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Title: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 21, 2019, 08:44:29 PM
Hi there. I'm glad to be a volunteer to translate the game, Warcraft II Combat Edition into Simplified Chinese. Would it be possible for me to do the job?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 01:02:15 AM
Hi!
I'd say, most likely yes!
Russian team made a translation to russian in 2007, i took part is that (checking and packing that language files), so, you can do the same with Simplified Chinese i think.

What you need to do is to unpack war2dat.mpq into a folder, then edit about 80 files in rez-folder using several resource editors.

I can send you that soft if you interested in that.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 23, 2019, 01:25:31 AM
That's amazing. Send me the tools please. I'd like to have a try. If I were able to do that, I would send you the final work when I finish the job. Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 02:49:19 AM
I also forgot: need to make several new fonts for that job.
I used russian font from russian DOS-version of War2TD. Required to change it from different format, but i had that.
Not sure there is Simplified Chinese font for war2 exist anywhere. Also not sure, maybe font from starcraft will be compatible if exists.

Are you sure there's no any version of war2 in Chinese?
Also, is there any version of starcraft 1 in Simplified Chinese? Can save much time if it is.

I looked into my projects:
About 12 years ago I made a converter to change places of different letters inside 1 font file. I also can export font into .bmp-file.
So, i can add some code to import .bmp file into .fnt also.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 03:11:50 AM
Files should work on all windows since probably 95, just tried on win7 - also work fine.

winmpq: to extract files from .mpq-archives. And after editing that files - to pack them back into .mpq
After first start the program you should click options - file lists - and there add file list called "Warcraft II BNE.txt". Otherwise you will not see filenames in mpq-archive.

Tblpad: to edit .pad-files extracted from archive.

Tbled102: 1 more to editing .pad-files.
Looks like tblpad is what you need. But maybe there are some troubles with it, then use tbled102.

BinEdit: to edit .bin-files.

If it will require VB40032.DLL - use it from winmpq archive.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 23, 2019, 03:52:33 AM
I found an old ISO of Warcraft II TOD Chinese version. Hopefully it may help. By the way, great thanks to your description!

https://mega.nz/#!MxwmUKhA

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Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 04:09:39 AM
That's nice! That will help a lot!

Resource files are not compatible between DOS and BNE versions, we made the same job in 2008: to get russian messages from DOS-version, to edit one of .tbl or .bin -files in BNE and insert that russian message there.
But some files can be converted. Art can be just copied. Unit voices can also be copied, you just need to rename files (their names are different).
You can also copy videos (if exist).
So, existing DOS version is a great help to translate.

Are you sure there's no chinese BNE version?
Such translation is quite a big job. Would be sad to make it if somebody already did.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 04:43:58 AM
Hm, unpacked and installed that chinese version:
Looked into DATA dir and see all the files: INSMAIN.INS INSSTR.INS MAINDAT.WAR MUDDAT.CUD REZDAT.WAR SFXDAT.SUD SNDDAT.WAR STRDAT.WAR
- are less than in russian version.
but there are 2 more files in chinese: FONTBIG.CFN FONTMED.CFN
I never saw such files in war2td builds. And i have no idea how to unpack them.
That can be a problem, if they contain some interesting chinese data, though i'm not sure.

Also, war2 have been installed and started sucessfully (just requires the original CD).
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Well, i unpacked all the fonts (i think so) from known archives of your chinese dos version.
There are 8 font files at all (different sizes), but only 1 on them contains some interesting letters that could be chinese letters. Here they are:
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555--25-
55---55-
-----5-0
let:182:num
---25----
--424----
222122225
554255425
555255525
--515-525
---25--15
--425--25
--245--25
-425---25
-245-2245
-55--5555
-55--5550
let:183:num
---25---
--4245--
22212225
55424555
5551555-
--4245--
22212225
55424555
5552555-
--525---
---25---
---55---
---5---0
let:184:num
--221225
--245425
-4255515
-245-525
4255-425
245--245
555-4255
55--245-
---4255-
--4245--
--2455--
--555---
--55---0
let:185:num
--2-------
--24------
--22212225
-424542455
-24555255-
4255-515--
245---25--
555--425--
55---245--
----4255--
----245---
----555---
----55---0
let:186:num
2212225
5555425
5555525
----525
-----15
-----25
----425
2212225
5555555
5555550
let:187:num
-2---2--
-2---2--
22222222
-2---2--
-2---2--
-2---2--
-2---2--
-----2--
-----2--
----2---
--22---0
let:188:num
22------
--22222-
----2--2
2---2---
---2----
---2----
--2-----
-2-----2
2----07-
22222222
2------2
let:189:num
222222-
-----2-
-----2-
----2--
----2--
---2---
--2-2--
-2---2-
2-----2
2-----2
let:190:num
-2-----
-2-----
-2--222
2222--2
-2----2
-2---2-
-2--2--
-2-----
-2-----
-2-----
--22222
let:191:num
2------2
-2-----2
-2-----2
--2----2
--2---2-
------2-
------2-
-----2--
----2---
---2---0
let:192:num
--22222
--2---2
--2---2
--2---2
-2-22-2
2----2-
-----2-
----2--
---2---
--2----
-2----0
let:193:num
-----22
---22--
222-2--
----2--
----2--
2222222
----2--
----2--
---2---
---2---
--2---0
let:194:num
2--2--2
2--2--2
2--2--2
2--2--2
2--2--2
------2
-----2-
-----2-
----2--
---2---
--2---0
let:195:num
-22222-
-------
-------
2222222
----2--
----2--
----2--
---2---
---2---
--2----
-2----0
let:196:num
2----
2----
2----
2----
22---
2-22-
2---2
2----
2----
2----
2---0
let:197:num
----2--
----2--
----2--
2222222
----2--
----2--
----2--
---2---
---2---
--2----
-2----0
let:198:num
-2222202
22222226
-3112222
22-----2
-----2--
---2----
2--2--2-
--22---2
let:199:num
222222
-----2
-----2
-----2
----2-
-2--2-
--22--
---2--
--2-2-
-2---2
2----0
let:200:num
---2---
---2---
2222222
-----2-
----2--
---2---
--222--
-2-2-2-
2--2--2
---2---
---2--0
let:201:num
-----2
-----2
-----2
-----2
----2-
----2-
---2--
--2---
-2----
2----0
let:202:num
------2--
-2----2--
-2-----2-
-2-----2-
-2-----2-
-2------2
-2------2
-2------2
-2------2
2-------2
2-------2
let:203:num
2------
2------
2------
2---122
2222---
2------
2------
2------
2------
2------
-222222
let:204:num
2222222
------2
------2
------2
------2
------2
-----2-
-----2-
----2--
---2---
--2---0
let:205:num
--2-----
--22----
-2-2----
-2--2---
-2--2---
2----2--
2----2--
------2-
------2-
-------2
-------2
let:206:num
----2----
----2----
222222222
----2----
-2--2--2-
-2--2--2-
2---2---2
2---2---2
2---2---2
2---2---2
----2---0
let:207:num
22222222
-------2
-------2
-------2
------2-
--2---2-
---2-2--
----2---
----2---
-----2--
-----2-0
let:208:num
22---
--222
-----
-----
22---
--222
-----
-----
-----
22---
--222
let:209:num
---2----
---2----
--2-----
--2-----
--2-----
-2---2--
-2----2-
-2----2-
2------2
2------2
22222222
let:210:num
-----2-
-----2-
-----2-
22--2--
--2-2--
---222-
----2-2
---2--2
---2---
--2----
-2----0
let:211:num
222222
--2---
--2---
--2---
222222
--2---
--2---
--2---
--2---
--2---
---222
let:212:num
--2----
--2----
2222222
--2---2
--2---2
--2--2-
--2-2--
--22---
--2----
--2----
--2---0
let:213:num
-22222---
-----2---
-----2---
-----2---
-----2---
-----2---
-----2---
222222222
let:214:num
222222
-----2
-----2
-----2
-----2
-22222
-----2
-----2
-----2
-----2
222222
let:215:num
222222
------
------
222222
-----2
-----2
-----2
----2-
---2--
--2---
-2---0
let:216:num
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
------2
-----2-
-----2-
----2--
--22--0
let:217:num
-----2----
-----2----
--2--2----
--2--2----
--2--2---2
--2--2---2
--2--2---2
--2--2--2-
-2---2--2-
-2---2-2--
2----22--0
let:218:num
2------
2------
2------
2------
2------
2------
2------
2-----2
2----2-
2--22--
222---0
let:219:num
2222222
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
2222222
let:220:num
2222222
2-----2
2-----2
2-----2
------2
------2
-----2-
-----2-
----2--
---2---
--2---0
let:221:num
22------
--22----
-------2
-------2
-------2
------2-
------2-
-----2--
----2---
--22---0
let:222:num
2--2-
2--2-
-2--2
-2--2
let:223:num
-22-
2--2
2--2
-220
let:224:num let:225:num let:226:num let:227:num let:228:num let:229:num let:230:num let:231:num let:232:num let:233:num let:234:num let:235:num let:236:num let:237:num let:238:num let:239:num let:240:num let:241:num let:242:num let:243:num let:244:num let:245:num let:246:num let:247:num let:248:num let:249:num let:250:num let:251:num let:252:num let:253:num let:254:num let:255:num
Each letter is raster image encoded by numbers. For example, look at "let:48:num". It's the image of 0. 49 is 1, etc.
Also, 65, 66, 67 are english letters A, B, C.
We need letters since 128. There's a part where chinese letters can be located.

So, my question: are these symbols look like chinese letters we need for war2?
If yes, that will be a good point to quick start.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 23, 2019, 08:46:08 AM
Good work! Thanks for your dedication. In fact, I must confess that I know little about the font, LOL. Luckily, I have successfully edited the rez\human1.tbl. But all the Chinese characters I inputed was in a mess. THE FONT, A BIG PROBLEM it is. I am wondering whether you can give me the Font support for the translation. Simply, a patch?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
Well, i'd say the thing required from you is to make all the required fonts in future. As i know nothing about chinese letters and i can't check it they are ok or not.
I can make or find the software to do that, but i need raster images of each letter from you.

Now let's try this font to check if it's what we need here:
You should open you war2dat.mpq, delete files:
font10x.fnt font12x.fnt font32.fnt font50.fnt font6.fnt
from art\
and add this font as each of these files.

If everything is fine, you will see your  rez\human1.tbl properly.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 23, 2019, 11:30:13 AM
Hello, I did what you had said. The font was surely changed. But having been edited, the rez\human1.tbl was still in a mess. Here is the screenshot and the translated tbl for your preview. I am ready to start the translation of this game. Great hope for a nice font support!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 11:46:43 AM
Hm, looks like your font is not perfect.
"?" means there's no letter with such code in the font file.
That's why the question: are that letters (not "?") looks as proper chinese letters?
Are they located on proper places?

Unfortunately i don't know if chinese fonts changed from dos to windows encoding.
For example, russian fonts did:
on dos there was russian charset called "cp866", and under windows: "cp1251". They just got half of russian alphabet and moved it to different place on ASCII table.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 11:58:08 AM
Looks like it's time to look into that chasets/encodings for both of us:
First of all, need to look into the simplified chinese ASCII table.

For example, russian one looks like this:
(https://image3.slideserve.com/6046216/slide19-n.jpg)
Or this:
(http://900igr.net/up/datas/224797/017.jpg)

I didn't find the same one for simplified chinese and looks like i need your help here.

And the result thing i need from you to make proper font is something like a picture (look into an attachment).
Looks like a long bmp-file with letters, each letter located in it's own square (14x14 in my example).
What i need is 5 such pictures: 1 for each font: font10x.fnt font12x.fnt font32.fnt font50.fnt font6.fnt
Then it will be perfect.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 02:45:01 PM
Well, i checked that font different way:
I edited human1.tbl replacing some part of text by the whole ASCII table from 32 to 255.
I also inserted that font as art\font12x.fnt

I want to check all the symbols existing in that font file.
Here's how it's look like:
(http://ss.war2.ru/ss/9906.gif)

Looks like not so many chinese letter inside. Is that Simplified Chinese there?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 23, 2019, 03:43:55 PM
Well, i think i know what to do with that:
1. I can draw any symbols on the canvas, to rasterize them. For example, i can get Unicode. I can draw them selecting any size i need.
2. next step - to convert appeared raster to war2-.fnt file.

So, i still need to know 2 things from you:
1. what are the codes of Simplified Chinese letters? From "A" to "Z". To let me know what symbols to draw.
2. what codepage you use on your OS? What are ASCII-codes from "A" to "Z" in range 0-255?

That 2 things should be enough to make a war2 font. Just a little more of my time.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 23, 2019, 08:57:16 PM
I see. No Chinese characters at all in the screenshot.

I am contacting a computer programmer of my own, who is also willing to get the classic game translated. He may join our discussion by today. :)
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: Karlock on January 24, 2019, 12:06:05 AM
Well, i think i know what to do with that:
1. I can draw any symbols on the canvas, to rasterize them. For example, i can get Unicode. I can draw them selecting any size i need.
2. next step - to convert appeared raster to war2-.fnt file.

So, i still need to know 2 things from you:
1. what are the codes of Simplified Chinese letters? From "A" to "Z". To let me know what symbols to draw.
2. what codepage you use on your OS? What are ASCII-codes from "A" to "Z" in range 0-255?

That 2 things should be enough to make a war2 font. Just a little more of my time.

Simplified Chinese use codepage  GB2312/GBK/GB18030. (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/intl/code-page-identifiers)

For GB2312 , It contains 682 signs and 6763 Chinese Characters and the GBK contains 21003 Characters . Characters of GB18030 are more than 70k .

I'm worrying about the size of the generated bitmap font, huge buffer needed. :'(
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 24, 2019, 02:25:01 AM
Hi again. I found a txt, which seems to be what you asked for. Is this the Chinese ASCII Table you need?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 24, 2019, 03:27:55 AM
Simplified Chinese use codepage  GB2312/GBK/GB18030. (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/intl/code-page-identifiers)

For GB2312 , It contains 682 signs and 6763 Chinese Characters and the GBK contains 21003 Characters . Characters of GB18030 are more than 70k .

I'm worrying about the size of the generated bitmap font, huge buffer needed. :'(
Oh, 682 signs in Simplified Chinese?
As i understand, font should have no more than 256 symbols. 1 byte per 1 symbol.
That is how all old 1-byte charsets work as i know.

Please, look at human1.tbl, 411752230 uploaded yesterday. How many bytes per 1 Chinese Character it require?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 24, 2019, 03:30:48 AM
Hi again. I found a txt, which seems to be what you asked for. Is this the Chinese ASCII Table you need?
Well, i asked about a picture for each symbol, but here i can see only 2 random bytes, then ":" and then a number (it's code).
But that makes sense only if there's no more than 256 symbols in the table.
Not sure what to do if we have more...
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: 411752230 on January 24, 2019, 04:12:24 AM
1 Chinese Character= 2 bytes
1 Chinese punctuation(full-width)=2 bytes
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 24, 2019, 07:02:01 AM
1 Chinese Character= 2 bytes
1 Chinese punctuation(full-width)=2 bytes
I'd say most likely it's not possible to translate into Simplified Chinese then,
War2 is based on 1-byte charset, you have to use 2-byte. That is a problem.

I'd say you need to hook some functions drawing messages. To catch all the requests drawing message and change them to your logic.
I don't mean it's not possible, chinese version for DOS do that most likely. But that requires some kind of reverse engineering in the exe file.

Not sure if anybody here can do that.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: Karlock on January 24, 2019, 08:52:07 PM
1 Chinese Character= 2 bytes
1 Chinese punctuation(full-width)=2 bytes
I'd say most likely it's not possible to translate into Simplified Chinese then,
War2 is based on 1-byte charset, you have to use 2-byte. That is a problem.

I'd say you need to hook some functions drawing messages. To catch all the requests drawing message and change them to your logic.
I don't mean it's not possible, chinese version for DOS do that most likely. But that requires some kind of reverse engineering in the exe file.

Not sure if anybody here can do that.

But can you help with the Wargus? Use that engine, it becomes possible. Replace bitmap font print function with TTF?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on January 25, 2019, 05:09:40 AM
Well, wargus is not war2, so there's no community there.
But yes, that should work on wargus.
And i'm not sure wargus use bitmap fonts at all. Most likely it uses Unicode or w/e, so you try to just edit fonts, maybe you will not need any font job.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: Lambchops on January 25, 2019, 09:14:24 AM
bnet > wargus

some users only use 3 or 4 chars "-->" ,"game", "gg" ,"gg no re"

no way 256 chinese chars can work?

wargus can more than likely..but the engine still needs work to make it more like war2.

the main bnet chat maybe can 2byte.(nope its 1byte)

or maybe a chinese channel+bot that has 256 different styles of writing you type in the # of ur alphabet it combines ascii chars and maybe gets over 256

well it was an idea :)


Sure this sounds like the most realistic way to get some degree of chinese text support.

A custom 8 bit font with the most useful 255 chinese chars. I would be surprised if something vaguely like this does not already exist.


Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: Muz on March 24, 2019, 01:00:35 AM
What about Japanese? Is this game translatable to Japanese?
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on March 24, 2019, 06:41:05 AM
What about Japanese? Is this game translatable to Japanese?
How many characters are in japan alphabet? It's possible if less than 256 and i'd say it's not if more...
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: Muz on March 24, 2019, 12:07:35 PM
Characters? Japanese has around 2200 characters. Warcraft 2 can accept only 256 characters? The PS2 version of Warcraft 2 does has a Japanese version though.
Title: Re: Volunteer here glad to translate the game into Simplified Chinese
Post by: iL on March 24, 2019, 02:34:21 PM
Characters? Japanese has around 2200 characters. Warcraft 2 can accept only 256 characters? The PS2 version of Warcraft 2 does has a Japanese version though.
I see, here's also a DOS-version with Simplified Chinese support. I mean that required some sufficient modifications. Original war2 uses 1-byte chaset, that means your can use an alphabet up to 255 characters or a little less.