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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: December 04, 2024, 07:15:31 AM »
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: December 04, 2024, 07:10:07 AM »
Ladder updates:
Change/rework the map pool. Suggested by Equinox and Sthogun.
It was done in the first days.
To announce the maps in advance, before starts the ladder. Suggested by Equinox
Good one. Map pool will be announce 1 week in advance for the next season.
To upgrade size and quality of map pool announcements. Suggested by Equinox
It was done in the first days.
To have only one ladder ongoing in the website. Suggested by Shotgun
In progress. The idea is to remove the old ladder scoreboard keeping only the historical games tab and the scores between players. The current system is like that since 2020 and middle of 2023 we managed to make GOW count in but the system is old, there is no start/ end seasons etc. Soon should show only new ladder ranking.
To have the ranking numbers in the Mist ladder scoreboard.
In progress
To have the legend, gm and master tags as only rewards and based in each season. Suggested by Equinox
I really liked this idea. I should open a different thread for discussion as might be a sensitive point for the community. If approves, we can apply for the next season, not the beta results.
To not use ELO/MMR system. Suggested by Lance
He has a fair point saying that players can grind points on noobs, which is true.
I disagree and I believe the current system is better. We have mechanics in place to give less and less points based on the ELO gap. Also players are free to play anyone they want. My suggestion is to monitor if it will really happens and which features we can implement.
The old system for example there were good and bad things. For example if you are #1 you can just dodge players…ok you can create some punishment, but it will unlikely have to force people to play.
Also if you are in #1 and you beat the #2 9-0 in a row and you lost the 10th game…he will pass you ..
For the moment we stick to ELO MMR
Change/rework the map pool. Suggested by Equinox and Sthogun.
It was done in the first days.
To announce the maps in advance, before starts the ladder. Suggested by Equinox
Good one. Map pool will be announce 1 week in advance for the next season.
To upgrade size and quality of map pool announcements. Suggested by Equinox
It was done in the first days.
To have only one ladder ongoing in the website. Suggested by Shotgun
In progress. The idea is to remove the old ladder scoreboard keeping only the historical games tab and the scores between players. The current system is like that since 2020 and middle of 2023 we managed to make GOW count in but the system is old, there is no start/ end seasons etc. Soon should show only new ladder ranking.
To have the ranking numbers in the Mist ladder scoreboard.
In progress
To have the legend, gm and master tags as only rewards and based in each season. Suggested by Equinox
I really liked this idea. I should open a different thread for discussion as might be a sensitive point for the community. If approves, we can apply for the next season, not the beta results.
To not use ELO/MMR system. Suggested by Lance
He has a fair point saying that players can grind points on noobs, which is true.
I disagree and I believe the current system is better. We have mechanics in place to give less and less points based on the ELO gap. Also players are free to play anyone they want. My suggestion is to monitor if it will really happens and which features we can implement.
The old system for example there were good and bad things. For example if you are #1 you can just dodge players…ok you can create some punishment, but it will unlikely have to force people to play.
Also if you are in #1 and you beat the #2 9-0 in a row and you lost the 10th game…he will pass you ..
For the moment we stick to ELO MMR
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Server.War2.ru / Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« on: December 04, 2024, 01:13:22 AM »
AA.NoobNiko is the best streamer droid !
You should have seen his smile after beating StarTale last week
You should have seen his smile after beating StarTale last week
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Server.War2.ru / 1vs1 GOW tour this Sunday 8th at 21:30 CET
« on: December 03, 2024, 01:58:26 AM »
Hi all
Hosting a 1vs1 gow tour this Sunday.
8th December
21:30 CET (estimated, unless I can’t log in)
Bo1 with double elimination
Finals bo3 starting 1-0
Random brackets
No prizes
Same format as the previous one where you can see the brackets here:
https://challonge.com/h4wxvyd5
Hosting a 1vs1 gow tour this Sunday.
8th December
21:30 CET (estimated, unless I can’t log in)
Bo1 with double elimination
Finals bo3 starting 1-0
Random brackets
No prizes
Same format as the previous one where you can see the brackets here:
https://challonge.com/h4wxvyd5
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Server.War2.ru / Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« on: December 02, 2024, 03:09:13 PM »
Not sure that was the discussion eq, but the tours that I host are always sponsored by Tora yes, but brackets are random (except a group tournaments where I said I’m asvance would be seeds), I even used to streamed the brackets to avoid people complain. Actually the only person who always complain when he participate is Theboy.
Also I don’t concentrate prize in a first place. Usually you will see top 8, top5…even top 10 I did Just to avoid the same people get all the prizes . You will note that I do 100/80/60 etc…some times equal prize first and second….lol not sure why you are blaming me. U8 plays 5-6 hours day that’s the only reason he can beat me.
Also I don’t concentrate prize in a first place. Usually you will see top 8, top5…even top 10 I did Just to avoid the same people get all the prizes . You will note that I do 100/80/60 etc…some times equal prize first and second….lol not sure why you are blaming me. U8 plays 5-6 hours day that’s the only reason he can beat me.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: December 02, 2024, 02:40:05 AM »
1st week thoughts.
26 players
49 games
Still very low participation, but is a start.
Some assumptions:
- fixed bugs and changed maps
- I would say 90% or more don’t even know this exists
- people don’t like 1vs1 competitive
- people don’t like to play other maps (even after the changes to get more friendly, and gow is on the list)
Let’s see how it will go for the second week.
Happy to hear suggestions.
26 players
49 games
Still very low participation, but is a start.
Some assumptions:
- fixed bugs and changed maps
- I would say 90% or more don’t even know this exists
- people don’t like 1vs1 competitive
- people don’t like to play other maps (even after the changes to get more friendly, and gow is on the list)
Let’s see how it will go for the second week.
Happy to hear suggestions.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: November 28, 2024, 02:58:55 PM »
*FIXED situation were some games not counting to the Mist Ladder.
It was detected everytime the random map was played on Borean Tundra the result did not count due to an error in the code. It was fixed but this map is replaced now. The games happened could not be added manually to the ranking.
*MAP POOL updates following the suggestions to keep the ladder more "map friendly".
All the maps now are played with one peon only starting mode
Borean Tundra - map removed
Bridge to Bridge Combat BNE - removed the archer/troll at starting unit and changed from medium to high resources
Garden of War Classic - no changes
Gold Separates East West - no changes
GoW Cataclysm - map removed
Hexed Valley - map removed
Plains of Snow BNE - map removed
Mine in the Center BNE - map added / high resources
Murky River BNE - map added / low resources
I will edit the current map pool on the topic as soon as possible.
Please let me know if you spot any bug, game non reporting , crash etc.
It was detected everytime the random map was played on Borean Tundra the result did not count due to an error in the code. It was fixed but this map is replaced now. The games happened could not be added manually to the ranking.
*MAP POOL updates following the suggestions to keep the ladder more "map friendly".
All the maps now are played with one peon only starting mode
Borean Tundra - map removed
Bridge to Bridge Combat BNE - removed the archer/troll at starting unit and changed from medium to high resources
Garden of War Classic - no changes
Gold Separates East West - no changes
GoW Cataclysm - map removed
Hexed Valley - map removed
Plains of Snow BNE - map removed
Mine in the Center BNE - map added / high resources
Murky River BNE - map added / low resources
I will edit the current map pool on the topic as soon as possible.
Please let me know if you spot any bug, game non reporting , crash etc.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: November 28, 2024, 03:32:12 AM »
UPDATES
Completed
*Fixed the situation that all games played were not showing on the ranking
In progress
*Its seems few games still did not count, under investigation
*Map pool update bringing to only 5 maps, only 1 peon starting mode, more friendly maps (keeping gow classic of course)
Notes for future
*To have Mist ranking actually showing in the ladder board in-game (not sure if possible)
*To hides or to move to another place the historical ladder gamers in the website, keeping only the active season
*To to announce the next Season 1 ladder (after this BETA) map pool at least 1 week in advance
*To discuss with community/old players the current tags (GM/ master etc) based on the ladder seasons ou to create new tags
Please keep testing, telling what is looking bad and what we can do to make it better?
Some changes take a bit time, so be patient please.
And for last we are not Blizzard, we are listening and we are trying (please have in mind its impossible to make everyone happy).
Cheers,
Duda
Completed
*Fixed the situation that all games played were not showing on the ranking
In progress
*Its seems few games still did not count, under investigation
*Map pool update bringing to only 5 maps, only 1 peon starting mode, more friendly maps (keeping gow classic of course)
Notes for future
*To have Mist ranking actually showing in the ladder board in-game (not sure if possible)
*To hides or to move to another place the historical ladder gamers in the website, keeping only the active season
*To to announce the next Season 1 ladder (after this BETA) map pool at least 1 week in advance
*To discuss with community/old players the current tags (GM/ master etc) based on the ladder seasons ou to create new tags
Please keep testing, telling what is looking bad and what we can do to make it better?
Some changes take a bit time, so be patient please.
And for last we are not Blizzard, we are listening and we are trying (please have in mind its impossible to make everyone happy).
Cheers,
Duda
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Bring back Ironman Ladder
« on: November 27, 2024, 10:17:56 AM »
Oh yes , this is what I meant.
To have mist ladder showing in the in game ladder.
I don’t have this answer. I will ask if is possible.
To have mist ladder showing in the in game ladder.
I don’t have this answer. I will ask if is possible.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Bring back Ironman Ladder
« on: November 27, 2024, 10:01:57 AM »
I did comment that to have the website ladder showing in the in-game records. Not sure if possible and its secondary for the moment.
Let’s try to focus improving the primary things first like Good maps? Ranking working ? Games listing / updating in the website ? No crashes?
All the above should be easy to have working 100%.
Let’s try to focus improving the primary things first like Good maps? Ranking working ? Games listing / updating in the website ? No crashes?
All the above should be easy to have working 100%.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: November 27, 2024, 08:50:20 AM »
Hmm what I understood is should be always that
Spot 1 player
Spot 2 player
spot 3 obs
Thanks for testing . I will reach him and mistral
Spot 1 player
Spot 2 player
spot 3 obs
Thanks for testing . I will reach him and mistral
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: November 27, 2024, 06:45:55 AM »
Hey Eq thanks for your feedback.
To be honest is exactly what we need here, a serious constructive discussion. You disclosed several important points.
I agree with some of them.
Let’s heard from more people to see if we can find a direction that make the majority enjoy this competitive game mode and use this BETA / short season for adjustments.
To be honest is exactly what we need here, a serious constructive discussion. You disclosed several important points.
I agree with some of them.
Let’s heard from more people to see if we can find a direction that make the majority enjoy this competitive game mode and use this BETA / short season for adjustments.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: LADDER ON - Beta season
« on: November 27, 2024, 01:17:00 AM »
Just to clarify , all those maps including the settings are automatically included in the random map system. You don’t need to do anything , just host the random.pud map from your random folder.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Bring back Ironman Ladder
« on: November 26, 2024, 09:54:18 PM »
Btw this ladder was from the old Ironman ladder (random maps). The only difference is the rank system. Not sure what the changes you would like to see