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Ya, I posted this yesterday. I've been spammin and msging individual people.

BNE:

xRIPx_Th0rn aka ~)Warlord(~- Leader of my old xRIPx clan
SocxDenni- Best player of Soc on BNE
SocxWarchief- Always a class act


RU:

F player- ~Wooferz~ (something like that)- nobody knew who tf he is/was but guy was real good. Not personal at all. Used to play with his wife, beardedgoat. Maybe Joe? The only guy I know too who can play EF and go mass air and beat good people.

WG/Lux- Really nice/smart people with great personalities. Both are very patient (something I envy/respect). When I first parded WG, we played real well. I was like nice, we are a real good team. Then I later realized, he is so good that he is good with anyone on his team, lol. Also they are some of the few people on here that I trust.

Yeah, I'll start today.

I thought it seemed like we were actually moving with some momentum on that thread as well as woofy alluded to.

ITS JUST FOR FUN FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, lol. Stop taking this so seriously.

It obviously doesn't mean anything. Take it how you will. I'm going to assume it is what the highest skill set of someone has been throughout their "career" (lol) because to me, that just makes the most sense. Not you beat SG 1 game and should be tier 1, lol.

What's the best you've ever consistently been? Able to go 3-3 or with Steve/Knit/etc? If so, you belong in that tier. Steve would most likely rape me and if I get lucky I get 1 or 2 outta a BO10. So, I'm going under him. People in my tier, I can beat and some can beat me. That is where I should be. (after the fix of putting me up one tier as others mentioned!!!) 

Everyone needs to relax. He stressed multiple times it's for fun. Feel free to say what you need to say but, again, relax, it's for fun. There doesn't need to be some crazy detailed explanation with algorithms as to how/why/who/where/when.

Farts/Talrand- Tier 6? (farts maybe tier 5 for a short period of time) I haven't seen Tal play much lately so idk if tier 5.

Angel~Fire- Tier 6 (maybe has older aka idk, Angel_MI?)

Lale- Tier 6

$lick- Tier 6

Dugz- Tier 6

IamPOIUYT- Tier 7

SoczMaster- Tier 6

Van- Tier 6

Lusted- ?? Tier 7? (might have aka)

Buildmorefarms- Tier 7? (knows like every map and is good at them)

+1 00STEVE
- 1 Mystical (sorry lol)
+1 Iambadman
+2 BHC-Master (he is on here multiple times I believe)
+1 Sh4de
+2 Xurnt
+2 SoczNedok
+2 SocxStanneyDing
+1 UNF0G1VEN
+2 AA.GreenGoblin (much improved since COVID)
+3 or 4 for FLCI-VIZZER
+4 Ogremage
+3 Disgruntled

StarTale? hahahahahaha  **shade thrown**


If we are adding old names I have a few. They might have akas, idk a lot of akas of people.

- Head[iS]
-FunkMonkey
-Monk66
- Kb)go-go(
- D.Stylez
-Sonic[is]

Time for everyone to tell me 1/2 the people I listed are already on here, rofl!

Swift if you need a pard, I'll let you tag along with me.

IP is an IP. I'm not very technical to debate that. That was very nice of you to check Cel.

Angel's character has never been in question as long as I've known him, he doesn't give 2 shits about drama on here, and I don't think he even drinks/gets drunk. He may have come on the forums back then to respond, as I told him about it, but I'm not looking around for any of that.

Anyways, it could have been someone else on his name or him forgetting? I guess. His response the day after was "I don’t think I played with them, I better change my PW logging on now". So, I guess it is not 100% definitive. It was enough for him to change his PW though.

Then again, a week or so later, Burnt did blame the hackers or whoever for burning his grass. So.... at that point, I'm not sure how much Brunt's mindset can be trusted anyways. Mighta had the tin foil on at that point.

I don't want to open the can back up but Cel, they had a SS that Angel was in that game watching. Angel, or the person who is Angel, was indeed NOT in that game watching. Aka, someone was on his name. So, if iL is checking or was checking IPs for that situation, that might be something else to check.

1) Angel doesn't watch games
2) I asked Angel the next day, he confirmed he wasn't even on.

Again, I hate to open the can back up, but that was never addressed even though I did mention it a few times in Burnt's defense.

I don't think it's too late in the long term. Short term, it will take some time, yeah. If we actually have set moderation rules, as Cel mentioned, and stick to them, then I think, in time, when people hear or do happen to check it out, maybe they would come back and/or spread the word. If not, at least whoever is left can talk about things and be productive on here.

Justin you said it was for last tourney and now you say the money is for an upcoming one he might host? You just said $100 would motivate him when he spent $1,200 last time? But initially you said "We need to pay for the last war2festival before we get another one."

Sounds like you have an ulterior motive for collecting money as your ask has changed in a very short amount of time.

I am 100% for forum moderation. Cel, I liked a lot of what I read about what you posted over from the SC one or whatever it is. Other games just don't have so few people on the forums, which I think creates problems, and I think a lot of people read these forums but don't respond (from some ppl I know). Chaos is not productive.

Every single thread gets off topic and typically turns into an argument. Look at this one... It turns into the same arguments and problems everyone has had for the last 20 years, of which I couldn't give 2 shits about tbh. Let's move forward because revisiting the past seems to have never got us anywhere.

I'm confused, Burnt wants money (but won't ask or mention it?) from a tourney from 2+ years ago? I don't recall him asking for donations back then either. This is the first I'm ever hearing about it. I don't know why we would give him one cent for anything at this point. He has pretty much burned (no pun intended) all of his bridges at this point. Sad thing is, I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that is a shame, as we all liked the old Burnt.

Justin does good replay commentary (well, funny at least) but aside from that, for the most part, he's a troll and an asshole in my humble opinion. Maybe I just don't know him very well and I'll admit, I don't. Nor do I know his akas necessarily or what else he does for the server.

But from what I've seen, this just further proves it. Keep your replays, we'll make more. New people don't know who any of those other people are in the first place. If the old people want to watch a replay and they don't log on either way, how does that help us? It's just nostalgia, which is nice and fun, don't get me wrong, but using it as leverage, is just a sign of poor character. I like how you don't even want to bring the topic up and/or discuss it first? You thought it would be best to just hold replays as ransom. Then you expect for everything to be all hunky dory after that? What a guy.... What a leader... What a person.....

This is your way of taking initiative for Burnt and you thought this was going to be successful? Let me guess, we send it to your personal account and then once you have collected it all (with the exact amount of "bear some of the burden" requested ROFL), you will give it to Burnt? On top of that, why would we also contribute to someone who just left the server to bring everyone else to the new one while calling himself retarded? Makes no sense.

Why antagonize in the first place? That is something Van would do for no reason.

Too much fun going on for me to not be part of it.

Burnt you said "This server is going down the drain because of the retard staff. Now I'm going to speed it up. iL doesn't have the balls to remove you trash admins and would rather let his server die."

Aren't you an admin? Did you just call yourself retarded? Also, iL just gave you a 2nd chance what, 6months ago? Obv you no longer care, as you just insulted him as well. It is what it is. You are aware of that already.

Bara- Brunt used to be Mr. War2 and was cool as hell and was getting real good too. Then in 1 very odd game, he went from that Burnt to...... the complete opposite. He has had similar views as EQ does since then. (maybe did b4, idk but shows it 100% now)

I highly agree there has been some BS in the past and will be in the future but to go back and hash it all out and search for answers that have been denied and/or ignored for years really doesn't justify continuing to constantly demand them.

Honestly, if you can make it work on another server in the long run, I say, for the greater good, right? But... Babyshark.... is what would stop me, personally. Idk Tupac either tbh.

The short term result of a split, will be exactly that, our small population of people split in half (as if we could afford it). New/current people would see 18 people logged on instead of 36 and may not ever find the other server.

Let's remember, a very small amount of the population are even on this forum and even half of them don't give 2 shits. They just want to play the game and couldn't care less about the drama. If anything, that would turn them away.

Long term view is.... the community survives the split and everyone is happy (yeah right). The negative long term view is, war2 ends due to this (if it gains steam)

I think this will go well!..........

Yeah, the whole, sign up ahead of time is a good idea but it just isn't practical with the community we have. That is just the way it is. My tournament was the same as Tks.

Tk I will disagree with you on the bracket setup. If you are just going to have all the pros vs noobs, no noobs are going to want to play in the first place, Just do a pro tournament for that. That is a major discouragement and currently what does typically happen. That is the advantage of the smurf tournament imo.

Although it's obviously an unfair advantage, I think it changes the game a lot. I think almost all average to upper GOW players will say no to this. If it was a voting thing, I would choose not to implement. If you wanted to do it by map, I guess you could? with support.