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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 07:37:38 AM

Title: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 07:37:38 AM
When everything comes down to "personal preference" in the absence of ultimate morality, good, evil, right, wrong, you have nothing to respond with when someone says they want to go have sex with animals or children or unwilling people by force. It's their "preference" after all.

yep. Those people are no different from you and I. Just following what they believe is "right" and "wrong". and what is right in their mind is to have sex with goats.

I dont need a book from "god" to tell me i shouldn't be raping.

Morality is a joke.

There is No right and no wrong.

No Evil and no good.

Just a bunch of people walking around thinking that how they view the world is how everyone else should view it.

Do you realize that your statements contradict each other?

"I shouldn't be raping" contradicts "There is no wrong, no evil."

One of these statements is untrue. They can't both possibly be true at the same time.

Obviously, the second statement "There is no wrong, no evil." is a false statement.

But your statement "I dont need a book from "god" to tell me i shouldn't be raping." is a true statement.

God's Word says that God's law is written on our hearts. We all have a conscience.

Romans 2:14

14 (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them.)


So you do know that rape is wrong. Your God-given conscience makes you aware of it.

Therefore your statement "There is no wrong, no evil" is false even by your own standard that rape is wrong.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 07:48:47 AM
You have nothing to defend. You are nothing. We are all nothing. God is nothing. We are all god.

Humans are nothing.
God is nothing.
Nothing is nothing.
So humans are God.

Your statements essentially boil down to:

Nothing is nothing is nothing is nothing is nothing.

It's meaningless.

It does nothing to address the reality that we are here, living on a beautifully designed earth in a vast jaw-droppingly amazing universe designed by an even more amazing God who gave us consciences to know right from wrong.

It doesn't address our lives on any relevant level. It doesn't answer questions about why we are here or where we came from or where we are going or what the purpose of life is.

The implication seems to be that there is no meaning to anything, no purpose to anything, no value in anything, that human life and behavior is irrelevant.

This philosophy stems from evolutionistic thinking, that existence is an accident, and we are nothing more than particles in motion.

However, reality and fact strike down such absurd ideas.

Beginning with your own statement about rape being wrong, you've disproved your meaninglessness argument on your own. You can't have come up with a "rape is wrong" argument on the basis of a meaninglessness existence.

You know rape is wrong because God put His law in our hearts. We know right from wrong, we know the reality of good and evil.

The fact that our consciences prick us in accordance with the same rules God's written out in Scripture is good evidence that the source of our consciences is this very God who articulated His law in His Word.

God says we are without excuse.

Romans 1

18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: I hate naggers on February 15, 2018, 08:06:19 AM
morality is the product of consensus between evolution and the spirit of time (zeitgeist)
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: tk[as] on February 15, 2018, 08:33:03 AM
Tell us more about morality I hate naggers.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: shesycompany on February 15, 2018, 08:38:15 AM
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

3O,Our God is in heaven;

he does whatever pleases him.

he got used for special privelidges for a group of people,he doesnt work like that.

was that written by paul sighhhh the single lonely male has no authority to speak this
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Lambchops on February 15, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
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morality is the product of consensus between evolution and the spirit of time (zeitgeist)

Tell us more about morality I hate naggers.

LMAO  ;D

The father Bhudda say: With our thoughts, we make the earth







.... and from it then came a stone monkey .... the nature of monkey was






(https://cdn.meme.am/images/11097990.jpg)



.... IRREPRESSIBLE!






Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: I hate naggers on February 15, 2018, 09:39:54 AM
Tell us more about morality I hate naggers.
theres nothing more to say. im not looking for discussion either, what i posted is a plain fact. Cant debate that unless youre a biology/logic tard or take some retarded "god" entity too seriously
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on February 15, 2018, 10:10:24 AM
I don;t think anyone worships a retarded god, I think they worship a wise and all-knwoing God.  It would be funny if there was a religion that worshipped a retarded god, though.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on February 15, 2018, 10:12:45 AM
Morality is so got dang obvious anyway, bring joy and love into the world instead of pain and harm.  Any idiot could tell ya that.  It's also self-apparent that Morality requires communism
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Lambchops on February 15, 2018, 10:13:37 AM
Tell us more about morality I hate naggers.

theres nothing more to say. im not looking for discussion either, what i posted is a plain fact. Cant debate that unless youre a biology/logic tard or take some retarded "god" entity too seriously




I can't claim for certian that they are the same person but:




(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3870.0;attach=2106)




Has anyone actually ever seen Pigsy and Claw in the same room together? Seems a bit suspicious. Just saying....

Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: I hate naggers on February 15, 2018, 10:27:41 AM
why u angry
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
I hate people that push their religious beliefs beliefs on others. This is a Warcraft2 video game forum and the op seems to really believe the best place to preach their religion is here. Clearly someone like this is detached from reality.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Lambchops on February 15, 2018, 10:45:41 AM
I hate people that push their religious beliefs beliefs on others. This is a Warcraft2 video game forum and the op seems to really believe the best place to preach their religion is here. Clearly someone like this is detached from reality.

TBH the religious stuff isn't really my kettle of fish either, but I do try not to hate.... and honestly, aren't we all a bit detached from reality in one way or another?

 




Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 10:52:52 AM
^^Your aware that around 80-90% of all the op’s post have something to do with their interpretation of religion.
I don’t really care what someone believes but most people don’t like it when someone pushes their beliefs on them. Add that to the fact that this is an internet forum and nobody knows each other. The likelihood of someone actually being converting is negligible.
Like why would someone try and preach their religion here of all places?
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: I hate naggers on February 15, 2018, 11:09:44 AM
i am proud to be an atheist
anyone that believes in a theistic god is stupid

still though, some religions are better than others. Muslimism is the worst religion on earth given its holy book and passionate believers
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 11:26:53 AM
^^I don’t believe there is anything wrong with the religion of islam itself. But I will say there is something wrong with many muslims who interpret islam. All religion is subject to interpretation different groups interpret different things.
We could find examples of extremism in followers of all the major religions. 

I guess this is the part when athiests will say “all religion is bad.”
 Religion has always existed for as long as humans have existed. Which is why it isn’t going away. Nobody knows what happens after you die so if the athiest is right I guess nobody has anything to worry about.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Lambchops on February 15, 2018, 12:31:16 PM
^^Your aware that around 80-90% of all the op’s post have something to do with their interpretation of religion.
I don’t really care what someone believes but most people don’t like it when someone pushes their beliefs on them. Add that to the fact that this is an internet forum and nobody knows each other. The likelihood of someone actually being converting is negligible.
Like why would someone try and preach their religion here of all places?

Why on earth would someone join yet another wc2 game after 20 years on the merry-go-round? Apart from the dopermine addiction thing, I really don't know, but I still keep doing it. We all have our patterns. I dont think any of them make sense really.

If someone was bashing on my door at 8am on a Sunday I might be a bit annoyed, but you only look at the forum when you choose to and you only have to scroll down a bit if you want.

Also it is worth noting that there is only around 600-800k words in the bible (depending on how you count them), and I'm pretty sure BS has already posted about three quaters of it, so she's got to run out some time  ;)


^^I don’t believe there is anything wrong with the religion of islam itself. But I will say there is something wrong with .....

...the silly hats! Come on, you were all thinking it. What kind of GOD mandates silly hats? (also hi jews ;) lol not to mention RC priests)... and those beards. Whats up with them?
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 12:34:53 PM
...the silly hats! Come on, you were all thinking it. What kind of GOD mandates silly hats? (also hi jews  lol not to mention RC priests)... and those beards. Whats up with them?

Your aware those hat's the Hasidic Jews wear cost about 5k usd? Those are some nice hats.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Lambchops on February 15, 2018, 12:47:55 PM
...the silly hats! Come on, you were all thinking it. What kind of GOD mandates silly hats? (also hi jews  lol not to mention RC priests)... and those beards. Whats up with them?

Your aware those hat's the Hasidic Jews wear cost about 5k usd? Those are some nice hats.

You're kidding?   :o   $5k ??

OMG next time I see a rabbi waring one ima stand to attention and salute!


Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 01:38:18 PM
I hate people that push their religious beliefs beliefs on others. This is a Warcraft2 video game forum and the op seems to really believe the best place to preach their religion is here. Clearly someone like this is detached from reality.

1. You hate me. I don't hate you. Yet you and others have hypocritically accused me of "hating" certain groups, which is far from the truth. You approve your own hatred of people who have different viewpoints or opinions, yet you don't want to be faced with anyone merely disagreeing with yours.

2. The statement that "people shouldn't push their opinions on others" is a self-defeating statement. That very statement is an opinion that you have just successfully pushed on others to the same degree that anything written is being "pushed" on people who choose to be here to read it. You should really put more thought into your viewpoints so you avoid looking silly by uttering statements that kill themselves.

3. Further hypocrisy is revealed when we look at not only the entire forum, which is FILLED with everyone smashing their opinions, frequently hateful and rude, on each other. You tolerate all this. The only viewpoint that it is socially acceptable to hate, ridicule, mock, silence, ostracize is the Christian worldview. You do not go tell everyone else sharing opinions that they should not be sharing their thoughts. You, as a group, all target the Christian. Personal insults and name-calling are constant. And you try to claim other groups as the "victims", which consists of having someone disagree rather than actually propelling hateful insults and death wishes. I think it's perfectly fine to attack, and even mock, ideas. Attacking people is not the same thing as attacking ideas. People should be able to treat each other with kindness and respect even when they disagree about ideas.

4. You randomly started pushing Islam (a religion) in this thread, completely changing the topic at the time, which was "Why Men Want Casual Sex":

https://youtu.be/iji7sULZIOY

So don't pretend to be against people "pushing" opinions on others (ie. writing them). You're not. You just have nothing besides hate, insults, and baseless personal attacks (like attacking my looks, breasts, skin color, intelligence level, and now being "homeless and destitute", which are actually discriminatory sexist racist bigotry and nonsense) with which to fight truth you don't like to hear.

And don't pretend to be against people sharing religious ideas. You did it yourself.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 02:35:47 PM
^^I dont read posts that long usually. Most users have called u out on this.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
Yes, because you are too busy detaching from reality in a video game world to care about the fact that the world is going down the toilet and your video game centred existence will come to an abrupt and shocking end when something like civil war hits home and you no longer have a computer to soothe the emptiness that fills you.

The world needs men to stand up and be men and fight for what's right.

"Post too long" is the same as admitting that you're faced with the truth, but you don't care and want to stay apathetic.

Do you really want to spend the rest of your life finding meaning to your existence from staring at moving colors on a rectangle in front of your face?

You are meant for more than that. It's fine to play for fun sometimes, but if it becomes your purpose in life to the point that you are completely apathetic about real world problems, you're letting down not only yourself, but the world that needs you.

The world needs men. Can't you see that the women are going crazy running around screaming with vagina hats and ridiculous protests against nothing? "WE WANT RIGHTS!" You already have them, fools! Look at the women in other places that have none! Be grateful!
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 15, 2018, 04:05:09 PM
What are you rambling about lol.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 04:05:46 PM
I'm not telling. It's a secret.
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on February 15, 2018, 04:33:36 PM
sorry for your mental illness babyshark
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: BabyShark on February 15, 2018, 05:02:05 PM
Thanks. So sweet. I got your fruit basket.

I'm sure the inclusion of ricin was an oversight.

Cheers. :)
Title: Re: @Jordan4385
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on February 15, 2018, 05:14:43 PM
wow delusions about being sent poisoned fruit, this is worse than i thought.