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I am very, very sorry.

I have been a bad girl.

My punishment has taught me a lesson.

I will be good from now on.


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Gold Mine / Re: blid's neon sign thing
« on: September 20, 2017, 07:03:29 PM »
This reminds me of one of my fave songs!

In restless dreams I walked alone
Narrow streets of cobblestone
Neath the halo of a streetlamp
I turned my collar to the cold and damp
When my eyes were stabbed
By the flash of a neon light
That split the night
...and the sign said the words of the prophets are written on the subway walls
And tenement halls
And whispered in the sound of silence

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Play Pen-itentiary / Re: jon's ban from the moderated war2 section
« on: September 20, 2017, 06:58:22 PM »
Lololol
I CANT STOP LAUGHING
I already turned pink someone help.

754
BS requires ban. Can't argue.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Missing SS from Critterhemd
« on: September 20, 2017, 11:46:28 AM »
Also, there's another missing SS from D@ta as seen in the moderated section of the forum.

Tora has me on ignore for unknown reasons, which is fine for personal interaction, but if it's impeding his ability to do the job of enforcing server SS policy, the job should be given to someone who has the maturity level to handle it.


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Moderated General Discussion / Missing SS from D@ta
« on: September 20, 2017, 01:16:39 AM »
D@ta has not posted ss requested.

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A brief note on pain and suffering.

I'll start with saying I know suffering. I know suffering that lasts for years. I know physical pain. I know emotional pain.

Pain hurts. Yes.

But the assumption that if we experience pain and suffering in this life, that shows that God is either bad or doesn't love us, is false.

There are times when parents give pain to their children in the hopes that this pain will give them some measure of future benefit, for example when giving vaccines or dental fillings. A child being forced to eat broccoli when he wants candy may feel like Mommy is mean.

Here's an example from a book by Lee Strobel. A bear gets stuck in a trap.



A person who finds the bear and wants to help the bear may want to pry the trap off (painful), shoot the bear with a tranquilizer dart (painful), or forcibly restrain the bear (painful, scary) in order to remove the trap that would lead to its demise.

The bear would perceive these attempts to help as attacks and see the human as an enemy.

As the bear is limited in its understanding of what the man is wanting to do to help it, so we are limited in our understanding, very much MORE so, in our understanding of God's action or apparent inaction in our lives here on earth.

To think that pain and suffering could be for our good, for our benefit, in ways that we can't see from our temporal vantage point, is often a thought we avoid when we are suffering.

How could this happen to me? What did I do to deserve this? I don't deserve this! He/she doesn't deserve that! God must not care at all!

Those are more common thoughts that I myself have had when in pain or watching someone I care about in pain.

If we look at the cross, where Jesus took the most unimaginable tortuous suffering on Himself for you and me, we can be assured that God does have our best interests in mind, that He does love us!!

Yes, it's hard to trust when life hurts. It's hard when you lose someone you love. It's hard when you're in so much physical pain that you feel like you can't bear it, that it will literally kill you.

But I can say that the pain I've experienced in my life has ultimately been good for me. Sometimes I don't know how or see it, but sometimes I do.

One small way that pain has helped form me is that it gives me more compassion towards others who are hurting. It makes me want to help other people who might be hurting.

Sometimes we need pain to stop us from sinning. We might be going down a wrong path, doing things God tells us not to do, and ignoring what God has to say. Continuing down this path could wreak havoc on the lives of many people, and cause a lot of pain to a lot of people. So experiencing personal pain as a result of wrongdoing can be discipline to lead us to repent from sin and turn back to God and do what He says, even when it's not what we feel like doing.

Pain is not the ultimate enemy.

God wants to save us from eternal destruction and spare us from joining the devil in hell for eternity in the lake of fire.

Pain can often be a method that is used to that end, the ultimate saving of souls.

There is so much we don't understand, but we have the evidence to see that God does love us and that we can trust Him completely.


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If a pilot crashes a jet plane and then the plane is damaged, that doesn't prove that the jet plane wasn't amazingly designed.

You have to keep in mind, marx, that the original creation was designed perfect and flawless and sinless.

Mankind rebelled against God, disobeyed, and wrecked it, bringing the penalty upon ourselves of the curse and evil.

Work became hard for men, the ground would produce thorns and thistles, and work (which was part of the good and perfect creation) becomes burdensome, grueling, and difficult.

Childbirthing for women would become painful.

Let me share a beautiful passage from Romans 8!

Present Suffering and Future Glory

18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that[h] the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.

26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.

28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
More Than Conquerors

31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:

“For your sake we face death all day long;
    we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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It is not true that Christians are passive about real world issues.

Christians are continually praying for victims of sickness and catastrophe, donating money and goods and food to the needy, opposing oppression, abuse, abortion, and other evils, and so on.

Many acts of love and kindness are unsung, unknown, seemingly minor things that make the life of someone else better.

One Christian woman I know took in her husband's elderly grandmother to live with and take care of. Most people just dump them off in some facility, but she is showing love to her husband and his grandmother by sacrificing time, freedom, money, effort to care for another person in spite of her having a bunch of kids of her own and a really full schedule. The grandmother's life is made better by this.

It is not at all true that Christianity makes people passive.

Indifference and passivity is a much more likely response from those who believe everything in existence is a meaningless, random accident that came from nowhere and is going nowhere. Human life has no value and no meaning if it is indeed an accidental collection of atoms that randomly came about.

If you look at the amazing design of the human body, however, it is anything but random or accidental.

It's a beautifully designed machine that is so much more than a machine. From the complexity of a single cell, to the wonder of the functioning of every organ and system, to the jaw-dropping enigma which is the human brain, we are indeed, as the Bible states, fearfully and wonderfully made!!




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The best experiences of my life have been in church. The mystical communion in the blood of Christ that we share with all believers, forgiveness of sins, hearing the Word of God, the friendships and relationships, the love and support, singing hymns of praise midst a throng of fellow believers to the God that made us and bought us back from slavery to sin, nothing, and I mean nothing can top that!

The pleasures in life God gave us to enjoy, the very best things in life such as amazing connecting and laughing with cherished people over amazing food, the delightful ecstasy of physical intimacy between a man and woman who love each other, the beauty of children's laughter, the miracle of the conception and birth of a brand new child, the beauty of nature, the joy of music, the satisfaction of hard work, the joy of solving challenges, the fun in hobbies and games, the exhilaration of a roller coaster, the specialness of friends and friendship, the wonderful peace of rest from work...everything that is good and beautiful and worth pursuing in life...it ALL PALES in comparison to what HEAVEN WILL BE!!

Think of it!

The One who made each of us and each and every pleasure for us to enjoy...think of being with HIM and the community of saints in a place free of sin, death, pain, evil, hate...forever!

I can't wait! :)


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I was listening to this and was so moved by this beautiful hymn that I want to share it with everyone!

And Can it be That I should Gain - YouTube

We look around at the world and see chaos, disaster, people hurting, people dying, and if we aren't looking in the right place, it can seem hopeless! It can look and feel like this world has been abandoned to its own devices.

This isn't so!

God loves people so much that He took every evil on Himself, He took all sins and suffered for us! He chose to be mocked, insulted, whipped, beaten, and crucified for us. He loves us dearly!

Of course we don't understand everything now, many things are mysteries, but when we see a love like that, a love that sacrifices self and takes punishment in our place, we can trust that love, we can trust that voice.

I love God because He loved me and died for me!

What blessed assurance this sweet sentence gives! I know that my Redeemer lives!

Praise the Lord for His great love and mercy!


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Flame Wars & Offtopic / Re: the mystery of violence in st.louis
« on: September 19, 2017, 12:06:05 PM »
Claw, your comments say a lot more about you than they do about me.

I'm sorry that your emotional state is such that lashing out and attacking everyone around you is what you need to do to try to make yourself feel better.

I don't know how you got to be where you are, that you're unhappy in your life and having a lot of anger. It's not a fun place to be. I used to be angry, many years ago. It's easy to be hostile and aggressive when you're hurting, to try to make it hurt less and hide it from other people. Anger and hate are more comfortable than feeling hurt.

Maybe you didn't feel loved by your parents. Maybe friends failed. Maybe you've been betrayed, abandoned, neglected, abused, maybe life in one way or another didn't work out the way you'd hoped. I don't know.

I'm sorry if that happened to you.

You are loved, though.

You are loved more than you can imagine. God loves you. God loves each person that He made.

He showed it by dying for us on the cross, giving His life for us to pay for every evil action, word, and thought we're guilty of. And I have a lot of them. Knowing I'm loved and forgiven in Jesus is the best thing in the entire world.

Everything else in life changes. People you love die or move or leave. But God's love is constant.

He loves us even at our most unlovable. I'm every bit as awful of a person as you Claw. I'm just better at hiding the dirt.

Every last human being is precious in the sight of God.

No matter what comes in life, God's love is always there.

God can pick us up from the ground after we're broken, after we've fallen and failed, and fill with Himself everything that is lost.

God is good. Praise God for His love and mercy!

Such a beautiful hymn, written by Horatio Spafford, after his four daughters died in a shipwreck in 1873:

When Peace Like A River (hymn with words and music) - Horatio G. Spafford - YouTube

Here is the story behind the hymn:

http://staugustine.com/living/religion/2014-10-16/story-behind-song-it-well-my-soul


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You know, mousey, this is actually a pretty good statement.

God is or God is not, and His existence is not influenced by our belief or unbelief in that existence.


764
@Lambchops You're invited! :)

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Moderated General Discussion / Mousey is a genius
« on: September 18, 2017, 09:03:28 PM »
Well, this is the best news the forum has seen since...probably ever.

Mousey you are a genius.

Thanks for your efforts and work involved in breathing new life into the W2 forums and creating a field where seeds can be planted.

You inspire me. <3

The world just got a little better.

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