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Title: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Grosshandlaren on October 06, 2019, 09:07:47 AM
Won't put me in or value the discussion itself but for me the "free word" is important, trying to silence people belongs to dictatorships and has a negative impact.

This is a forum and whoever wants, could choose read or not read what interests them.

With those words, I would suggest unmute Burnt.

Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 06, 2019, 10:45:57 AM
Burnt needs help. His mental health is not in a good place. This is the first person that I know of who Blid muted over a situation like this and I agree with it. Allowing Burnt to continue to spam dillusions is not healthy for anyone, especially burnt.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Grosshandlaren on October 06, 2019, 10:59:08 AM
Burnt needs help. His mental health is not in a good place. This is the first person that I know of who Blid muted over a situation like this and I agree with it. Allowing Burnt to continue to spam dillusions is not healthy for anyone, especially burnt.

Ohh didnt know you where trained to diagnose a person's health, especially over the internet. Are there other treatments besides the "mute treatment" Maybe the "mute treatment" has proven to work best?
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 06, 2019, 12:21:48 PM
He thinks War2 players put gasoline on his yard to kill his grass.  It doesn't take training to know he's sick.  My hope is keeping him away from all this will stop him from obsessing over these delusions.  I just hope he has family or loved ones that can get him help.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: WillTheRealKoorbStandUp on October 06, 2019, 04:11:21 PM
From someone who has and is still suffering from alot of mental illness, the fact you guys are labeling him "sick and mentally unstable" is hurtful and damaging fyi..

Also for all we know someone could of put gassoline on his lawn, but he is misplacing the blame on a wc2 player, maybe it was some dumb local teenagers doing stupid sh1t for a laugh burning everyones lawns in the neigbourhood..

and if he is suffering delluisons muting him from the forums isnt going to help him, the delluisons will take place in some other aspect of his life. Muting him is purly selfish intentions imo.

Thanks for all the work you done for warcraft 2 burnt, just so you know if your reading this. None of this stuff lately has changed my respect or appreationsation for you and all the work you done for wc2  buddy.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 06, 2019, 06:57:42 PM
Let's all debate whether burnt has mental health issues or not.. and then debate how best to handle it on the war2 forums. *sarcasm*

If you want to talk to him find him on FB or send him a PM.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Equinox on October 06, 2019, 08:37:50 PM
Burnt on my personal facebook page.


SAM 13:31

hey
Now we plan, plot, strategist
SAM 22:05

Are you a down rider or what u got my back vs these hackers
Or u just talk because these punks muted me again they never mute anyone
I broke no rules they covering up their hacking
And god has my back. He healed your cancer for a reason. To have my back
The spirit of 2pac entered me when i prayed for van.
I have 2pac tattoo on my left arm
2pac resurrection was prophecy this is the new game he references
Outlaw[z] was the name of our clan
08:37

Did you see latest evidence posted my facebook profile wall
Talk is cheap..post that evidence on forum for me

(Tupac) Under Pressure Yeah, Babyyy When tha pressures on... Thug Life when it's on it's on (Tupac) One of these days i'll learn don't fuck with trick ass ni...
youtube.com
13:51

Blids a little bitch muting me
Hes only doing it because he ia guilty

(http://i.imgur.com/miq7Q7W.jpg)
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Equinox on October 06, 2019, 09:41:40 PM
From my own point of view, burnt should be unmuted..

I dont cares if he mentally instable, everyone has the free speech, that dude give his life for that game, if that dude suicide dont tell it's because of his mental situation, just ask yourself about how you guys have take everything important in his life, warcraft II.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Lambchops on October 07, 2019, 06:18:40 AM
Pretty sure anyone still playing WC2 has mental issues of one sort or another.

From someone who has and is still suffering from alot of mental illness, the fact you guys are labeling him "sick and mentally unstable" is hurtful and damaging fyi..

Also for all we know someone could of put gassoline on his lawn, but he is misplacing the blame on a wc2 player, maybe it was some dumb local teenagers doing stupid sh1t for a laugh burning everyones lawns in the neigbourhood..

and if he is suffering delluisons muting him from the forums isnt going to help him, the delluisons will take place in some other aspect of his life. Muting him is purly selfish intentions imo.

Thanks for all the work you done for warcraft 2 burnt, just so you know if your reading this. None of this stuff lately has changed my respect or appreationsation for you and all the work you done for wc2  buddy.


Well shit. Here's me agreeing with koorb... eww lol.

Apart from the "selfish intentions" bit, I don't think that's right.


I'm guessing someone messed with burnt's computer a little bit... like I say that makes you question EVERYTHING. It is extremely invasive, and will mess with any normal person's head.

Probably 6 members of a wayward buck's night pissed on his lawn ... or some kid ran out of fuel on his dirtbike and made a mess ....or whatever who knows. Not the point.

Point is burt doesn't have to be any more nuts than anyone else here to jump to the odd conclusion in that situation. My guess is he's not imagining that someone was messing with him a bit, he's just over-estimating the extent of it.

Isolating him won't help.

If you are seriously concerned for his wellbeing, unmute burnt AND MUTE TK (not a joke).

I swear if tk saw a puppy get run over by a car and badly injured but not die he would kick it and call it a noob for getting hit. IMHO making him admin has brought out the absolute worst in him.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: woofy on October 07, 2019, 08:43:27 AM
not to undermine blid, but i'm for unmuting also. he clearly needs help and muting him could be throwing gasoline on the.......fire, so to speak.


igotchu burnt, you've done wonders for this place. whatever is happening in your life, just remember, whether or not there is a circle of geeks hacking on the internet, the planet keeps on spinning. put your head down, get some exercise, stay off the booze/drugs, and most importantly - talk to your friends/family about anything that's bugging you
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 07, 2019, 11:27:47 AM
From someone who has and is still suffering from alot of mental illness, the fact you guys are labeling him "sick and mentally unstable" is hurtful and damaging fyi..

Also for all we know someone could of put gassoline on his lawn, but he is misplacing the blame on a wc2 player, maybe it was some dumb local teenagers doing stupid sh1t for a laugh burning everyones lawns in the neigbourhood..

and if he is suffering delluisons muting him from the forums isnt going to help him, the delluisons will take place in some other aspect of his life. Muting him is purly selfish intentions imo.

Thanks for all the work you done for warcraft 2 burnt, just so you know if your reading this. None of this stuff lately has changed my respect or appreationsation for you and all the work you done for wc2  buddy.
I see what you're saying about mental health and I don't know the exact right way to approach it, but Burnt is talking about clear delusions: War2ers putting gasoline on his lawn, God intervening to tell him he'll find out what happened in some game he played, and when I use the words "sick" and "ill" what I'm trying to do is to communicate to Burnt in a clear, direct way that these are delusions, that he's not doing well, and that he needs to get help.  I feel that letting him keep posting here will just encourage him to dig deeper and deeper into these same delusions. 

I don't think just muting him is going to help him get better, you're right about that, but the only people that can help him get better are the ones he has around him in real life... He needs real treatment, and letting him post here not only isn't going to help him, it is just going to make him into more of a spectacle, of people coming and looking to see the weird stuff Burnt is saying, poking him a bit to get a reaction, then getting mad at him because he won't listen to reason, and so on... 

I'm not set in stone on him being muted, and was fine to see him return once when the mute automatically wore off... and this mute will wear off too.  I don't want to be like "out of sight, out of mind" after he more than anyone else built this community... but as long as he's posting about being imbued with the spirit of Tupac by praying for Van, I mean, it just doesn't seem appropriate to let him keep doing this.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 07, 2019, 12:03:30 PM
Definitely needs to be muted, the forum was actually interesting before all that shit started. He actually thought Van had been kidnapped and was being held hostage LOL. Let him rant on his face book where people can choose to block him.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 07, 2019, 12:54:08 PM
This isn't the only platform to communicate with burnt...His Facebook is Steve Paul Hansen for anyone who would like to talk to him.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 07, 2019, 01:11:48 PM
Maybe he is not muted, and has been kidnapped.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 07, 2019, 02:50:07 PM
:O
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 07, 2019, 04:59:51 PM
I agree with everyone saying Burnt should be unmuted. Everyone should be able to speak freely and Burnt has done a lot for this game. If people don't like what he has to say then don't respond, everything will blow over like it always does. If everyone who seems to be suffering from mental illness because of their posts was muted this forum would be pretty empty, this is Warcraft 2 were talking about... LOL. I'm for freedom of speech let him talk.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: easycompany on October 08, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
ya unmute last thing we need is lot of war2 talk in social media
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: iamli3 on October 08, 2019, 04:36:39 PM
unban because reasons
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Goodfaun on October 08, 2019, 07:38:52 PM
I vote for unmute, for 1:freedom speech and no one should be muted for something random put online otherwise everybody gonna get muted for something dumb they said in the past or present. so unless we want to start muting people for bringing up another person health problems, calling people names, and anything other insult to another. also note that people write in text and that can also be misinterpreted by those who read it.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: max.x.overkill on October 09, 2019, 03:20:29 AM
Burnt was good for the game... I vote for unmuting. Wtf is up with u guys...
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: easycompany on October 09, 2019, 10:46:37 AM
dudes war2 1.33 java dosbox  :o  war2 in a web browser blizzard can sell the dos version ;/ no pirate but the dam clollectors are driving up dos games..best route for war2 i can think of..no install playable on all os

https://www.playdosgames.com/play/warcraft-2-tides-darkness/ (https://www.playdosgames.com/play/warcraft-2-tides-darkness/)
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: aLfReD on October 09, 2019, 02:53:59 PM
xurnt = war2server.ru
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 09, 2019, 04:31:34 PM
There was clearly absolutely no merit in 90% of Burnts accusations towards other players in the community. I wonder how people would feel if they were the ones in Burnt's irrational crosshairs.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 09, 2019, 04:32:48 PM
I also question how many of you wants him unmuted for no other reason than watching him melt down further into a deeper psychosis
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Equinox on October 09, 2019, 05:59:00 PM
Stfu newbe we said unmute him.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Goodfaun on October 10, 2019, 01:49:49 AM
I'm a believer of "freedom of speech" and "innocent until proven guilty". assuming why the mute happen?(in the spoiler):
Spoiler
so far what i'm getting at is this mute happen cause of what the thread "Burnt!" which is a hell hole of itself trying to read through.(that thread should have been muted/lock way earlier) break down/my understanding of the thread "Burnt!"(in the spoiler):
Spoiler
starts off as investigation of players hacking and then Most of it just seem to be constant insults from all sides. and from my point of view if someone says something dumb don't just add more insults calling people names you just end up adding more fuel to the fire
I can understand muting a player/bot spamming "player is a hacker"(or something along those lines) if it a case of annoyance/spam (tell them stop the spam and temp. mute) but Xurnt usually post more for the war 2 community and if we can even have a civil talk about hacking acquisitions or talk about players being asses to other players then why post anywhere, the whole warcraft 2 forums should be "flame wars & offtopic" if we can't be civil.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Knitter on October 10, 2019, 03:36:15 AM
I dont know TK but in my opinion as an Admin you should be neutral to everyone.
All im seeing you pick on Burnt everyday. Thats not what an admin should do. It doesnt matter if hes right or not.

Anyway i also want to unmute burnt!
..... He did so much for this game. We should appreciate it.

Cheers
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 10, 2019, 04:38:24 AM
He needs to get in touch with reality before he's taken off mute. I don't know what's wrong to him but he's still going on about it all on face book. I mean that's like a month of his life lost over a warcraft 2 game.   
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Lambchops on October 10, 2019, 06:15:29 AM
He needs to get in touch with reality before he's taken off mute. I don't know what's wrong to him but he's still going on about it all on face book. I mean that's like a month of his life lost over a warcraft 2 game.   

LOL sg talking about reality. What you're a fb stalking psychotherapist now?

Obviously he needs to get some stuff of his chest, so all of a sudden this forum is a nanny state?

I agree that burnt shouldn't have to resort to using fb, if he needs to vent he should do it here. Let's face it who amoung us hasn't occasionally. We broke it, we fix it.

Just let him flame it out. Damn make him a special flaming burnt inferno section and let him have at it.

Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Lambchops on October 10, 2019, 06:19:05 AM
I dont know TK but in my opinion as an Admin you should be neutral to everyone.
All im seeing you pick on Burnt everyday. Thats not what an admin should do. It doesnt matter if hes right or not.

Anyway i also want to unmute burnt!
..... He did so much for this game. We should appreciate it.

Cheers

Word.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 10, 2019, 07:26:51 AM
I'm not "picking" on him. Hes saying crazy shit. He needs to know it's crazy.

He just sent me pictures of dead weeds (not grass) and said some thing like "see.. definitely gasoline" .. when there is absolutely no way to tell how the weeds died. Looks like very natural dead weeds to me?


Some really strange shit going on with him..
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Winchester on October 10, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
Lambchops probably the one who hacked burnt because he's angry he isn't allowed to cheat at video games, so he takes it out on war2s most passionate player by fucking with him.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 10, 2019, 11:57:59 AM
He needs to get in touch with reality before he's taken off mute. I don't know what's wrong to him but he's still going on about it all on face book. I mean that's like a month of his life lost over a warcraft 2 game.   

LOL sg talking about reality. What you're a fb stalking psychotherapist now?

Obviously he needs to get some stuff of his chest, so all of a sudden this forum is a nanny state?

I agree that burnt shouldn't have to resort to using fb, if he needs to vent he should do it here. Let's face it who amoung us hasn't occasionally. We broke it, we fix it.

Just let him flame it out. Damn make him a special flaming burnt inferno section and let him have at it.



He messages me on facebook you retarded newbie
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 10, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
His entire meltdown was about 1 game of war2 LOL
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: woofy on October 10, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
man, burnt has done wonders for this server, his passion and dedication cannot be disputed. just imagine if he directed all of this hard work in the real world...

maybe it's not too late?  :thinking: :thinking: :thinking: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Lambchops on October 11, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
He messages me on facebook you retarded newbie

Then you write about it here ... because you're an asshole (not a psychotherapist).

Nice.


His entire meltdown was about 1 game of war2 LOL

Nobody's meltdown is about one game of war2 you simpleton. Shhh grown-ups are talking.

Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: easycompany on October 11, 2019, 10:35:09 AM
ohh fine ..but we got a major problem...my eyes seen a war2 player is injured in the arm  :omg: he may have to retire :omg:
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: CLAVV on October 11, 2019, 10:38:00 AM
ohh fine ..but we got a major problem...my eyes seen a war2 player is injured in the arm  :omg: he may have to retire :omg:
WHY WONT U STFU
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: easycompany on October 11, 2019, 10:44:28 AM
oh im drinking ..ive not hit the capital letters yet maybee next year..all that is wrong with the dude is wats wrong with all my gamers ..go go party people like you ur famous.

there's absolutely nothing wrong with burnt

single syndrome its why married people jump back.its a so terrible master jk its cool as fuck when you know it be a dumbass it turn ya religious
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 11, 2019, 01:56:02 PM
I'm not "picking" on him. Hes saying crazy shit. He needs to know it's crazy.

He just sent me pictures of dead weeds (not grass) and said some thing like "see.. definitely gasoline" .. when there is absolutely no way to tell how the weeds died. Looks like very natural dead weeds to me?


Some really strange shit going on with him..
Yeah, he wouldn't be muted if he was just saying things we didn't like.  He's muted because he's legitimately lost his grip on reality and letting him fill the forum with actual psychotic delusions doesn't help anyone.

If you guys wanna see a good guy who is the reason war2.ru exists be able to indulge, extensively and publicly, in unhinged and depressing nonsensical rants, so everyone can crane their necks and gawk at how the founding admin thinks War2 players are being run over by tractors and having their gasoline poured on their farms while Tupac's spirit imbues him, we can unmute him.  If you want him to have this place to continue to focus his unhealthy delusions on, all right, we can give it another try at least for awhile.  But if you're thinking "burnt is good, why are we punishing him" or "let people speak their minds!" then I kind of think you're missing what's actually going on here.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: easycompany on October 11, 2019, 02:11:25 PM
;o that mean i cant have the lava forms anymore..burnts just single it will play with a persons mind
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Grosshandlaren on October 11, 2019, 02:44:18 PM
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Yeah, he wouldn't be muted if he was just saying things we didn't like.  He's muted because he's legitimately lost his grip on reality and letting him fill the forum with actual psychotic delusions doesn't help anyone.

If you guys wanna see a good guy who is the reason war2.ru exists be able to indulge, extensively and publicly, in unhinged and depressing nonsensical rants, so everyone can crane their necks and gawk at how the founding admin thinks War2 players are being run over by tractors and having their gasoline poured on their farms while Tupac's spirit imbues him, we can unmute him.  If you want him to have this place to continue to focus his unhealthy delusions on, all right, we can give it another try at least for awhile.  But if you're thinking "burnt is good, why are we punishing him" or "let people speak their minds!" then I kind of think you're missing what's actually going on here.

To be clear...let us go back to basic. All these arguments you put forward, are they based on professionalism or is it just a feeling?
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: RipE[Eur0] on October 11, 2019, 05:32:11 PM
i dont understand.

wtf, burnt is a nice guy.

what he did????

give me a simple text what he has done?

wtf. chill ppl.

Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 12, 2019, 12:56:12 PM
He messages me on facebook you retarded newbie

Then you write about it here ... because you're an asshole (not a psychotherapist).

Nice.


His entire meltdown was about 1 game of war2 LOL

Nobody's meltdown is about one game of war2 you simpleton. Shhh grown-ups are talking.



Coming from someone who loses to computers lul
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 12, 2019, 12:59:57 PM
i dont understand.

wtf, burnt is a nice guy.

what he did????

give me a simple text what he has done?

wtf. chill ppl.



He won a game of war2, he believes it was swift smurfing. He then thinks Jordan hacked the game logs and and the log in's to the server or something to cover up that it was swift smurfing. Later on he thought Van had been kidnapped and that someone from war2 had set his lawn on fire and burned Van's tractors. LOL
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: tk[as] on October 12, 2019, 03:39:20 PM
Burnt made a live video last night.. saying war2 players got him under 24hr surveillance... watching everything he does. Everywhere he goes.

Y'all need to stop enabling him, and if you're close to him encourage him to get help for real
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Shotgun on October 13, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
LOL he just saw a car with "TK" in the number plate, he thinks it was tk spying on him, even tho the car is actually in front of him
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Lambchops on October 13, 2019, 08:36:38 AM
Then you write about it here ... because you're an asshole (not a psychotherapist).
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: Player on October 13, 2019, 09:21:49 AM
Shotgun must be in on this conspiracy against Burnt.
Title: Re: Unmute Burnt?
Post by: RipE[Eur0] on October 13, 2019, 11:00:12 AM
i dont understand.

wtf, burnt is a nice guy.

what he did????

give me a simple text what he has done?

wtf. chill ppl.



He won a game of war2, he believes it was swift smurfing. He then thinks Jordan hacked the game logs and and the log in's to the server or something to cover up that it was swift smurfing. Later on he thought Van had been kidnapped and that someone from war2 had set his lawn on fire and burned Van's tractors. LOL

Oh. If that is true sounds like psychosy from drugs overused or skitzophrenia. Not normal burnt. Give him time