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1) Server.War2.ru / Re: who was that dude that made puzzle puds?
« on: Today at 03:11:45 AM »
What else projects did DjinnKahn made for war2?
I know these puzzles and Warvideo.

Is anybody knows something more to look?

Also, is anybody still have contact with DjinnKahn ? Maybe talk to him would be interesting

2) Server.War2.ru / Re: ReinsTaled war2 bUt so much changings
« on: September 08, 2019, 05:06:26 PM »
That's actually important question to check.
I tried his plugins and everything have been ok, i'd say only new things that can cause crash are Lambchops plugins and fois ddraw.
Ddraw is being updated for a long time, never happened such problems, so, 1-st thing to check is plugins.
So i'd try to install clean exe 2020 (option in combat).

3) Server.War2.ru / Re: ReinsTaled war2 bUt so much changings
« on: September 07, 2019, 05:15:28 PM »
i conflict with others and i drop
PS I had to swich on something simple so i dont drop every game ! haha.
Should not happen.
What moment is drop happen? Start of the game, middle, etc?
Maybe some Lambs plugins causes a problem, i didn't look, but nothing else in gameplay changed...

4) Cartography & Custom Maps / Re: all-consuming new worlds WarCraft2 from Russia
« on: September 06, 2019, 05:00:42 PM »
WarCraft2 versions for playing only selected cards are created
and each of 3 versions includes its own language RUS USA FRA
I still didn't understand, are these 3 languages supported by wargus/stratagus?
As i understand, russian doesn't work with wargus, is it?

I downloaded Wargus_FireIce_RUS_da78and didn't find any russian resources for wargus...
How to use all these archives?
Are there resources to play wargus on russian some way?

I thought about to make build of wargus, something like Wargus Combat, maybe multilingual also. Including all the resources, everything. To just install it (next-next-next-finish) and then click "play" and enjoy.
Looks like "REMASTER" group made almost the same, they just "forgot" to mention they used wargus... But their build looks fine and it's the only one existing build for wargus.

5) Server.War2.ru / War2Combat 4.5.2 released. Chop Bars plugin removed.
« on: September 06, 2019, 04:17:59 PM »
ChopBars plugin removed at the request of players.

I think removing plugin is stupid, because anybody still can download it separately and use, getting advantage over others. And plugin have been released in May, 4,5 months ago. And it still haven't been declared as hack since that time.

Let me follow the majority.

Combat is for players, not for me.
So, let it be as up to you.

I can always return it back if the majority accept that

6) Server.War2.ru / Re: war2 music for future combat, better quality
« on: September 06, 2019, 02:17:26 PM »
I already ask you couple years ago to do someting like that, pretty sure you remember it.
Yes, i've been waiting for your reply here in this thread!

Well, i see, we probably can try to reduce size of music with no lossing much quality.
Reducing size could be quite useful thing as unpacked music requires +500Mb to the size of the whole installer.

I think we can follow 3 ways:

1. try to get this set of .wav-files and pack it into .mpq-archive lossy with strong compression.

2. try to use some modern software from 2019 to reduce the size with minimal loss quality and then pack to .mpq lossless or weak compression

3. don't reduce the size of .wavs and pack them lossless as is. Combat will require about 900Mb instead of 450, but who cares...

Of course that makes sence only if everybody agree this music is not worse than one included into BNE.

I remember your thoughts about my midi2wav experiments and you said that it's not a good way.
So, need to make sure this music is good for war2 and it can be better than the original bne one.

7) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 05, 2019, 04:19:11 PM »
I legitimately do think it's kind of neat and can see a place for it in a "War2 Remastered" like I mentioned before.  The "Remastered" setting could include health bars, unit queues, the whole shebang, maybe could be a game host setting.
So, what is your idea about that "Remastered" then? We should make another version incompatible with current one to play, then implement some plugins like this and allow playing only Remastered with Remastered and original with original?

8) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 05, 2019, 04:13:05 PM »
Well, @{Lance}, @Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) , @jordan4385 , what are your ideas about that chop bars plugin:
1. to remove it from combat.
That will not allow mass usage.
At the same time some players already can use it since May 2019, what to do with them?

2. to call it a hack?
Or to make another debate thread, continue talking about that with others, and after that to call it a hack?

3. to update antihack and add it to the list of known hacks.
To enforce that antihack to be mandatory. And ban everybody who keeps using these chop bars.

4. to just forgot about chop bars and never use it.
Is that an idea you think we should enforce now?

9) Server.War2.ru / war2 music for future combat, better quality
« on: September 05, 2019, 05:14:20 AM »
From this discussion form gog:

The idea is to get CDA-tracks from the original War2BDP disc.

The thread owner's job was not perfect, he got .wav-files even worse than original (as i can consider on his wav-files size and mpq packing quality), but i like his idea.

So i asked ours, and lesnik gave me the result of his job for converting BDP CDA to wav with no (or minimal) loss.

That sounds different than BNE's music, but looks like Blizzard reduced quality and cropped their music to save place and put it to their BNE CD-disk.

What do you guys think about this music and to add it into the next version of combat replacing original or maybe as an option?


As i said before, i understand nothing in music, all i can see is this music is a little different than BNE, tracks are longer sometimes and it's much bigger as a disk space required.

10) Mods & Development / Re: remake of Warcraft 1
« on: September 05, 2019, 04:53:45 AM »
Yet another war1gus?

Real remake of Warcraft 1 is what @Zelya making here: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,3128.0.html
Now all of his forces turned to make it wokring with original war1 in network game. Syncronization becomes broken during some kind of attack (grunt attacking peons or w/e, he is trying to find problems).

Those hacks are just as easy with war2combat.  Just because the apps that provided those hacks dont work with combat, doesnt mean it's not possible.
i've been sure war2 make checks of peers for such things like ogres 252lvl. There should just break the syncronization between clients.

12) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 04, 2019, 06:55:29 PM »
I dont know if Lambhax slipped that in without iL realizing it or not but whatever the case,  the SAFE thing to do is to remove it first,  then debate about it, and THEN add it if its clear that the majority thinks its cool (like what happened with the black to pink patch).  A crap ton of debate went into adding it.  And that wasnt even a game changing hack like the chop meter is,  it was just a freaking visual fix.  I have learned to live with b2p but I still wish it didnt exist.  It ruined a whole part of my enjoyment of war2 forever.  So did fixing the lumber bug.
I'd say the safe thing was to debate about it before Lambchops released it. Since he released it months ago, some people began to use that and others didn't

Adding that into combat was one of ways to find balance between those who know about it and those who don't know.
Another possible way was to call chop bars a hack, deny it and add these chop bars to antihack to let people know if someone uses it.

Also not a problem to follow that way in a week or a month later: to release new combat, new antihack and deny combat with enabled chop bars to join.

13) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 04, 2019, 06:33:41 PM »
The only thing i know and without offended you is… I told you for many years to change your name for a worldwide one, i always told you RU was not a good thing for our server and you have never listen me.
Btw that was a russian torrent tracker...
And that wasn't about .ru, that was about unofficial server. GOG is official, war2.ru is not. Quite enough to not care or war2.ru and care of GOG.

14) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 04, 2019, 06:05:17 PM »
Actually i dont know about 1.5, 1.4, 1.3, look like your right and its not bt net, but the major probleme is still 2.02
The major problem is GOG uses 2021 and they dont want 2020.

You can say GOG is nothing, but i had an experience when i uploaded combat of the torrent tracker and they didn't want to approve build of war2 with "some unknown .ru server". GOG support helped very much.
Another world knows about shitty GOG as the best server ever and they knows nothing about .ru...

15) Server.War2.ru / Re: Which is more of a hack 2?
« on: September 04, 2019, 05:52:22 PM »
Actually it's not client 2.02, it's patch 2.02 and above that, 1.5, 1.4, 1.3 etc etc.
Hm, your link shows "Patch 2.02" only for battle.net edition. And patches "Patch 1.5", 1.4, etc are related to "Tides of Darkness & Beyond the Dark Portal", so DOS versions as i understand...
Never heared about 1.x patches for BNE. I always thought 2.00 was the 1st BNE version. Not sure about 2.01 patch exists anywhere, i know about 2.020 and 2.021 patches only.
Appreciate if one can find different patches for BNE version...

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