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Messages - Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

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"Civil behavior is expected from players on this server.  We will not hand down punishment lightly, but repeated complaints against a user can result in a temporary or permanent ban."

I just threw that rule together on the spot, but as you see i made it based on complaints, so basically you can say whatever the hell you want in privacy as long as the people you're with are cool with it.  If you're harassing people or pissing off people that can see the messages, and they complain to us about it, then you could be banned!  A single complaint wouldnt get anyone in trouble so users wouldnt be allowed to play "gotcha!" and catch someone saying something rude once and use it against them.  A stack of complaints would get someone banned, short-term at first probably but eventually longer-term

I actually agree with Warbux that there should be rules or warnings before we go banning people.  This community has consistently voted against punishing people for bad behavior, and mostly has only supported bans for hacking.

I think having a set of rules we follow is for the best, but I also believe in contextual decision-making and common sense.  So, for example, the appropriate thing here (if people think Van is a problem) would be to announce a rule such as:

"Civil behavior is expected from players on this server.  We will not hand down punishment lightly, but repeated complaints against a user can result in a temporary or permanent ban."  Then admins can use their own discretion based on complaints and history if someone is running afoul of that rule.  Tbh van is likely the only violator.  But we should roll something like that out, with the approval of the community, and then wait and see how van behaves before taking any action against him -- imho.

@iL @Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) @mousEtopher

Can any of you confirm whether there were multiple votes from the same person (outlaw and xurnt for example) on the poll? And if so what the real voting numbers are?
I can't see the results. You set it to private when you created it  :sweat:

Maybe as admins iL and Mouse could see it, but anyway, I voted no...

19) Server.War2.ru / Re: im backk
« on: October 25, 2019, 08:11:24 PM »
All of y'all mother fuckers, fuck you, die slow, motherfucker ..My .44 make sure all y'all kids don't grow. You motherfuckers can't be us or see us. We motherfuckin' War2 Council, War2.RU 'til we die. Out here in .RU, nibba, we warned ya. We'll bomb on you motherfuckers. We do our job

Why is this guy an admin? Am I seriously the only person who is embarrassed to be associated this?

@iL @Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)
He’s screwing around, “rapping” and having fun. Outside of the n-word it’s harmless.

20) Server.War2.ru / Re: Unmute Burnt?
« on: October 11, 2019, 01:56:02 PM »
I'm not "picking" on him. Hes saying crazy shit. He needs to know it's crazy.

He just sent me pictures of dead weeds (not grass) and said some thing like "see.. definitely gasoline" .. when there is absolutely no way to tell how the weeds died. Looks like very natural dead weeds to me?

Some really strange shit going on with him..
Yeah, he wouldn't be muted if he was just saying things we didn't like.  He's muted because he's legitimately lost his grip on reality and letting him fill the forum with actual psychotic delusions doesn't help anyone.

If you guys wanna see a good guy who is the reason war2.ru exists be able to indulge, extensively and publicly, in unhinged and depressing nonsensical rants, so everyone can crane their necks and gawk at how the founding admin thinks War2 players are being run over by tractors and having their gasoline poured on their farms while Tupac's spirit imbues him, we can unmute him.  If you want him to have this place to continue to focus his unhealthy delusions on, all right, we can give it another try at least for awhile.  But if you're thinking "burnt is good, why are we punishing him" or "let people speak their minds!" then I kind of think you're missing what's actually going on here.

21) Server.War2.ru / Re: Unmute Burnt?
« on: October 07, 2019, 11:27:47 AM »
From someone who has and is still suffering from alot of mental illness, the fact you guys are labeling him "sick and mentally unstable" is hurtful and damaging fyi..

Also for all we know someone could of put gassoline on his lawn, but he is misplacing the blame on a wc2 player, maybe it was some dumb local teenagers doing stupid sh1t for a laugh burning everyones lawns in the neigbourhood..

and if he is suffering delluisons muting him from the forums isnt going to help him, the delluisons will take place in some other aspect of his life. Muting him is purly selfish intentions imo.

Thanks for all the work you done for warcraft 2 burnt, just so you know if your reading this. None of this stuff lately has changed my respect or appreationsation for you and all the work you done for wc2  buddy.
I see what you're saying about mental health and I don't know the exact right way to approach it, but Burnt is talking about clear delusions: War2ers putting gasoline on his lawn, God intervening to tell him he'll find out what happened in some game he played, and when I use the words "sick" and "ill" what I'm trying to do is to communicate to Burnt in a clear, direct way that these are delusions, that he's not doing well, and that he needs to get help.  I feel that letting him keep posting here will just encourage him to dig deeper and deeper into these same delusions. 

I don't think just muting him is going to help him get better, you're right about that, but the only people that can help him get better are the ones he has around him in real life... He needs real treatment, and letting him post here not only isn't going to help him, it is just going to make him into more of a spectacle, of people coming and looking to see the weird stuff Burnt is saying, poking him a bit to get a reaction, then getting mad at him because he won't listen to reason, and so on... 

I'm not set in stone on him being muted, and was fine to see him return once when the mute automatically wore off... and this mute will wear off too.  I don't want to be like "out of sight, out of mind" after he more than anyone else built this community... but as long as he's posting about being imbued with the spirit of Tupac by praying for Van, I mean, it just doesn't seem appropriate to let him keep doing this.

22) Server.War2.ru / Re: Unmute Burnt?
« on: October 06, 2019, 12:21:48 PM »
He thinks War2 players put gasoline on his yard to kill his grass.  It doesn't take training to know he's sick.  My hope is keeping him away from all this will stop him from obsessing over these delusions.  I just hope he has family or loved ones that can get him help.

23) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 04, 2019, 12:14:15 PM »
I did log on one time that day, because I wanted to make sure we responded to Lambchops being caught with a macro, and nobody had done that yet.  iL's log confirmed that's all that I did and that it just at a totally different time from your game. 

Van could just as easily be stretching the truth or just confused.

Angelfire could have had his account stolen or be sharing it, or he could just as easily have been afk the whole game and that's why he doesn't remember it.

I just now asked Jordan for the first time about this game, and he said it was Thumb$ that was using the Jordan name in the game you beat him, so if that's true there is definitely at least some account sharing going on, which could be causing confusion for you.

Other things like your grass, van's neighbor, or tk driving a tractor over people is just noise you need to filter out.

24) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 04, 2019, 11:24:46 AM »

Think of this from the perspective of someone who hasn't played War2 in a couple of years, and who has only logged on once or twice to ban somebody because nobody else was doing it.  Then imagine you're suddenly accused of all sorts of involvement in bizarre conspiracies by a long-time friend who is clearly losing his grip on reality.

I grant there is one confusing thing here, with Angelfire not recalling being in that game.  Remember the timestamp shows it wasn't even from the day he was asked about so he might just not recall, but if he knows he's shared his password, I hope he can clear that up.  Or if someone else broke into the account, I hope they can fess up to that.  Clearly admitting any of that, if it in fact happened, is far better than letting Burnt continue off the deep end.

25) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 04, 2019, 11:23:34 AM »
I muted Burnt because he was showing extreme symptoms of schizophrenia and it didn't seem healthy for him to be here.  I'm very disappointed that it's been 30 days and he's still focused on the same stuff.

I don't know a single thing about a any conspiracy here.  I've only logged onto War2 one time in months and it was in the middle of the afternoon, and it had nothing to do with any of this!  The timestamps don't even match up with these events.

Burnt will say timestamps and everything are faked, but they're not.  He'll say iL's logs are faked, but they're not.  He'll say posts have disappeared, but they haven't.  He also believes all sorts of things that everyone knows are insane, like that Lone is Viruz and that War2 players put gasoline on his grass and that someone burned Van's neighbor's yard.  As far as his computer being hacked, I guess it's possible but even that doesn't seem most likely to me.  This is serious mental illness and I don't think it's really fun or funny, and I don't really want to play into it or laugh at it.  It upsets me.  I just want Burnt to get better, and he'll see this as me gaslighting him or insulting him, but it is what it is.

26) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 04, 2019, 11:11:16 AM »
reposted this on the next page so it's easier to find

« on: October 02, 2019, 03:41:33 PM »
oh man prickle is a great guy.  Thats awesome

28) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 02, 2019, 10:24:06 AM »
Where did van tell me that? Plus im sure he just thinks that but my grass never turn brown before so its awfully odd that it happens the day after I get death threats.
You are suffering badly from mental illness.  This is painful to witness. :(

You were muted for a whole month and come back and still are obsessed with the same delusions.  Are there people in your real life saying anything about this?

29) Server.War2.ru / Re: Burnt!
« on: October 01, 2019, 01:39:50 PM »
Is this the post that you're saying was deleted, burnt?

I don't think your ideas of what was deleted or what is happening are reliable

30) Server.War2.ru / Re: Different balance Idea
« on: September 26, 2019, 10:40:19 AM »
What you are suggesting would end up with fireballs weaving around like guided missiles. What if you target a hasted dk at max range that is running the other diretion?
Not hard to imagine, that's just death coil.

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