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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Mistral on April 27, 2021, 12:53:48 AM
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Hello all.
So Triggers editor is finally released.
You can download it there:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1835oYQ9QHBWedx5jbohFVtRTb4--2cDK/view?usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1835oYQ9QHBWedx5jbohFVtRTb4--2cDK/view?usp=sharing)
current last version - 1.6.0
And there you can find some small video tutorials:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_g_-txdcII3c9aObJnF3A (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_g_-txdcII3c9aObJnF3A)
just open War2 Trigger Editor playlist
maps created with help of this program:
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6243.0 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6243.0)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6331.0 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6331.0)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6332.0 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6332.0)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6413.0 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6413.0)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6688.0 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6688.0)
p.s. people who make this thing possible:
@Lambchops - created plugins framework - i used some functions in War2Mod.
@fois - helped with code - and i used some of his functions a lot in War2Mod.
@Available - helped with War2 Triggers Editor prog and testing of mod.
@Oragorn - my best slave friend that helped me with tests of War2Mod.
@iL - the best admin ever.
@Szwagier - helped with tests.
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BetaBetaBeta...
In its current state, it is too difficult for beginners and not entirely clear even for advanced guys.
Beta testing with u8 and others who were interested, would be not too difficult?? :thinking:
Why don't you wait, GRRR, till we finish well at least the 'advanced' description?
especially, GRRR, if you do not want to do that by yourself. :-X GRRRR!!!
P.S.: Great job anyway :clap:, but you made me so angry with that, really...
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P.S.: Great job anyway , but you made me so angry with that, really...
He not only made you angry...
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Mistral knows how to contain a large share of genius, while having an even greater share of indifference to his projects. As a result, the product cannot satisfy basic needs, namely: there is no ease of use; no normal structure; everything is done, I'm not afraid of this word, "shitty" and "through the ass", and what particularly complex triggers do - it will not become clear until Ragnarok.
Attempts to stop the release, or to reschedule the release, were unsuccessful.
This is extremely sad ... but the project could become really very powerful in its kind, and even the Best, among the programs for Warcraft2.
P.S. All of the above does not detract from Mistral's genius. Does not detract from the enormous value of his merits.
I'm just disappointed that he could at least try to make his Best Creation much more beautiful, crisp, clear.
P.S.S. “Not everything, of course, is given by the gods to one person, You know how to win, Hannibal; but you don’t know how to use victory ”. (c) Maharbal
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All I can think is OMG how many hours of work have you put in?
HUGE amount of work :thumbsup: Really good work :thumbsup: Totally amazing results. :thumbsup:
Thanks @Mistral for all the effort you put into doing this for the community. You are a champion!
:thinking:Why don't you wait, GRRR, till we finish well at least the 'advanced' description?
especially, GRRR, if you do not want to do that by yourself. :-X GRRRR!!!
. As a result, the product cannot satisfy basic needs, namely:
I think what both of you are trying to say is:
"THANKS MISTRAL, you deserve a well earned rest after all the MONTHS of work you have put in for us. Later I want to make a more user friendly GUI, will you please help me with that?"
Then if you're lucky he might forget how rude you are and help.
Getting a working format together for a stable release is amazing. Make your own effing GUI (or nah?).... or better still use the perfectly decent one he already made and make a few maps.
It's free gift of someone's hard work. It's a beta. Use it. Test it. Make helpful suggestions. Be grateful.
Fucking amazing work Mistral :chuckisthemuscle: Well Done! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Mistral is a GOD, he did finally make a tool required for a warcraft 2 remastered version.
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Updated to version 1.1
(changed download link in main post message)
added custom names to Values and Flags
custom names not saved in *.pud files, only in *.w2tr, cause need econom place in pud maps.
fixed default value in msgbox
fixed text in msgbox
GlobalVals number changed from 256 to 16
now GlobalVals not changes between game save/load
its working with war2mod v1.71 and higher (currently on backup server)
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update to v1.1a
fixed give orders trigger
working with war2mod 1.74 and higher (currently on backup)
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Updated to 1.3.1
and there is some example triggers and maps included here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/12EjCFn0lgVJfRZmoqj8qGOm356DlJ5S2/view?usp=sharing
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I tried doing a few basic triggers like setting player money and I saved them to a .pud. I then loaded triggers from the .pud and I can see that they were saved but when I play the level, the triggers aren't doing anything. Is there something else I could be missing?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51717055039_0a016cc539_c.jpg)
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if you play on server then u need to host game from War2Mod channel (red text TRIG will be added to game name)
if you want play on singleplayer you first need instal our War2 that have plugins support
then you join server 1 time and can leave
when you joined server plugin will download and will be in war2 folder (named war2mod.w2p) you then put it into plugins folder
then you make triggers folder in plugins foder
you can use triggers editor to save triggers not into PUD but just in file
name those file humanNN.w2tr or orcNN.w2tr or custom.w2tr
where NN is number of mission from campanign (from 01 to 14) (xhuman xorc for BDP campanigns from 01 to 12)
and custom is applied for all custom maps
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released new triggers editor v1.3.9.1
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updated to 1.4
some bugs fixed
added "not in region" trigger
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War2 Triggers Editor
So what is function the War2 Triggers Editor? sorry Im new here
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basically creating pseudo byte-code and put it into PUD map to be hosted on server and playing some custom maps with it
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basically creating pseudo byte-code and put it into PUD map to be hosted on server and playing some custom maps with it
Oww I see that, maybe that i cant create room map. So this is fix connection too?
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@Mistral
Love the new version Mistral.
Would you be able to do a write up on the functions on the new version?
Most players haven’t a clue how Dessert Strike works would be great to list the latest commands and different features.
I think players can list what the cost is per unite and what the best strats are.
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i have some videos on my channel
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_g_-txdcII3c9aObJnF3A/videos (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF_g_-txdcII3c9aObJnF3A/videos)
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updated to 1.4.1
fixed some bugs
added trigger sort units not in region
added trigger get center of region
added trigger remove terrain in region
added new smart dota 1.4 map to triggers examples
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updated to 1.5
fixed some bugs
added trigger build goldmine anywhere
added trigger build forest anywhere
added trigger build forest gold price
added trigger player is controled by human/computer/nobody
added trigger create unit in VALUE XY and VALUE AMOUNT
added trigger use ships speed upgrade for towers speed
added trigger change custom mission objective
added trigger change custom units name
added move units to VALUE XY trigger
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@Mistral - where is the option to turn the lumber bug on/off? I thought I saw it there before.
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wat is lumber bug exactly?
i think i never had any triggers for it lol
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The thing where you command a peon to chop wood, make a lumber mill and you get the +125 wood after it's done building even though the peon never chopped anything. Thought it was in there, all good if not.
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this thing never was in triggers
this is old DOS version trick - it was fixed in war2 BNE by original blizzard
basically bug was like this - peon receiving PEON_HARVEST_WOOD flag when he was actually sended to chop
not even need to touch tree at all, u can even send peon to chop someting in fog of war on other side of map.
so basically this is flag that checked if needed to give res, but peon cannot enter into lumbermill with just it, he also need PEON_LOADED flag.
but there is no check if peon loaded when he is ALREADY INSIDE and this is happens exactly when he finished build lumbermill or TH.
so u basically can get +100 free wood when build TH or +125 when build lumbermill (or builded TH and already had mill)
and fun fact - it was working every single time.
so PRO players in DOS version on 1996-99 always sended peon to chop before building first TH or lumbermill or expand TH.
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Thanks. Will download user created maps and play some. Been replaying the war2 campaign lately (still on tides of darkness then will finish dark portal before doing the user created campaign)
Are there more maps than the 5-6 examples you posted for single play?
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no there is only those maps for now as i know
at least those is only maps that ME created (maps with triggers)
and i dunno about maps of OTHER players but it seems like there is still noone, no one created any maps unfortunately
i still waiting for days when someone creates custom maps
also u can check some super cool custom campanigns that me and my friends created
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.0.html
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6639.0.html
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no there is only those maps for now as i know
at least those is only maps that ME created (maps with triggers)
and i dunno about maps of OTHER players but it seems like there is still noone, no one created any maps unfortunately
i still waiting for days when someone creates custom maps
also u can check some super cool custom campanigns that me and my friends created
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.0.html
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6639.0.html
Exactly what I needed! Thanks man. Been enjoying doing the campaign lately. MP is way too hectic for a 10 something year old rusty me.. lol
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Hi Mistral, want to thank you for this great tool and have some suggestions. :thumbsup:
I think a random function would be very useful, Set Value = Rand function (ex, Random number between x and y) and also Amount = Rand (example Timer between 5 and 20 seconds).
Second suggestion, Starcraft maps can embed sound files (at ~30% of the original size), as the scm is just an MPQ container file, would it be possible to embed sounds into the trigger file?
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so for random i thinked about it but cannot implement for now
for sounds
PUD maps are basically a file with set of sections
triggers being stored is old unused OILM section which was used for oil distribution in old alpha war2
but size of this section is depends of map size so max amount of bytes that triggers can be is for 128x128 map = 16k bytes
so this is not possible to put custom sound files and etc u just not have any place for even 1 sound
it is possible to add more sections i think but then maps becomes uncompatible with original map editor and even puddraft too
if u open and save map in them then all other non supported sections being removed from map file
p.s. lol also imagine the lag when someone joins lobby and needs to download 50mb map with tons of cursed custom sounds :) :) :) :)
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Yeah it migt be a problem :)) I didn't notice the trigger maps are embedded without separable files for online play, makes sense.
I was thinking of Sniper CTF or bomb plant/defusal with random groups of NPC units moving around the map to create danger for both teams, as well as runes so you must send spotters first, with each round you can buy fire throwing grunts, additional spotters(submersible peon), demo team etc, or air strike (temporary battleship or catapult with 128 range and turtle missiles), etc, the random factor makes each round different as much as is possible, random terrain would be cool but maybe a bit ambitious.
I think random can be implemented another way (Hp of unit under some effect) but it's slow, you lose player slots and I don't know how reliable that method will be generally.
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By the way, it would be really nice to change the speed of "even faster" being the most popular selection.
For reference, fastest defaults to 13, even faster is 20. Something like 17 plays better, I think.
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there is trigger for changing fastest to anything other
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so for random i thinked about it but cannot implement for now
for sounds
PUD maps are basically a file with set of sections
triggers being stored is old unused OILM section which was used for oil distribution in old alpha war2
but size of this section is depends of map size so max amount of bytes that triggers can be is for 128x128 map = 16k bytes
so this is not possible to put custom sound files and etc u just not have any place for even 1 sound
it is possible to add more sections i think but then maps becomes uncompatible with original map editor and even puddraft too
if u open and save map in them then all other non supported sections being removed from map file
p.s. lol also imagine the lag when someone joins lobby and needs to download 50mb map with tons of cursed custom sounds :) :) :) :)
Starcraft 1 remastered works this way actually, Ed.
I've encountered some of these Korean maps, like Special forces with a lot of new remastered features and they're slow to download. Even consider you have to download them from Korea server so it would be even slower for foreign people.
So basically, starcraft maps can get really big as well to download. It may turn a curse and slow in lobby to get.
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there is trigger for changing fastest to anything other
:))
Problem is nobody joins fastest games, or thet just leave - the trigger works perfectly fine.
Speed at 18 is nice but not too fast, and really nice animations.
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there is trigger that allows to change game speed in game using numpad+ and - like in singleplayer
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Yeah but once game starts nobody should change speed by accident or on purpose IMO, even the host. I hope in next version you could set both EF and F trigger (as EF is more popular by far).
I always hit minus key by accident because I place hall/command center on the 0 hotkey (also peon/probe/peasant is one key over), so it's now completely disabled when game window is active.
GOW with pathfix + rally + speedfix is really great introduction to triggers, but people don't want tower control and won't join fastest games.
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Unrelated question: is there a known method to turn Zeppelin into a transport with triggers or otherwise? I guess if you morph a transport into a Zeppelin and then back after loading it might work :thinking:
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turning transport into flying unit have better chances than making zeppelin cary units
in this game those 2 units (human transport and orc transport) have many super cursed logics very hardcoded into game code
so u cannot just simply change zeppelin cuz there will be many logic transport code not working for it
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new release
added trigger 124 unit not allowed to damage other unit
added trigger 125 Repeat next code Value0 times
added trigger 126 end of Repeat block
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so im in the built in editor, what the fuck is the step value refer to in the upgrade properties???
Hello all.
So Triggers editor is finally released.
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are yall working on improving the onboarding of new users???
HD was recently discribed as trash 1/10 would not reccomend
and only way i got them to give it a go was coz they couldnt figure out how to login to gog
also its almost daily i see ppl stream war2, some have original copoy still
none are aware of combat edition. most are doing campaign
p.s. people who make this thing possible:
@Lambchops - created plugins framework - i used some functions in War2Mod.
@fois - helped with code - and i used some of his functions a lot in War2Mod.
@Available - helped with War2 Triggers Editor prog and testing of mod.
@Oragorn - my best slave friend that helped me with tests of War2Mod.
@iL - the best admin ever.
@Szwagier - helped with tests.
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queston,
i been messin around with an idea
but i cant even fool around trying it out in game
ive changed a units stats but they do not apply ingame
i havent tried to train them, but i take off 1 peon only and have units at the start
ive opened it in a couple of different editors and it shows what i changed just doesnt affect the units in game
a radical rework of knight/paladin!
anyone wanna amuse ourselves and try this out?
im pretty sure its a broken as fuck ideas lol. so knight has to stay the same or it will 100% be broken, and it will just be paladin.
i toyed around tryna bring axer/archer with a rush. they are just so shit. and ive seen enough air lately its like cant do nothing with range or it fucks air. maybe atk type armor tweaks where it brings em up vs melee but no vs air idk
oh, if anyone is into sc2 and maps, i have full war1/2 assets that i found.
been back 5 days, after gone 10+ years because my mouse was always shit ingame.
the HD fixed the mouse for me and i really enjoy the resolution upgrade!
thanks those who worked on it!
sorry im bored no one is on ;(
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sorry im bored no one is on ;(
i just talked to you online, I told you i beat van to get my belt and you laughed. Here is you video of the replay.