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Title: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Harrywangs on June 01, 2016, 03:59:13 PM
So, everyone knows, when there is a game of say, GOW going, you pretty much have to sit and wait for the game to get out to be able to play, 80% of the time.

It is very boring to sit and stare at the chat, so then I wind up tabbing and the second I tab and go back, I've missed the game and have to wait another 15 minutes. This is rather annoying and makes me walk away from playing often.

Programmers out there, is there any chance that something could be created to make a simple chime or noise indicating when a specific game or games are over? This would be most advantageous if it worked in windows so that when you tab, you can hear when a game is out even when War2 is minimized.

Just an idea.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: BHC-JesK on June 01, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
2nd w2 in a virtual machine or window mode is my solution

is stealthbot allowed to join the server? might be a very simple solution

(http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160601/3ii2utpp.png)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 01, 2016, 05:07:32 PM
Man look in the mods section ;( Found it!

http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 01, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
man i remember there being a war2 install that made noises when certain people did stuff even before .ru came out but im not sure what happened with it :(

i usually just tab out and then check games on http://server.war2.ru/status/?old=true (http://server.war2.ru/status/?old=true)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tk[as] on June 01, 2016, 10:23:35 PM
there is no reason this game should be this dead. idgaf if it's 20 years old. it's a good game. people like playing good games, regardless of age... and it's FREE.

the ball is being dropped hard imo

the people who seem to be currently doing the most for the server aren't even the ones "in charge" of the server (mouse, ritalin)  .. not sure who else is doing what but i definitely see them going out of their way to do what they can.
Title: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 01, 2016, 10:32:11 PM
2nd w2 in a virtual machine or window mode is my solution

is stealthbot allowed to join the server? might be a very simple solution

([url]http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160601/3ii2utpp.png[/url])


Stealth would be a much simpler solution than second WM.


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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: mousEtopher on June 01, 2016, 11:41:05 PM
Yes stealthbot can join the server (that's what gamebot uses e.g.) and yes, like tupac pointed out this exact thing was already created by war_master (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html))

Unfortunately that app no longer seems to work? I couldn't get it to do anything the last few times I tried, and I don't think war_mast3r ever shared the source so it could be updated. But the premise seems dead simple, anyone who knows programming could create the same kind of thing in any language I think. If one of our community programmers can't do it maybe we could find someone on Fiverr or w/e and crowdfund it.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 02, 2016, 12:03:48 AM
Anyone else notice the porn and hacks folder


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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on June 02, 2016, 12:21:14 AM
I use stealthbot too. Just know that you need to create a separate account as if you use the same login, the server will disconnect the other account. Pretty annoying :) And the fact that SB can be left in the background/resized makes it easy...:)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 02, 2016, 05:38:35 PM
Yes stealthbot can join the server (that's what gamebot uses e.g.) and yes, like tupac pointed out this exact thing was already created by war_master ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,65.0.html[/url]))

Unfortunately that app no longer seems to work? I couldn't get it to do anything the last few times I tried, and I don't think war_mast3r ever shared the source so it could be updated. But the premise seems dead simple, anyone who knows programming could create the same kind of thing in any language I think. If one of our community programmers can't do it maybe we could find someone on Fiverr or w/e and crowdfund it.


Mousey would you like a copy of the vapor chat bot i have edited its programmed in vb6. You can edit the messages it receives when whispered for example you get a msg from server when your friends join a game.

well you can use that variable already in the code and make a code like to this

sendchat("/f m " + FRIENDMSG)

so anyone one that is on that bots flist would get msg about game just from the bot with out having that person on the flist. Could do all of this easily even add a sound on the bots end for you. Make a few commands .faddme <--- this would obviously make it so your games are displayed and make you receive msgs other people who host.


When i went this route it works but when you guys added the forums data i the pvpgn msg its flood my bot out. Also maybe you find a way to ignore the first 20?
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tk[as] on June 02, 2016, 05:40:13 PM
i cannot believe that this is our "go-to" solution.  this server is so fucked =/
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 02, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
i cannot believe that this is our "go-to" solution.  this server is so fucked =/
What do you mean. Everything is how the game is designed. So new things for this game is a blessing right? Also if there where better people to do all the staffs hard work why haven't they taken over yet?
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: mousEtopher on June 02, 2016, 06:22:56 PM
Damn tk, all that negativity not helping anything. (Btw still waiting on your bio..! http://en.war2.ru/bios (http://en.war2.ru/bios))

Sure tupac, I wouldn't mind messing with it. Idk anything about vb really but I can try! I hope the php integration iL & Lance were working on eventually pans out, could probably do lots of cool stuff with it and that's the one language I actually do know.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: dellam on June 02, 2016, 06:58:54 PM
Fuck it's funny how you morons think

----there's only one game going on , we should make it so that there is a sound when the one game finishes .
That's how not only one person , but that's how the whole community thinks


Wouldn't it be smarter to say/do

There's only 1 game going and no other players, we should make it so there is 50 games going and a gow game fills up in 1 minute .

Wouldn't that be smarter ???

Wow it amazes me how the admin here think





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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 02, 2016, 07:54:06 PM
Lets try to keep this thread on topic and not trashed. I think this part of the forums should be heavy moderated. We all have done it maybe we should stop. Anyone ever notice how it messes up the search engine when you look for stuff..?
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 02, 2016, 08:00:30 PM
war2.warcraft.org/forum is down right now so i tried to go to occult.war2.ru and uhh.  iL?  might wanna fix that, didn't that used to be a back-up of the old war2 forum?

i know this special version of war2 existed where the client would make noises for certain stuff and i wanted to try to find it
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 02, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
war2.warcraft.org/forum is down right now so i tried to go to occult.war2.ru and uhh.  iL?  might wanna fix that, didn't that used to be a back-up of the old war2 forum?

i know this special version of war2 existed where the client would make noises for certain stuff and i wanted to try to find it
You thinking of my old program that I used to play a wave file when it detected an admin logging in? Way back in my bot days.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tk[as] on June 02, 2016, 10:10:36 PM
i am desperately not trying to be negative but that is the reality of the situation as i see it... i actually agree with dellam.

expecting individual members within the community to download/install/run programs that notify them when a game gets out so they can hurry up and join before it restarts? that's a real idea? that's a reasonable solution?

if that's where we are as a community we might as well just broadcast on the server "dear war2.ru, server is dead.. thanks for playing... go find a new game to play now"
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 02, 2016, 10:13:23 PM
i am desperately not trying to be negative but that is the reality of the situation as i see it... i actually agree with dellam.

expecting individual members within the community to download/install/run programs that notify them when a game gets out so they can hurry up and join before it restarts? that's a real idea? that's a reasonable solution?

if that's where we are as a community we might as well just broadcast on the server "dear war2.ru, server is dead.. thanks for playing... go find a new game to play now"


So why be negative about a solution to keep that player from joining a match to play the game? If you disagree with my decision you can post here.

http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/board,17.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/board,17.0.html)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: mousEtopher on June 03, 2016, 10:10:09 AM
war2.warcraft.org/forum is down right now so i tried to go to occult.war2.ru and uhh.  iL?  might wanna fix that, didn't that used to be a back-up of the old war2 forum?

i know this special version of war2 existed where the client would make noises for certain stuff and i wanted to try to find it

Ahhh lol, did you pm him about that?

i am desperately not trying to be negative but that is the reality of the situation as i see it... i actually agree with dellam.

expecting individual members within the community to download/install/run programs that notify them when a game gets out so they can hurry up and join before it restarts? that's a real idea? that's a reasonable solution?

if that's where we are as a community we might as well just broadcast on the server "dear war2.ru, server is dead.. thanks for playing... go find a new game to play now"


Not a solution, but a workaround to a problem we can't just wave a magic wand and fix. We've been over and over this -- we need dedicated programming for bug fixes & improvements, we need advertising, we need people who can dedicate time to hand-holding newbs & community involvement. What we have is volunteers contributing as much time & money as they can to these things but it's not enough to ever "revive" the game. We'd need a pretty substantial budget for that, which we don't have.

- What ever happened to the crowdfunding idea? It was good, it had a lot of energy, it never seemed to really get off the ground though?
- Yamon's idea is good -- to find some semi-famous YT person with war2 nostalgia and ask them to give the game a shoutout to their millions of subscribers. But first we've got to find them, and then we've got to get their attention. How many messages do you get per day when you have twelve million subscribers..? Still pondering
- I'm also pretty responsive lately to implementing any suggestions you or anyone can come up with - ad banners, icons, improving the site, or w/e
- I still plan to do the war2 business cards! :)
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: dellam on June 03, 2016, 10:14:01 AM
Problem is that the current admin don't want it to grow
. If it grows to 10,000 plus people then the will lose their jobs . That's why they constantly hinder any growth in the server
I tried years ago to build it but I couldn't understand why the admin wouldn't want it bigger .
It took me a while before I realised that I was simply wasting my time, as others after me did, as you did and as people after you will aswell.
Until u get a team of admin in who want the server to grow then your simply wasting your time


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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 03, 2016, 08:22:56 PM
Dellam is that avatar ur actual pic?
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 03, 2016, 08:32:20 PM
Dellam is that avatar ur actual pic?
I'm pretty sure it is.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 03, 2016, 11:02:22 PM
war2.warcraft.org/forum is down right now so i tried to go to occult.war2.ru and uhh.  iL?  might wanna fix that, didn't that used to be a back-up of the old war2 forum?

i know this special version of war2 existed where the client would make noises for certain stuff and i wanted to try to find it
You thinking of my old program that I used to play a wave file when it detected an admin logging in? Way back in my bot days.

It was similar to that.  It played wav files yeah im pretty sure, maybe it's the same, although i thought it was an actual install of war2 that had this, maybe not though... was years ago.  I think it could play the wave file also on watched users
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 03, 2016, 11:08:29 PM

whats the point in /beep? It say audible on?
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: dellam on June 04, 2016, 04:20:58 AM
Dellam is that avatar ur actual pic?


Yes it's from when I went to my prom

My mom took the picture . But I went to the prom with another girl from my school .


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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on June 04, 2016, 09:24:41 AM
im not familiar with /beep
but i remember i got rid of that version when i had it, because it made too much noise, i think it was doing chimes and stuff whenever people on my friends list did stuff
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: ~ToRa~ on June 04, 2016, 11:19:09 AM
Dellam is that avatar ur actual pic?


Yes it's from when I went to my prom

My mom took the picture . But I went to the prom with another girl from my school .


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Well...That explains a lot
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: dellam on June 04, 2016, 11:41:23 AM
Explains that I look damn good in a suit !!!!


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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Harrywangs on June 04, 2016, 03:00:57 PM
Dellam/TK, yes it would be easier to just have another 10k people playing this game but that is simply offering an answer without any solution.

That is like saying, tell everyone to stop smoking and lung cancer will drop 95%. Well, no shit, but HOW DO YOU DO IT?

Please do not criticize unless you have some sort of constructive answer yourselves.

Otherwise, if this is what the game has come to, then we do the best we can with it, instead of making it worse.

Also, there are a lot of times there are multiple games up, but I want to join a specific one.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: EviL~Ryu on June 04, 2016, 05:26:29 PM
....


That is like saying, tell everyone to stop smoking and lung cancer will drop 95%. Well, no shit, but HOW DO YOU DO IT?

....

....
...stop smoking...
....




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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: dellam on June 04, 2016, 06:42:14 PM
Dellam/TK, yes it would be easier to just have another 10k people playing this game but that is simply offering an answer without any solution.

That is like saying, tell everyone to stop smoking and lung cancer will drop 95%. Well, no shit, but HOW DO YOU DO IT?

Please do not criticize unless you have some sort of constructive answer yourselves.

Otherwise, if this is what the game has come to, then we do the best we can with it, instead of making it worse.

Also, there are a lot of times there are multiple games up, but I want to join a specific one.


Hey, I understand were your coming from

I spent a lot of time on solutions a year ago and even offered my recourses , none of the admin wanted growth and each growth opportunity was shut down by admin . I'm not going to waste more time explaining it to
You but there are several threads in this forum ( they are large) you should read them . Some of them offered the server 10,000 players



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Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: mousEtopher on June 05, 2016, 02:19:29 AM
damn, dellam is Equinox 2.0 these days!

Here Harry, I made it for you: http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/ (http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/)

WIP -- basically it duplicates the functionality of war_mast3r's app, it chimes when games are created (instead of when they end like you suggested) and can monitor all new games or specific maps only**. In my tests it detects new games within 1-3 seconds of hosting so should still give enough time to join them. Also supports monitoring any map containing x word (e.g. "chop" or "bgh") for maps that have 9230842 different versions. Post feedback here.

** must remove "All maps" from the right side list first or it will override the maps you select
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 05, 2016, 02:21:27 AM
damn, dellam is Equinox 2.0 these days!

Here Harry, I made it for you: [url]http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/[/url] ([url]http://server.war2.ru/status/mon/[/url])

WIP -- basically it duplicates the functionality of war_mast3r's app, it chimes when games are created (instead of when they end like you suggested) and can monitor all new games or specific maps only**. In my tests it detects new games within 1-3 seconds of hosting so should still give enough time to join them. Also supports monitoring any map containing x word (e.g. "chop" or "bgh") for maps that have 9230842 different versions. Post feedback here.

** must remove "All maps" from the right side list first or it will override the maps you select

should make it so we can input the map ;/
nvm
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: Harrywangs on June 05, 2016, 09:17:44 PM
Mouse, I just tried and and it seems to work pretty well. Nice job. This is really nice.

Need to try and advertise this around a little, see if people like it.
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: tupac on June 05, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
He's a broke failure.
Moseyyy WTF NO FREE CASTLES MAP!!!!!!!    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Tired of waiting and missing games
Post by: mousEtopher on June 06, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
Mouse, I just tried and and it seems to work pretty well. Nice job. This is really nice.

Need to try and advertise this around a little, see if people like it.

Cool, glad you like. I'll make a thread showing it off, you tell all your friends about it!



He's a broke failure.
Moseyyy WTF NO FREE CASTLES MAP!!!!!!!    :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Copy + paste exact pud name and I'll add it. :3