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1) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 20, 2019, 10:18:21 AM »
IT IS ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT THIS AINT PERSONAL VENDETTA FOR ME. BEFORE THAT GAME, ME AND LAMB WERE.... WELL NOT FRIENDS, BUT... GAMING BUDDIES. HE MENTIONED IT MANY TIMES IN WINCHESTER THREADS THAT WE OFTEN GIVE EACH OTHER "A HARD TIME" AND DONT GET MAD TOO MUCH

THIS THREAD IS NOT AGAINST LAMBCHOPS AS A PERSON. HE IS A BRILLIANT GUY, AMONG THE BEST MODDERS/PROGRAMMERS WE GOT AT THE MOMENT. BUT MY ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY FOR HACKING STILL APPLIED TO HIM, SO - AFTER HE SPIT ON MY FACE, REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE ETC - I MADE THE VIDEO AND THE THREAD.

ANYTHING LAMB DOES AFTER THAT IS STRICTLY PERSONAL AND DIRECTED AT ME. WILL HE CAUSE ENOUGH DISTRACTION?

2) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 20, 2019, 09:34:27 AM »



3) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 20, 2019, 06:21:12 AM »
AS FOR ANY "AI TEST" ARGUMENTS, I ASKED FOR A FAIR 1V3, ASKED LAMB TO NOT USE ANY SCRIPT BEFORE THE GAME AND DURING THE GAME (WHEN I SAW HIS MACROS WITH NAKED EYE). DROID CAN VOUCH...

INSTEAD HE MOCKED ME AND POSTED THE SS OF 2V2 VICTORY IN THE THREAD I LINKED IN INITIAL POST. I WAS TOTALLY HONEST IN THAT THREAD AND NOW MY REACTION PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO EVERYONE... THING IS - NEITHER I NOR LAMB KNEW THAT DROID RECORDED THAT GAME WITH INSIGHT. WHAT A PLOT TWIST IT WAS

4) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 20, 2019, 06:04:04 AM »
So, there are a lot of macros from Lambchops during whole the game. For example from the game starting:


You can see that he selected Unit #1523 and move them manually. But later trigger push the next queue of commands:
Select TH, train peon, select previous unit (to continue manual control).
This macro is used during all the first part of the game. Later macros take control under barracks and grunts/ogres. At the end of game Lambchop wasn't playing at all. But more than 100 commands per net cycle were autogenerated (>1000 APM).

I can suppose that Lambchops was trying to test some very quick and dirty implementation of game AI. Because he supported his scripts at the begging of game (when you need to build the base properly) and was very passive at the end of game.


BUT. If this was AI test, why did he not mention about this? Why did he blame Claw? Maybe I missed something in replay, but I cannot see his cheats. Just chaotic manual building, like this:

As you can see, Donald_Trump selects barracks and pushes "O" hotkey several times as usual player. 2-4 commands per cycle.


Very strange.


HOLY SHIT YOU HAVE AN ACTION TRACKER? THAT IS AWESOME!

DONALD TRUMP HACKS DONT SHOW BECAUSE I AM A LEGIT FAIR PLAYER THAT ALSO REPORTED HIS HACKS

HIS STRATEGY IS TO IGNORE ALL THE QUESTIONS, CONVINCE THE CROWD THAT I HACKED AS WELL, THEN SAY IT WAS JUSTIFIED OR A TEST. IM SURE THERE WILL ALSO BE A NOMENCLATURE PHILOSOPHY INVOLVED (NOT A MACRO, BUT AN AI FRAMEWORK YADDA YADDA)

SO HE EVEN HACKED EARLY? JESUS CHRIST, IS HE CAPABLE OF PLAYING A SINGLE GAME WITHOUT HACKS THEN? I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY OGGER PRODUCTION AND MOVEMENT. ITS GETTING... SAD

5) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 05:05:36 PM »
If you can show a video or w/e with detailed explanation and prooves against Claw in your game, maybe that would partially explain your position against him, though that's still not acceptable behavior i think...
ITS HARD TO PROVE BASING ON ONE REPLAY AND UNLIKE LAMBCHOPS, MY GAMEPLAY IS ABSOLUTELY TRANSPARENT. I CAN 1V1 ANYONE ANYTIME WITH WARVID/WAR2INSIGHT ON. I ACTUALLY RECORDED 3 KOTR GAMES VS SILENT JUST NOW, HAD POSTED MANY WARVIDEOS OF CHOP MAD OR ARCHERS (EVEN VS SWIFT) ON YOUTUBE. ITS A DESPERATE "NO U" ATTEMPT

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Also, i'm just going to release new combat in a few days with your plugin system, but how that will look like after things happened?
Not sure what i should do now.
YEAH LAMBCHOPS IS A GOOD DUDE IF HIS ATTENTION IS SET IN RIGHT DIRECTION. SINCE THE WOOD PLUGIN HE'S KINDA LOSING IT. SUM KIND OF A SLAP ON THE WRIST OR WAKE UP CALL WITH COLD BUCKET ONTO HIS HEAD WOULD DO...

HACKING VS REAL PLAYERS THAT DO NOT WANT IT IS ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL
DEVELOPING A NEAT AI FOR AUTOMATED CHOP MAD/ARCHERS/KOTR GAMES IS AWESOME

DO NOT MIX THOSE TWO, ADMIT TO HACKING, HUMBLY APOLOGIZE N U KINDA SAVE FACE WHORECHOPS

6) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 01:01:39 PM »
ANYWAY IN KOTR ITS POSSIBLE TO FIND AN ADEQUATE ENEMY FOR ME. YESTERDAY I PLAYED WITH Silent~Farts AND WE'RE KINDA EVEN (BUT OF COURSE HIS MOUSE WAS 'BROKEN' AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN PWNED OTHERWISE)
ITS NOT A MATTER OF BEING INVINCIBLE, BUT RATHER STICKING TO OUR OWN LEAGUES. EQ WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT U IN B-, BUT YOURE MORE OF A D-. ME, ON THE OTHER HAND.... GRADE A @ KOTR

http://ladder.war2.ru/reports/gr_20190818194400_027511
http://ladder.war2.ru/reports/gr_20190818195829_027521

7) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 12:52:17 PM »
HERE U GO AGAIN SPREADING ALL THE FALSE NEWS HOPING THAT SOME OF IT MIGHT STICK - SAME STRAT U USED AGAINST WINCHESTER = DELLAM CASE
AND YES, SOME PEOPLE MAY BELIEVE U, I WAS NEVER A FAN OF MASSES ANYWAY

I WONT RESPOND WITH WALL OF TEXT (NOT AUTISTIC ENOUGH LIKE YOU, CHESTER OR BABYSHARK), RATHER A TL;DR SUMMARY:

1. CHOP MAD BOT PROJECT = ABSOLUTELY TRUE. I WAS ABSOLUTELY LOOKING FOWARD TO PRACTICE VS AI IN CUSTOM MAPS AS THER WERE LESS N LESS PEOPLE PLAYING. SAME APPLIES TO ARCHERS, WHER IT WAS SUPER HARD TO FIND A REAL CHALLENGE AND TEST NEW STRATS
EVEN MY LAST MAIL TO U SUGGESTED THAT (ALTHOUGH I DIDNT EXPECT U'D BE THE RETARD I MENTIONED THERE)
"cant wait for a good bot on mad and/or archers!

I could also play with the AI if you decide to release it. but im sure if faglords could use it to cheating, they would, so idk about releasing it to the public. too much work just to prevent retards from doing retarded things"

2. NO I AM NOT A MACRO HACKER, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. THE ONLY MACRO I USE IS DOUBLECLICK, WHICH I WAS NEVER HESTITANT TO ADMIT. IF IT STOPS BEING "LEGIT" THEN ILL STOP USING IT AS WELL. IN KOTR NO DOUBLECLICK IS USED, HENCE 0 MACROS BY ME IN ATTACHED INSIGHT.
ALL OF THE 'EVIDENCE' IS JUST YOUR WILD ACCUSATION. YOU BASICALLY SAY "HEY I FOUND 2 RAX CLOSE TOGEHTER THAT KINDA MAKE OGGERS FAST OCCASIONALLY, THEREFORE CLAW HAS A FRAMEWORK FOR LITERALLY EVERY POSITION ON EVERY CUSTOM MAP HE'S GOOD AT"
THAT IS, TO PUT IT GENTLY, A WILD EXTRAPOLATION. ALSO FALSE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE BRAVERY AND  :salty: :salty:

YOUR STORY DOESNT EVEN MAKE SENSE BUT EXPLAINING WHY WOULD BE A COMPLIMENT TO IT, SO I WONT BOTHER

CLAW HAS BEEN AT LEAST A TOP3 CHOPPER SINCE 2007 UP TO 2017, DECENT GOWER, VERY GOOD AT KOTR, CHOP MAD, JAMMIN, ARCHERS, MUTTON ETC. IT IS REALLY EASIER FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME (WITH GAMING TALENT) TO BE GOOD AT W2 RATHER THAN BUILDING AN EXTREME LIBRARY OF HAX
JUST TAKE A STEP BACK AND IMAGINE - ONE CAN BE TALENTED AT W2 (CPT CLAW THE INVINCIBLE), THE OTHER AT PROGRAMMING (LAMBCHOPS).
I HAD A VERY TRANSPARENT YOUTUBE CHANNEL, THEN REMOVED IT ENTIRELY, NOW THER'S ANOTHER ONE AND THOSE ARE ONLY LEGIT GAMES. LITERALLY NOTHING SHADY
WITH YOU - A PROGRMAMING GENIUS - IT ONLY TOOK 1 INSIGHT REPLAY TO COMPLETELY PROVE THAT YOURE A HACKER
I WON MANY TOURNAMENTS, $$ INCLUDED, WHERE I HAD TO PROVIDE VARIOUS INSIGHTS OR WARVIDEOS, THEY WERE ALWAYS LEGIT. ME BEING LEGIT MAKES INFINITELY MORE SENSE THAN WHATEVER YOU'RE PROPOSING. BUT AGAIN - YOURE WELCOME TO ANALYZE ALL REPLAYS IN YOUR SPARE TIME

YOUR POST AN ELABORATE "NO U", BUT REALLY - YOUR HACKS ARE BLATANT HERE. ADMIT TO IT AND MOVE ON. MAYBE TRY TO PLAY SOME KOTR WITH ME AND FIND SOME OTHER SHADY PATTERNS SUCH AS OCCASIONAL OGRE PRODUCTION FROM ADJACENT RAXES

LOOK, ANOTHER IMPRESSIVE KOTR GAMEPLAY BY ME. FROM THE VERY SAME SPOT TOO! TONS OF EVIDENCE TO ANALYZE!

War2 1v1 Bgh Kotr mouse vs Claw (Split Screen) - YouTube

8) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 12:02:56 PM »
WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP. ADMIT YOU MACR0HAXED, ACCEPT YOUR 7 DAY BAN AND MOVE ON AS A BETTER PLAYER, FREE OF HACKS

I NEVER MACROHAXED, NEVER WILL AND I AM WILLING TO PLAY ANYONE WITH WARVID ON. AND ANY1 CAN INSIGHT AND CHECK FOR HAX IF THEY NEED TO, AS YOU PAINFULLY EXPERIENCED HERE

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A GOOD CUST0M PLAYER. YOURE NOT A PART OF THE CLUB

Finals will be KOTH Bo7 (1st map old gow- high-ef)
ABOUT KOTH
CAN SPEED BE CHANGED TO F?
CAN RES BE CHANGED TO LOW/MEDIUM?

10) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 02:57:45 AM »
Macro builds huh. The custom community has argued that it’s legal on maps like BGH. What is the consensus about macros like this? And did Lamb or Claw use it?
THE ONLY MACROHACK TOLERATED BY W2 COMMUNITY IS DOUBLECLICK. EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE//IS BANABLE


It shouldnt be tolerated any macro
THAT CONSENSUS IS YEARS OLD AND COULD BE A SUBJECT FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
ADMINS WERE NOT READY TO BAN PEOPLE FOR USING A BUTTON ON THEIR MOUSE AND THE CASES OF DOUBLECLICK WERE VERY HARD TO PROVE ON THE BASIS OF INSIGHT... OR EVEN WARVID. THEREFORE WHATS THE POINT
ITS NOT ALLOWED PER SE, BUT RATHER FROWNED UPON AND TOLERATED

11) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 19, 2019, 01:48:11 AM »
Macro builds huh. The custom community has argued that it’s legal on maps like BGH. What is the consensus about macros like this? And did Lamb or Claw use it?
THE ONLY MACROHACK TOLERATED BY W2 COMMUNITY IS DOUBLECLICK. EVERYTHING ELSE SHOULD BE//IS BANABLE

12) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 18, 2019, 10:48:23 AM »
THE LESSON WE CAN ALL TAKE HERE IS:
1) DONT USE HAX!
2) IT TAKES ONE NEWBIE AND A POWERFUL HACK TO COMPETE WITH A LEGEND

13) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 18, 2019, 08:27:18 AM »
Insanely fast. You're so fast and accurate in the replay it almost looks ike you're able to click the barracks and type O at the same time. And click on hall and P. Very impressive speed.
THX

ALL LEGIT TOO (DOUBLECLICK, THE ONLY MACRO I USE, ISNT USED BY ME IN KOTR, ONLY IN BGH NO-AIR FOR LUSTING)

14) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 18, 2019, 07:44:06 AM »
Very impressive that claw was able to not only keep up, but surpass lamb chops in some of those statistics. That must take an insane amount of skill to do versus somebody using automated ogre production and automated ogre control

IS THIS IRONY OR NOT? CUZ I WAS AT THE VERY TOP OF KOTR "SCENE" (3 PLAYERS? LOL) SINCE 2012-ISH.
LMK WHEN YOU CAN WATCH IT AND I WILL PM IT TO U. IM SURE U'D LIKE TO ANALYZE MY OWN GAMEPLAY AND NOT MUCH MORE.
WHICH IS FINE BUT REPS OF MY KOTR GAMEPLAY HAVE BEEN FLOATING AROUND FOR YEARS

EDIT:
THIS IS OLD ASS 6 YRS AGO GAME. NOT SURE HOW I FROM 2019 COMPARE. BUT THAT GAME HAD THE SELF-PROCLAIMED #1 FASTEST PLAYER ON THE SERVER (MASTA{HR}) AND I HAD 1.6X HIS UNITS

Kotr 2v3, Claw vs nubs - YouTube

EDIT 2: ATTACHED REPLAY + MAP.
KEEP IN MIND ONE RANDOM SIMULTANEOUS OGGER PRODUCTION FROM A COUPLE OF RAXES MEANS NOTHING AS THERE ARE LAG SPIKES. HOWEVER, THINGS WE SEE IN THE VID I PROVIDED IS VERY CONCLUSIVE. WARVID IS ALWAYS MORE RELIABLE SOURCE AGAINST MACROS THAN INSIGHT (AND I AM HAPPY TO HAVE A WARVID KOTR SERIES)

15) Server.War2.ru / Re: MACRO HACKS IN KOTR FOUND AND ANALYZED
« on: August 18, 2019, 06:35:40 AM »
I SUGGEST LAMBCHOPS FOCUSES ON CREATING USEFUL WAR2 TOOLS AND NOT RUINING GAMES WITH HACKS (THEN MOCKING THE PLAYERS WHEN HE WINS THE GAME)

 :salty: :salty: :salty:

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