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To all our Ukrainian brothers!
iL:
--- Quote from: {Lance} on March 02, 2022, 06:53:19 PM ---I have seen videos of interviews with captured PoWs and based on their physical appearance, it almost looks like they are 15-18yrs old.
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Official russian meda says these are ukrainian fakes. :)
1. no sense to use conscripts in such operations
2. no way to be captured: warriors move together, shoulder to shoulder. If ukrainians capture russians, they could be captured together. But operation is planned very well, so no captured russians at all should be.
Also russian medias say ukrainians are masters of fake. In many areas. Like to mass-kill civilians and then make it look like russian agression.
tk[as]:
--- Quote from: iL on March 02, 2022, 06:39:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: {Lance} on March 02, 2022, 06:30:32 PM ---Interesting question about the Military requirement. Here it's called the Draft, in other places it's called Conscription and I believe Russia's military is at least 50% conscripts, if not more. Compare that to the US where the military is 100% volunteer. Volunteers always fight harder than Conscripts. IMO Ukraine should not have banned all males 18-60 from fleeing. They should have said if you want to run like a pussy, then run, because you'd be a waste of bullets anyway. Kind of like in War2 when you ally a noob who is a complete waste and would actually be better if they werent in the game at all because they are wasting a mine you could be using yourself.
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Our official media says there's no conscripts used in this operation. I'm inclined to believe, because of your arguments. Putin is not an idiot, he understands that much better than me and you. :)
Russian militaries had a very big experience last years: in Syria and many other regions.
Our medias say that russians won quickly in regions where USA waste many years and lost.
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The United States lost because they wanted to lose. They were not there for war or to own the country.
In the case of Afghanistan I think they just wanted the opium. American politicians were pressured to invade Afghanistan to pursue the agenda of big pharmaceutical companies.
I strongly suspect Putin will make quick work of Ukraine though. There are no hidden agendas or ulterior motives. He just wants to protect his eastern border
{Lance}:
--- Quote from: iL on March 02, 2022, 07:03:25 PM ---Official russian meda says these are ukrainian fakes. :)
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So stuff like this is fake according to the Russian media? Does anyone actually believe the media when the say these are fake? They look pretty convincing to me, heres a new one from today with the same dude that was in one from yesterday (the old guy with beard). I dont speak russian so I cant really understand what they are saying and if any of it makes any sense or not.
iL:
--- Quote from: {Lance} on March 02, 2022, 07:11:20 PM ---So stuff like this is fake according to the Russian media? Does anyone actually believe the media when the say these are fake? They look pretty convincing to me, heres a new one from today with the same dude that was in one from yesterday (the old guy with beard). I dont speak russian so I cant really understand what they are saying and if any of it makes any sense or not.
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Yes, they say such videos are fakes.
Of course looks pretty convincing, otherwise what reason to make it?
Just actors who says what they should say, why not?
I didn't see anything about these 3 guys, several more have been found on photos in a different setting.
Like the the bloody woman, "the inncent victim of russian agression" and another photo with her in the company of ukrainian nazi...
tora is a simp bitch for billionaires:
--- Quote from: {Lance} on March 02, 2022, 03:29:33 PM ---
--- Quote from: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on March 02, 2022, 02:44:18 PM ---the real reason Russia is invading is certainly because of the geopolitics involved
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While the geopolitics issue is a better "excuse" than nazis, it's still just an excuse. How do we know this? Because there was and still is a 0% chance that Ukraine would EVER be allowed to enter Nato. LOTS of countries want to join Nato, but most dont meet the requirements, those that do meet the requirements willfully choose to remain neutral (Austria, Cyprus, Finland, Ireland, Malta, Sweden and a shit ton of others). I wouldnt be surprised to see some of these countries join Nato in the very near future given Russia's recent unprovoked actions. For example, why doesnt Russia itself join Nato? Because it cant, it doesnt meet any of the 3 requirements. Ukraine is FAR from meeting such requirements. I still believe that the true reason is nothing more than Putin's own ego. He wants to recreate the former USSR geographically. Period. It really is that simple.
I will mention that should things change in Russia, there is a possibility it could join Nato itself if it ever decides to adhere to the 3 requirements. That is an opportunity that every country on the planet has if they choose to do so and are successful in meeting the requirements.
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basically you reject ideas that make sense instead believe unhinged conspiracies with no logical reasoning
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