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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Sentinel1 on February 03, 2018, 06:42:19 PM

Title: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Sentinel1 on February 03, 2018, 06:42:19 PM
lol  ;D
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Szwagier on February 03, 2018, 08:14:24 PM
i dont care I can be last(xd) but guess, i see he care if he still talk about me
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Yamon on February 04, 2018, 12:42:55 PM
azazel do you really think if swift played as much as u8t that he wouldn't be better? i mean it's pretty obv he would.

it takes most players like 2 weeks of daily play to unrust, kyle plays like once in a blue moon for 2 games. U8t plays so much, that if no one is online he makes a campaign in map editor.

I don't think anyone cares enough about u8t to talk about him, let alone kyle. It seems like players that have like 3 years experience in 2018 are the ones that do.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 04, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
^^Swift and u8 do spend about the same amount of time gaming latley. Only difference is u8 only plays with quality players like braviet and alf-attack.
Swift tends to game more jordan and 00joe.

Thou I will say last I checked swift has held the #1 ladder spot for months now.

http://ladder.war2.ru (http://ladder.war2.ru)
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Raz on February 04, 2018, 01:28:36 PM
Interesting thread! Could be good.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Lambchops on February 04, 2018, 01:56:40 PM
... blah blah blah some pile of crap nobody cares about ...

Damn Yamon I absolutely love that you still have that quote by that illiterate guy that doesn't even make sense in your sig. I get a good lol every time I see it. It's the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks bud.

It does make me wonder why nobody has hit him over the head by a shovel though ;D

                 :critter:
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: easycompany on February 04, 2018, 05:04:10 PM
i accidentally played against swift in a 7vs1 custom map someone made for him.... we was all human and orcs so it wasnt like it was unbal just some custom...oh he won,they are so dam good, watching replays just dont do full justice.

the dude that made the map was on our team :/ and pretty dam good players with me  i blow but i can mass if i got to.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Lone on February 05, 2018, 07:29:52 AM
On that map you have to lock him into his base at start all together. 3-4 players were enough multiple times
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: easycompany on February 05, 2018, 08:56:41 AM
we was trying  ;D
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Sentinel1 on February 06, 2018, 02:05:13 AM
I don't think anyone cares enough about u8t to talk about him, let alone kyle.


actually swift just said u8 is a tier 2 player which is why i made this thread.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Raz on February 06, 2018, 08:32:03 AM
Just trolling :D Fyi, he's said in chat to u8 that he considers him top 30 of all time. I don't know enough about war2 history but could that be trash talking disguised as a compliment?
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Szwagier on February 06, 2018, 12:17:19 PM
Its hard to Say about top since game Still develops i watch few Old replays and they place buildings in diffrent, worst place


anyway swift u should be quiet about where is my place, me>you you>me since u didnt come when i was waiting for 0 reaction from u
http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,3175.30.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,3175.30.html)
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Shotgun on February 06, 2018, 02:26:30 PM
Who cares I own them both, n00bs.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 06, 2018, 04:36:59 PM
^^Sg u have any recording of yourself winning against the tier 1s?
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Shotgun on February 07, 2018, 02:55:34 PM
I never really cared enough. I video'd one series vs swift bout 10 years ago as he wouldnt play otherwise. They are long gone, unless $pace still has them.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 07, 2018, 05:26:06 PM
i'd say u8 is a better warcraft player. swift might be a better gow/ef player.


but yeah.. swift plays this game just as much as anyone else.. at all hours of the day.. under different names.


u8 is kurwa regardless
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Shotgun on February 07, 2018, 09:31:35 PM
I don't know about other settings but on GOW High u8 wouldn't win many games vs Swift.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 07, 2018, 10:48:16 PM
^^u8 won the last Gow High series they played.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Szwagier on February 08, 2018, 01:53:05 AM
Thats True about random Maps and gow vs swift
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Lambchops on February 08, 2018, 02:42:46 AM
Just trolling :D Fyi

Sorry buddy, but starting any post like this is an automatic troll fail. Please improve your game.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 08, 2018, 08:04:10 AM
Would everyone agree that braviet is better than Viruz now?
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Lone on February 08, 2018, 08:21:02 AM
Would everyone agree that braviet is better than Viruz now?

I've only been away for a few months. Doubt a magnificent change like this could take place in such a small time frame.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Szwagier on February 08, 2018, 08:55:41 AM
Would everyone agree that braviet is better than Viruz now?
Braviet is inactive now, anyway its Still about spots
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Swift on February 08, 2018, 07:03:18 PM
Better than U8?

Speaking just in terms of 1vs1s, I personally think I am better than anyone ever at them. That's nothing new, everyone knows I've always thought that. Also, I know that I could just be wrong. Just about everyone at or near the top of anything probably has a heightened sense of their own abilities - it comes with the territory.

I think U8 has a lot of advantages over the current era.

-I don't know about now, but he was very active against good competition for a long period of time.
-He seems to have a motivation/passion for the game that none of the other top players have.
-The game's meta has without a doubt evolved in a lot of ways over the last 2-3 years, and I think U8 might even be responsible for a lot of that.

All of those three things are massive advantages. The last of the three is the most fascinating to me, because me vs him is clearly an outdated style vs a more evolved one. It would take me some games to close that gap and get up to speed on some of the changes, but I think once I did it would be very bad for U8. Of course, that is all speculation because I'm long passed ever playing the game like that. It's fun to imagine though :D

U8 is very smart and innovative, and perhaps his biggest disadvantage is that he didn't get the opportunity to play the very best players during their peaks - perhaps he would have gotten even better.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Swift on February 08, 2018, 07:12:46 PM
In hindsight, that was too amicable. Not very Swift like.

This is how it plays out if U8 and I just play countless GOW games day after day: It's near even for the first 20-30 games, unless hes completely motivated (by money, ego, fun or w/e), then in that case he'll take a slight edge for the first 20-30 just because I can't match his motivation. Either way, after that 3-5 back to back series, I would figure out his style/gimmicks while also unrusting and then he wouldn't be much of a challenge. He would win a game occasionally because he's good.

As for non-gow, there would be some maps that I am better than him at, and others that it would take me a good while to surpass him on - he's very good at team games in HSC for example. I've only played him a few times on it, but I learned a LOT from him on that map.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Swift on February 08, 2018, 07:13:52 PM
Would everyone agree that braviet is better than Viruz now?

There's no reason to think that.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 08, 2018, 07:29:46 PM
Would everyone agree that braviet is better than Viruz now?
no
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 08, 2018, 07:32:01 PM
viruz would be better than swift and u8 if viruz played as much as them
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 08, 2018, 07:33:23 PM
but viruz is busy adulting ... so he doesnt play as much as swift and u8
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: ~ToRa~ on February 08, 2018, 09:52:03 PM
Listen saying that such and such would be better if they played more isn't an argument. I'm asking here and now, who is better Braviet or Viruz?
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 08, 2018, 10:21:12 PM
no fkin clue.. asking how a tier 1 inactive player would do vs a tier 2 active (im assuming) player. .. chances are the active tier 2 would win.

i remember playing poscow after he took a 6 months break but i was active.. i won a couple and then started going easy just because i felt bad so he'd win.

Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Shotgun on February 09, 2018, 01:50:17 AM
Lol Viruz is a newbie. I don't know why people ever thought he was good
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Szwagier on February 09, 2018, 03:29:10 AM
Quote
U8 is very smart and innovative, and perhaps his biggest disadvantage is that he didn't get the opportunity to play the very best players during their peaks - perhaps he would have gotten even better.

Ofc, i will work for all(IT SHOULD!) players not only me

"you play as your opponent allows you"
"you can only get smarter by playing a smarter opponent" but lots of ppl are not trying learn something new

it work for every online game, even in single sometimes you need to know how to win vs stupid ai

anyway now i got less time, less motivation and i got bored now but im sure i will back
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Sentinel1 on February 10, 2018, 06:16:26 AM
^^Sg u have any recording of yourself winning against the tier 1s?

Idk which of the two (maybe both) is responsible but Swift and SG have barely ever played each other.  I called Swift out on this once and he said they've played hundreds of times, but there's no record of this on any of their ladder accounts.  I think I counted around ten matches between them.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: foonat on February 10, 2018, 10:35:25 AM
shotgun #1
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Swift on February 10, 2018, 12:26:18 PM
^^Sg u have any recording of yourself winning against the tier 1s?

Idk which of the two (maybe both) is responsible but Swift and SG have barely ever played each other.  I called Swift out on this once and he said they've played hundreds of times, but there's no record of this on any of their ladder accounts.  I think I counted around ten matches between them.

i never said we've played hundreds. those are the same words you put in my mouth the last time i corrected you many months ago.

i imagine we've played probably somewhere a bit north of one hundred, but i'm not sure. you're the only one that cares, yet you cant manage to tally the total correctly on current ladder? it's definitely more than 10 whatever it is. we played many more during the early years of .ru which was on a different ladder.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: tk[as] on February 10, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
Shotgjun visibly upset his bame never gets brought up in the "best war2 player" discussion
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Lone on February 10, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
Shotgjun visibly upset his bame never gets brought up in the "best war2 player" discussion
If Sg was Visibily upset, it'd mean he logged in and started bashing the names mentioned in the best war2 player discussions for a few days.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Paper_Boy on February 10, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
Lol i've seen many series with Swift n Shotty, they've played extensively over the years. Not always but, Shotty would usually win the series even if just by a slim margin. Most top players over the years stop feeling the incessant need to prove themselves. Different players dominated different eras which usually correlated to how active and motivated they were. The premise of this entire poll is silly. Swift has demonstrated superior mechanics and a strategic mind IN FFA’s, Fastest, close games where its 3on1 or 4on1 vs his dual, occasional creative gays and inventive ways to win. He’s improved his team play and always does a solid job in 1’s…. Szwagier is good n solid but there haven’t been any moments where I was like “Damn I never seen this shit b4 or that was impressive”… The guy duels braviet all day  on spiral Med or or some weird shit I dunno and he’s never stood out much in team play… Not saying he doesn’t have that potential but war2 is so dead and he doesn’t seem inclined to push himself in other areas and try new things, RUSH LUST POWER 4 LIFE.  There are other modern players more impressive that would have done well in other eras like Steve, 00TONY and Lone who was 1 of the fastest learners i’ve seen. Swift has nothing to prove, every1 knows how this would end if he was active & motivated.
Title: Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
Post by: Shotgun on February 10, 2018, 10:21:12 PM
shotgun #1