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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: tk[as] on November 04, 2019, 05:18:49 PM

Title: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 04, 2019, 05:18:49 PM
Blid: Civil behavior is expected from players on this server.  We will not hand down punishment lightly, but repeated complaints against a user can result in a temporary or permanent ban at the discretion of our administrators.

tk: By civil, my idea is anything that's blatantly excessive and recurring. Standard shit talk on an online game is to be expected. Standard shit talk is not what this is about.

I think it's appropriate that any form of punishment (kicks, mutes, bans) is not only proportional to the offense, but should also require evidence supporting the punishment (screen shots particularly)

Just looking for common sense stuff here.

If a punishment is handed out by me or any other admin that is questionably an abuse of power, im sure iL will have no problem removing that admin like he has done in the past.

Yes - support common sense administrative action
No - don't support common sense administrative action
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: XuRnT on November 04, 2019, 05:25:08 PM
The community has been on a decline since tk came on as admin. He hasn't done anything for anyone but harrass me, and now harrass van.

Don't let your rights as players to trash talk be taken away!

I didn't log on right after that game and I have nothing to do with any of that bullshit.


(http://i.imgur.com/yug43ON.jpg)

This is the real reason they are targeting the vanimal. He called blid out about him and his friend 00jordan abusing his own ladder. Swift being a baby over losing to me so since they can't take me out they are on a witch hunt to take out my best friend and partner on the game.. The vanimal

Also reminder to those reading I was unfairly muted and attacked by these same admins and broke NO forum rules. I was muted for 30 days then a week before players petitioned to bring me back. They will do the same to you if you do not stand up for your rights while you still can. These guys are corrupt and must be stopped at all costs.

iL / Tora / Kagan and Warbux will be here to unban van

The vanimal will live on forever!



Signed-  x-DW-x)BuRnT( aka XuRnT aka The Dark Warrior aka The Outlaw!
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: LTFan on November 04, 2019, 06:15:29 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again. There is a large difference between trash talking and just being an awful person. There are a few people on this server who are just genuinely terrible people who do not deserve a place to play this game. Part of the reason I never log in anymore is because of these people. I never thought I would say this but good job TK on taking a stand for something that has needed to be done for quite a few years.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 04, 2019, 06:23:42 PM
thanks man
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: d0ng3rdik on November 04, 2019, 06:34:48 PM
Snowflakes
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: d0ng3rdik on November 04, 2019, 09:19:25 PM
my observation from reading the forums is you guys love thIs drama.

I have trouble understanding why anyone holds any value into what someone who doesn’t even know you personally says or invests any energy into standing up against a “bully” (random guy on the internet using it as an outlet for attention).

This type of trolling isn’t anything new, but sure does get the job done for the little effort it takes!

Do guys actually think he does this away for the computer.

Do you guys actually think burnt and van think they are good.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: brando on November 04, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
I used to enjoy playing war2.  I quit because I like to surround myself with positivity in everyday life.  War2 definitely does NOT supply positivity.  There is a difference between talking shit and pure evil toxicity.  The latter has what killed the game.  Good luck
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: XuRnT on November 04, 2019, 09:25:51 PM
The Best of P.C. Principal - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Vvc1nxlJb-o#)
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Winchester on November 04, 2019, 09:35:53 PM
or slash their throats while they sleep

You're the same person who attacked me  repeatedly after I told you he said that to me in more detail. Yet here you are, pretending once again like you care about what he said to me. If you wanna use examples of things you care about that he says, don't include what he said to me. It's very phoney. I don't like van, I want him banned as much as everyone else before you once again turn it into a "you support van! you're protecting him" argument after you get called out on being disingenuous. I defended him when you contacted his family, but that never changed my stance on if he should be banned.

Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Lambchops on November 05, 2019, 02:30:01 AM
LOL... tk gets called out for being a shitty admin and not ATTRACTING NEW PLAYERS like he said he was going to .... responds by attacking old players and wanting to ban them.

Some of the stuff van says is fully aweful and should be 100% bannable I said all of that years ago before the community got split .... but LMFAO at the sheer hypocracy. You all have been sledging trolling and straight out abusing people for years and openly defending the practice as policy.

How many new players did you find this week tk? .... none? ok ban an old one then ;D


-- edit --

I really do support this long overdue move in the right direction, you'll have to excuse my cynicism as to its origin ;)

And yes tk should 100% have his admin revoked for sitting in the channel publicly calling anyone's wife a meth-head. Surely our admins should be held to at least the same standard as the players. Great official representation there, way to grow the server and welcome new players. THAT STUFF SHOULD NEVER BE IN BLUE FONT IN THE MAIN CHANNEL

... seriously wtf? He's been abusing people for a decade and you support it then he says something about YOUR wife and you want to ban him? What a fkn hypocrite.

Ban both of them ... TK FIRST
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Winchester on November 05, 2019, 04:55:28 AM
You're a cheating loser and also have a weird obsession with trying to track people down and where they live using their ip. You're really creepy and people need to keep their children far away from you. Which cannot be said about the vanimal..
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 05, 2019, 07:37:55 AM
I honestly don't even read anything lambchops posts anymore. I'm pretty much at that point with burnt also.

On a side note, I did accidentally install has plugins in the 45 version of combat. Being able to see the map in the game Lobby was cool, but glitchy. It flashed on and off sporadically. The people's names when they join the check game was a nice touch. I was indifferent towards the text that appeared when you changed latency though.  Sometimes low-latency exacerbates lag, so it's not technically always the best.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Lambchops on November 05, 2019, 08:03:31 AM
I honestly don't even read anything lambchops posts anymore. I'm pretty much at that point with burnt also.


If you really don't read it then don't bother commenting that you don't .... just ignore it like I do every time Winchester does the weird stalking thing where he posts some crazy rant about me every time I post something ;)


On a side note, I did accidentally install has plugins in the 45 version of combat. Being able to see the map in the game Lobby was cool, but glitchy. It flashed on and off sporadically. The people's names when they join the check game was a nice touch. I was indifferent towards the text that appeared when you changed latency though.  Sometimes low-latency exacerbates lag, so it's not technically always the best.

I've never seen the lobby map flash on and off... not even sure it's possible TBH ( maybe with some other ddraw? but it still seems unlikely)

If it doesn't display immediately or after map dl just touch the race change and it will update the screen.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 05, 2019, 08:08:22 AM
Yeah.. when every response to anything I do is emotionally driven as opposed to logically thought out (because I didnt support your chop bars and strongly opposed your macro hacks) there's not much room for conversation.

I was streaming.. u can see the map flash in and out twitch.tv/war2teacher
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Winchester on November 05, 2019, 08:53:36 AM
If you really don't read it then don't bother commenting that you don't

As he says

like I do every time Winchester does the weird stalking thing where he posts some crazy rant

But you don't read it, but you magically know what it is right?

Back to the drawing board for what to lie about next rofl
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Winchester on November 05, 2019, 08:57:56 AM
Winchester does the weird stalking thing

says the  one basically stalking  every shotgun and tk post
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Lambchops on November 05, 2019, 06:54:55 PM
I was streaming.. u can see the map flash in and out twitch.tv/war2teacher

How about a title and timestamp? You want me to watch how many hours of you spitting in a can?
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Harrywangs on November 05, 2019, 08:19:31 PM
I'm a bit torn. I do very much dislike van and I throw insults back his way when he won't stfu but I mostly just make fun of how stupid he is and how terribly unoriginal his insults are. Believe it or not, last couple times van started trash talking me, HE was the one that wound up DNDing me, hahahah. Love it. Gets his last comment in then runs away with his tail between his legs.

Anyways, I understand where you guys are coming from. I do think he definitely crosses the line and mostly for no reason, just to get his jollies off, but I feel this is so subjective that I'm not sure how you can fairly be consistent about it. I don't mind shit talking or even if people get overly pissed and say bad things, but yes, he does it daily, spams you all day, during games, doesn't quit, and says pretty terrible things.

He is just looking for trouble. We got into it hardcore the other day b/c Truck disconnected and he goes, well, we win with trucks, and I say "probably" and that was all it took to set him off for the next 30mins, rofl. Guy has 0 emotional intelligence.

TK- I don't see any buttons to press to vote up top. I wouldn't perma ban him, but maybe we start low and work our way up to see if he gets the point. He has the potential to be a decent person (only reason I used to game w/him), he just exercises this potential very seldom.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: shesycompany on November 05, 2019, 10:06:31 PM
van is trolling prob running a lust build on you old war2 players
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: shesycompany on November 05, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
he becomes human now where talking
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 06, 2019, 12:10:27 PM
U got a ss wangs? Odd that u cant Vote.


Lamb - Map appears when you move mouse in game lobby. Disappear when you start typing in lobby chat
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Harrywangs on November 06, 2019, 08:20:26 PM
Works now, thanks though.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Lambchops on November 09, 2019, 07:23:34 PM
U got a ss wangs? Odd that u cant Vote.


Lamb - Map appears when you move mouse in game lobby. Disappear when you start typing in lobby chat

I can't vote either, but you can put me down for supporting supporting blid's rule and not supporting tk as being an appropriate person to administer it.

The map disappearing when you type was something that was happening in one of the first releases.

That allowed you to see the game name/pw if you wanted and nobody would really be studying the map and typing simultainiously, so I left it like that as an accidental "feature".

Later when I made the screen_update() hook procedure more efficient, it also stopped this effect. Personaly I preferred being able to see the game info, but hooking the in-game screen display should be as efficient as possible so I didn't worry about it.

If I was spending any time developing it I would probably add a hotkey to suppress the map display or something.

It appears iL has used an early version of LC.dll in the 4.5 release. If you want you can replace it with the current version (attached).
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: tk[as] on November 09, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
poll is closed now. 66.7% in favor of being mildly decent human being on server

18 in favor

9 against
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on November 20, 2019, 06:52:27 AM
This rule is adopted.
Title: Re: Does the community support the following rule:
Post by: van on November 20, 2019, 07:06:10 AM
Oh nooooow they say lmfao  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: