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Server.War2.ru / Re: Here's my plan to save warcraft 2 from obscurity

« on: April 12, 2025, 05:15:58 PM »

the only 2 things i dislike about remaster that ruin quite a bit the experience is that Menu hotkeys are missing, and cursor is not instantly set up to use Chat, so basically you have to move around and waste time each time you have to play a new game. Including to set up all options to make a new game.

Its still rusty in that sense but war2 combat does all of that well.

Aside of that, menu and options within it dont have hotkeys so its also a waste of time to move around the menu buttons as well. It saves up a lot of time between each game.

Hope it gets fixed up as it is for War2 classic.

If you got enthusiastic about advertising, I'd appreciate that you can let people know about these mods on gamebanana. Its been around 6 years since making them, but very little people try them out or give any feedback (aside of negative one that people tend to give more often)

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Cartography & Custom Maps / Re: Maps with human rebalance stats

« on: April 12, 2025, 02:15:50 PM »

Since orcs are very powerful late game with the bloodlust, the idea is to make humans a proper early game race with some minor unit stat changes and make Human vs. Orc win rates closer to equal than now, while not making the game feel too different than the original, and while still retaining Orc's late game power, by applying these changes to some of the most played melee maps.

Here are the changes for Humans:
Footman : +1 Basic Damage, +1 Armor
Knight : +1 Piercing Damage (extends to Paladins)
Paladin : +2 Armor (so that upgrading to Paladins is actually useful)
Ranger : +1 Basic Damage (not the base Archer)
Dwarven Demolition Squad : 520 Gold and 200 Wood (down from 700 Gold and 250 Wood)
Blizzard spell upgrade : 1500 Gold (down from 2000 Gold)
Mage : Start with free Flame Shield spell as well as Fireball

Here are the changes for Orcs:
Ogre Mage : +50 Wood more expensive (800 Gold and 150 Wood, also not the base Ogre)
Berserker : +1 Basic Damage (not the base Axethrower)
Raise Dead spell upgrade : 500 Gold and 50 upgrade time (down from 1500 Gold and 100 upgrade time)
Death Knight : Start with free Whirlwind spell as well as Death Coil


The maps are:


Garden of War,
All You Need,
Forest Trail,
Forsaken Isles,
Great White North,
Mud in Your Eye,
Plains of snow,
Rose Petal,
Schwartzwald,
Taiga.


You can find the maps in the attachment.
Let me know if you want any other maps, or if you want some changes to make the winrate more equal.


Edit: Edited the rebalance maps.

would you mind if can make a mod with your proposed rebalance changes ?

it may be fun

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Here's my plan to save warcraft 2 from obscurity

« on: April 11, 2025, 09:09:45 PM »

you made some big statements. Sorry but couldn't hold the laugh, lol !

How are you supposed to convince people to play original warcraft 1 ? That game is even more broken than War2 in some ways:

1) archers are machine guns
2) catapults can one shot half armies. Can even kill *sometimes* to melee units like Knights, even on close range
3) Water elementals/Demons are killing machines by just spamming mages/warlocks

If you want something else aside from Gow/Chop games, you can always try out my mods or the ones from Ed gorod. At this point, we have got over 25 mods.

Ed gorod has around 5 already. All of them of course available from this forum. My own are on gamebanana.

You can also support/watch/play Wargus. That community is also small and always have liked their tenacity to expand Warcraft 2 capabilities.

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I made another post in this forum about bloodlust fest + OrcCraft II game balance. You saw, there were no comments. People are accustomed/satisfied with how the game it is. At least, a good portion of loud people about it.

I know there may be several casual players who may want something else, yet they usually dont make themselves loud enough.

I have known how cursed bloodlust may be, even before watching any multiplayer game before 2018, yet I have given my little contribution to the game with mods, being gifts to the world, besides almost nobody cares.

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War2 remaster could get more games, showmatches, tournaments because way more fair chance for Humans to be played, yet its up to people to motivate on it.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: The Human Campaign Challenge

« on: April 09, 2025, 07:45:21 AM »

Has anybody successfully beaten the Great Portal level of the human campaign without the gyphon rush? I'm trying to figure out if it is even possible to set up a transport without being immediately destroyed by the death knights.

you refer to mission Human14 on Tides of darkness. Yes its very possible and played through here, even with a mod that makes base game difficulty even harder:

https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=P4vHxGSmrF8

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Strategy & Replays / Re: Looking for high level/interesting replays for youtube channel

« on: April 02, 2025, 08:26:25 PM »

this is the little contribution i can do, the ones can remember that had ups & downs

MINI BGH games highlighted games:
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=7gtckmbOUO8
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=XzYAeOx2mOs
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=hgzuK8jWMok
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=5n8ezGh_P50
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=5bZholv3IKQ
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=-11LzgKDT9w
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=rHWRV1SMfeQ
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=v-Zitf7ucZs
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=Oh0vpEOJXRg
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=-JpWbRmWwNc
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=qNf3SB2L_jk
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=n3zLqLXm_sE
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=Zk8s_aq_vK4

https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=Hiu6ceHu7Jg
https:// www.youtube. com/watch?v=IqXNF4kh4Ko

showmatch game 2 vs he-man:
https:// youtu. be/gQybLQ1Ek8Q?t=879

playlist for war2 shorts, mostly highlights in short videos. Tried to clip some micros across the years:
https:// www.youtube. com/playlist?list=PLrHhAf18bMUNs7P5KaGi59pT0qL71-_YV

This forum screw the links up to Youtube, so need to remove empty space for .com and www

if find more stuff, may post it if you interested in

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Let's save warcraft 2 - this is a long one

« on: April 02, 2025, 04:15:00 PM »

I have quite a couple of nice matches that are outside of the obvious and most regular common Gardens of War map being played around.

Even though they are not replays at all but all points of view. You just have to check both my war2 multiplayer - war2 tournament playlists and may find out something you like. In past weeks have had some fun up and down games in MINI BGH map, which is 32 x 32 size. Only few people play it but still fun for being the smallest war2 map size.
Had another well fought game against He-man game 2, you can also find it in war2 multiplayer playlist as He-man or He man.

This is a little contribution that can do, but people here almost entirely just play Gardens of war

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Strategy & Replays / Re: Looking for high level/interesting replays for youtube channel

« on: April 02, 2025, 06:55:45 AM »

hey there thank you for that content, hope your channel keeps growing up and people enjoy your casting

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Server.War2.ru / Re: 1vs1 Warcraft Remaster Tour (bnet server)

« on: April 01, 2025, 09:30:59 AM »

got them, thank you.

it may be a fun time

thanks for the oportunity to play around

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Server.War2.ru / Re: 1vs1 Warcraft Remaster Tour (bnet server)

« on: April 01, 2025, 08:51:58 AM »

hi, any source to see current maps ?

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Strategy & Replays / Re: Looking for high level/interesting replays for youtube channel

« on: March 31, 2025, 08:36:20 PM »

i can check em out either way what's the link?

dannyldd[/member]]http://www.youtube.com/@dannyldd

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Server.War2.ru / Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?

« on: March 31, 2025, 05:17:06 PM »

that is cool, i suppose the balance changes wouldn't be too hard to implement, i never even noticed they were in the game.

I think you'd have to default the settings in the game to get people to use them, which is why im just hoping blizzard gives us multiplayer features so we can all play the game in one place. although it'd be a shame to leave all the hard work people have put into modding this game over the last many years

There're plenty more loudly people in not only this community but out there that will strongly defend default game balance, besides it means only playing Orcs 99% of time.

If you got Remaster rebalance changes set by default, probably you would either see people leaving or complaining about it. It's good to have it as an option, but if people truly had intention to play a way better game balance that actually allowed Humans to be playable, then people would pick it up. I've seen no people interested in it over past 4 months.

In Remaster, you have no choice, you either take it or simply dont play Multiplayer... But it also affects Single player there as well.

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If by miracle, you mean Blizzard exports all the rest of remaining positive features from War2 classic (Combat) into Remaster without bugs, I think there're plenty of people who still could NOT play. As far as I was told, Russians CANNOT buy the game by themselves. I mean Remaster. They have to get it gifted in order to install so then play.

Don't know why this happens but they just didn't allow russian people to play new game version from the beginning, by even allowing to buy it.

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Strategy & Replays / Re: Looking for high level/interesting replays for youtube channel

« on: March 31, 2025, 04:40:42 PM »

i've several points of view on my youtube channel - war2 multiplayer or war2 tournament playlists in case you're interested in or any useful in this case

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Server.War2.ru / Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?

« on: March 31, 2025, 04:37:49 PM »

well everything about remastered is better outside of the multiplayer features, so basically everything. graphics, balance changes

If you're asking for the very only official War2 Remaster rebalance patch ever released by Blizzard, this is actually available in War2Combat - Multiplayer - game option in Lobby.
There's a small dropdown list there that allows to select "Blizzard" option which is the same rebalance set up by Blizzard on Remaster.
This option is 4 months old and i've seen literally nobody talking or playing with it, which makes no sense to me because it brings an actual chance to competitively play with Human race and win in multiplayer. People are stucked instead with the bloodlust fest from default game balance.

If you refer to War2 Remaster AI graphics, I was thinking to import War1 remaster graphics on the future. At least getting few contrasts from Remaster and classic, buildings seem almost the same to me. This can be done, even though I see 0 interest from anybody in community to make this done. I could do it and its possible, still.

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The only 2 options I saw that are better in Remaster rather than War2 Classic (Combat) is to have health/mana bars above units and 12 units selection.
At least the health/mana bars can be fixed up and it was said by one of War2Combat developers, but 12 units selection is way too hard because its hardcoded to many functions. So this would be pretty much the only thing that cannot be imported here.

Yet, if you're looking up for other fancy quality of life features in War2 classic (Combat), there're several mods already for this game version that were made since 2019 and another guy known as Mistral, which have several enhancements for the game. Not only audio or visuals, but things like:

-improved AI
-rally points
-repairable catapults
-game timer
-hotkeys program
-widescreen
-actual game support, instead of Remaster which has none. And neither war2classic had ever support by Blizzard
-community members which still make multi/singleplayer custom maps quite unique.
-Over 20 mods already for War2 (not just tweaking some map with certain unit restrictions & default AI).

The content is there but people dont simply give attention to, yet thanks in advance if you're interested in any of them.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?

« on: March 30, 2025, 06:24:21 PM »

im hoping blizzard has eventual plans to add some multiplayer features to the remastered version of the game

otherwise i wonder how hard it'd be to rebuild this version with the changes?

do you refer to import war2 remaster features in war2 Combat ?

Can you please elaborate what changes are you referring to ? Please dont hesistate to elaborate

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Mods & Development / Re: How can I test custom version of war2mod?

« on: March 26, 2025, 09:30:08 AM »

Hello everybody!

I have discovered sources of war2mod in mistral's repository here: https://github.com/Mistral-war2ru/War2Mod-Server and found that some functions I can try to change to work faster (all functions doing auras just iterating all units. Instead we can store for each cell which unit is in it and instead iterating all units just check nearby cells. So if auras have range 5 we can check only 11 * 11 = 121 cells, that will work faster if we have at least 122 units. And the same we could do with autoheal)
(It's all started when I making some map with triggers found that it was too laggy and unplayable when there are many units with auras so I wanted to know why, and when I saw the code as competive programmer it blows me up)
Also I am thinking on doing some AI improvments.

So this is my question, how can I join the server with my custom build of war2mod (I understand that I will drop in all games this way) or any other way I can play games and check it working? And if it will work faster to change the original version?

very nice !! your contribution is well appreciated !! Anything to improve War2 AI is very nice !