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1) Mods & Development / Re: Nerd's Corner
« on: October 14, 2018, 12:40:20 AM »
Nice thanks! ^-^ :thumbsup:

Interesting that they save the transition type value from the marching squares algorithm in the pud directly instead of calculating it once at load time. It means your map editor has to save these calculated values in the pud but it also means you can save a pud files with very weird transitions if you would like to that could look funny. (:

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2) Server.War2.ru / Re: Ripe not posting warvid
« on: October 13, 2018, 11:26:25 PM »
I think this is up to the tournament organizers to decide what they do regarding these issues yes, not granting the prizes or ban that player from next tournament or just count that game as a loss for him in that tournament are more than enough...

Unless there was a hack suspicion, in which case a SS should have been requested during the game.

Other than that I believe the server where people play has nothing to do with these issues.
From where I stand, banning the player from the game is in my opinion out of the question since the tournaments and its rules are organized and controlled by a tier.

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Plus to be fair I think insight is a much better way of getting replays if we could add the chat history to it that would be the ultimate casting tool for streaming/commenting after the game was played.

3) Mods & Development / Re: Nerd's Corner
« on: October 11, 2018, 12:20:14 PM »
Well that is the thing with Github you dont host the image files nor do you want to host the binary files, just the sources so no copyright issues there because images and the archives are not included  ^-^

You don't have to bother making your sources look good, unless you really want to use these as a way to get noticed by employers or because you want that to be part of your resume or portfolio. <= which also could be quite a good idea but that is indeed more work

Really if not for the above it is most of the time the matter of two clicks.

The benefits are that sometimes external views see things you might have missed.

Most of us have jobs that don't include warcraft 2, but sometimes we take one or two hours to read some foreign code there and there.
Yes nothing may come out of it but sometimes it does.

I guess these names sound familiar to you:
Daniel Lemberg.
Simon Pelsser.
Lasse Jensen.
These dudes worked on analysing the pud format because of their work it is much easier for people like us to play around with it.
Many others like Alexander Cech did programs that did prettymuch the same things like pudImage.exe and the famous Wardraft.exe

Had we got the sources from these utilities for example maybe we wouldn't have to reinvent the wheel every time, just the tires maybe :P

the strength of open source is that even if you let your project  sit out there and stop working on it someone might one day dig it out and use it as a base for something else.

Now that is your choice, in the end you do what you want just saying if you had your sources out there I would have had a look by curiosity :P

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4) Mods & Development / Re: Nerd's Corner
« on: October 11, 2018, 08:07:56 AM »
Are these sources somewhere on Github? That would be much handier to read/propose changes or additions :-)

That would help having a global view of the thing too.
I do love C++, ASM is readable I just wonder why work with assembly in the first place, it is very low level and tedious to make even small things  ;D.
But hey what ever works for ya is fine  ^-^

The reason is, I checked your archive and it is flagged as malicious by most common anti viruses, they find a trojan-like pattern/signature in the program which may be avoided.
Given the nature and the simplicity of the program (opening a file and parsing binary / creating an image and saving it) I wanted to see if we could try and find a way to fix the issue.

Also I thought if we have it on Github  maybe I and others could try and help you improve the thing by proposing changes (pull requests, merges, branching all that beauty) to add new features to the thing and/or fix track issues.

The virus detection matters because even if we know it is perfectly safe if we want to put it in the downloads section of the site for everyone to find easily, and google runs a basic automated test like they always do on hosted files, they will flag the whole war2.ru site as malicious, as it happened before. And it is a mess after to make them roll back on these things.

Do you think it could be a good idea? :-)

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edit: Also it is a shame we do not have the sources of Alexander cech he did something around these lines (PudImage) and Wardraft which was a map editor that allowed a bit more pud manipulations. :-)

5) Mods & Development / Re: Nerd's Corner
« on: October 09, 2018, 09:26:22 AM »
@Lambchops May we have the sources of that nice little program of yours?  (The PUDPIC program) ^-^

6) Mods & Development / Re: Warcraft 2 - remake
« on: October 09, 2018, 09:13:52 AM »
Warcraft 2 's sources never were published by Blizzard.
Warcraft 1 and 2 were made in language C most of the libraries that were used are outdated now thus sources may not be that helpful.
You may compile C with any C compiler as long as it supports the version of C used which could be a bit old for the original sources.
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7) Server.War2.ru / Re: Backup Servers
« on: October 06, 2018, 01:59:43 AM »
He is right!

Guys cmon dont let them retards push you away from your  favorite game lets play and have fun together!

Go on mousetopher's server it is war2.me,  and trust me we do play games quite nicely there:

May elves rule this land for ever! Go humans! - YouTube
Lets go boys you know you want it!
This game was played moments ago, Go humans! :P

8) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 04, 2018, 03:02:16 PM »
Why would you keep defending yourself in a place and in front of people you said you wanted nothing to do with anymore and you wanted to die out?
If you do not care about people here or wish they were out of existence maybe just... be gone?

You clearly stated you wished the attacks to never end so you do not get to complain about being targeted I am sorry you cant have it both ways .
You keep saying people here wrongly accuse you aw poor little you, well guess what, they cant prove that you did it and you cant prove you did not. These things happen all the time now there is a mature and a very immature way of dealing with these types of accusations:

1) You defend yourself by recusing and then proceed to make position known and build your case.
2) You yell, gesticulate, shouter louder than everyone else threatening, attacking, or pressuring directly every people that makes accusations by showing your muscles like a freaking angry gorilla.

I will let you guess which one we expect from a 14 years old growing puberty hairs and which one would be the more mature way.
Oh and also which one make you look the more guilty and the less sympathetic.

Keep that in mind: The more aggressive and loud you stand the less credible you are.
Aw and I am talking about you but overall really these conversations are shit shows and combined with these childish attacks they are not leading to anything more than people being driven away from war2 so :
Good job everyone since this all started you have been destroying the community faster than we had it growing for the last 3 month with our streams and advertising, be proud of yourselves at least there is one thing you will be remembered for :thumbsup:

9) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 06:44:41 PM »
Alright so you are saying hey we cant ban all convicted criminals they were punished already I agree!

But are you saying threats coming from a convicted criminal of the same kind have not to be taken seriously?
Are you saying if a convicted criminal shows you his record and tells you you are next it is the same as if some random guy does it and has nothing to back it up?
Why then would he even mention it then if it has no importance? Because it is relevant!

Now I am not saying you should judge him for the skeletons in the closet but you should based on what he does now with that skeleton.
In my country and in yours too if a convicted murderer makes death threats he is under restraining order there is no question asked this is just straight mechanical for a good reason.

Are you saying your non-toxic server is accepting that level of toxicity after all, is that what you are saying?
According to your server and it's policy harrassing someone and threatening him with proof that you can do it and all is ok?
Or are you making an exception here just for that one person?

And dont tell me he acted on his feelings and anger we are not talking about a 14 years old that has hormones issues here.
The guy is litteraly the server admin and talk here in your server's name.
I think I am not being unfair here.
He is really not doing things right and I think you should honestly realize that.
And yes, no one is perfect but this is beyond that.

10) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 06:20:17 PM »
@LiveFreeorDie
If a convicted murderer makes death threats to a person because that person insulted him (Burnt made accusations here nothing more it could be taken as an insult nothing more).
Do you take it seriously? Do you put him under restraining order or not?
Do you try to justify his actions because, that man really pushed him and hey maybe he was not serious about it?
Do you give that convicted murderer the benefit of the doubt?

This is worse than some random racial insult on a public chat this is a real case of bullying toxicity there is no undermining it, I am sorry it has to be taken seriously.
And Tupac wanted Xurnt to take that threat seriously there is no denying that.

We wont ever know who is really behind the attacks there is simply no way for us without server access to prove it and even if we had these we would need a lot more resources to expose him than he needs to attack us.

What we can talk about though is how this guy behaves regarding the community and if he effectively is acting in a way that will harm the community.

And I am sorry he is not a child he should be able to behave other than just out of anger or whatever especially when he has that history.

11) Server.War2.ru / Re: tupac dealing final blow to War2
« on: October 03, 2018, 05:47:01 PM »
Even if it is not him doing the attack he still showed us his true colors by saying:

"I hope the attacks never end"

Thus supporting what is undoubtedly a destructive and very stupid action had it be done to any server.

Tupac is encouraging it and actively trying to use it to his own profit by misleading people to believe his thing is an official solution to the problems people encounter because for the attacks.
I have proof for all that  here: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,4480.0.html

Now he must know there are no safe place on the internet I've seen him make some pretty nasty comments and threats on here too.

"@XuRnT What happend last time you choose to fuck with me? That didn't end to well for you did it?"

Apparently threatening to hack into other user's computers namely Xurnt and implying he should shut up because what?
He is going to do that again, is that what he is implying here?
Is there any case scenario were that is acceptable on your so called non-toxic server?
Would that be qualifying as bullying and toxic enough for you?

If someone in your server has hacked an other user and threaten him to do it again would you say it is cool and perfectly non-toxic?
Maybe you should ban that toxic player from his own server he clearly cant be in contact with 13 years old lol.

Oh yeah, smart guy indeed, Tupac is definitely showing that through his restraint and perfectly acceptable behavior... <= sarcasm

All I said are not just blank accusations, these are facts now you can choose to say you think these facts do not matter and are irrelevant to you.
But understand that many will think that they are far from irrelevant and should be taken into consideration when ever him or that server is mentioned.

12) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 03, 2018, 04:53:31 AM »
Babyshark needs to be locked away in a mental asylum.

I don't think mental asylum take people because they are overly sensible, and as a matter of fact I don't think she has anything to do with the hacking. (And yes sensible people may do crazy stupid things when they are pushed that does not mean they are mentally ill)

I am pretty sure the only reason she joined Tupac on this is because he gave her a way to play the game without facing people she did not like.

Now I am very much against that solution yes but overall if there was no hacking going on and if they did things fairly I would not have voiced against it.
Honestly I would have let them be... Fair is fair we can agree to disagree.

After all it is not like there was no problem to begin with, we still need some more persistent squelching or more ways to deal with toxicity overall (other than just banning people).

Because it is still true that toxicity pushed away some people and it should not be the case we should be able to have people that don't like each others playing the same game without them talking to each other or being able to tease each other constantly.

I would never have advocated in a solution that would involve splitting the player base, and/or that would involve banning people.
Every member we have is valuable, maybe not to you, but to someone else they could be (yes even the ones that you think no one hangs out with).

There are other solutions out there that could help us virtually separate people that cannot stand each others in a way that would not hurt the overall server activity nor ban people.
There are ways for us to protect members that come to the server by default from specific users and/or form of language (flagging a person as toxic would make him squelched by default and implementing some kind of language filters)
We could do that in a way that people who do not mind toxicity can disable the automatic squelching or the language filters for themselves if they are fine with reading/having these.
All these solutions I did propose before and are nor destructive nor risky.
I find the server solution they went for much more destructive and I regret they would not have discussed about it before with us.
I would have hoped we could try other less risky and less radical solutions before...

But I am starting to think with the reactions of Tupac that he may have this coming for a long time and that the whole "non-toxic" and "pg13" thing could just be a convenient reason nothing more...

13) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 02, 2018, 11:32:23 PM »
We are likely never going to know who is behind the attacks.

What we will judge you on though is your reactions to these attacks.

So far rather than acting like you care and condemn these actions by showing support and actively try to stop or discourage the attacks by any means necessary you chose to aggressively recruit in the war2.ru tech support discord channel.

Effectively trying to lead people to believe your server is a valid and affiliated solution which it is not and probably never will be given the stance you are having right now.

Babyshark showed me what you said on your server, you actually acted like you believed it could be someone from your server that did it, and you told them it was not your way, or was it now???

If it is not your way, and it is not acceptable by your standards, why then come and try to use it as a way to get people to play on your server?
Why not just shutdown your server or just disable accounts creations and refuse new players on your server to make the hacking pointless until it is over?

Unless words are followed by real actions they are just that... Empty and irrelevant words.

If you are not going to condemn the attacks, and take a stance against such behaviors you are basically allowing it but if you are taking advantage of them you are not only allowing them you are supporting them and encouraging them.

That is what your actions say about you and your server.
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That dosen't prove shit! Especially if the attacks are related inside ru. It would be Exactly what the attacker wants! To keep the population in control! I will not be disabling nothing! I'm done with ru with for good. You all keep blaming me I hope the attacks dont stop. Don't shit where you all eat! Don't be asking me for forgiveness. Good luck! Fuck this shit hole!

It does prove that you support their action and now are actively encouraging them by saying you hope they never end.
Oh and guess what since you said that its started again what a coincidence.

You maybe are not the one behind the attacks but even your words right now show you do legitimize these attacks and act like you are more than happy with them happening.

That Mr Tupac is complicity in crime.

You as the creator of that pg 13 friendly server are certainly not showing you can be trusted by having that stance!
By acting the way you are, who would never let a 13 years old person in your care?
You might just tell that child its OK to steal from the baker that bred you want so badly because the baker was not polite enough for you.

If you are going to stand by the side of these attacks and say you are fine with them then yes you should leave the server for good you have nothing to do here.

14) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 02, 2018, 10:37:56 PM »
We are likely never going to know who is behind the attacks.

What we will judge you on though is your reactions to these attacks.

So far rather than acting like you care and condemn these actions by showing support and actively try to stop or discourage the attacks by any means necessary you chose to aggressively recruit in the war2.ru tech support discord channel.

Effectively trying to lead people to believe your server is a valid and affiliated solution which it is not and probably never will be given the stance you are having right now.

Babyshark showed me what you said on your server, you actually acted like you believed it could be someone from your server that did it, and you told them it was not your way, or was it now???

If it is not your way, and it is not acceptable by your standards, why then come and try to use it as a way to get people to play on your server?
Why not just shutdown your server or just disable accounts creations and refuse new players on your server to make the hacking pointless until it is over?

Unless words are followed by real actions they are just that... Empty and irrelevant words.

If you are not going to condemn the attacks, and take a stance against such behaviors you are basically allowing it but if you are taking advantage of them you are not only allowing them you are supporting them and encouraging them.

That is what your actions say about you and your server.
 :critter:

15) Server.War2.ru / Re: The State of The Servers
« on: October 02, 2018, 01:45:20 PM »
When launching the game you might come across that error after a short delay.
Hit ignore here :

Then in the game change to mousetopher server here :


There you go you can play the game with all your war2.ru friends and fows.

There is no other official server or solution!
Anyone telling you otherwise is either lying or trying to get you to join something else that is not affiliated to war2.ru in any way.

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