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Quote from: BabyShark on April 18, 2018, 10:59:58 AM
Muslim is defined as one who follows the teachings of Muhammad.
Actually the word MUSLIM (a transliteration from Arabic) is an Arabic compound word. Mu-Slim. The "Mu" is for a person or is used when describing a tool. "Slim" comes from the trilateral root "seen"+"laam"+"meem" which means both Submission and Peace. From the Islamic perspective, the word Mu-Slim means "a person who is submitted to Allah (God)"
The word Islam (another compound word) is a state of existence which translates as "submission to Allah (God)".
By definition, Jesus was one who was submitted to Allah (God).
And Allah does NOT translate into "The God". Allah is a proper noun, i.e. God's Name. Al-Elah translates as "The God".
All Christian Arabs know this. They call God Allah and Jesus Ibnullah (Son of Allah).
You should learn Arabic, it will expand your mind and intellect.
Quote from: BabyShark on April 18, 2018, 10:59:58 AM
Muhammad was born about 570 AD, hundreds of years AFTER Christ, and Muhammad died and still lies in his grave.
Jesus is the Son of God, God in the flesh, born of the virgin Mary, who came here to save us all from our sins.
The tomb of Jesus is EMPTY. He is risen from the dead and lives and reigns forevermore with the Father.
The dead Muhammad can offer no hope or help to the human race, which is mired in sin and evil. Muhammad is still in his grave.
Jesus died for all people, including those who follow and worship Muhammad and Muhammad's invented god.
All who trust in Jesus Christ to save them will be saved and have eternal life with God in heaven. All who reject Christ will be condemned to eternal torment because there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we may be saved.
No Muslim worships Muhammad (well, I'm sure some Sufi's do, and the Shi'ites worship Ali and their Ayatollahs) since that would invalidate the core principle teaching of Islam being TAWHEED (Pure Monotheism). The Christians worship a man, who they consider the "Son of God", Jesus, son of Mary (May Allah's blessings be upon them).
A Muslim who worships Mohammad would be known as a Mu-shrik (A person that associates partners with Allah). Christians are technically Mushrikeen (people who associate partners with Allah/ the "een" at the end of the word is a plural of 3 or more people). Shirk (polytheism) is the root word in this case.
Jesus (Peace be upon him), in Matthew 5:17, says:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
The Law in this case is the Law of Moses [Exodus 20:1-8], and the first Law of the Commandments given to Moses (Peace be upon him) was Tawheed:
And God spake all these words, saying, I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Jesus said in Matthew 22:37/38:
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment.
As we can see, that Jesus was sent to call the people back to this original Law/Commandment as his primary objective.
Returning to what Jesus is attributed as saying, in Matthew 5:17/18/19 (and in context):
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Allah, The Most High, says in the Qur'aan, Suraat Adh Dhaariyyaat (The Winnowing Winds; Chapter 51), verse 56:
وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ
And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).
And, in [Q. 4:159]:
وَإِن مِّنْ أَهْلِ الْكِتَابِ إِلَّا لَيُؤْمِنَنَّ بِهِ قَبْلَ مَوْتِهِ ۖ وَيَوْمَ الْقِيَامَةِ يَكُونُ عَلَيْهِمْ شَهِيدًا
And there is none of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), but must believe in him ['Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), as only a Messenger of Allah and a human being], before his ['Iesa (Jesus) or a Jew's or a Christian's] death (at the time of the appearance of the angel of death). And on the Day of Resurrection, he ['Iesa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them.
in [Q. 5:78]:
لُعِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ عَلَىٰ لِسَانِ دَاوُودَ وَعِيسَى ابْنِ مَرْيَمَ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ بِمَا عَصَوا وَّكَانُوا يَعْتَدُونَ
Those among the Children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of Dawud (David) and 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). That was because they disobeyed (Allah and the Messengers) and were ever transgressing beyond bounds.
in [Q. 5:11]:
وَإِذْ أَوْحَيْتُ إِلَى الْحَوَارِيِّينَ أَنْ آمِنُوا بِي وَبِرَسُولِي قَالُوا آمَنَّا وَاشْهَدْ بِأَنَّنَا مُسْلِمُونَ
And when I (Allah) put in the hearts of Al-Hawarieen (the disciples) [of 'Iesa (Jesus)] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: "We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims."
And, in [Q. 19:36]:
وَإِنَّ اللَّهَ رَبِّي وَرَبُّكُمْ فَاعْبُدُوهُ ۚ هَٰذَا صِرَاطٌ مُّسْتَقِيمٌ
['Iesa (Jesus) said]: "And verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him (Alone). That is the Straight Path. (Allah's Religion of Islamic Monotheism which He did ordain for all of His Prophets)."
As for the claim that we worship Muhammad, then this is negated by the Hadeeth found in Saheeh al-Bukhaaree (3445):
حَدَّثَنَا الْحُمَيْدِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا سُفْيَانُ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ الزُّهْرِيَّ، يَقُولُ أَخْبَرَنِي عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، سَمِعَ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ يَقُولُ عَلَى الْمِنْبَرِ سَمِعْتُ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " لاَ تُطْرُونِي كَمَا أَطْرَتِ النَّصَارَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ، فَإِنَّمَا أَنَا عَبْدُهُ، فَقُولُوا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ وَرَسُولُهُ ".
Narrated `Umar: I heard the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasalam) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle."
Anyway, personal opinions about Scripture won't save you. The only One who can save mankind is Allah as He is the Lord of All that exists in the heavens and the earth, this includes Jesus, son of Mary. We are all waiting for the End, and then we will all come to know the truth of the matter.
I can see that you are determined only to be hostile and aggressive and attack me and have no interest in learning the truth...
...I'm happy to spend my time talking to people who are actually interested in truth, but when people are repeatedly shown, for example, Scripture that says that Jesus is God and refuse to acknowledge it and still keep saying the Bible doesn't teach that Jesus is God, it just becomes unprofitable to spend time engaging with a person who will not accept evidence from a source that they claim to acknowledge as an authority.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and questions. This opens the door for some interesting and useful discussion!
You are sharing good, logical questions, and I am happy to delve into them!
If you can convince me you are a truth-seeker, rather than just an attacker who wants to waste my time with frivolous and ridiculous claims that even atheists and unbelievers would or should recognize as being unScriptural, I am happy to spend more time on discussion. But a mean-spirited attacker could make up new wild claims every day that would take an hour to answer, when he is actually not at all interested in learning, but only in tearing down.
What is your goal?
My goal for you is that you come to a knowledge of the truth and to know the love of Jesus Christ who has died for your sins and mine. I want you to be saved because I care.
I want to thank you for allowing me the opportunity to engage in useful dialogue with you. It is a rare person who is actually willing to put themselves and their thoughts on the line like you are doing, and I respect you for it.
It's great to see that we are digging into material and able to talk about it, a Muslim and a Christian having a conversation and discussing beliefs and writings from the past.
I am really glad that you are digging into what's in the Bible and thinking about it, and sharing those thoughts. This is what we need more of in the world, is digging into and discussing ideas and thoughts and beliefs openly, rather than simply labelling people (as Adam J. Macleod discusses in his article) and refusing to engage in what the beliefs and views actually are, in order to be able to logically either agree or disagree.
I'm short on time atm, but will get on discussing these further with you!
Again, thank you for being willing to discuss and share and dialogue. I appreciate you for this.
I personally find Ze_Saint to be by far the most willing to engage in actual topics and discuss actual issues, which I greatly respect him for, even though we see things quite differently at this point. I welcome points of view and discussion, from all viewpoints and people. Personal attacks and mislabelling do nothing to promote and increase understanding. I would love to be able to focus on having an actual discussion with Ze_Saint
I can see that you are determined only to be hostile and aggressive and attack me and have no interest in learning the truth.
Your best, most recent defense is the opinions of some random people who are either ignorant or evil (in order to defend a religion that endorses these evils). That argument is so weak that it simply isn't worth addressing.
Taqiyya is the Islamic teaching that Muslims are allowed to lie to non-Muslims in order to make their religion sound less dangerous than it actually is to non-Muslims
This is a good question, a fair question. If most religions are false, and there sure are a lot of them, how do you know yours is true?
There are 8747 false gods mentioned in the Bible. The number of false gods throughout history is most likely uncountable.
There certainly is a designer of the universe. Even Richard Dawkins sees this, yet claims that the fact that everything appears to be designed is an "illusion" and that perhaps aliens started life on earth (since science cannot answer how life originated). The origin of the universe and the origin of life are outside of science. We can look at what we can learn from science, things we can observe, study, test, demonstrate, repeat to come to logical conclusions. It is a logical conclusion when presented with ordered information such as DNA, the blueprint for life, that is too complex for the human mind to understand, since intelligent information has never been observed to form itself, that an intelligent mind produced it. It is logical to conclude that a very intelligent mind designed this universe.
So whose mind was it? Was it an alien, as Dawkins suggests? I don't think so. Dawkins is fine with the idea of intelligent design (if it's an alien that doesn't have rules for our lives) but the idea of the true God from the Bible is abhorrent to him, not because of science, but because of our evil sinful nature that rebels against God and wants to be our own god.
How do we know the maker of the universe? How do we learn what this entity is and wants?
The vast majority of humans have been theists, because it is the inescapable reality that this world was created by someone superior to humans.
God has given us the Bible so that we can learn about Him, and most importantly, learn about Jesus, the ONLY answer to the problem we all have. We are sinners. We've broken God's rules, we've used God's name in vain, we've despised God and His Word, we've dishonored our parents, we've refused God's gifts, we've have murderous thoughts and hurtful actions towards other people, we've had lustful, adulterous thoughts and actions, we've coveted what isn't ours to have, we've stolen and we've lied. We haven't loved other people as we should. We've been greedy, gluttonous, self-absorbed, proud, conceited, boastful, hateful, and all around disgusting. Offensive in the sight of a holy God.
God's love for us was so vast that He became a human, kept the law perfectly in our place, so that He could be the substitute for us and take God's wrath on Himself. Jesus was crucified and died and was buried. He then rose from the dead, appeared to many disciples, and eventually ascended to heaven, and will return in might and power as King to judge the world.
I can't wait to see Him. Everyone who has rejected Him will shake in terror when that day comes, since they will be standing on their own account of actions, thoughts, and words before a holy and just God who judges evil.
I won't be standing on my own account of actions. I will be standing on the holy, perfect account of Jesus Christ, which He has given to me as a free gift through faith, and offers to you as well.
This is what the Bible teaches.
So why am I convinced? How do I know it's true? Am I just brainwashed and accept whatever I was taught?
The historicity of Jesus is undeniable. Jesus existed in history, and even Christianity's historical haters and opponents didn't bother trying to deny the existence of Jesus. So who was this Jesus? Was he just a man who managed to deceive a lot of people into thinking He was God? Or was His claim that He is God true?
There is a very low resurrection rate among dead people. Most of the people who die stay dead.
Jesus didn't stay dead. He appeared to many disciples, many of whom were killed for defending their faith. They were eyewitnesses, they were there. If they HADN'T seen a resurrected Jesus, they would certainly not be willing to die to defend the truth that they had.
The Bible is historically and scientifically accurate. The Bible is beyond any book that has ever been written by people. It is filled with goodness, righteousness, truth, wisdom, fulfilled prophecies from hundreds or thousands of years earlier. Look into the historical veracity of the Bible.
The teachings found in it are not of human origin. The teaching of Jesus Christ is counter to sinful man's mind. ALL false religions are based on works-righteousness, that we have to earn our way into god's favor by following rules. The teaching that we are saved by grace through faith is contrary to the human mind that wants, in pride and rebellion, to be good enough without God.
We need saving. Look at the world around you. It's falling apart.
Bombings, suicides, murders, rapes, hatred, wars, child abuse, divorce, poverty, and the grave where we are all destined to decay are a snapshot of the evil inside of every human being.
I believe the truth of the Bible because all the evidence points there. The Bible has been right about everything, from the sinfulness of man, to the fact that the earth hangs upon nothing (which was in the Bible in Job 26:7 something like 3500 years ago, which was discovered much later by people to be true, as impossible as it seemed to ancient people that something could hang on nothing). There are many examples in the Bible where God revealed in Scripture what scientists discovered much later.
The Bible is the truth, it's trustworthy, it's the Word of God, and it's given to us because God loves us and wants us to know Him and know the truth.
Nothing is more important than knowing Him, Jordan.
Don't wait. Don't ignore it. God's calling you now.
We never know when our time of grace will be up, whether we will first die or whether Jesus will return to judge the world first. It could be tonight.
Your reply proves what a bunch of whiny crybabies there are in the muslim world. Every time there is anything that even remotely transgresses (or in this case, merely disagrees with) Islam or its adherents there's a jihad or intifada, or at least a very weak and lame attack (such as calling me out as "ignorant/uninformed/misinformed" blah blah blah.
Let me know if there is anything in the video you disagree with, and why, if you wish to open discourse with me.
I find it hilarious that the guy talking about "credentials" just finished posting a picture of a brain-damaged boxer (R.I.P.) as evidence for why Islam should be held with any esteem at all. Lol...
Out of curiosity what was it that made you decide to make BS a mod? Was it because you thought she would make the forums more active? Was it because you thought she would do a good job?
There are 4 books of Moses; Genesis, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
When Christ comes, we don't see the law of Moses replaced, but a sinful, rebellious people is given the "grace" of GOD, whereas Moses, who is less powerful and righteous than Christ, brought the "law" of GOD. The gathering is no more to Moses and the "law" of Moses (the faithful in Christ are no longer "under" the law) differing to what was in times past, but the gathering is supposed to be to Christ now
Instead of going by what some uninformed people have to say
If being a Christian means following the teachings of Jesus Christ as BabyShark was suggesting earlier, then as a Muslim, I have every right to say that I too am more Christian than BabyShark.
Your reasoning is that people who do what Jesus did and live like Jesus did and copy His behavior are Christians.
Not all people who call themselves Muslims are Muslims and not all people who call themselves Christians are Christians. Actually being the label means believing the teachings of the founder of the religion, Jesus or Muhammad.
If you don't have to do EVERYTHING Jesus did to be a Christian, surely I and every single human being qualifies, for most of us have breathed, talked, walked, slept, eaten, drank water, and dressed ourselves. Like Jesus did.
You claim to follow the words of Jesus Christ but in reality, you are only following Paul. Let's have a look at which of Jesus's or Paul's teachings you follow:
1. Adhering to the laws and commandments
Jesus tells you to keep the laws and the commandments [Matthew 5:17-20]
Paul says that the Law will not bring any justification but a man will only be justified by faith in Christ Jesus. [Galatians 2:16]
You follow Paul.
2. How to attain salvation
Jesus links salvation to the keeping of the commandments. [Matthew 19:16-17]
According to Paul, just professing that Jesus is Lord and that he was raised from the dead will result in the person being saved [Romans 10:9]
You follow Paul.
Paul initiated the whole doctrine of atonement based on the concept of 'original sin' (ROMANS 5:12, 1 CORINTHIANS 15:21-22). Such a concept which states that every human being is born stained with the sin of Adam and Eve, is against the Justice of God. Major Yeats Brown in his book Life of a Bengal Dancer comments on this absurd concept:
"No heathen tribe has conceived so grotesque an idea, involving as it does the assumption, that man was born with a hereditary stain upon him; and that this stain (for which he is not personably responsible) was to be atoned for; and that the Creator of all things had to sacrifice his only begotten son to neutralize this mysterious curse."
3. Eating the flesh of the swine
Jesus never ate the pig as he followed the Law, which states: "The pig is also unclean; although it has a divided hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses." [Deuteronomy 14:8].
Paul allows everything to be eaten, regardless of what the Law says. [Corinthians 10:25]
You follow Paul.
Jesus was circumcised on the 8th day. [Luke 2:21]. And Jesus says, "he is not of me who does not take up his cross and follow me" as I quoted before.
Paul says circumcision is nothing and non-circumcision is nothing. [Corinthians 7:19]
What is good for your "Lord" should be good for you, but the bulk of Christians would rather follow Paul in not circumcising.
You follow Paul.
So, I'm confused. Which words of Jesus are YOU following? Can't you see, you're following Paul all the way.
43. Muhammad was a good role model and we should believe and follow what he wrote and taught
I don't know
im more of a Christian than you, i say with all possible humility
First of all, this is not a game. These topics have to do with real life.
There are real life girls and women being abused, tortured, mutilated, stoned, beaten, raped, and killed every day in Islamic countries. This is reality.
This is not a game.
I am here to speak for the victims of abuse and oppression, because I care about them.