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Title: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 03, 2018, 09:28:57 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/w5NicqP.jpg)
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 03, 2018, 09:43:52 PM
thats exactly what was sent to me. nothing cut/cropped.
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Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 04, 2018, 12:07:48 AM
need more info? what happened here exactly?
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Post by: Szwagier on September 04, 2018, 12:56:45 AM
Yes its legall, he dont See unit what he is making, icon for any units got delay than % of production
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Post by: Shotgun on September 04, 2018, 06:11:04 AM
That's a black and white photo taken on a phone camera, lol.
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Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 06:34:08 AM
Watcher asked for ss and this is what we got..

Cant see entire  mini map.. Resources..
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Post by: maciek on September 04, 2018, 08:00:04 AM
Are watchers even allowed to request ss?
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Post by: Sepi on September 04, 2018, 08:24:07 AM
not a legit ss
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Post by: Sepi on September 04, 2018, 08:38:04 AM
http://en.war2.ru/support/taking-finding-screenshots/ (http://en.war2.ru/support/taking-finding-screenshots/)

How to Take Screenshots

    When you want to take a screenshot simply press the “Print Screen” key on your keyboard. This key is usually located on the top row of the keyboard on the right-hand side (in the same row as the “F” keys). It can also be labeled “PrtSc”. If you’re using a laptop you might need push the “Fn” key too.
     
    After you press the key the screen will momentarily blink/flicker to indicate that the image has been captured. That’s it! Each time you press PrtSc a screenshot will be taken and auto-saved as a new file.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 04, 2018, 09:49:23 AM
That's a black and white photo taken on a phone camera, lol.
hahaha
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 04, 2018, 09:52:02 AM
Watchers shouldn't really ask because it's not their place.  They should msg someone playing in the game and suggest they ask.  But it's not like there's a rule against watchers asking... player still has to take.

This ss definitely isn't an Officially Acceptable ss™ but it could potentially be a good faith effort to take a ss... probably something we could talk to Sav about.  maybe a phone shot would be okay if it showed the whole screen?
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 10:15:34 AM
Its spb's ss.. Mecklar and savage thought they saw something suspicious.

Spb says he on imac and can't take ss
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Post by: Szwagier on September 04, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
I thought its spb and i wasnt wrong, someone Belive spb hack??
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Post by: tupac on September 04, 2018, 11:23:14 AM
Screenshots are worthless! Stupid to even be a rule! I got a program on my 2nd monitor to show me the map with out fog and clean war2.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 04, 2018, 11:29:39 AM
Screenshots are worthless! Stupid to even be a rule! I got a program on my 2nd monitor to show me the map with out fog and clean war2.

Is there a way to detect programs like that?
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Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 04, 2018, 01:12:58 PM
if the antihack is strong it would get that because he's still hacking if he's accessing an uncovered map, should set off the alarms even if it beats the ss test
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Post by: tupac on September 04, 2018, 01:27:14 PM
Screenshots are worthless! Stupid to even be a rule! I got a program on my 2nd monitor to show me the map with out fog and clean war2.

Is there a way to detect programs like that?
There is nothing that can be done. Your best bet is to make war2 run in a VM that's in a web browser and dont give the player control over the os. LOL the hacker will always get a step ahead.
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Post by: easycompany on September 04, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
 ;D who would spend time to make that and the know how lol
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tupac on September 04, 2018, 01:29:26 PM
if the antihack is strong it would get that because he's still hacking if he's accessing an uncovered map, should set off the alarms even if it beats the ss test

Wrong it doesn't modify war2 at all just reads its memory. Imagine a map editor but it pulls the tiles, units, building and displays them in it's own program. The 2nd monitor eliminates the alt tab :)
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tupac on September 04, 2018, 01:31:51 PM
;D who would spend time to make that and the know how lol

There is 3 ways to bypass the screen shot.

1. Certain version of war2 and a known hack.
2. Reverse out the icons for buildings and gold mines, etc. To fix the on and off in which I have done years ago lol or just hit tab and black out the minimap LOL!!!!!
3. The program I mentioned above.

Its worthless to even ask for a ss it's a waste of time for admins and users.
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Post by: easycompany on September 04, 2018, 01:44:12 PM
i could see it if it was war2 bigger and $ was around the game.. just to for fun sounds idk torturous lol.. just take a knife and cut out on screen altogether fixes the others :P
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Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 02:04:36 PM
Will hitting tab during a pause Black the minimap out?
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Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 04, 2018, 02:05:35 PM
;D who would spend time to make that and the know how lol

There is 3 ways to bypass the screen shot.

1. Certain version of war2 and a known hack.
2. Reverse out the icons for buildings and gold mines, etc. To fix the on and off in which I have done years ago lol or just hit tab and black out the minimap LOL!!!!!
3. The program I mentioned above.

Its worthless to even ask for a ss it's a waste of time for admins and users.


Could u do one of the things u mentioned? How long would it take?
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 04, 2018, 02:21:20 PM
Will hitting tab during a pause Black the minimap out?
never heard that one
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: van on September 04, 2018, 02:59:00 PM
Told you fucks the polish are hacking.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 03:06:35 PM
Spb is Russian.. and most likely not hacking.

You would think somebody playing as long as him would be able to take a screenshot though. I don't know any computer that's not capable of doing it
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 03:09:50 PM
I'm not convinced that is hacking but it is crazy how advanced some of these players have become in the last 6 months. Seemingly out of nowhere. But I haven't been on a whole lot and last 6 months until recently
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Sepi on September 04, 2018, 04:18:14 PM
I'm not convinced that is hacking but it is crazy how advanced some of these players have become in the last 6 months. Seemingly out of nowhere. But I haven't been on a whole lot and last 6 months until recently

I think you are correct in assesssing the skill level of some players advancing like crazy. I personally can't see it or feel it, because my skill level  has increased a lot. That is why I'd like to ask you to give some examples or some additional information on how the skill level has increased, if you can. This way I can actually analyze the situation and give additional contributions towards advancing the validity of this thesis.


Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 04:39:26 PM
Spb skill level made a noticeable spike in the last year. Silent farts. Lake. Maciek
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 04:39:54 PM
Twn cancel
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Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
Tora

A few of those players followed a natural progression but a couple of them made some very large spikes and skill level in a short amount of time
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tupac on September 04, 2018, 05:06:03 PM
;D who would spend time to make that and the know how lol

There is 3 ways to bypass the screen shot.

1. Certain version of war2 and a known hack.
2. Reverse out the icons for buildings and gold mines, etc. To fix the on and off in which I have done years ago lol or just hit tab and black out the minimap LOL!!!!!
3. The program I mentioned above.

Its worthless to even ask for a ss it's a waste of time for admins and users.


Could u do one of the things u mentioned? How long would it take?

Hit tab when the game starts..


All of above is done an already working.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Antti_Kiviniemi on September 04, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Spb skill level made a noticeable spike in the last year. Silent farts. Lake. Maciek

Twn cancel

Tora

A few of those players followed a natural progression but a couple of them made some very large spikes and skill level in a short amount of time

Well SPB has played a lot against people like Braviet, Ripe, or myself. His skill level seems much higher than before, but his skill level has not risen at all in relation to my skill level.

Silent~Farts is one of the people I've given a few sessions of private tutoring. Plus I think he was very rusty a while ago.

Lale skill level seems abysmal. Only thing he has going for him is that he plays very out of meta and very aggressive. He doesn't make peons properly, his resource balance is bad, and his powering is very slow.

TWN-Cancel I am surprised to hear. He plays a lot against Slacher and a few other people. Also I've felt him be more ambitious with his play. He seemed upset when he seemed completely unable to defeat me, and didn't want to play against me anymore. This reminds me of SPB as well. SPB also didn't want to play against me anymore when he seemed completely unable to beat him (when I didn't want him to defeat me). I think I found a commonality here: they felt their skill level wasn't at the level they wanted it to be, they were upset about it, and wanted to do something about it. I think Cancel & SPB both were just very motivated to improve, and they've worked hard to do so. I've seen Cancel online a lot, and playing a lot of 1v1s (he used to be more team game oriented in the past).

Maciek. I havn't seen drastic changes in his gamestyle, but his game has become a lot more... sharp. The details in his game are much more refined, and he seems to be more present in the game, more aware of the situations. I think this is a result of natural learning curve and dilligent work towards his goals.

Tora. Well, I've given Tora couple lessons and some feedback. Tora plays a lot. But I don't think his improvement is anything out of the ordinary. Steady improvement.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on September 04, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
Is it possible that tk has gotten a lot worse, and that's why it seems like everyone else is better?
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Post by: XuRnT on September 04, 2018, 06:13:54 PM
His list seems pretty right though as a ladder historian.

Maciek, LaLe, and Silent~Farts have definitely been improving while at the same time probably some are falling off.

Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 04, 2018, 08:08:32 PM
I'm def not where I was 6 months or a year ago.. But they've definitely improved significantly compared to 6 months or a year ago
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Sepi on September 05, 2018, 04:44:20 AM
Is it possible that tk has gotten a lot worse, and that's why it seems like everyone else is better?

yes I think this is a factor as well.
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Post by: XuRnT on September 05, 2018, 05:46:59 AM
Heck even ~Tora~ had a win over KHB I think. Even if KHB is rusty that is a huge accomplishment and something to be proud of.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: tk[as] on September 05, 2018, 06:40:28 AM
Me and lale- went 2-2 with brav/spb last night.. We lost one from 6/8

I personally am more of a 2s player tho.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 05, 2018, 12:23:18 PM
Heck even ~Tora~ had a win over KHB I think. Even if KHB is rusty that is a huge accomplishment and something to be proud of.

Yeah I got 2 wins on him under “cherrycoke” lol.

Me and lale- went 2-2 with brav/spb last night.. We lost one from 6/8

I personally am more of a 2s player tho.

You know why that is? It’s cause 2v2 more interesting than 1v1. Most people don’t have the attention span to play 30min 1v1 games.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Szwagier on September 05, 2018, 12:48:39 PM
cuase for people playing 1x1 is too hard, lot of ppl are proud cause they won 1x1 vs better player in 2x2 but its not the same 1x1 
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 05, 2018, 12:51:49 PM
cuase for people playing 1x1 is too hard, lot of ppl are proud cause they won 1x1 vs better player in 2x2 but its not the same 1x1 

May I ask how do you pay attention to so many details after 30mins of intense game play? Most people I think would get bored at that point.
Just looking for pointers.
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: Szwagier on September 05, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
cause i like playing warcraft 2, if i get bored i just quit game for days/weeks/months, 3 years ago i was half year inactive cause i get bored

I prefer play late game than playing one lust attack and win, its boring
Title: Re: is this legit SS
Post by: ~ToRa~ on September 05, 2018, 01:39:22 PM
^^I guess it just takes a certain kind of personality and skill set to be good at 1v1.