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Title: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 07, 2018, 02:19:24 AM
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/6/alex-jonesinfowars-shutdown-ignites-debate-over-so/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/6/alex-jonesinfowars-shutdown-ignites-debate-over-so/)

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Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on August 07, 2018, 08:52:56 AM
damn i hope someone has these backed up
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 07, 2018, 08:55:29 AM
alex jones made his fortune exploiting fears off mentally ill people.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 07, 2018, 11:07:57 AM
i dont love the idea of these massive social media companies like facebook and google deciding what can be shared and what cant (that should be decided by a revolutionary peoples tribunal) but alex jones threatens people and clearly violates the terms of service in addition to selling unhinged dangerous nonsense to the gullible and paranoid and schizophrenic.  fuck em
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 07, 2018, 06:08:25 PM
i dont love the idea of these massive social media companies like facebook and google deciding what can be shared and what cant (that should be decided by a revolutionary peoples tribunal) but alex jones threatens people and clearly violates the terms of service in addition to selling unhinged dangerous nonsense to the gullible and paranoid and schizophrenic.  fuck em
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Paper_Boy on August 08, 2018, 06:37:50 AM
     This is essentially a modern day digital book burning. It’s very disconcerting when Big Tech assumes the role of the Thought Police, because the people can’t be trusted with information. Most people who listen to him know he’s performance art-entertainment intersperssed with political commentary. The vast majority of people are able to differentiate between a bogus satirical conspiracy theory and a sound political argument. The thing is a large segment of the MSM is derelict in their duty and are overly concerned with regurgitating partisan talking points, instead of actual hard hitting journalism. Media black outs, censorship and blatantly dishonest spin have become the new norms depending upon who we’re protecting or targeting. We live in a world of scandals and cover ups, where the IRS, DOJ and FBI target their political enemies. We still can’t see the Fully unredacted 9/11 report, JFK assassination or get a straight answer to the Vegas shootings. It’s understandable, why people seek answers even from someone outlandish in search of clarity. Most of what he utters is nonsense, but he occasionally touches on some valid points and when you throw enough speculation out there, some darts are bound to hit close to a nerve. It lends some credence that perhaps 1 of his theories struck a chord, which would explain the way they after him in such a drastic and coordinated effort in unison (10 tech companies). By making him a martyr, they have shot Info Wars app to number 3 in the App store.

   The more curious question becomes, what were the true intentions behind the ban? I reviewed some of his earlier suspensions and all he did was repost viral videos, that others had with out consequence and merely interjecting his own view point to the material. He has documented proof his accounts were in good standing before the purge and 1 of his last posts was people of all colors coming together in harmony to challenge radical ANTIFA in Portland, his position was it was devastating for their narrative and that’s the reason they NEVER bothered to provide a specific justification. There is no standard of consistency applied to other disreputable groups, like Farakhan, ANtifa, Holocaust Deniers. During Zuckberg’s testimony, he claimed it was supposedly a platform for “ALL VOICES”, where the dubious can easily be refuted by fact checkers and critical thinking. This is evident of a much larger pattern, where Big Tech continually targets libertarian and conservative ideas and thought leaders. Double Standards, shadow banning, search-feed filters, demonetization have been effectively utilized to the point where most people don’t realize they’re being told a lie or a 1/2 truth. You can’t effectively function in a modern economy, when you’re arbitrarily vanquished off the grid. Gun organizations being black balled by banks and payment platforms, Tommy Robinson banned for exposing pedofiles and Muslim extremists. This would be like a private gas company coming out and saying they will no longer sell gas to black people. Under certain state laws political affiliation is a protected class and is entitled to legal protection under the law. These Orwellian tactics definitely violate the spirit of the 1st amendment, which was once held sacred by the left. The supreme court has described Social media as the modern town square and they are correct & when you deplatform someone, they become essentially  irrelevant & invisible with in the public sphere.
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities, designating price controls and monitoring citizens for radicalization, misinformation, fake identities, users will have the power to demand certain content be taken down and hold platforms liable that don’t abide. According to Dem senator Chris Murphy; this is just the beginning and we need companies to take down more sites, “the survival of our democracy depends on it”.

   Reagan was right when he said “If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism”.
It’s frightening to hear the left echo the sentiments of Stalin “Ideas are more powerful than guns, we wouldn’t let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas”.  Historically, monopolies always abused their power until they’re broken up or regulated so that might be the next step. Apparently, it doesn’t matter how many voices you silence as long as you stop Trump, Populism, restore net neutrality, access the Chinese markets and brain wash us a little closer to the precipice of socialism.

“The amount of eccentricity in a society has generally been proportional to the amount of genius, mental vigor and moral courage it contained. That so few now dare to be eccentric marks the chief danger of the time” Or this all might be a vast cover up for the Gay Frogs~~
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on August 08, 2018, 08:36:23 AM
     This is essentially a modern day digital book burning.

i agree.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 08:47:54 AM
"Reagan was right when he said “If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism”."

why would Reagan say that, he was a liberal.  ;D he also was a fascist tbh, same with alex jones.

of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Ywfn on August 08, 2018, 08:59:36 AM
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities

But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 08, 2018, 09:01:31 AM
The Nazis burned ALL books except for their own published version of the truth. This is an entirely different thing and a quite normal action for a regulating body to take.

If a newspaper was publishing bomb-making and DIY suicide vest instructions they would be shut down. This source, it seems has also been deemed inappropriate - for whatever reason.

FB is bowing to massive public pressure. It cost them $120B before they did anything. They profit from controlling as much media as possible, including this well known site which they no doubt made millions from.

I have heard the infowars name, if its the guy I'm thinking of I have seen a couple of clips and he seems like an idiot but idk. If FB, or anyone else was shutting down ALL media from a given section of politics that would be a concern, but they will never do that.

They want EVERYONE using FB: republicans.. democrats... eskimos... native guys in grass huts. That's how they make mega-bucks.

The world market just gave them a $120 Billion kick in the nards for profiting by spreading garbage misinformation - they packed their trousers, paniced and banned the biggest pile of garbage they were making money from to try and look like the good guys.

The "book burning" rhetoric is exactly the sort of uninformed rubbish that shock-jocks make their money spreading.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 08, 2018, 09:25:16 AM
Senate Democrats are now on record wanting to regulate all digital platforms, defining tech as essential facilities

But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?

I can remember back in the '80 when they were desperatly trying to regulate the media in Australia.

One guy was buying up a massive amounts of media and controlling the information based on what made him the most money.

They introduced media ownership laws specifically to try and stop the monopoly. They failed - he just made too much money, owned too many companies and paid too many lawyers.

The guy's name was Rupert Murdoch and he went on to control a sizable portion of the world's public information.

State controlled media monopolies are bad but so are publicly owned media monopolies. The western world's media ... FB ... Murdoch... whatever else...  is not even properly regulated let alone state controlled.

If Murdoch - or some other guy - works out how to buy FB and google we are all in serious trouble. There wont be 'fake news' or 'real news' or 'your news' and 'my news' there will just be one story, which is the one story that the guy who owns it all wants to tell. The one that makes him the most money.

Media regulation continues to be an on-going battle. This is how it should be because the the worst possible outcome is having one entity controlling it all.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 08, 2018, 09:36:23 AM
of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.

Well somebody does  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.

Well somebody does  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism)



"The examples and perspective in this article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject"

nice link retard.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 08, 2018, 09:51:31 AM
fb price are dipping...soon as the big bore hits and catches fire everyone will quit and jump to another. everyone crash tom at myspace  ;D  :blank: seriously  >:(
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 12:22:04 PM
Reagan was a republican you dumb fuck
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 12:36:44 PM
Reagan was a republican you dumb fuck


'murican political literacy right here folks

probably thinks democrats are leftists
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
(https://i.redd.it/vqsfxgf95ve11.jpg)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 05:33:36 PM
Learn your quotes idiot Reagan NEVER said that.

"I do not believe in taking away the right of the citizen for sporting, for hunting and so forth, or for home defense,” he said. “But I do believe that an AK-47, a machine gun, is not a sporting weapon or needed for defense of a home."   Reagan
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
He was also a member of the NRA.  Typical dipshit pasting meme's he saw off facebook.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 05:38:19 PM
“In my opinion, proposals to outlaw or confiscate guns are simply unrealistic panacea.”

The Second Amendment “leaves little, if any, leeway for the gun control advocate,” he added that “the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive.”

“You won’t get gun control by disarming law-abiding citizens. There’s only one way to get real gun control: Disarm the thugs and the criminals, lock them up and if you don’t actually throw away the key, at least lose it for a long time… It’s a nasty truth, but those who seek to inflict harm are not fazed by gun controllers. I happen to know this from personal experience.”

And, my favorite:

“There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism — government.”
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 08, 2018, 06:17:46 PM
"I am a gay man" - Ronald Reagan. Unknown but powerful quote
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 08, 2018, 06:18:45 PM
Alex Jones was a good start...now let's outlaw the rest of the bourgeois media!!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 08, 2018, 07:04:38 PM
brady bunch dad  mike brady gay :o opps what is this 40 years to late? alex jones is a nut what i remember..i didnt watch that shit anyhow
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 07:15:12 PM
“In my opinion, proposals to outlaw or confiscate guns are simply unrealistic panacea.”

The Second Amendment “leaves little, if any, leeway for the gun control advocate,” he added that “the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive.”

“You won’t get gun control by disarming law-abiding citizens. There’s only one way to get real gun control: Disarm the thugs and the criminals, lock them up and if you don’t actually throw away the key, at least lose it for a long time… It’s a nasty truth, but those who seek to inflict harm are not fazed by gun controllers. I happen to know this from personal experience.”

And, my favorite:

“There are those in America today who have come to depend absolutely on government for their security. And when government fails they seek to rectify that failure in the form of granting government more power. So, as government has failed to control crime and violence with the means given it by the Constitution, they seek to give it more power at the expense of the Constitution. But in doing so, in their willingness to give up their arms in the name of safety, they are really giving up their protection from what has always been the chief source of despotism — government.”

he changed his mind after he saw black people with guns
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 07:23:56 PM
Alex jones outted the media for all collaborating fake news and they had his ass deleted for it.   Ofcourse you libtard asses never followed someone with a brain.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 08, 2018, 08:09:43 PM
alex jones was fake news dumbass.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 08, 2018, 11:21:17 PM
Fake news lmfao says the sheeple headed to the slaughter.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 09, 2018, 03:11:38 AM
of course americans still have a trouble time understanding what liberal means.

Well somebody does  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism)



"The examples and perspective in this article may not represent a worldwide view of the subject"

nice link retard.


lololol BOOM! Hook line and sinker ;)

I'm sure I've mentioned before that in Australia the Liberal Party is a right wing party - as usual you're much better at pasting memes than actually listening.

If you're talking about a US president surely you should be using the US definition of "liberal" .... but as usual you are convinced that your version of the truth is the only version.

( pls send a reply in 3 days when you work out what just happened )

;D
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 09, 2018, 09:43:46 AM
fake news
Fake news lmfao says the sheeple headed to the slaughter.

self owned
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 09, 2018, 03:13:15 PM
http://www.facebook.com/An0malyMusic/videos/2058952914115314/ (http://www.facebook.com/An0malyMusic/videos/2058952914115314/)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 10, 2018, 07:28:40 AM
[url]http://www.facebook.com/An0malyMusic/videos/2058952914115314/[/url] ([url]http://www.facebook.com/An0malyMusic/videos/2058952914115314/[/url])


You have brain damage from taking Info Wars supplements
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Paper_Boy on August 13, 2018, 10:25:20 PM
“But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?”

      Ideally, free market solutions are the preferred approach. Competing platforms are starting to emerge, but the old guard is fighting back, Microsoft servers threatening to shutdown GAB if they don’t censor users posts. However, for the most aggregious offenders, monopolies will require anti trust intervention for FB and Alphabet. Intervention has been the default position protecting the companies since the 90s, it’s only now extending protections to the consumer is being given serious consideration. Companies are shielded from liable under the Comm Decency Act if they are platforms or merely act as conduits. When they move beyond that realm and start acting as editors of content it becomes harder to make the argument they haven’t assumed the role of a publisher, opening themselves up to a multitude of lawsuits. You can’t have it both ways and still be considered a “platform”. Modernize the consumer Bill of Rights which already gives people the right to choose, ensuring they have a variety of content & sorting options to choose from and a right to be informed, what data is collected and how its used, a specific reason must be stated for a suspension or ban & a right to privacy, in the age of retaliation people should be able to maintain a shroud of privacy online to protect themselves, unless threatening a life. It’s concerning, since most legislation tends to curtail personal liberties, instead of extending individual freedoms. FB may eventually have to offer a migration assistant or allow competitors to access the platform with their own customized iterations, like switching cable companies that still rely upon much of the same core infrastructure.


“If a newspaper was publishing bomb-making and DIY suicide vest instructions they would be shut down.”

Not really, the supreme court has allowed instructions on how to make an atomic bomb and the Anarchist Cookbook is completely legal in the States for educational purposes.



Attributing volitility solely to misinformation, while ignoring the short sellers and private data misuse which was the issue of greater concern. It was actually a non issue when Obama utilized the same tactics incorporated by Cambridge Analytica, but for a conservative agenda.  They do want everyone using it, but thats why they try to make filters subtle and hard to detecct

“The "book burning" rhetoric is exactly the sort of uninformed rubbish that shock-jocks make their money spreading. “


     Most content consumed these days is digital, you don’t have to silence a voice, just make their message scarce and drown it out with amplified competing propaganda to tip an election. This has virtually the same effect of a book burning by keeping just enough of the population dumbed down with trivial issues, like the Kardashians, most people don’t have the time to or energy to deeply delve into things. You’re focusing on the most extreme example while ignoring the myriad of other examples already provided that could hardly be construed as “misinformation”. Youtube is already adding “fact checks” to videos that question climate change. Rome had a similarly detached & cosmopolitan attitude before it’s fall. These issues are hard for you to relate to since you’ve never had Free Speech, just empty promises from the Magna Carta, you probably cheered Tommy Robinson being locked up and Laura Southern being denied entry to the UK while Khan lets in all his terrorist buddies in. 15 acid attacks a week in the UK have become the new norm and nobody is allowed to speak out against the root cause which is Muslim Extremism. Didn’t mean to startle anyone, continue sipping your tea kind sir like nothing is wrong with this trajectory.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 14, 2018, 03:26:58 AM
“If a newspaper was publishing bomb-making and DIY suicide vest instructions they would be shut down.”

Not really, the supreme court has allowed instructions on how to make an atomic bomb and the Anarchist Cookbook is completely legal in the States for educational purposes.

IDK but I'm guessing this was a pre-9/11 decision..... go ahead - google "how to make a suicide vest" and a few other terrorist type things, follow the links, bookmark the pages, buy some bulk fertilizer and see what happens. I dare you ;)

But all joking aside, if you compiled a list of instructions from those sites and tried to get it published, no publisher would touch it. They will self censor. The US courts may or may not uphold your right to freedom of speech if you paid to produce this book out of your own pocket, but I seriously doubt any commercial publisher would do it.

--> This is what has happened if you consider FB to be a publisher producing content from contributors. They are a private company and under no obligation to publish anything if they don't want to.

Regardless of freedom of speech rulings, these days if some publisher started openly producing terrorist material in the US I'm pretty sure they would get a patriot act enema in fairly short order.

nobody is allowed to speak out against the root cause which is Muslim Extremism.

LOL.... havn't really noticed a lack of people speaking about that, however freedom of religion is one of those rights in the US constitution.

Unfortunately there is virtually no definition of what a religion actually is or isn't. Hence you can have ludicrous garbage like scientology or whatever declaring itself as a religion and nobody can do anything about it.

In the US anybody can start their own church and declare themselves a religious organisation just by filling out a few forms.

-- edit --

The point here is that because religion is expressly protected there can't be any regulation on the content of religious 'belief'. This is a problematic loop-hole. The fix would be to ban illegal teachings in religious texts, but this would also require the bible to have any illegal suggestions edited out of it. Quite obviously the powers-that-be within the church would never allow this to happen.

--  --

Religious extremism is aweful. Dumbass crack-pots that use thousand year old war rhetoric to justify their murder need to be lined up and shot, regardless of which text it comes from. Also rich, power-hungry assholes who do the same thing and then blame it on religious crack-pots to cover their tracks need the same treatment.



.... and again, this:

The Nazis burned ALL books except for their own published version of the truth ........./......... If FB, or anyone else was shutting down ALL media from a given section of politics that would be a concern, but they will never do that.

   ... is why the book-burning analogy doesn't hold up.

Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 14, 2018, 07:06:19 AM
In the US anybody can start their own church and declare themselves a religious organisation just by filling out a few forms.

seen this happen here ...hope they dont genital mutilate thier children.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 14, 2018, 07:14:14 AM
You’re focusing on the most extreme example while ignoring the myriad of other examples.

Yes I am deliberately using an extreme example to illustrate the point. I agree that mostly things fall into grey areas where judgement calls must be made. The merits of any individual judjement call should be debated seperately to the overall concept of whether or not a media organization should self-censor extremist material, which is what I have been mostly addressing.

Youtube is already adding “fact checks” to videos that question climate change.

I don't know what the relevance of this to the current debate is. I'm guessing from the flavor of your writing that you don't think industrialization has had any effect on the atmosphere or environment. As this topic is a scientific one then "fact checking" is very appropriate.

The entire scientific method is about fact checking. That's how it works. You come up with a theory. Do scientific tests &/or observations to prove your theory and then publish you findings.

At that point and forever after the entire rest of the scientific world has the opportunity to test it out for themselves and fact check your work .... and they do. There is massive competition for competing theories and scientists are desperately trying to prove each other wrong to get better research money and continue their work.

If there was ANY actual real scientific basis for disproving climate change, someone would have published it and immediately got MEGA$$$ in research grants from all the oil companies etc. Their grandchildren would be set for life..... and BTW I personally would be very happy to see it, seriously what a relief.

There are a handfull of 'scientists' who are willing to pretend there is some basis for denial to do media PR work for oil companies, but that is about half a dozen nobodies vs the entire rest of the world.

Sorry but science is pretty much "fake news"-proof. Occasionally people do try to fudge their results to get research money, sometimes it works for a little while, but in the end they always get found out, because results don't lie.

So fact-check away. If you can find some actual scientific proof against climate change you can get $100M bucks in research grants tomorrow. Give it a crack!.... but I would reccommend not starting your research with 'infowars' material lol.


Rome had a similarly detached & cosmopolitan attitude before it’s fall.

Yes, the rise and fall of human civilizations is interesting, although this seems more to be a pro-regulation argument, no? Certianly the current civilization is by far the biggest in history and is quite possibly heading for the biggest fall yet. I have myself also considered the current trend towards hedonism and the mainstreaming of amoral behavior in relation to the path the Roman empire took .... ironically the Italian parliament is a good place to look for examples of this lol. Certainly there is enough anecdotal evidence to consider that we could possibly be heading down the same path.

The scary bit is that usually a civilization falls when it becomes weak and outside forces then smash it up and take away the spoils. What is "outside" our western civilization? "Muslim extremists!" they all cry... pfff... bunch of hill-billies. Guess again. Hint: It starts with a 'C'.

Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 14, 2018, 09:25:57 AM
just make their message scarce and drown it out with amplified competing propaganda to tip an election. This has virtually the same effect of a book burning by keeping just enough of the population dumbed down with trivial issues

It is an interesting problem that now we all have so many "news" sources to choose from that we can all only listen to the news we choose to believe.

Many people (including myself) would consider the infowars thing to be the very definition of fabricated garbage designed to keep stupid people looking the wrong direction.

... and yet I meet people who seem to otherwise be of at least average intelligence who really believe that infowars is factual and that everyone else is telling a bunch of lies.

It is just more proof that people will believe what they want to believe and that it is easy to convince humans of almost anything if you use some simple behavioural science.

Have one or two really LOUD people repeating the message over and over, AND then (and this is very important) have a couple of other random and ostensibly independant 'sources' provide the same message. Like some guy on FB or some random twitter person, and your friend at work who follows the same people.

Humans are extremely social creatures. We are hard-wired to be sceptical of new ideas but also to believe things are true once we have heard them from a few independent sources... ( or what our brains categorize as independent and reliable sources anyway).

So this becomes very easy to manipulate. These days there are PR marketing companies working on all sides of any high-profile debate manufacturing enough of this stuff to convince many people of just about anything... so it comes down to what you chose to listen to..... and the massive availability of media means that anyone can only listen to the side of the debate they want to believe and never even hear the other side.

... perhaps too much diversity is almost as dangerous as a complete monopoly? It's an interesting issue as it has no real historical precedent.

Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 14, 2018, 10:04:51 AM
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Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 14, 2018, 11:19:58 AM
In the US anybody can start their own church and declare themselves a religious organisation just by filling out a few forms.

Yo you just gave me the greatest idea for pranks on YouTube.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 14, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
Yea like some dipshit that believes in Marx and a faggot with a gay seal picture really know what they are talking about in life.   Go suck a dick dumbass losers
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 14, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
Lambchops so because a bunch of news outlets like CNN, msnnbc etc... they all spout the same news narrative so that means that everything they are saying is true?   You're a special kind of dumb fuck if you think that those news outlets are telling you the truth, and something like info wars is just conspiracies.    You do know that websites like snopes etc lie as well.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 14, 2018, 01:40:07 PM
cnn and msnbc obviously totally suck ass.  that's corporate news, at this moment programmed to talk about russia 24/7 because thats one issue that doesnt threaten any of the fatcats who own the network at all and can still galvanize idiot dems.  So just play that stuff round the clock, the democratic party likes it too because it doesnt turn off any potential donors.  and corporate news isnt ever gonna go too hard against what the state department or the rich peolpe want

doesnt mean alex jones isnt a total crackpot who makes up dangerous bullshit about false flags and fake pedo rings that a bunch of alienated dipshits actually believe.  and i mean pedo rings are out there sometimes, i mean just look at rich fuck jeffrey epstein and his lolita express (which bill clinton and trump flew on lol) or some shit thats going on in hollywood... doesnt mean you can just type ctrl-f and search the word "pizza" though and make up your own stories to fit your conspiracy into whatever you find.  That stuff is seriously dumb as shit and you get people believing it.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Sepi on August 14, 2018, 05:34:01 PM
i mean just look at rich fuck jeffrey epstein and his lolita express

goddamn this lolita sht creeps me the f out.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 15, 2018, 12:30:37 AM
Lambchops so because a bunch of news outlets like CNN, msnnbc etc... they all spout the same news narrative so that means that everything they are saying is true?   You're a special kind of dumb fuck if you think that those news outlets are telling you the truth, and something like info wars is just conspiracies.    You do know that websites like snopes etc lie as well.

Excellent work Van, now you're getting right to the heart of the matter.

No. I don't assume that any media outlet is telling the truth, or even any person for that matter.

... and no I don't live in the same media sewage pond that you do (we have our own lol). I don't know who 'snopes' is. I see only occasional excerpts from the likes of CNN and NBC, and I only really know about 'infowars' because of this thread, although I had heard the name.

For mainstream media, I think most of them will report 'facts' most of the time, but they will also choose not to report some facts, while choosing to push others beyond their merits. That is how the people who own and control the media, control the mainstream narrative.

When I notice any source, be it a person or a media company, choosing to put a great deal of emphasis on one side of a story and barely even mentioning the other side, I ask myself why. If it's a topic that interests me I will actually do a bit of research to see what other information is out there. I am well aware that mainstream sources can be very misleading.

They will manipulate the focus and push their own agendas, as humans do, but for the most part, I don't think the mainstream media actually report things they know to be false, as facts. That sort of thing is too easy to check and the people working in that industry have to at least keep up an appearance of being reliable. Far more relevant is what they don't report.

The other side of the coin is the type of media that blatantly tells any story they want and doesn't even care if its true or not. Like the oldschool tabloid papers that would run headlines about alien abductions, haunted houses, bigfoot sightings, and whatever else they (or anyone else) could dream up.

Even if you personally believe in aliens &/or ghosts &/or bigfoot, most people would agree that these type of media don't really do a lot of fact-checking before they run a story. They just find one crazy old cat lady who says, "I woke up one night and the power was out and Mittens' eyes were glowing red and he hissed at me" then they run DEMONIC CAT TERRORIZES SMALL TOWN as a headline. Sometimes they even invent the entire story, cat-lady and all.

Nobody bothers fact-checking these types of stories, or pointing the finger at these types of publications and saying "they're unreliable", because everyone just knows it and what would be the point? The people who work there know that they're never going to win a Pulitzer Prize (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize) and nobody really cares what they say because nobody takes them seriously anyway so they just do whatever.

In itself, the headline "Tabloid News Source Invents A Story" is not news, because they have been doing the same thing every week for years and everyone knows, so duh, who cares? BUT the headline "CNN Reporter Invents A Story" is news, and people would notice and their rival mainstream media companies would run it.

That's not to say they don't manipulate the narrative and selectively report things and push their own agendas all the time, but this is a very different thing to out-and-out inventing or "faking" a false story.

It's like the Lauer/Weinstien etc. stuff that I have even heard about on the other side of the planet. It's big news because they are big media figures. You don't see the headline "Pimp Slaps Ho Around On Street Corner" because it's not really news (deplorable as this may be).


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So when the internet/youtube etc. suddenly provided a media platform where anybody could produce their own media for free there was an explosion of all sorts of people telling all sorts of stories. There is all manner of good/bad/crazy/brilliant/weird/stupid stuff out there, almost totally unregulated.

But recently, all sorts of people in politics, marketing and industry have realized that they can use this platform to tell any story they want, without having to be accountable for it. They don't even need to do it themselves, just find someone who speaks their brand of politics then do a deal with them and get them to push their agenda.

Then they just get that person some notoriety by doing a few stories about them in the mainstream media (cnn/fox/whoever) and leading people to this secondary source (infowars is one example). Then that person can just wholesale make up any complete rubbish that they want and use blatantly false tactics, fear mongering and whatever else while the people backing them can pretend they had nothing to do with it.

This stuff has slipped under the radar for a while because the mainstream is accustomed to ignoring the tabloids and just assumed that nobody worth worrying about would pay any attention. Recently they have woken up with a start and realized holy crap people are actually believing that shit! This is a seriously disturbing trend.

IMO the presidential election was the thing that really tipped the scales. In the beginning, nobody took Trump seriously because they didn't believe that anyone would fall for such blatant conman tactics. Then he got elected, and started talking complete rubbish and people started reporting it, expecting something to happen. Trump just says "that's all fake news" even when whatever he did is totally on the record, he just denies it anyway and nobody cares.

Like when he announced that there were massive crowds of people at his inauguration and anyone can see the footage and there's hardly anyone there. He just says "was too" with a straight face and people just shrug their shoulders. It seems that many of his supporters know he does this but think he is somehow bullshitting for America, so they like it. Sadly "President Tells Another Lie" is no longer news. People have stopped bothering report it.

This made a lot of people sit up and take notice and say OMG you mean we can actually just make stuff up and that is patently, blatantly, provably false and/or illogical but people will still not care as long as we keep saying it over and over? Wow! Well damn, let's start doing that then... the rise of then 'infowars' thing and others like it a appear to be a direct result of this tactic.

What we are seeing now is the push back against this type of mis-information. Nixon resigned to avoid being impeached after he got caught out lying, now Trump talks complete rubbish all the time and nobody cares. Whether or not the infowars guy or the current president are talking your brand of politics, if you really think about it you should agree that these types of tactics are bad.

If for no other reason, it's making the entire rest of the work think, "OMG how fucking stupid are Americans?". Have some self-respect.

Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 15, 2018, 03:39:58 AM
cnn and msnbc obviously totally suck ass.  that's corporate news, at this moment programmed to talk about russia 24/7 because thats one issue that doesnt threaten any of the fatcats who own the network at all and can still galvanize idiot dems.  So just play that stuff round the clock, the democratic party likes it too because it doesnt turn off any potential donors.  and corporate news isnt ever gonna go too hard against what the state department or the rich peolpe want

doesnt mean alex jones isnt a total crackpot who makes up dangerous bullshit about false flags and fake pedo rings that a bunch of alienated dipshits actually believe.  and i mean pedo rings are out there sometimes, i mean just look at rich fuck jeffrey epstein and his lolita express (which bill clinton and trump flew on lol) or some shit thats going on in hollywood... doesnt mean you can just type ctrl-f and search the word "pizza" though and make up your own stories to fit your conspiracy into whatever you find.  That stuff is seriously dumb as shit and you get people believing it.

Haha I'm not surprised that the mainstream media are running with the Russia thing. It's a 2-pronged win/win for them.

1) It's linked to the whole Russian FB trolls issue so it undermines the credability of FB / internet based news sources ..... who are in may ways the mainstram media's biggest competition and greatest threat.

2) Trump has been calling them liars every time they say something he doesn't like. This story is not only proof of him lying, it's proof of him lying about using the dirty tricks that he accuses everyone else of using.

So I'm not at all surprised that they are pushing this story, because it suits their agenda. If, as you say (and I believe) mainstream is pushing this 24/7 then it seems to be an excellent example of them controlling the narrative and trying to influence public opinion. I still doubt very much that any of the individual things they are reporting are actually deliberate lies.


BTW: Yes quite obviously I don't like Trump, but no, that doesn't mean I am whatever liberal stereotype the right wing pseudo-media would have you believe. For the record I also don't like Hillary Clinton, never have. I think she's a slick figurehead for far too many old-money interests and has got where she is purely by trading political favors. Had she ever got into the office I think she would have pushed through a whole bunch of legislation for all sorts of shadowy types that she "owed one" to. This is normal in politics to some extent, but IMO few people were into that game further than Hillary.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 07:49:25 AM
“But isn't this the only way to prevent the companies that own those digital platforms from doing the exact thing you're complaining about here?”

      Ideally, free market solutions are the preferred approach. Competing platforms are starting to emerge, but the old guard is fighting back, Microsoft servers threatening to shutdown GAB if they don’t censor users posts. However, for the most aggregious offenders, monopolies will require anti trust intervention for FB and Alphabet. Intervention has been the default position protecting the companies since the 90s, it’s only now extending protections to the consumer is being given serious consideration. Companies are shielded from liable under the Comm Decency Act if they are platforms or merely act as conduits. When they move beyond that realm and start acting as editors of content it becomes harder to make the argument they haven’t assumed the role of a publisher, opening themselves up to a multitude of lawsuits. You can’t have it both ways and still be considered a “platform”. Modernize the consumer Bill of Rights which already gives people the right to choose, ensuring they have a variety of content & sorting options to choose from and a right to be informed, what data is collected and how its used, a specific reason must be stated for a suspension or ban & a right to privacy, in the age of retaliation people should be able to maintain a shroud of privacy online to protect themselves, unless threatening a life. It’s concerning, since most legislation tends to curtail personal liberties, instead of extending individual freedoms. FB may eventually have to offer a migration assistant or allow competitors to access the platform with their own customized iterations, like switching cable companies that still rely upon much of the same core infrastructure.


“If a newspaper was publishing bomb-making and DIY suicide vest instructions they would be shut down.”

Not really, the supreme court has allowed instructions on how to make an atomic bomb and the Anarchist Cookbook is completely legal in the States for educational purposes.



Attributing volitility solely to misinformation, while ignoring the short sellers and private data misuse which was the issue of greater concern. It was actually a non issue when Obama utilized the same tactics incorporated by Cambridge Analytica, but for a conservative agenda.  They do want everyone using it, but thats why they try to make filters subtle and hard to detecct

“The "book burning" rhetoric is exactly the sort of uninformed rubbish that shock-jocks make their money spreading. “


     Most content consumed these days is digital, you don’t have to silence a voice, just make their message scarce and drown it out with amplified competing propaganda to tip an election. This has virtually the same effect of a book burning by keeping just enough of the population dumbed down with trivial issues, like the Kardashians, most people don’t have the time to or energy to deeply delve into things. You’re focusing on the most extreme example while ignoring the myriad of other examples already provided that could hardly be construed as “misinformation”. Youtube is already adding “fact checks” to videos that question climate change. Rome had a similarly detached & cosmopolitan attitude before it’s fall. These issues are hard for you to relate to since you’ve never had Free Speech, just empty promises from the Magna Carta, you probably cheered Tommy Robinson being locked up and Laura Southern being denied entry to the UK while Khan lets in all his terrorist buddies in. 15 acid attacks a week in the UK have become the new norm and nobody is allowed to speak out against the root cause which is Muslim Extremism. Didn’t mean to startle anyone, continue sipping your tea kind sir like nothing is wrong with this trajectory.

Shut the FUCK up you stupid fucking bitch ahahahahaha
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 07:50:32 AM
Lol that PB knows all the latest Lauren Southern and Tommy Robinson drama. BTW they should both be put in a gas chamber along with you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 15, 2018, 09:07:27 AM
reminder PB likes to claim he has a very high IQ
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 15, 2018, 11:52:43 AM
Tommy Robinson and Lauren Southern are amazing individuals.   Who the fuck is this cum guzzling faggot?  You guys really need to start banning random dumb fucks that know nothing about life.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 12:10:02 PM
Lolololololopploplolol

(https://i.imgur.com/a8o9ymhr.jpg)

Sorry did I trigger you snowflake???  :'(
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 12:11:55 PM
Who the fuck is this cum guzzling faggot? 

i wonder that to. Who is cumsavor lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 12:17:15 PM
Who the fuck is this cum guzzling faggot? 

i wonder that to. Who is cumsavor lol

A person who is smarter, cooler, more successful, and makes better posts than you.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 12:20:47 PM
Tommy Robinson is a gay pedophile. Laura Southern is a stupid ugly white basic bitch that gets loser nazis to send her money because nobody will fuck them. Lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 15, 2018, 12:28:15 PM
cnn and msnbc obviously totally suck ass.  that's corporate news, at this moment programmed to talk about russia 24/7 because thats one issue that doesnt threaten any of the fatcats who own the network at all and can still galvanize idiot dems.  So just play that stuff round the clock, the democratic party likes it too because it doesnt turn off any potential donors.  and corporate news isnt ever gonna go too hard against what the state department or the rich peolpe want

doesnt mean alex jones isnt a total crackpot who makes up dangerous bullshit about false flags and fake pedo rings that a bunch of alienated dipshits actually believe.  and i mean pedo rings are out there sometimes, i mean just look at rich fuck jeffrey epstein and his lolita express (which bill clinton and trump flew on lol) or some shit thats going on in hollywood... doesnt mean you can just type ctrl-f and search the word "pizza" though and make up your own stories to fit your conspiracy into whatever you find.  That stuff is seriously dumb as shit and you get people believing it.

Haha I'm not surprised that the mainstream media are running with the Russia thing. It's a 2-pronged win/win for them.

1) It's linked to the whole Russian FB trolls issue so it undermines the credability of FB / internet based news sources ..... who are in may ways the mainstram media's biggest competition and greatest threat.

2) Trump has been calling them liars every time they say something he doesn't like. This story is not only proof of him lying, it's proof of him lying about using the dirty tricks that he accuses everyone else of using.

So I'm not at all surprised that they are pushing this story, because it suits their agenda. If, as you say (and I believe) mainstream is pushing this 24/7 then it seems to be an excellent example of them controlling the narrative and trying to influence public opinion. I still doubt very much that any of the individual things they are reporting are actually deliberate lies.


BTW: Yes quite obviously I don't like Trump, but no, that doesn't mean I am whatever liberal stereotype the right wing pseudo-media would have you believe. For the record I also don't like Hillary Clinton, never have. I think she's a slick figurehead for far too many old-money interests and has got where she is purely by trading political favors. Had she ever got into the office I think she would have pushed through a whole bunch of legislation for all sorts of shadowy types that she "owed one" to. This is normal in politics to some extent, but IMO few people were into that game further than Hillary.
It is literally the only thing MSNBC talks about anymore.  They have spent 90%+ of their news programming airtime talking about Russia for the better part of 2 years.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 15, 2018, 12:29:38 PM
lol if youre a pleasant looking white woman you can dye your hair blonde and then just make as much of a show as possible of being a gun toting racist and youll get a huge fanbase and have a career out of it... Seems win
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 15, 2018, 12:34:57 PM
this one woman like kaya jones i think put up some video showing off her tits in a bikini and was like "triggered, libs???" and it got 10,000 likes but then she had  to apologize to all her christian followers, who she had triggered.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 12:37:12 PM
You don't even need to be white tbh
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Ywfn on August 15, 2018, 12:44:09 PM
Shut the FUCK up you stupid fucking bitch ahahahahaha

I don't get it. PB clearly supports politicians that openly advocate doing pretty much the exact opposite of everything PB is ranting about, then somehow, he twists it around in to a narrative about political correctness.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 01:25:54 PM
A person who is smarter, cooler, more successful, and makes better posts than you.

Successful people don’t wish for communism.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Shut the FUCK up you stupid fucking bitch ahahahahaha

I don't get it. PB clearly supports politicians that openly advocate doing pretty much the exact opposite of everything PB is ranting about, then somehow, he twists it around in to a narrative about political correctness.

What he claims to care about is an after the fact rationalization for a politics solely concerned with the primacy of white identity in America. This is true of almost all American conservatives except some of the elite class
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 01:33:47 PM
A person who is smarter, cooler, more successful, and makes better posts than you.

Successful people don’t wish for communism.

I do. Argument destroyed, by logic
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 01:40:57 PM
I do. Argument destroyed, by logic

Keep telling yourself that. Now that I think about it you identifying as trans probably makes you mentally handicapped.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 01:45:40 PM
I do. Argument destroyed, by logic

Keep telling yourself that. Now that I think about it you identifying as trans probably makes you mentally handicapped.

It makes me smart
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 01:47:15 PM
It makes me smart

Yes your very smart and successful. Are you also a polar bear?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 01:54:15 PM
It makes me smart

Yes your very smart and successful. Are you also a polar bear?

Thank you for admitting I am right. No, I am not.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 01:56:29 PM
It makes me smart

Yes your very smart and successful. Are you also a polar bear?

Thank you for admitting I am right. No, I am not.


Yes man. Everything you post is true and accurate like CNN.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 02:01:08 PM
It makes me smart

Yes your very smart and successful. Are you also a polar bear?

Thank you for admitting I am right. No, I am not.


Yes man. Everything you post is true and accurate like CNN.

It is much more true and accurate than CNN.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 02:02:16 PM
Tora is a Muslim who loves Israel rofl
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 02:07:03 PM
Tora is a Muslim who loves Israel rofl

Find a quote where I said “I love Israel.”

It is much more true and accurate than CNN.

Most people would agree your as unbiased and correct as CNN. Be proud CNN is a great news network that only reports facts from an unbiased vantage point. Much like yourself.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 02:13:44 PM
Tora is a Muslim who loves Israel rofl

Find a quote where I said “I love Israel.”

It is much more true and accurate than CNN.

Most people would agree your as unbiased and correct as CNN. Be proud CNN is a great news network that only reports facts from an unbiased vantage point. Much like yourself.


No CNN is not actually a trustworthy source, I'm much more truthful. Funny you love CNN so much tho hahahahaha dumbass
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 02:14:18 PM
CNN is a great news network that only reports facts from an unbiased vantage point.

Lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 02:35:58 PM
No CNN is not actually a trustworthy source, I'm much more truthful. Funny you love CNN so much tho hahahahaha dumbass

Yeah man I love CNN just like ur posts.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 02:37:13 PM
CNN is a great news network that only reports facts from an unbiased vantage point.

Lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 03:10:05 PM
A person who is smarter, cooler, more successful, and makes better posts than you.

Successful people don’t wish for communism.

I do. Argument destroyed, by logic
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 15, 2018, 03:15:27 PM
This is what Tora said when Israel murdered 100 palestinian protesters in cold blood
Palestinians that riot and act like crazed animals aren't helping their cause. It just gives the Israeli's more propaganda to throw at the masses. 
The Palestinians aren’t doing themselves any favors by burning tires and throwing rocks at Israeli soliders. It’s like taking a knife to a gun fight.
The Palestinians aren’t helping their cause rioting on the border. All it’s done is cause 60 people to be killed and 2700 to be injured.

He's a fifth column!!!
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 15, 2018, 03:16:51 PM

So hilarious
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
This is what Tora said when Israel murdered 100 palestinian protesters in cold blood
Palestinians that riot and act like crazed animals aren't helping their cause. It just gives the Israeli's more propaganda to throw at the masses. 
The Palestinians aren’t doing themselves any favors by burning tires and throwing rocks at Israeli soliders. It’s like taking a knife to a gun fight.
The Palestinians aren’t helping their cause rioting on the border. All it’s done is cause 60 people to be killed and 2700 to be injured.

He's a fifth column!!!

And? Never said I loved israel.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 03:49:16 PM
You did say this tho

CNN is a great news network that only reports facts from an unbiased vantage point.

Lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 03:59:24 PM
^^Anyone that clicks that quote can see clearly I was trolling. Much like you are now.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
"CNN is a great news network" - ToRa
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 04:33:45 PM
^^least my name isn’t “cumsavor” lmao
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 04:37:36 PM
^^least my name isn’t “cumsavor” lmao

Haha this dumb Israel loving bitch won't even deny he thinks CNN is a great news network anymore. Owned
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
^^lol loser. U really suck at life lmao.
Know how I know you have no real job? It’s because any real job would fire you for spouting how isreal is a terror state.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 04:44:46 PM
^^lol loser. U really suck at life lmao.

You're the CNN fan and you admitted it ahahahahhaha
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 04:46:19 PM
^^tell us all mr cum what do u do for a living?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
^^tell us all mr cum what do u do for a living?

Right now I'm getting paid to pwn your dumb CNN watching ass while you get triggered and cry about it lll
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 05:08:22 PM
^^tell us all mr cum what do u do for a living?
Anwser.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 15, 2018, 06:52:08 PM
Tommy Robinson and Lauren Southern are amazing individuals. 


self-owned
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 15, 2018, 06:55:37 PM
lol if youre a pleasant looking white woman you can dye your hair blonde and then just make as much of a show as possible of being a gun toting racist and youll get a huge fanbase and have a career out of it... Seems win


Laura Southern thinks it's amazing that Orania, a mostly white town in South Africa has zero crime. Of course she insulates that low crime rate is due to the small amount of black people,  not because it's  a tiny ass town of less than 1000 people.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 15, 2018, 06:59:33 PM
A person who is smarter, cooler, more successful, and makes better posts than you.

Successful people don’t wish for communism.

you're a low intelligent, low talent bitch. anyone who doesn't see capitalism for the cancer it is, and communism as the solution, is a dumb bitch.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 15, 2018, 08:38:00 PM
^^tell us all mr cum what do u do for a living?
Anwser.

Lol make me you dumbass broke CNN watching bitch
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 09:31:37 PM
Lol make me you dumbass broke CNN watching bitch

You won’t answer because you have no job. Your a loser who suffers from extreme depression and mental illness.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 15, 2018, 09:52:39 PM
FCC shuts down Alex Jones’ pirate flagship radio station

this dumbfuck keeps getting owned lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 15, 2018, 10:56:41 PM
^^ You think Rush Limbaugh should be censored too? Just wondering he kinda nuts too...
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Ywfn on August 15, 2018, 11:19:07 PM
Shut the FUCK up you stupid fucking bitch ahahahahaha

I don't get it. PB clearly supports politicians that openly advocate doing pretty much the exact opposite of everything PB is ranting about, then somehow, he twists it around in to a narrative about political correctness.

What he claims to care about is an after the fact rationalization for a politics solely concerned with the primacy of white identity in America. This is true of almost all American conservatives except some of the elite class
Just to be clear.  It was a rhetorical question.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 16, 2018, 07:56:04 AM
Lol make me you dumbass broke CNN watching bitch

You won’t answer because you have no job. Your a loser who suffers from extreme depression and mental illness.

I won't answer because you are a CNN watching bitch lol
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 16, 2018, 07:56:20 AM
^^ You think Rush Limbaugh should be censored too? Just wondering he kinda nuts too...

Yes, he should be imprisoned.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 11:57:00 AM
That girl looks fuckin gorgeous blid.  Something you will never get in your pathetic life.  And delete that architect bullshit you’re no legend to the game ur irrelevant scrub fuck that was never good and can’t admin worth shit either.  Ducking nobody lmfao
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 11:58:56 AM
Blid you should give up admin and never log the fuck on again you stupid ass bigger.  You obviously suck dick or get fucked in the ass.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 16, 2018, 12:05:58 PM
Lmfao

(https://i.imgur.com/lcvTGCY.jpg)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
That girl looks fuckin gorgeous blid.  Something you will never get in your pathetic life.  And delete that architect bullshit you’re no legend to the game ur irrelevant scrub fuck that was never good and can’t admin worth shit either.  Ducking nobody lmfao
Politics for morons these days basically amounts to aggressively accusing everyone else of being triggered.  It's funny because it's so predictable and the people that do this or get a kick out of it are all very stupid.  In this case obviously no liberal cares about a bikini but she did trigger her own conservative Christian allies.

Also, I am a War2 legend from way back in the day. They called me the Architect because of my inventive strategies and builds. You clearly don't know your War2 history.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 16, 2018, 12:50:52 PM
mmm that girl has videos of not wanting to be married or have kids...and a conservative.."she'll change her mind someday"
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 16, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
Also, I am a War2 legend from way back in the day. They called me the Architect because of my inventive strategies and builds. You clearly don't know your War2 history.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:23:48 PM by eyyy i

Can you give an example of a build/strategy that you invented and is still used today?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
Today everyone plays the same strategy every game, so that's a tall order, but I was one of the first to regularize walling in with a catapult, for instance.  Back in the day, everyone else was still doing it with towers.  Of course, I did it with my 17-peon power, not after applying some token grunt pressure, but just the same... That's just one example of hundreds of carefully plotted builds, that back in the days before shared vision, would shock and confuse opponents, who would beg to know what I'd done and never be able to find out.  Dragon rushes, two halling on medium resources, making my first hall at 3 and going straight to ogres, gosh, there's so many.  That's why most people you ask will say I was one of the most famous and memorable players on Heat of all time, and why most people there addressed me as "Architect" instead of as blid, like "Hey architect what's up" and the like.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 01:55:08 PM
Ever heard of the 1 farm, 5 grunt rush on low resources?  Heh, probably not...
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 01:56:10 PM
Blid absolutely no one called you that.  You fucking blow at this game, always did.   And youre a fucking loser irl faggot.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 01:57:01 PM
Yea cause no one is stupid enough to do that shit you fuckin retarded idiot.  Blid how bout you go play on the freeway you pathetic pile of shit.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 01:58:02 PM
Blid absolutely no one called you that.  You fucking blow at this game, always did.   And youre a fucking loser irl faggot.
Then why does it say that on the plaque?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 01:58:35 PM
You didnt invent any of that shit you fucking retard.   That shit was being done on kali 95 way before your irrelevant ass even came around.   Go play on the freeway dipshit.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
Cause your cum guzzling mother made it for you.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 02:00:24 PM
You didnt invent any of that shit you fucking retard.   That shit was being done on kali 95 way before your irrelevant ass even came around.   Go play on the freeway dipshit.
I invented all of it.  That's why everyone called me, "The Architect."
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
There also was no "before."  I bought the game on release, and joined Kali before probably anyone else here except Ywfn.  So, um, sorry!  ;D
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 16, 2018, 02:38:09 PM
YWFN had a early serial number, thats all he was ever known for.  He blew in kali 95 and you didnt invent shit faggot i was around and youre a fuckin nobody in RU and the history of war2.  You will go down as a garbage ass admin and a dick in your ass being the liberal faggot you are.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 16, 2018, 02:40:17 PM
the lowest number on kali was me serial #1 jay was #3.. lol a little trick back in my kali days of 2005.

 :o beer 30 already  :D
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 16, 2018, 02:47:35 PM
Ever heard of the 1 farm, 5 grunt rush on low resources?  Heh, probably not...

Explain?
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 16, 2018, 03:01:25 PM
sounds like he killed a peon..going all or nothing with 5
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 16, 2018, 03:02:11 PM
I invented all of it.  That's why everyone called me, "The Architect."

I wasn’t around much pre RU so im not going to argue what was and wasn’t invented by you. But don’t you think it’s a bit of a stretch to say “I invented walling in with a cat.”
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 03:02:53 PM
You have to follow the blueprint to the t for it to work.  Barracks with 5 peons and 1 farm, and right as barracks finishes, you finish killing one of your own peons, and start the first grunt.  And so on.   >:D  Your astonished and confounded opponent will demand to know how you have all these grunts so soon, but as there were no replays or shared vision at the time, they would never find out!  Hah!   >:D  Pretty dang hard to stop on small maps.

I invented all of it.  That's why everyone called me, "The Architect."

I wasn’t around much pre RU so im not going to argue what was and wasn’t invented by you. But don’t you think it’s a bit of a stretch to say “I invented walling in with a cat.”
I said "one of the first to regularize," and said that at the time most people were still using towers.  That's entirely true.  People preferred cts for a very long time.  Interestingly things seemed to sort of evolve from ct to gt before people mostly moved on to catapults.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on August 16, 2018, 03:11:37 PM
Would have to bank like 1200 -1500 before killing peons if it’s low. Im doubtful that would work in todays game.
But I will give it a try this weekend.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 03:29:13 PM
It works out if you manage the resources right, which is one of the things I'd master on single player before taking it to games.  It worked better back then than it does now, because back then lag sucked enough that people couldn't micro peons to fight back well enough.  That might also be why cts were more popular back then, all that splash damage.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 03:34:28 PM
(https://web.archive.org/web/20030814011049if_/http://www.battle.net:80/images/battle/war2/pics/nateform.gif)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 16, 2018, 07:00:01 PM
([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20030814011049if_/http://www.battle.net:80/images/battle/war2/pics/nateform.gif[/url])



spbwar.gif
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 16, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20030814011049if_/http://www.battle.net:80/images/battle/war2/pics/nateform.gif[/url])


ok, this is epic
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on August 16, 2018, 08:59:26 PM
([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20030814011049if_/http://www.battle.net:80/images/battle/war2/pics/nateform.gif[/url])


ok, this is epic


Invented by my friend {NaTe}. Before him no one had considered you could wall in a ct, without walling in your whole town.  Hehe
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Paper_Boy on August 25, 2018, 07:01:46 AM
"Invented by my friend {NaTe}. Before him no one had considered you could wall in a ct, without walling in your whole town.  Hehe"

NO possible SPB is OG Flower Tower^^


“I don't get it. PB clearly supports politicians that openly advocate doing pretty much the exact opposite of everything PB is ranting about, then somehow, he twists it around in to a narrative about political correctness.”


I do? lol , what are you talking about? The only politicians I brought up were cautionary tales demonstrating the perils of censorship. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word “opposite”, only advocacy was for free market solutions, free speech and anti trust as a last resort to ensure a free marketplace of ideas can flourish. I never took you for the kind of guy playing with out a full deck lol.



“If there was ANY actual real scientific basis for disproving climate change, someone would have published it and immediately got MEGA$$$ in research grants from all the oil companies etc. Their grandchildren would be set for life..... and BTW I personally would be very happy to see it, seriously what a relief.”



You’re stating Climate Change like it’s not a theory and already proven. You don’t start the Scientific Method trying to prove a negative, you 1st have to affirm a positive. For starters nobody can define “climate change” or distinguish it from the weather, it wasn’t long ago it was known as “global warming”. Every climate model is a vast over simplification that can’t accurately determine the attributions of every discrete variable.

As a small example to contextualize the problem, we must determine our relative position and trajectory under weather patterns that precede drastic human interference. We reside within a 400,000 year cycle that is part of a 100,000 year eccentricity cycle, between warm periods, currently our equinox cycle is winter at perihelion along the northern hemisphere. Our 40,000 year obliquity cycle or rotational procession cycles every 26,000 years along our axis. The change of obliquitey is along the  a higher range which naturally results in more extreme season. By bearing all this in mind we can try to temper expectations to a certain extent by remembering we are in warm interlude at the depth of an interglacial phase, where glacier retreat is expected. We also must bear in mind the gravitational tug of Jupiter and Saturn with result in 3 periodic shifts that elongate our elliptical orbital shifts up to 30%. Our current respite of the Holocene Epoch was about 11 thousand years ago. Thats when temperatures rose and humans agriculture really began to thrive. Surely, primitive man’s carbon footprint was the cause of this phenomenon?


The second most pressing sets of discreete and dependent variables involve a chronological inventory of temperature and atmospheric conditions and hopefully a correlation occurs that allows us to differentiate between, global conditions and cosmological conditions. For instance the co2 concentrations were 3-6 times higher in the Jurassic period than they are today and will leave the atmosphere after thousands of years. Methanes potential to warm the planet is also 20 times greater than carbon and will leave the atmosphere after 12 years according to the EPA, which would prove as a useful warning measure if drastic change was needed. There also exists a strong 600 year delayed correlation with solar activity from the sun and geological climate readings. NASA says 9 of the 10 warmest years on record have come this century, but its hard to verify the accuracy and atmospheric conditions of a farmers almanac.

Once we’ve determined how to properly weigh the variables and assign ranges and varying degrees of probability as to which effect what, we can hopefully gleem a more accurate model, then compare and apply to other planets. Then, we can plug in the main part of the equation which is the green house gas effect. We’ve now upped our c02 concentration from 270 to 400 parts per million. Solar energy is absorbed  by earths surface and through convection and radiation goes back into the atmosphere as heat. Unlike oxygen and nitrogen which easily dissipate heat, Carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor and nitrous oxide vibrate more when they absorb heat, the friction generates more heat which radiates back down to earths surface in a feed back loop. We need to continually obtain accurate readings of this mechanism by indexing the troposphere, ionosphere, atmosphere, stratosphere and earths surface to get a more detailed understanding. Another localized phenomenon is VLF radio communications which have formed an artificial space barrier which bends the solar radiation that permeates the earth. Also, it’s important to remember water vapor is the main infrared active gas in the atmosphere compared to c02.


Certain conditions can also distort the results of other phenomenon if they aren’t fully accounted for on models. For instance, there is a natural positive feedback loop of c02 that accounting for 15% more of our agricultural production since it is a plant food. Also, you look at earth at aphelion where we move slower for the long winters which aren’t counteracted as much by short summers, ice also reflects more and absorbs less sunlight. Bottom line, the people i’ve spoken with who’ve studied this think its worthy of study, but concede we can’t accurately define the parameters of the feedback loop with any high degree of certainty.


I won’t get into how this is a socialist vehicle for a wealth distribution scheme amongst nations and how other signatories of The Paris Climate Accords haven’t been in compliance in spite of their claims. Also, find it amusing most climate scientist grants are based on endorsing a preconceived conclusion even if it means falsifying past data to “prove” a theory.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Every Billionaire is a Policy Failure on August 25, 2018, 09:39:01 AM
You’re stating Climate Change like it’s not a theory and already proven.


looooooooooooooooooooool
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on August 25, 2018, 10:14:47 AM
"Invented by my friend {NaTe}. Before him no one had considered you could wall in a ct, without walling in your whole town.  Hehe"

NO possible SPB is OG Flower Tower^^


“I don't get it. PB clearly supports politicians that openly advocate doing pretty much the exact opposite of everything PB is ranting about, then somehow, he twists it around in to a narrative about political correctness.”


I do? lol , what are you talking about? The only politicians I brought up were cautionary tales demonstrating the perils of censorship. I suggest you look up the meaning of the word “opposite”, only advocacy was for free market solutions, free speech and anti trust as a last resort to ensure a free marketplace of ideas can flourish. I never took you for the kind of guy playing with out a full deck lol.



“If there was ANY actual real scientific basis for disproving climate change, someone would have published it and immediately got MEGA$$$ in research grants from all the oil companies etc. Their grandchildren would be set for life..... and BTW I personally would be very happy to see it, seriously what a relief.”



You’re stating Climate Change like it’s not a theory and already proven. You don’t start the Scientific Method trying to prove a negative, you 1st have to affirm a positive. For starters nobody can define “climate change” or distinguish it from the weather, it wasn’t long ago it was known as “global warming”. Every climate model is a vast over simplification that can’t accurately determine the attributions of every discrete variable.

As a small example to contextualize the problem, we must determine our relative position and trajectory under weather patterns that precede drastic human interference. We reside within a 400,000 year cycle that is part of a 100,000 year eccentricity cycle, between warm periods, currently our equinox cycle is winter at perihelion along the northern hemisphere. Our 40,000 year obliquity cycle or rotational procession cycles every 26,000 years along our axis. The change of obliquitey is along the  a higher range which naturally results in more extreme season. By bearing all this in mind we can try to temper expectations to a certain extent by remembering we are in warm interlude at the depth of an interglacial phase, where glacier retreat is expected. We also must bear in mind the gravitational tug of Jupiter and Saturn with result in 3 periodic shifts that elongate our elliptical orbital shifts up to 30%. Our current respite of the Holocene Epoch was about 11 thousand years ago. Thats when temperatures rose and humans agriculture really began to thrive. Surely, primitive man’s carbon footprint was the cause of this phenomenon?


The second most pressing sets of discreete and dependent variables involve a chronological inventory of temperature and atmospheric conditions and hopefully a correlation occurs that allows us to differentiate between, global conditions and cosmological conditions. For instance the co2 concentrations were 3-6 times higher in the Jurassic period than they are today and will leave the atmosphere after thousands of years. Methanes potential to warm the planet is also 20 times greater than carbon and will leave the atmosphere after 12 years according to the EPA, which would prove as a useful warning measure if drastic change was needed. There also exists a strong 600 year delayed correlation with solar activity from the sun and geological climate readings. NASA says 9 of the 10 warmest years on record have come this century, but its hard to verify the accuracy and atmospheric conditions of a farmers almanac.

Once we’ve determined how to properly weigh the variables and assign ranges and varying degrees of probability as to which effect what, we can hopefully gleem a more accurate model, then compare and apply to other planets. Then, we can plug in the main part of the equation which is the green house gas effect. We’ve now upped our c02 concentration from 270 to 400 parts per million. Solar energy is absorbed  by earths surface and through convection and radiation goes back into the atmosphere as heat. Unlike oxygen and nitrogen which easily dissipate heat, Carbon dioxide, methane, water vapor and nitrous oxide vibrate more when they absorb heat, the friction generates more heat which radiates back down to earths surface in a feed back loop. We need to continually obtain accurate readings of this mechanism by indexing the troposphere, ionosphere, atmosphere, stratosphere and earths surface to get a more detailed understanding. Another localized phenomenon is VLF radio communications which have formed an artificial space barrier which bends the solar radiation that permeates the earth. Also, it’s important to remember water vapor is the main infrared active gas in the atmosphere compared to c02.


Certain conditions can also distort the results of other phenomenon if they aren’t fully accounted for on models. For instance, there is a natural positive feedback loop of c02 that accounting for 15% more of our agricultural production since it is a plant food. Also, you look at earth at aphelion where we move slower for the long winters which aren’t counteracted as much by short summers, ice also reflects more and absorbs less sunlight. Bottom line, the people i’ve spoken with who’ve studied this think its worthy of study, but concede we can’t accurately define the parameters of the feedback loop with any high degree of certainty.


I won’t get into how this is a socialist vehicle for a wealth distribution scheme amongst nations and how other signatories of The Paris Climate Accords haven’t been in compliance in spite of their claims. Also, find it amusing most climate scientist grants are based on endorsing a preconceived conclusion even if it means falsifying past data to “prove” a theory.


You are so fucking stupid you make Tora look like a genius, shut the fuck up you loser.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: van on August 25, 2018, 01:42:32 PM
https://www.facebook.com/100010986138500/posts/617330255309840/ (https://www.facebook.com/100010986138500/posts/617330255309840/)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 25, 2018, 07:43:33 PM
not going to facebook not got the balls federal govt spy program.if u see jessu tell him we got some beer down here in te not so jesus section..dam pb has some deep thought ..fuck the jurassic you want the cretaceous for the main trex

The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. -nikola tesla pb sounds kinda smart to me well gone back to jam

omg Jupiter and Saturn with result in 3 periodic shifts that elongate our elliptical orbital shifts up to 30% yes they can tug shit jupiter has less gas to becom a dwarf star but if it had mor would be a 2nd sun..jupiter+ saturn +neptune+urnaus thast some heavy weigts they can change these little minuscale rocky planets.. pb is a space mind really helping out by trolling
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 25, 2018, 09:40:00 PM
“I would rather be rich affluent and greedy and go to hell when I die, than live in poverty on this earth.” lol al u just named everyone in earth well i gotta go myself remember gl hf..if your from memphis tn take your time to read about capone the most interesting story youll here besides the bell witch here
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 25, 2018, 11:35:54 PM
Also, find it amusing most climate scientist grants are based on endorsing a preconceived conclusion even if it means falsifying past data to “prove” a theory.


oooh lordy I do love it when the clueless parrot nonsensical garbage they found on the internet because it sounds "sciency" so they believe it.



Question:

Where is all the carbon we are releasing coming from? How did it get there?

It's coming from "fossil fuels". They are called "fossil" because thats what they literally are. Oil is literally the composted remains of dead bodies. If you got a bunch of dead animals and plants and sealed them up for a million years they would turn into oil/coal/gas. We are carbon based life.

Plants metabolize co2 into oxygen and use the carbon to build themselves. This is why fertilizers don't need to contain carbon (yes some comes from mineral sources also, but that's not the current issue). Animals eat plants to get their carbon, or they eat other animals that eat plants.

Slowly, over hundreds of millions of years, the carbon, extracted from the atmosphere by plants and absorbed by animals got trapped within the earth. Now in the space of a couple of hundred years we are going to suck the entire lot out of the earth and pump it back into the atmosphere, but that's not going to fuck things up right?

All life on earth now has evolved as the conditions changed. The plants and animals that existed in prehisoric times and did that job no longer exist. We cant live in prehistoric atmosphere. It's toxic. Duh!


(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4327.0;attach=2534)


Here's a couple of graphs of atmospheric CO2 levels.

First look at the one on the left, note the 6 different sources and margin for error clearly defined ( you idiot lol ). It shows a period of around 600 Million years. There is no "cycle" - unless you think the fact that the line is a bit wiggly is a cycle.

If you look at the second graph you can see normal ice age cycles etc. Note it is displayed in THOUSANDS of years, not MILLIONS. It accounts for the little red circle I have put on the first graph. -- edit -- no actually i messed that up its actually something like 1 pixel wide - so even smaller.


----


I still drive a car. I don't live on a hippy commune eating sprouts and tofu. It's a big problem for which I don't have the answers, but regurgitating a bunch of crap you found on some oil-sponsored website doesn't change it.

... and OMG faking it for grant money?? ROTF.... have a think about how much grant money anyone could get from the oil industry if they could come up with ANY real proof against it? Set for life money duh.


----- edit -----


Oh, sorry, I just noticed you used the word "contextualize". I take it all back, you are clearly an intellectual giant ;D


Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on August 26, 2018, 07:30:57 AM
Blid absolutely no one called you that.  You fucking blow at this game, always did.   And youre a fucking loser irl faggot.

Then why does it say that on the plaque?


Well I don't know the history of such things, but I must say I do find Blid's plaque to be very convincing. I am confident that the owner of such a plaque must be a person of unrivaled quality, skill and distinction.




(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4327.0;attach=2536)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on August 26, 2018, 02:56:49 PM
heres mine
(http://i63.tinypic.com/4t4y2d.jpg)

dam chops nice #1  :o

now whose ready drink some beer and listen to music ;D  :blank: do what?  >:( ohhh yall dudes

man we need a little hippy community ..or better yet build chimps like a old western town they can drive golf carts..we give the babies 1st grade education and eventualy work the generations to 4th grade lvl. .. then we all go to the saloon and drink.
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: Lambchops on September 11, 2018, 07:11:50 PM
The guy's name was Rupert Murdoch and he went on to control a sizable portion of the world's public information.

State controlled media monopolies are bad but so are publicly owned media monopolies. The western world's media ... FB ... Murdoch... whatever else...  is not even properly regulated let alone state controlled.

Here's an an interesting article written by Kevin Rudd (former Prime Minister of Australia) about about Rupert Murdoch (the guy who owns FOX and lots of other media too).

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/cancer-eating-the-heart-of-australian-democracy-20180826-p4zzum.html (https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/cancer-eating-the-heart-of-australian-democracy-20180826-p4zzum.html)

Murdoch was in the fake news and political manipulation business decades before home internet.


-- edit --


If you read the article the"NBN" refers to the National Broadband Network which was a plan to have fibre-optic internet connections to every home in Australia.

Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: woot. on September 29, 2018, 02:23:48 PM
No space or moon but Giants are real.  ;)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on September 30, 2018, 12:14:19 AM
Carole King - It's Too Late (Audio) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkKxmnrRVHo#)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on September 30, 2018, 12:29:07 AM
THREE SIX MAFIA - I Ain't Cha Friend - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6qQfkADe3s#)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on September 30, 2018, 09:20:50 AM
Carole King - It's Too Late (Audio) - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkKxmnrRVHo#[/url])


good cat
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on September 30, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
THREE SIX MAFIA - I Ain't Cha Friend - YouTube ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6qQfkADe3s#[/url])


hell yea 36 is epic
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: ~ToRa~ on March 30, 2019, 11:54:40 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/infowars-host-alex-jones-blames-115415949.html (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/infowars-host-alex-jones-blames-115415949.html)
Title: Re: Info wars shut down good or bad?
Post by: easycompany on March 30, 2019, 11:32:15 PM
yup mofo is nuts  :D psychosis isnt hard to hit he shoulda left a note telling him not to get on the radio when he is fucked up or a sitter