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Title: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 06:01:20 PM
U8 is getting raped so hard since 2 days by a rusty swift, just believe how it will be even worst if he dint hacks the mpq and swift was not rusty..

Anyway, i always told it, that dude is trash, hacking the mpq is the only reason why that guy look good.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 06:33:19 PM
you never have anything good to say about anyone. so angry.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 06:46:52 PM
I love alot of peoples not just little trash cheaters like you u8 and iL, go fuck yourself with a beer newbe.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 07:19:06 PM
Now I cheat?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 07:24:17 PM
Cheating or supporting cheater is the same thing.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 07:42:21 PM
You support/love shotgun who alledgedly uses mpq mods?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 07:44:14 PM
You support/love shotgun who alledgedly uses mpq mods?

First of all where are the proofs, second wich kind of mpq edition?

Is that a public edition that everyone can acces and download without any probleme, or did he edit himself the mpq.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 07:46:08 PM
I dont support anyone who uses them just to be clear.. I think even using double le click is for newbs who cant win without it...

My point is just that you are awfully angry about something that really doesn't even matter too much. It's a game of Warcraft 2. If somebody is so desperate to win that they are willing to manipulate things that give them an unfair advantage that says they have a problem with themselves. With their character. you should not make it your problem. No reason to spam the forums and always get so angry about everything
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 07:53:53 PM
I dont support anyone who uses them just to be clear.. I think even using double le click is for newbs who cant win without it...

My point is just that you are awfully angry about something that really doesn't even matter too much. It's a game of Warcraft 2. If somebody is so desperate to win that they are willing to manipulate things that give them an unfair advantage that says they have a problem with themselves. With their character. you should not make it your problem. No reason to spam the forums and always get so angry about everything

Dude your here making accusation about shotgun and asking me question and when i answer you your totally avoiding the subject and get over your shitty non sens opinion.

Gtfo if you cant Handle a real discussion without trying to manipulate peoples.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 08:01:57 PM
i said allegedly .. i have no clue if its true or not.

whats your proof that u8 is making mpq edits that give him unfair advantage? What mpq edits specifically?

I watch his stream and it seems obvious to me he is just making better moves. playing smarter.. and he is doing it with humans most of the time
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 08:04:26 PM
i said allegedly .. i have no clue if its true or not.

whats your proof that u8 is making mpq edits that give him unfair advantage? What mpq edits specifically?

I watch his stream and it seems obvious to me he is just making better moves. playing smarter.. and he is doing it with humans most of the time

Then stfu if you dont know shit, actually just shut the fuck up if you dont cares, why are you here speaking with me if you dont cares?

Cuz actually you dont cares about my opinion, but you cares about manipulating peoples with your own opinions, gtfo, i got no time for you anymore.

Go cry for equinox next time the entire community bash on you and im the only one to protect your god damn newbe ass.

your done with me, end.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 08:06:19 PM
so you accuse me of dodging your question, and then you have absolutely no logical answer to my question, so you dodge it and tell me to stfu.


got it.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 08:07:26 PM
so you accuse me of dodging your question, and then you have absolutely no logical answer to my question, so you dodge it and tell me to stfu.


got it.

Your a rat, your not here to speak about that your here trying to manipulate peoples, go manipulate someone else, cya, none neutral rat.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
no you're trying to manipulate people.

many times you have accused swift of hacking in the past. many many times... but as soon as he beats someone who want him to beat, you say nothing about it. just happy he beat someone you dont like.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 08:15:03 PM
no you're trying to manipulate people.

many times you have accused swift of hacking in the past. many many times... but as soon as he beats someone who want him to beat, you say nothing about it. just happy he beat someone you dont like.

I have always say truth and even swift understand that, i have never accuse swift of hacking at the moment, i have accuse swift of hacking in the past and i say he have to proof himself as the best player ever without hacks... Because past mean no shit anymore and there players who get better every day.  But you dont listen shit since years bro... You just listen whatever the fuck you want like everybody else cuz your all rats.

I was not mad at swift because he hacked in the past, i was mad at swift because tora give him LEGEND ICON and he never own ANY TOURNAMENT for it and he just literally accept it like a coward instead of deserve it like everyone.

Your a little bitch tk, you dont even listen what peoples say, your here drinking everyday talking about your god damn wife and crying like a bitch when van talk about her.

Your here supporting hacker and making your super cool opinion about it, oh we dont cares about it, its not a probleme, nobody cares, but we cares so much that you cares, you have to stop that, your hungry man, just shut your mouth bro, just let them hacks everyone and brag about how good they are...

Fuck off bro, go play your shitty hacking games and leave me alone if you cant be a fucking man and stand on your 2 damn fucking legs.

Go suck some u8 nuts now.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 03, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
you super angry... the only reason anyone wants to hear it is because they are laughing at it. not because they take any of it seriously
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 03, 2020, 08:18:57 PM
you super angry... the only reason anyone wants to hear it is because they are laughing at it. not because they take any of it seriously

I prefere to be hungry compare to an hypocrite cheater liar.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 04, 2020, 01:43:53 AM
you super angry... the only reason anyone wants to hear it is because they are laughing at it. not because they take any of it seriously

Who care about newb eq, when he is losing vs someone he allways cry  and accuse like last time braviet

Just ignore him and let him play in his shit
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 04, 2020, 02:11:30 AM
you super angry... the only reason anyone wants to hear it is because they are laughing at it. not because they take any of it seriously

Who care about newb eq, when he is losing vs someone he allways cry  and accuse like last time braviet

Just ignore him and let him play in his shit

Some peoples told me your love getting type by peoples now??!!!

Hacking the mpq is not enouph vs swift, need typing now?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 04, 2020, 07:17:16 AM
you talking so much about proof proof proof. where is your proof??

i've played polish a lot. never have i suspected any of them of ever even having the desire to tip eachother, or wanting to be tipped. watch u8 stream and see if there's anything suspicious at all if you think he was being tipped.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Droid on March 04, 2020, 10:09:41 AM
I watched some u8—Swift 1s games, those were the best 1s gow games I've ever seen, and by the way u8 won 1/3 of them as far as I remember. Dziękuję!
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 04, 2020, 10:46:44 AM
I think they're  10-6 this week. Backdor leading
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 04, 2020, 11:48:43 AM
I think they're  10-6 this week. Backdor leading
11-7
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Harrywangs on March 04, 2020, 08:44:56 PM
This forum needs some god damned moderation. Every single post turns into an argument that is not related and goes off topic. Is anyone in charge of that?!!??!!?!?!? (Btw this is off topic too) :)
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 05, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
For TK. I tried to explain you how editing the MPQ for hotkeys is a big advantage but its hard to do it in a chat, so heres the explanation.

With a keyboard which allows to change hotkeys, you could make pressing o press q instead for example. So that now you press q to make ogres. Same thing for all other hotkeys, p for peon is now w instead, etc. But its still only 1 key --> becomes another key. You still need to use the same amount of hotkeys as before, you just changed the keys.

By editing the MPQ you can do much better things :

Example :

q makes an peon when you have an hall selected,
but it also makes an ogre when you have a barrack selected.
It also do bloodlust when you have an ogre selected
It also do d&dk when you have a DK selected
it also do "stand ground" when you have a grunt selected
it also make "gather resources" when you have a peon selected
also uprgades weapon when you have smith selected
also upgrade ogremage when you have an altar selected
also upgrade to hold when you have a hall selected
also upgrade to fort when you have an hold selected
etc etc etc

So basically with one key you can have dozens of different action DEPENDING on the unit/building selected.

Thats very strong because it allows you to map most actions with only 2 different keys, the only ones you still kindda need to use other keys is for units that have a lot of actions like peons and all their building actions.

So basically, aside for constructing building you only need 2 hotkeys, which means your hand can stay at the same spot on the keyboard and it makes it much, much easier to use control group cause you stay close to that area on the keyboard.

Its a tremendous advantage.

Any serious game competition wouldn't allow to edit their game files. Just imagine going in a live tournament in korea. You go on the stage and before the game begin you're like "wait wait wait lemme download that mpq editor to change the game files a little before we start plz. Will only take 5 minutes!" You'd be kicked out of the place.

U8 is no doubt a great player. Probably the smartest around and very entertaining to watch.

But let's not pretend that editing the MPQ file doesn't give him an advantage.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 05, 2020, 04:26:04 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 05, 2020, 05:03:27 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones

You sure? The game by default has the same hotkeys for multiple actions.

T to build temple and to stand ground
G to build grunt and to gather resources
B to train bloodlust and use bloodlust
M to train ogremage and to make mages

If all you do in the mpq is change hotkeys then why edit the mpq to begin with when you can use a simple autohotkey script instead?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 05, 2020, 05:14:33 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones

You sure? The game by default has the same hotkeys for multiple actions.

T to build temple and to stand ground
G to build grunt and to gather resources
B to train bloodlust and use bloodlust
M to train ogremage and to make mages

If all you do in the mpq is change hotkeys then why edit the mpq to begin with when you can use a simple autohotkey script instead?

i mean you cant make q for grunt and q for ogre in rax,

it was easier to me cause I wanted edit campaign


w2 got  control panel 3x3 so I got qweasdzxc
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 05:16:27 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones

You sure? The game by default has the same hotkeys for multiple actions.

T to build temple and to stand ground
G to build grunt and to gather resources
B to train bloodlust and use bloodlust
M to train ogremage and to make mages

If all you do in the mpq is change hotkeys then why edit the mpq to begin with when you can use a simple autohotkey script instead?

Bro it's not even about the hotkeys, we should even not cares about that, the real thing here, is.... Like you say... There no serious game in the entire world who would allow the public to acces there multiplayer gaming files and change the script for whatever they want. Those mpq files have to be close from public, period.

It's not a question of hotkeys, i want everyone to have the abilitys to choose there own hotkeys... But they are too retard and proud of themself to say yeah Equinox is right.

Why is iL not making an add-on wich everyone have acces to it and can download it and modify is own hotkey as there wish??

Because they are too fucking retard bro... they are doing useless things in different language and waste there time for useless actions... And those europeans morons just support those kind of behavior because they are the true racist and they dont cares about us.

They are there crying like little bitch because i say europeans players are stupid,,, it's not racist, it's just what it look... The true racist are them, making there private forum, private league, private tournament, private website, private version of the game, private language, private hotkeys... I mean..... It's a kinda joke to be honnest.

Dont even ask yourself why U8 have played 2 years without the ANTI-Hack version, probably because it was easier and better for editing the mpq with the old version.

That dude is a fucking cheater bro, whatever you say hes gonna try to make you look as a dumb and all those morons gonna say * who cares about hacking * dont even waste your time, they are all morons, non legit players, cheaters and racist.

Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: tk[as] on March 05, 2020, 05:19:50 PM
So ask @Zelya to look at the warvid and see if u8 using 1 button for multiple functions like @KaNuKs~ described??

And if not. Apologize eq?


Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 05, 2020, 05:22:28 PM
So ask @Zelya to look at the warvid and see if u8 using 1 button for multiple functions like @KaNuKs~ described??

And if not. Apologize eq?




sure he can
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: maciek on March 05, 2020, 05:26:58 PM
Or just watch replay on twitch. There is option 0.5 speed. In eq opinion making hard campaign by editing mpq = cheating.
Nobody knows what is that cheating you keep talking about - give examples...
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 05:27:20 PM
So ask @Zelya to look at the warvid and see if u8 using 1 button for multiple functions like @KaNuKs~ described??

And if not. Apologize eq?

Nobody cares about what kanuks say, its not even a point..

Just the fact that he can edit hotkeys as he wich is a cheat...

Dont need to bind hotkeys to get advantage....

Just making all the hotkeys in the same range of the keyboard is advantage...

If i want my Q to be K because my hand mouvement is faster that way it became an advantage...

If i put ALL My hotkeys in THE K range its even MORE..

All those quick hotkeys make you gain mili sec on every sec and confortability.

Like i got alot of probleme with making little wall cuz my hotkeys is way to far in the right of my keyboard, if i was able to switch that hotkeys it will be AMAZING...

I also got probleme with my hotkey O... Because my O is For making ogers, but it ALSO for my KILL ROG EYE.... So when i create ogers with my barrack something i HIT the Ogers and my ogers made a killrogg eyes, that killrogg eyes cost me magic and i cant lust for a minutes because of that...

There alot of reason why it can be an advantage for someone, and we dont know because we all have different language, so we dont know at all what it can change for someone....

And all those MILI SEC advantages in a 25 minutes games... Make you a 3-4 minutes advantage on your opponnents..... 3-4 minutes advantages over your ennemies IS ALOTT DUDE....

Now it must look pretty uselss for an early players games, but it became really important for a mid and late game players....

Thats why trash player like U8 can stand with 260+ APM players in late game even if he cant go over 200 apm hahahaha

Now like i say, its not only about the hotkeys, it's about the MPQ ITSELF... Nobody in public should have acces to that files and edit the multiplayers games...

PERIOD.

Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 05, 2020, 05:30:36 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones

You sure? The game by default has the same hotkeys for multiple actions.

T to build temple and to stand ground
G to build grunt and to gather resources
B to train bloodlust and use bloodlust
M to train ogremage and to make mages

If all you do in the mpq is change hotkeys then why edit the mpq to begin with when you can use a simple autohotkey script instead?

i mean you cant make q for grunt and q for ogre in rax,

it was easier to me cause I wanted edit campaign


w2 got  control panel 3x3 so I got qweasdzxc

Of course you can't its the same building, but can you make q for grunts and q for Death knight?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: maciek on March 05, 2020, 05:35:10 PM
show rule that you can't change hotkeys
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
show rule that you can't change hotkeys

There no fucking rule about it, thats the probleme idiot.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: maciek on March 05, 2020, 06:14:07 PM
There no fucking rule about it, thats the probleme idiot.
so you made up your own rule and started persuading people it's cheating
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 05, 2020, 06:15:50 PM
There no fucking rule about it, thats the probleme idiot.
so you made up your own rule and started persuading people it's cheating

You can change them, just dont modify the game files.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 06:27:09 PM
There no fucking rule about it, thats the probleme idiot.
so you made up your own rule and started persuading people it's cheating

iT'S not my own rules, it's a easports rules.... There no game in the world where public acces and modify multiplayer games for there own purpose.

And the fact that is not a rules here cuz admins are stupid retards dont mean you have to be a fucking coward like U8 and get advantage of that overs normal peoples.

This is a coward behavior, he is the true one who show no respect to nobody.

You measure the respect by words, i measure the respect by behavior, you think cuz i call some peoples stupid i am a monster, i think the real monster is the guy who get advantage over everyone because there a lack on rules and he just dont cares about nobody.

Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: maciek on March 05, 2020, 06:36:29 PM
And the fact that is not a rules here cuz admins are stupid retards dont mean you have to be a fucking coward like U8 and get advantage of that overs normal peoples
I would like to know specifically what this advantage is. Show example
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 06:47:25 PM
And the fact that is not a rules here cuz admins are stupid retards dont mean you have to be a fucking coward like U8 and get advantage of that overs normal peoples
I would like to know specifically what this advantage is. Show example

The advantage of editing mpq overs normal peoples and make the game as you wish for your personal purpose?? Are you really retard?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: maciek on March 05, 2020, 07:11:14 PM
The advantage of editing mpq overs normal peoples and make the game as you wish for your personal purpose?? Are you really retard?
so tell me, does u8 have extra strong ogres or what? You can't even answer because your only argument is ability to edit mpq.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Cel on March 05, 2020, 07:37:19 PM
You are wrong about that though,
You do not have to look very far into warcraft3 competitive scene to see all pro players had their hotkeys files saved and modified outside the game and hotkeys in war3 could be very very complex and dramatically change the game.

Yes some tournaments do forbid certain modifications but that is the rules of these tourneys specifically, now you can also do that host a tourney where you forbid players to use custom hotkeys.
Hell you could even make a tourney where you forbid players from using lust if you wanted to.
That does not mean players that use lust in their games cheat outside of your tourney.

Now I do not use hotkeys myself but if you really feel that you are at a unfair disadvantage no one is stopping you from making your own hotkeys or even use some other person's setup.

One last thing:

This is an old game keep the good vibes and stay positive do not assume the worst out of other people.
At the end of the day we all play the game because we love it and there are not many left that still do, so lets do our best to get the good out of what we have.
Now you do not have to love everyone but you do not have to stay focused on people you don't like and keep spreading your hate all the time either.
There is no point being so negative just avoid people you don't appreciate and stop being childish.

Imagine going to a restaurant just to order the one thing you hate every single time, no one is forcing you to do that you are doing it to yourself...
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 05, 2020, 08:42:23 PM
You cant pick 2 options in one key, it wont work

w2 is too small to got "big tournament in korea", you know that in modern games, people got their own hotkeys? like w3? and they can use their hotkeys in tournament

and I edited it 3? years ago, so still I was top player, I could beat braviet with normal hotkeys, people dont care about it, there was few topic about hotkeys, ragner gave link to edit hotkeys

and the worst is that you have to learn them again because you will want to use the old ones

You sure? The game by default has the same hotkeys for multiple actions.

T to build temple and to stand ground
G to build grunt and to gather resources
B to train bloodlust and use bloodlust
M to train ogremage and to make mages

If all you do in the mpq is change hotkeys then why edit the mpq to begin with when you can use a simple autohotkey script instead?

i mean you cant make q for grunt and q for ogre in rax,

it was easier to me cause I wanted edit campaign


w2 got  control panel 3x3 so I got qweasdzxc

Of course you can't its the same building, but can you make q for grunts and q for Death knight?

yes
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 05, 2020, 08:47:27 PM
Ok so im right in that you can change hotkeys to have dozens of different actions on the same key, depending on buildings/units selected.

That is a massive advantage. Way more than just changing hotkeys. Thats changing base hotkeys for every units so that you can cross-hotkeys between different units/buildings.

I could think of ways to have 2 hotkeys for about 40 different actions.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 05, 2020, 08:58:36 PM
You are wrong about that though,
You do not have to look very far into warcraft3 competitive scene to see all pro players had their hotkeys files saved and modified outside the game and hotkeys in war3 could be very very complex and dramatically change the game.

Yes some tournaments do forbid certain modifications but that is the rules of these tourneys specifically, now you can also do that host a tourney where you forbid players to use custom hotkeys.
Hell you could even make a tourney where you forbid players from using lust if you wanted to.
That does not mean players that use lust in their games cheat outside of your tourney.

Now I do not use hotkeys myself but if you really feel that you are at a unfair disadvantage no one is stopping you from making your own hotkeys or even use some other person's setup.

One last thing:

This is an old game keep the good vibes and stay positive do not assume the worst out of other people.
At the end of the day we all play the game because we love it and there are not many left that still do, so lets do our best to get the good out of what we have.
Now you do not have to love everyone but you do not have to stay focused on people you don't like and keep spreading your hate all the time either.
There is no point being so negative just avoid people you don't appreciate and stop being childish.

Imagine going to a restaurant just to order the one thing you hate every single time, no one is forcing you to do that you are doing it to yourself...

W3 is an old game, thats the reason why there no custom hotkeys integrate in the game, same as warcraft II.

You have also to consider at that time E-Sports was not even existing yet, so competitive mode was not take that seriously.

But since 2012, every new games have custom hotkeys intergrate in there game, cuz they understand the difference it make in a competitive level.

So EVERYONE HAVE ACCES TO IT, without having to edit THE MPQ or download any other external software.

Now, if iL want to make us an ADD-on like warcraft III where everyone is able to gain acces on it and download it legitly on the website without editing the mpq.... It will be fine... Everyone will have acces to custom hotkeys and everyone will be able to download it.

You just cant say, EVERYONE CAN DO IT, because it's not true... It's a fucking lie and manipulation to say everyone can have custom hotkeys if they want...

Cuz the only way to have custom hotkeys right now, is by editing the mpq, and if your not a programmer and you dont know shit about mpq files, you will never be able to have those custom hotkeys... While little cowards like u8 abuse of that and call peoples stupid because they cant edit mpq themself.

We are not all programmars and we dont have to follow and study to have custom hotkeys like U8...

Im not comming here for doing programmation, im here to play, and i want to play at the same stage of everyone.

IF U8 Want custom Hotkeys, i got no fucking probleme with that, but everyone need acces to it..... NOT ONLY U8 AND A COUPLE OF PROGRAMMARS.

This is cowards behavior, this is cheater behavior, this is little rat behavior..

He know peoples dont know how to edit the mpq and he dont cares, he abbuse of that to gain advantage over everyone and its a coward behavior.

Period!

Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Shotgun on March 06, 2020, 03:56:57 AM
You support/love shotgun who alledgedly uses mpq mods?

tk is pe0n_you? He is the only one who goes on with this dribble :D
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 06, 2020, 04:09:36 AM
Ok so im right in that you can change hotkeys to have dozens of different actions on the same key, depending on buildings/units selected.

That is a massive advantage. Way more than just changing hotkeys. Thats changing base hotkeys for every units so that you can cross-hotkeys between different units/buildings.

I could think of ways to have 2 hotkeys for about 40 different actions.

You still dont know how work qweasdzxc, w2 got square 3x3 for action  q is move w is stop e is attack a is patrol s stand ground etc

Advantage would be if I could select 4 rax in same time and make ogres faster than player who need click 4 times on rax and 4 times ogre, there are diffrent version w2, ita, ger they got diffrent hotkeys

There is no advantage when player is using lust with hotkey b or x or any hotkey, advantage is when someone is using double click
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Zelya on March 06, 2020, 09:22:06 AM
@Equinox, please tell me about French AZERTY keyboard, is it cheat or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/KB_France.svg)
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 06, 2020, 10:35:39 AM
@Equinox, please tell me about French AZERTY keyboard, is it cheat or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/KB_France.svg)

Thats why people bring their mouses keyboards to offline tournaments
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: KaNuKs~ on March 06, 2020, 12:14:00 PM
Ok so im right in that you can change hotkeys to have dozens of different actions on the same key, depending on buildings/units selected.

That is a massive advantage. Way more than just changing hotkeys. Thats changing base hotkeys for every units so that you can cross-hotkeys between different units/buildings.

I could think of ways to have 2 hotkeys for about 40 different actions.

You still dont know how work qweasdzxc, w2 got square 3x3 for action  q is move w is stop e is attack a is patrol s stand ground etc

Advantage would be if I could select 4 rax in same time and make ogres faster than player who need click 4 times on rax and 4 times ogre, there are diffrent version w2, ita, ger they got diffrent hotkeys

There is no advantage when player is using lust with hotkey b or x or any hotkey, advantage is when someone is using double click

LOL are you real? There is no advantage? Why the fuck do you do it? You bind like 20 different actions to ONE key. Not an advantage at all right?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 06, 2020, 12:43:56 PM
Ok so im right in that you can change hotkeys to have dozens of different actions on the same key, depending on buildings/units selected.

That is a massive advantage. Way more than just changing hotkeys. Thats changing base hotkeys for every units so that you can cross-hotkeys between different units/buildings.

I could think of ways to have 2 hotkeys for about 40 different actions.

You still dont know how work qweasdzxc, w2 got square 3x3 for action  q is move w is stop e is attack a is patrol s stand ground etc

Advantage would be if I could select 4 rax in same time and make ogres faster than player who need click 4 times on rax and 4 times ogre, there are diffrent version w2, ita, ger they got diffrent hotkeys

There is no advantage when player is using lust with hotkey b or x or any hotkey, advantage is when someone is using double click

LOL are you real? There is no advantage? Why the fuck do you do it? You bind like 20 different actions to ONE key. Not an advantage at all right?

I see you didnt play any game with keys like w3 or sc:r

this is my special keyboard for w2

https://me.me/i/skeleton-kings-keyboard-dotajokes-dota-dota2-dota2memes-dota2official-dota2meme-1756983
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: baRa on March 06, 2020, 02:29:14 PM
Hey EQ when is your new server starting?

PS who gives a shit about what u8 does. The fact hes claiming to be the top player when there are 60 total players including chop and customs players is sad. Kids like him and swift play 10 hrs a day, no shit they will be good. When i was 14 i played 8+ hrs everyday no problem.

Back when u8 was using szwagier he was getting raped by the likes of me no problem. 2009-2012ish. The fact that grownups still play this for 10+ hrs a day is pathetic. Get a life dudes
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: ~ToRa~ on March 06, 2020, 08:04:13 PM
@Szwagier any replays of these games?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 06, 2020, 08:15:01 PM
Ok so im right in that you can change hotkeys to have dozens of different actions on the same key, depending on buildings/units selected.

That is a massive advantage. Way more than just changing hotkeys. Thats changing base hotkeys for every units so that you can cross-hotkeys between different units/buildings.

I could think of ways to have 2 hotkeys for about 40 different actions.

You still dont know how work qweasdzxc, w2 got square 3x3 for action  q is move w is stop e is attack a is patrol s stand ground etc

Advantage would be if I could select 4 rax in same time and make ogres faster than player who need click 4 times on rax and 4 times ogre, there are diffrent version w2, ita, ger they got diffrent hotkeys

There is no advantage when player is using lust with hotkey b or x or any hotkey, advantage is when someone is using double click

LOL are you real? There is no advantage? Why the fuck do you do it? You bind like 20 different actions to ONE key. Not an advantage at all right?

Dont waste your time he is an arrogant cheater liar.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 06, 2020, 08:16:09 PM
Hey EQ when is your new server starting?

PS who gives a shit about what u8 does. The fact hes claiming to be the top player when there are 60 total players including chop and customs players is sad. Kids like him and swift play 10 hrs a day, no shit they will be good. When i was 14 i played 8+ hrs everyday no problem.

Back when u8 was using szwagier he was getting raped by the likes of me no problem. 2009-2012ish. The fact that grownups still play this for 10+ hrs a day is pathetic. Get a life dudes

If i make a new server it will spread the communauty and it's not my goal, my goal is to get this one the best as we can, but we need to get rid of useless admins.
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Szwagier on March 07, 2020, 06:29:58 AM
@Szwagier any replays of these games?
you can rewatch on twitch
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Lambchops on March 07, 2020, 07:47:07 AM
For TK. I tried to explain you how editing the MPQ for hotkeys is a big advantage but its hard to do it in a chat, so heres the explanation.

With a keyboard which allows to change hotkeys, you could make pressing o press q instead for example. So that now you press q to make ogres. Same thing for all other hotkeys, p for peon is now w instead, etc. But its still only 1 key --> becomes another key. You still need to use the same amount of hotkeys as before, you just changed the keys.

By editing the MPQ you can do much better things :

Example :

q makes an peon when you have an hall selected,
but it also makes an ogre when you have a barrack selected.
It also do bloodlust when  .../snip/..... Its a tremendous advantage.

And all those MILI SEC advantages in a 25 minutes games... Make you a 3-4 minutes advantage on your opponnents..... 3-4 minutes advantages over your ennemies IS ALOTT DUDE...

LOL

changing hotkeys like that might give you a VERY small advantage if you relearned years of instincts... pretty sure it would make me play a lot worse for a while until i got the hang of it.

 .... BUT ....

If you want to get serious about stopping cheating you have to stop autoit/ahk. It's all so much trash talk until you do that.

Compare this tiny mpq editing advantage to the following script outline...

Image search the left pane for the barracks icon to appear
as soon as it appears send a G keypress.

Now all you have to do is select your rax and it builds a grunt... not even detectable with warvid - nobody can tell if you pressed G or the script did.

Upgrade to ogres? Define a hotkey CTRL-O now the script sends O when you select a rax.

Same thing when you select a smith ... send W or H

There has been sooooo much of this kiddie-script automation crap going on for years, and you all know it. But you want to complain about people changing their hotkeys?

If someone is changing their hotkeys so they can actually still press it with their finger I say that's a step in the right direction  ;D



Ok now all accuse me of doing this stuff, and I'll just be offended by the utter noobishness of using kiddie-script engines. :hug:

I've been biting my tongue for years not talking about this stuff because I didn't want noobs to get ideas, but seriously why bother? May as well give them the same advantage the "pros" have eh?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 07, 2020, 07:55:50 AM
For TK. I tried to explain you how editing the MPQ for hotkeys is a big advantage but its hard to do it in a chat, so heres the explanation.

With a keyboard which allows to change hotkeys, you could make pressing o press q instead for example. So that now you press q to make ogres. Same thing for all other hotkeys, p for peon is now w instead, etc. But its still only 1 key --> becomes another key. You still need to use the same amount of hotkeys as before, you just changed the keys.

By editing the MPQ you can do much better things :

Example :

q makes an peon when you have an hall selected,
but it also makes an ogre when you have a barrack selected.
It also do bloodlust when  .../snip/..... Its a tremendous advantage.

And all those MILI SEC advantages in a 25 minutes games... Make you a 3-4 minutes advantage on your opponnents..... 3-4 minutes advantages over your ennemies IS ALOTT DUDE...

LOL

changing hotkeys like that might give you a VERY small advantage if you relearned years of instincts... pretty sure it would make me play a lot worse for a while until i got the hang of it.

 .... BUT ....

If you want to get serious about stopping cheating you have to stop autoit/ahk. It's all so much trash talk until you do that.

Compare this tiny mpq editing advantage to the following script outline...

Image search the left pane for the barracks icon to appear
as soon as it appears send a G keypress.

Now all you have to do is select your rax and it builds a grunt... not even detectable with warvid - nobody can tell if you pressed G or the script did.

Upgrade to ogres? Define a hotkey CTRL-O now the script sends O when you select a rax.

Same thing when you select a smith ... send W or H

There has been sooooo much of this kiddie-script automation crap going on for years, and you all know it. But you want to complain about people changing their hotkeys?

If someone is changing their hotkeys so they can actually still press it with their finger I say that's a step in the right direction  ;D



Ok now all accuse me of doing this stuff, and I'll just be offended by the utter noobishness of using kiddie-script engines. :hug:

I've been biting my tongue for years not talking about this stuff because I didn't want noobs to get ideas, but seriously why bother? May as well give them the same advantage the "pros" have eh?

WELL BRO!! I DINT KNOW THAT, BUT THANK YOU!

Btw: Thats why i say hotkeys dont even matter, the only thing that matter is to completly close the mpq to public acces!!!
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Lambchops on March 07, 2020, 08:08:21 AM
WELL BRO!! I DINT KNOW THAT, BUT THANK YOU!

Pop quiz: How did the hostbot work??

The scripts have been on the server website for years in plain text.....

Anyone here seriously think nobody was using that stuff in game before they thought to automate a host bot with it? How about the tooth fairy? Anyone believe in that? Santa maybe?
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Equinox on March 07, 2020, 08:09:42 AM
WELL BRO!! I DINT KNOW THAT, BUT THANK YOU!

Pop quiz: How did the hostbot work??

The scripts have been on the server website for years in plain text.....

Anyone here seriously think nobody was using that stuff in game before they thought to automate a host bot with it? How about the tooth fairy? Anyone believe in that? Santa maybe?

There was thousand of bots in thousand of channels, wich ones you talk abouts??
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: CLAVV on March 07, 2020, 08:15:54 AM
I've been biting my tongue for years not talking about this stuff because I didn't want noobs to get ideas, but seriously why bother? May as well give them the same advantage the "pros" have eh?

GOOD POINT, THATZ WHY ALL SERIOS COMMUNITIS USUALLY POST THEIR REPLAYS TOGETHER WITH THEIR KEY/MOUSE, LIKE IN THE EXAMPLE BELOW:
osu! FIRST A-RANK on HIGHWAY TO OBLIVION | WhiteCat - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=undLSpE_UtY#)

AS FOR THE SCRIPT OUTLINE, I BELIEVE THE RAX ICON CHANGES DEPENDING ON PLAYER COLOR, SO IT WOULD STILL BE A GREAT IDEA TO EDIT MPQ TO HAVE A PERMANENT RED COLOR OR SMTH
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Lambchops on March 07, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
There was thousand of bots in thousand of channels, wich ones you talk abouts??


umm... THIS (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=1308.15) one. <-- thread read 16261 times. You can't be serious right?

The AutoIt scripts were on en.war2.ru for years. Can't see them there now, but they're probably still on the ftp server somewhere.

That's sweet. I can make a page about the hostbot on the site with all the info on how to use it that you can link to from the profile or w/e if you think that'd be helpful.


...and the hostbot was sweet, but my question remains:

Anyone here seriously think nobody was using that stuff in game before they thought to automate a host bot with it?



Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Thumb$ on March 07, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
You support/love shotgun who alledgedly uses mpq mods?
shotgun fastest clicker in da world i have ever witness..
Title: Re: U8 Always been trash!
Post by: Thumb$ on March 07, 2020, 03:21:50 PM
You support/love shotgun who alledgedly uses mpq mods?

big fail bro  ....