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Title: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 15, 2020, 06:13:38 AM
Hello,

Most people enjoy 2v2 alot more, they never play 1v1 or doesnt care about.

How about we get one 2v2 Master Tag challenge going.i would like it, do you guys think its a great idea or not?

Also wondering why 2v2 ladder isnt working anymore :(

Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Szwagier on January 15, 2020, 06:35:42 AM
Not bad idea but it should be diffrent icon, and would be nice if it wont be only one map, like it must be koth bo7 map can be picked twice
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 15, 2020, 06:44:14 AM
1v1 and 2v2 games are way different. We got many great 1v1 players but they dont know how to play team games on a high level. They are selfish and act stupid.
Alot are awesome at 2v2 thats because they dont know how to play 1v1 or well they just enjoy 2v2 games alot more.

And then we got players they are really good in 1s and 2s! But thats just a handful of players.

1v1: u8, shotgun, lux, jesk, steve....

2v2: u8, teaboy, lux, braviet, zapper, unforg1ven, tk, donger, mystical,alf, yoO, baraman, wargasm, ragner, ripe, harrywangs, equinox, dougs, its_hot, pimpster, ...

Just to name a few! In my opinion most are better 2s players. Its just compared to the 1s skill. For example shotgun should made the list in 2s also, but i think hes way better in 1s.

Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 15, 2020, 06:44:58 AM
Not bad idea but it should be diffrent icon, and would be nice if it wont be only one map, like it must be koth bo7 map can be picked twice


Yea ur right should be koth style and new icon, great idea 👍
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: RagneR on January 15, 2020, 08:33:28 AM
Great idea.  I like 2s and I play 2s better than 1s
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Shotgun on January 15, 2020, 09:50:17 AM
When you suck at 1s and want a masters tag.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 15, 2020, 10:04:03 AM
When you suck at 1s and want a masters tag.

Thats why u suck at 2s compared to your 1v1. Its played differently - some day ull know.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Shotgun on January 15, 2020, 10:18:09 AM
It's exactly the same, hard to play with people who don't think along the same lines though, IE are bad at 1s.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: tk[as] on January 15, 2020, 12:09:01 PM
You're not a team player .. if someone were to look at your 1v1 skill, and assume that would translate to your 2v2 skill, they would be in for a disappointment. Like half the games you lose in 2v2 are results of mistakes you made...we all watch  games. We all see it... but its somehow always your allies fault?

Team games is an extremely unselfish style. Not many 1v1 players easily adjust to that.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: tk[as] on January 15, 2020, 12:19:58 PM
I wish the team ladder was structured better... and actually working. Could give #1 ranked team a tag
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Delete ME NOW! on January 15, 2020, 12:22:35 PM
you have no idea how to play this game tk, why you try to give advice at people ur just fucking up ther head up.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: tk[as] on January 15, 2020, 12:46:55 PM
How would u know, we never played.. last time I let quakka play on my name vs u. He beat u 3x
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: RagneR on January 15, 2020, 02:23:03 PM
last time quakka let me to play on his name and I beat Eq 3x
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Szwagier on January 15, 2020, 02:25:44 PM
when eq loses it's because I played then
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 15, 2020, 07:28:41 PM
I do have a "doubles champ" icon that we could theoretically assign to 2v2 champions.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Shotgun on January 15, 2020, 08:07:25 PM
You're not a team player .. if someone were to look at your 1v1 skill, and assume that would translate to your 2v2 skill, they would be in for a disappointment. Like half the games you lose in 2v2 are results of mistakes you made...we all watch  games. We all see it... but its somehow always your allies fault?

Team games is an extremely unselfish style. Not many 1v1 players easily adjust to that.

terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 22:15:03 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:59:43 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#13 → #12) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 21:52:24 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:44:33 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#12 → #11) defeated ilyich[as] (#11 → #12) on "Garden of War" at 02:35:09 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 02:23:50 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 01:53:49 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#15 → #13) defeated ilyich[as] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 01:25:12 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 01:01:16 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#15) on "Garden of War" at 00:56:26 on 01/05/2020.

Yes your opinion means a lot because you're obviously a highly skilled player
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Harrywangs on January 15, 2020, 10:42:47 PM
Can everyone stop acting like a bunch of fucking high schoolers for one fucking minute and actually use this forum for what it is supposed to be for. Jesus christ, STFU already.

Knit, this is a great idea. I think it will be a lot more active than the 1v1s. I think those really died out a bit ago. COULD even have an icon for someone who has master in both 1v1 and 2v2.

But, we have to think of things like, if Harrywangs was master in all 6 (if that is the number) 2v2 teams, then how could anyone possibly be dethroned as you cannot play against yourself?

Then, the rule is maybe you can only be on 1 team? That will lead to other issues I'd rather not even mention because that will just fuel the fire for them.

Long story short, 2v2 masters are a little more complicated than 1v1 and we should be aware of it.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: tk[as] on January 15, 2020, 11:58:08 PM
Ilyich is a beast sg. Plus u8 was playing on his name the games he won
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: G3mini on January 16, 2020, 01:23:48 AM
You're not a team player .. if someone were to look at your 1v1 skill, and assume that would translate to your 2v2 skill, they would be in for a disappointment. Like half the games you lose in 2v2 are results of mistakes you made...we all watch  games. We all see it... but its somehow always your allies fault?

Team games is an extremely unselfish style. Not many 1v1 players easily adjust to that.

terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 22:15:03 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:59:43 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#13 → #12) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 21:52:24 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:44:33 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#12 → #11) defeated ilyich[as] (#11 → #12) on "Garden of War" at 02:35:09 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 02:23:50 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 01:53:49 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#15 → #13) defeated ilyich[as] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 01:25:12 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 01:01:16 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#15) on "Garden of War" at 00:56:26 on 01/05/2020.

Yes your opinion means a lot because you're obviously a highly skilled player


ilyich[as] (#15) defeated Shotgun (#62) on "Garden of War" 04:55:11 on 11/11/2019.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 16, 2020, 04:26:06 AM
Can everyone stop acting like a bunch of fucking high schoolers for one fucking minute and actually use this forum for what it is supposed to be for. Jesus christ, STFU already.

Knit, this is a great idea. I think it will be a lot more active than the 1v1s. I think those really died out a bit ago. COULD even have an icon for someone who has master in both 1v1 and 2v2.

But, we have to think of things like, if Harrywangs was master in all 6 (if that is the number) 2v2 teams, then how could anyone possibly be dethroned as you cannot play against yourself?

Then, the rule is maybe you can only be on 1 team? That will lead to other issues I'd rather not even mention because that will just fuel the fire for them.

Long story short, 2v2 masters are a little more complicated than 1v1 and we should be aware of it.

Thanks for your words.
Also i dont think 2s complicated.
For example: Harrywangs and Braviet are 2v2 masters. They lose bo7 series vs u8 and teaboy -> new champs are u8/teaboy.

Next week you could challenge them to a master series. This time ur ally is someone else like ragner.
Now ranger is ur master champ ally till you lose your tags. ( if theres only one Master tag for 2s around )

Also like u guys said, we gonna think about an icon, if some1 helds both 1s and 2s master tags
Any ideas?

Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 16, 2020, 05:40:29 AM
Also i think there should be max. 2 master tags around.  Obv you arent able to get both. :)
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Shotgun on January 16, 2020, 06:49:46 AM
You're not a team player .. if someone were to look at your 1v1 skill, and assume that would translate to your 2v2 skill, they would be in for a disappointment. Like half the games you lose in 2v2 are results of mistakes you made...we all watch  games. We all see it... but its somehow always your allies fault?

Team games is an extremely unselfish style. Not many 1v1 players easily adjust to that.

terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 22:15:03 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:59:43 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#13 → #12) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 21:52:24 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#11) defeated ilyich[as] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 21:44:33 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#12 → #11) defeated ilyich[as] (#11 → #12) on "Garden of War" at 02:35:09 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 02:23:50 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#12) on "Garden of War" at 01:53:49 on 01/05/2020.
terrorkahn[AS] (#15 → #13) defeated ilyich[as] (#11) on "Garden of War" at 01:25:12 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#13) on "Garden of War" at 01:01:16 on 01/05/2020.
ilyich[as] (#11) defeated terrorkahn[AS] (#15) on "Garden of War" at 00:56:26 on 01/05/2020.

Yes your opinion means a lot because you're obviously a highly skilled player


ilyich[as] (#15) defeated Shotgun (#62) on "Garden of War" 04:55:11 on 11/11/2019.



    hurt (#28 → #23) defeated Teaboy (#19) on "Garden of War" at 22:23:15 on 01/04/2020.
    Teaboy (#19) defeated hurt (#23) on "Garden of War" at 21:59:34 on 01/04/2020.
    hurt (#23 → #21) defeated Teaboy (#19) on "Garden of War" at 21:45:42 on 01/04/2020.

Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Szwagier on January 16, 2020, 10:09:07 AM
lot of games in gow are playing 1x1 + 1x1, or one team got very bad spot

in 1x1 its possible to win from any spot, in 2x2 is much harder like 4 8 vs 5 12

I think gow old shouldnt be main map in 2x2 for master tag
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: UNF0RG1VEN on January 16, 2020, 01:04:12 PM
you have no idea how to play this game tk, why you try to give advice at people ur just fucking up ther head up.
Give u8 and teaboy the tags or make a tourney for it
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Harrywangs on January 16, 2020, 08:44:18 PM
U8, as much as I agree, GOW is a horse shit map that needs the slightest alterations to make it much more even while not losing the total uniqueness of each spot (okay, maybe you didn't exactly say that), the truth is, everyone plays it and it is by far the most played map.

I think, if you take GOW out of the equation, you take everyone's interest out of it as well.

I still don't understand why the slightest changes cannot be accepted by the GOW community.

Take away the chop at 8, so you can hall right away, take away chop at 4, so you can mine properly, make more grass 1 spot at 6 so that you aren't 1 extra space away from the mine, and right there, you've mostly fixed the map while not losing its integrity. I guess this is a different topic though.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Knitter on January 16, 2020, 09:00:58 PM
U8, as much as I agree, GOW is a horse shit map that needs the slightest alterations to make it much more even while not losing the total uniqueness of each spot (okay, maybe you didn't exactly say that), the truth is, everyone plays it and it is by far the most played map.

I think, if you take GOW out of the equation, you take everyone's interest out of it as well.

I still don't understand why the slightest changes cannot be accepted by the GOW community.

Take away the chop at 8, so you can hall right away, take away chop at 4, so you can mine properly, make more grass 1 spot at 6 so that you aren't 1 extra space away from the mine, and right there, you've mostly fixed the map while not losing its integrity. I guess this is a different topic though.

Gow is great how it is... if u change the map u dont have epic s9 vs 9 battles, scouting is easier and it isnt the same.
Just make it koth style bo7 ( loser picks map ) , a map can be choosen once.


Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Harrywangs on January 16, 2020, 09:24:05 PM
I'm not sure I'd agree with that. I think MANY people would still go s9. 8 is still a wide open base but at least it's an option now and not a dead give away that s9 is expanding, when you see the chop.

And another option would mean you would need to scout more, not less, so scouting is harder, not easier.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Delete ME NOW! on January 16, 2020, 10:01:21 PM
Nobody cares about s9 9 and old gow... Stop being delusionaly take out of the real probleme here.

Peoples like u8 who have free acces to mpq to change everything about the game and get advantage on us.

Thats the real probleme.

Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Szwagier on January 17, 2020, 02:56:00 AM
Nobody cares about s9 9 and old gow... Stop being delusionaly take out of the real probleme here.

Peoples like u8 who have free acces to mpq to change everything about the game and get advantage on us.

Thats the real probleme.




I Think it will be better for community if u will stop playing
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Delete ME NOW! on January 17, 2020, 01:23:42 PM
Nobody cares about s9 9 and old gow... Stop being delusionaly take out of the real probleme here.

Peoples like u8 who have free acces to mpq to change everything about the game and get advantage on us.

Thats the real probleme.


I Think it will be better for community if u will stop playing

Funny but i pretty think the same about you....

Do you know how this game would be if we get rid of you?

No more little scum bag spamming our lobby game and forum with ur shitty language that no one understand.

No more little scum bag to edit the mpq and abuse of those low brain peoples that dont understand anything.

No more little cheater that have no respect for the community and just try to rob every tournaments and league he can.

No more little cheater that swap account and build in game to corrup the ladder and help his little friends.

I'ts gonna be years you do exactly what you want and everyone let you do...

For 2 years we told you to use anti hack and you dint cares about nobody, you have no respect for no one.

You just here doing everything you want, your so much in ur stupid dream that now you want to pull off old gow from a 2v2 tournament.

Dude ur a damn fucking joke, go edit ur mpq little cheater.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Shotgun on January 17, 2020, 01:30:49 PM
Can't we all just get along  :sob:
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Harrywangs on January 17, 2020, 06:16:50 PM
Admin, can we start deleting posts that have nothing to do with the forum topic? This is just stupid at this point.

Go back to your original forum and argue. People are trying to do other things here and you are being disrespectful by starting another topic that's been discussed for over 23 pages in the last one.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 18, 2020, 07:41:16 AM
Admin, can we start deleting posts that have nothing to do with the forum topic? This is just stupid at this point.

Go back to your original forum and argue. People are trying to do other things here and you are being disrespectful by starting another topic that's been discussed for over 23 pages in the last one.

Yes stay on topic please. Or go troll in the general section.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: KagaN on January 18, 2020, 10:27:41 AM
just challenge current best team (u8/tea), koth bo7, losers pick map.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 18, 2020, 01:34:30 PM
2v2 master tag huh. Can someone make a new Icon?

I think it is a good idea to have a 2v2 league similar to the 1v1 master tag challenge. But I don't think it's a good idea to use the same icon.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: ~ToRa~ on January 18, 2020, 01:37:12 PM
Or I guess we could just use master tags....I does look like that's what @Harrywangs and @Knitter are pushing for.
Title: Re: 2v2 Master Tag
Post by: Szwagier on January 18, 2020, 02:58:54 PM
maybe double champ?

https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5483.0.html