are just trolling/got no idea to do something  so u sit here and u are making stupid topic
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
SO you are saying if u didnt make exp at s12 viet would lost game? " I AM NOT DEAD I GOT HALL AND PEON!" while rest got lust xd

What are you even trying to say?
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 11:32:26 AM
BS is talking about your topic that Xurnt can steal money casue ppl got same pass on w2 and paypal,

I dont know what babyshark is talking about.

Edit: I wanted people to be aware of the risk of their paypals being vulnerable if they have the same password in war2 forum / war2.ru - as they have in their paypal.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 10, 2018, 11:33:24 AM
We are looking to add another admin. Currently Kagan is our newest one however he is more exclusive to the Russian community.
If anyone knows someone level headed with new ideas who is interested in being an admin do tell.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 11:38:46 AM
In my opinion u shouldnt be able to make topic  "how to hack" "bullies" etc
U are not helping... I think u are just trolling/got no idea to do something  so u sit here and u are making stupid topic

You are not making sense.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 11:40:50 AM
I said u were dead in this game, u are saying u are not cause u scout map.. while enemy was next to him s9 or 9 dont remember and viet saw that he had mid


U dont remember your topic? BS remember i remember ,probably admins delete it(and u should get temporary ban about Xurnt)


so sad, u got time go check your all post, i wont search it for u

You should not be able to set up any topic 
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 11:50:42 AM
I said u were dead in this game, u are saying u are not cause u scout map.. while enemy were next to him s9 or 9 dont remember and viet saw that he had mid

And what is your point? You are incapable of conveying information. You want to argue about little things even tho I've already disproven your larger point. Now you want some little victory over nonsense, and you seem to be incapable of even being right about this little thing. Anyways let me comment about what u say here:

"u are saying u are not cause u scout map.. while enemy were next to him s9 or 9 dont remember and viet saw that he had mid"
-I am not dead because I have a gold mine. I scout the entire map couple times. You say that Viet saw that Kyle had mid - he did not see that Kyle had mid. I can give u the warvid of the game. It was me who scouted mid for braviet. I scouted every single mine twice for braviet. What is this tiny little point that you are trying to convey here?


U dont remember your topic? BS remember i remember ,probably admins delete it

What is it that you are trying to say about the topics? What is your point? You are like a woman: I have to guess what you are trying to say. At least women are beautiful and nice, and I know to expect to have difficulty with things like this.


(and u should get temporary ban about Xurnt)

fascist


Edit: corrected typo ( It as me who scouted  => it was me who scouted)
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 11:51:52 AM
You should not be able to set up any topic 

fascist
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
:D :D so funny :D:D mr.troll
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 12:01:16 PM
:D :D so funny :D:D mr.troll

who's the troll now?
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 12:05:47 PM
:D :D so funny :D:D mr.troll

who's the troll now?

still you
set up a topic a month ago, forgot what it was - sepi xd
"You should not be able to set up any topic"
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 12:07:22 PM
my fascist troll friend, you are not making any sense, nor are you understanding what I am saying. Take an english class and a class in reading comprehension. After that do a sudoku to get some excercise for your brain.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 12:34:08 PM
for w2? no thx no need mr.troll
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 12:37:00 PM
for w2? no thx no need mr.troll

you are projecting
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: mousEtopher on February 10, 2018, 12:50:56 PM
b-but, I set up a cool discord server with cool roles & war2-themed emotes, and sometimes i make cute banners advertising burton's tournies.. there's just no pleasing you people!!  :<
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
b-but, I set up a cool discord server with cool roles & war2-themed emotes, and sometimes i make cute banners advertising burton's tournies.. there's just no pleasing you people!!  :<

oh you set up the discord? i love the discord! And I like the banners!

Edit: I added these to the commend-list on the original post.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 01:04:05 PM
for w2? no thx no need mr.troll

you are projecting
??? im making it for fun lol
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 01:13:14 PM
for w2? no thx no need mr.troll

you are projecting
??? im making it for fun lol

You are trolling for fun? no surprise there.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Szwagier on February 10, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
no im projecting for fun

and u are trolling  8)
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on February 10, 2018, 01:17:04 PM
no im projecting for fun

and u are trolling  8)

yea so you are projecting your own behaviour of trolling on me, calling me a troll.
Title: Re: Why the admins and community leaders refuse to do anything good or right?
Post by: Paper_Boy on February 10, 2018, 10:25:42 PM
Not all leaders have to be Anointed by HOUSE IL-Stark BARATHEON 1st of his name. You can take on a leadership role and advertise new blood into the community! At this point U need to find out whats popular among Chinese and Koreans then advertise!! It’s sad we’ve only had 5 players from Asia over the years. I read about 1 nearly dying the other day for spending over 18 hours straight in an internet Cafe and could no longer move his legs. Even as paramedics dragged him away, he begged his friends to help finish his characters quest LOL… Exactly the type of people we need to save this gamE!! haha


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the World of Warcraft,
    The bloodLusted-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction (Burnt), while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity(Van).
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Gul’Dan
    Troubles my sight: a wasteland of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man named Sepi,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds of Kilrog.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Surely some MACCINATION is at hand?