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Re: ATTN Russians
« Reply #360 on: November 10, 2024, 04:48:52 PM »
Russia will keep some Ukraine territory.. ill guess 10%. Ukraine will get 10% of their territory back i think.

Ukraine will not be allowed to join nato for Decades.

U.S. and Russia will probably give Ukraine money to rebuild and gives Ukraine ability to collect/sell valuable resources (oil, natural gas, etc..). So Ukraine will make lots of money, and U.S./Russia will get small percentage of it.

Everyone makes sacrifice, but everone benefits long term.

should be very good path to move forward for everyone.

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Re: ATTN Russians
« Reply #361 on: November 10, 2024, 04:58:47 PM »
Russia will keep some Ukraine territory.. ill guess 10%. Ukraine will get 10% of their territory back i think.

Ukraine will not be allowed to join nato for Decades.

U.S. and Russia will probably give Ukraine money to rebuild and gives Ukraine ability to collect/sell valuable resources (oil, natural gas, etc..). So Ukraine will make lots of money, and U.S./Russia will get small percentage of it.

Everyone makes sacrifice, but everone benefits long term.

should be very good path to move forward for everyone.


Speculation all speculation just like pro Ukrainians speculated the 2023 summer counter offensive would smash the russian defences with NATO trained armies too bad they got clapped pretty hard.

What about zelnseky ?
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« Reply #362 on: November 10, 2024, 09:18:21 PM »
yes. im just speculating... but my speculations are based on observations i've made about the parties involved and things they've said.

zelensky doesn't have many options. he is at the mercy of the Trump administration. he pretty much has to do what he's told. Trump will try to give him an honorable off ramp that makes him look as good as possible.

zelensky will likely be assassinated as time goes on...by the people of Ukraine or U.S. intelligence. His supporters will claim Russian involvement but it won't be true. i doubt he will live to see old age.

all speculation.
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« Reply #363 on: November 11, 2024, 02:38:18 AM »
Yeah I don't think trump winning is positive for the Ukrainian war effort , one thing I don't get is the level of worship and hatred around trump by Americans some see him as this hero of the country or something and the other sees him as Austrian painter 2.0 XD.

And yeah I don't expect zelensky to live after the war its either russia claps him or his own people or he gets shot inside a car by the CIA just like south Vietnam leader
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« Reply #364 on: November 12, 2024, 10:53:09 AM »
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These damn russkies are still going.
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« Reply #365 on: November 29, 2024, 07:24:49 PM »
I feel like the U.S. is using Ukraine as a puppet. A pawn.

the u.s. can't directly fight Russia without direct threat of nuclear war.

The u.s./nato clearly want to continue their progress east towards Russia.

What better way than to gain the support of their border country Ukraine and set up a situation where you indirectly wage war.. Or get Ukraine to fight the war on your behalf?

The Western nations seemingly made the decision to funnel  weapons of war inito Ukraine to resist the Russian invasion.

They've apparently implemented extremely harsh sanctions already, cut off almost all access to global financial markets, and seem to be leaning towards dealing a final economic blow to russia.. stop buying oil/gas.

I'm not happy to say it... But i think we're closer to nuclear war today than we were last week.

I'd put the probability of a nuclear conflict closer to 30% to day. probably 10% or less last week.
I mean most of this is definitely correct, until you get to the 30% chance of nukes.  That seems extremely high when NATO has said they're not getting directly involved.  The innocent folks at NATO simply want to turn Ukraine into Russia's Iraq war, that's all.  (Hope the Ukrainians don't mind!)


would you say NATO is directly involved after the use of ATACMS?