It was a post that seemed more directed towards me and the things I posted, and I am not even a authority anymore. I don't know if disrespectful is the right word for me to choose, maybe insulted.. seem kind of like the same meaning to me idk.
"It just seems that they are finally growing tired of being crapped on and have zero recognition from the w2 community/admins. " - greenplastic
That is the part that really got me. Seems like the majority of the post was about things I said so I took it that this part was to me as well. I just don't see why he would think that, I try to keep a good relationship and get to know every player that I can get a chance to. It was hurtful to me that 00Joe thought this about me as he is a friend of mine also.
Yo Xurnt. I meant no disrespect to you. Hope that is cleared up. I think the reason you might feel it is aimed at you is because you care about the community so deeply and always have. That is exactly why it isn't directed at you. My response about the kanca being unknown was a misinformed reply since I totally missed that you were joking. My apologies.
The group of players I think is being ignored the most are the players that are kind of in between. There is a significant effort to bring in new players and a big one that caters to the "pros". The people in between that typically get shit on by the pros for not being good enough and ignored because they've shown they can tread water on their own. I can't reasonably say what I think should be done because I don't have an answer. I'm just pointing out that it should be no surprise when all that frustration finally boils up all at once. It just takes one of that groups' members to voice their opinion for the others to finally be able to voice their own issues.
There is definitely an issue with admins on the server due to some bad choices. Yamon has continously caused issues with numerous players and ruined their fun and gameplay. This isn't anything new. When a person of that standing has used an admins account, it really does not instill any sort of confidence in leadership on the server. In addition, when Yamon is the one harassing your group, and you try to voice your frustrations and feel that your voice is being ignored on technicalities, what are you really supposed to do? It feels like the leadership is telling those players to deal with it. Meanwhile, Yamon is getting a high five, due to inaction, so that the admins can maintain that they follow the policies word for word.
Tora, as far as a watcher not asking for a ss, there is precedent. A watcher has been allowed to ask for a ss before but it had to be reasonable. A person like PB who pauses constantly asking for ss's both as a player and a watcher often gets ignored. The players will police this getting out of hand. They will ban watchers who get out of line or interrupt gameflow on stupid pauses. The easiest thing to do is just hit the ss button for the player in question and then move on. When a ss request is vague, it is easy to just press the button rather than be the accused and not have known it. The watcher must know that if it is viewed as a stupid request by the players, that they may be banned for future games by those same players. It is something that the watcher must weigh selfishly. What you suggest is reasonable. Alerting a player via private message, may be the route most people will take but sometimes it is warranted for a watcher to pause and ask for a ss.
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