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Title: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 23, 2015, 08:16:35 PM
http://www.twitch.tv/masteryamon121/v/22098463 (http://www.twitch.tv/masteryamon121/v/22098463)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 23, 2015, 09:53:03 PM
2v5 was very gg. he overextended himself like spb tends to do
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 23, 2015, 09:53:37 PM
mass expand without the res/ability to defend them
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 25, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Yamon - I am not going to watch a collaboration of games and analyze it in any great detail. Give me ONE game. One that doesn't exceed 20-25 minutes but incorporates a lot of standard/typical situations and I'll give you some pointers.

As it pertains to this video, I am not going to sit and take notes for you for a 70 minute video, especially one where the first game is you doing a gimmick strategy. I'll give you a few short tips: Cut out the fat and stick to the basics. Become really good at the fundamental strategies, rushing, 1 rax powering, dualing, tower wars, catting duals, counter dualing, etc.

As for that 9/s9 dual, I was planning on telling you not to Rax there because they can chop you, and sure enough I called it. Instead, put your smith there and put your rax to the left of the mill at 9, in such a manner that the mill is one space south of the rax (so peons don't pop and the easier building to kill isn't exposed to 3  potential melee attackers)

Also, you're VERY slow. Change that. Get showdog's APM program?

show a real game, no gimmick strats and stop playing slow
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 26, 2015, 08:16:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoVTWSgZTk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNoVTWSgZTk)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 26, 2015, 11:41:47 AM
what is showdogs apm program?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 26, 2015, 11:44:50 AM
ftp://ftp.war2.ru/war2/utils/War2Observe.zip

if you dont build, you can see how many units people have and see their resources

if you do build it will tell you your apm (actions per minute)

it crashes war2 if you have multiple core processor and dont set observe and war2 to the same core.  ctrl-alt-del, select the program, adn then select go to process.  right click, set affinity.  do this for both war2 and observe
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 26, 2015, 08:41:44 PM
Yamon, you skyped me something about how you're tier 2 and need to figure out how to get to 1. after skimming your video lol you're nowhere near what anyone would consider tier 2, and this undeniable fact should motivate you. it's not like you have a job, a girlfriend, or even many friends. to that end... there is no excuse, except for your low iq, as to why you're not the best. so get on it
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 26, 2015, 09:02:49 PM
i've been coaching him in 2v2 games. it's indirect coaching. basically we ally, i lose within the first 5 mins, then make him 1v2 the remaining enemies and blame it on him if he loses. he hasn't lost many. i feel like this strategy is extremely productive.

so yamon, you're welcome.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 26, 2015, 09:38:13 PM
the problem is that he already failed right off the bat in the series by having to TRY vs medivh....let alone getting owned while doing so

those games were almost harder to watch than those of tk getting pwned by a newb (smeagol) in a newb map (pb)

ahhh yes... i just owned four scrubs with one truth.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 26, 2015, 09:52:49 PM
Wow, rude.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: hop on October 27, 2015, 09:23:02 AM
in typical swift fashion, he's even the best at being rude.  4 in 1?  i can only dream of offending people so efficiently.  must have really high apm.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 12:14:57 PM
Anyone remember the time I got swift to withdraw $50,000 cash from his parents retirement account? That shit was hilarious
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 02:12:25 PM
Yeah? Want to play double or nothing?

so I posted $58,250 or something. We'll round it down to $50,000 to keep it simple. So from here we each take turns doubling the prior amount from the other person until one of us can't match. So you're up, post 100k.

Call my bluff again :D
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 27, 2015, 02:16:15 PM
Yeah? Want to play double or nothing?

so I posted $58,250 or something. We'll round it down to $50,000 to keep it simple. So from here we each take turns doubling the prior amount from the other person until one of us can't match. So you're up, post 100k.

Call my bluff again :D

lol
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 02:17:33 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 02:19:35 PM
Anyone remember the time I got swift to withdraw $50,000 cash from his parents retirement account? That shit was hilarious

remember the time you said you could beat newb smeagol and got schooled 11-0 by him?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
Anyone remember the time I got swift to withdraw $50,000 cash from his parents retirement account? That shit was hilarious

remember the time you said you could beat newb smeagol and got schooled 11-0 by him?


remember the time you made a fake account lenka and would have cybersex with yourself in "the chamber"

be honest. do u remember that
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 27, 2015, 04:49:02 PM
"remember the time you said you could beat newb smeagol and got schooled 11-0 by him?"
"remember the time you made a fake account lenka and would have cybersex with yourself in "the chamber"

be honest. do u remember that"

^One of the funniest exchanges I've seen on this forum in a while LOL!
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 04:49:53 PM
also i only posted 2700, so if we're doubling what we posted i gotta post 5400
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 04:51:24 PM
Anyone remember the time I got swift to withdraw $50,000 cash from his parents retirement account? That shit was hilarious

remember the time you said you could beat newb smeagol and got schooled 11-0 by him?


remember the time you made a fake account lenka and would have cybersex with yourself in "the chamber"

be honest. do u remember that

lenka was a real player, and she had nice... ah nevermind

respect.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 04:52:03 PM
also i only posted 2700, so if we're doubling what we posted i gotta post 5400

We're doubling what the other person posted, and seeing as I posted last - you need to double what I posted.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 04:54:22 PM
i dont have access to my parent's bank account unfortunately. i moved out like 7 years ago.

you have an unfair advantage
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
So your running theory is that i live with my parents and they let me pull out tens of thousands of dollars from their accounts?

also, how old are you?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
31

and i dont know if "let" is the right term
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:00:16 PM
i think im 31.. fuck just typing that out made me realize how old i am.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 05:04:13 PM
so you moved out when you were 24? I've been on my own nearly 10 years, i moved out when I was 17.

And here we are now, one of us is a stud and the other is married to an ugly stripper... who would've thought.

also, can you guess which one you are?

Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:31:56 PM
you never told me you married an ugly stripper
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:32:27 PM
why would you even admit to that?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 05:33:27 PM
because im a piece of shit

i might even go so far as to show her topless to a bunch of people on the internet
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:34:55 PM
Do it. I won't judge you
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 05:39:10 PM
Nah, she's too ugly and her tits are quite unimpressive. i would be an idiot, with a shitty job, if I had done it.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:43:21 PM
Swift making up fake sexual partners again. Can't even post her ugly unimpressive breasts. Owned again
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 27, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
Omg this shit's hilarious. The exchange I commented on earlier was the funniest part, but the after stuff was pretty humorous too.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 27, 2015, 05:47:49 PM
Swift is pretending like he moved out of his parents house when he was 17. That is true but what he is not telling you is that he moved out of his parents house and into their guest bedroom above the garage
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 27, 2015, 05:47:54 PM
Swift making up fake sexual partners again. Can't even post her ugly unimpressive breasts. Owned again

i totally owned u on the $ one, but you owned yourself on the girlfriend/wife one
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 27, 2015, 06:10:28 PM

Anyone remember the time I got swift to withdraw $50,000 cash from his parents retirement account? That shit was hilarious

remember the time you said you could beat newb smeagol and got schooled 11-0 by him?


remember the time you made a fake account lenka and would have cybersex with yourself in "the chamber"

be honest. do u remember that

LOL


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Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 27, 2015, 06:13:25 PM
I know Ryu that was one of the most classic funniest exchanges I've seen on this forum, I burst out laughing. LOL
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Winchester on October 27, 2015, 07:51:38 PM
wasn't tks ex wife a stripper, coulda sworn i saw that mentioned on Occult few years back.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 27, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
she's still his wife.  and yes he posted naked pics of her.  which made him rolling along with swift during those posts really nuts lol
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2015, 04:45:34 AM
The way swift bad mouths people about money and women makes me think he may be Floyd Mayweather in real life.
Lol.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 28, 2015, 07:29:39 AM
LOL!!! Nice comparison Tora hahahaha.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 11:49:57 AM
The way swift bad mouths people about money and women makes me think he may be Floyd Mayweather in real life.
Lol.

i would never be comfortable with being that short, or bla... nevermind
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 28, 2015, 11:51:15 AM

The way swift bad mouths people about money and women makes me think he may be Floyd Mayweather in real life.
Lol.

Whoa. [emoji106]

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Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2015, 01:01:04 PM
This is Swift

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1iqF-wUM0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT1iqF-wUM0)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 01:33:05 PM
yeah, but can you just tell me 10 festival champions that you have beat?  just ten. thats all i ask. just ten
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
lol,
I dont doubt you 1 of the best.

You should enter my next singles tourney. Or doubles for that matter, it would make all the other players jump for joy.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 01:35:41 PM
im young, im fly, im flashy, im rich. damn life is good
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 28, 2015, 01:36:03 PM
The way swift bad mouths people about money and women makes me think he may be Floyd Mayweather in real life.
Lol.

i would never be comfortable with being that short, or bla... nevermind

Anyone know what swift was going to say here, before he decided not to say it, but forgot to hit backspace?  Any guesses?  Hmm this is kind of like playing Wheel of Fortune along with the folks on TV!
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
im young, im fly, im flashy, im rich. damn life is good
Tell me you gonna give Manny a reamatch?
You know all your fans are dying to see 1.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 03:24:51 PM
The way swift bad mouths people about money and women makes me think he may be Floyd Mayweather in real life.
Lol.

i would never be comfortable with being that short, or bla... nevermind

Anyone know what swift was going to say here, before he decided not to say it, but forgot to hit backspace?  Any guesses?  Hmm this is kind of like playing Wheel of Fortune along with the folks on TV!

Lol Swift is a racist.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 03:25:20 PM
Comparing Swift to Floyd Mayweather gives Swift's intelligence too much credit.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: shesycompany on October 28, 2015, 04:45:51 PM
thx blid :)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
hahaha oh god, i KNEW hassan would pop into this thread with the race card when i was writing that.

:o
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 28, 2015, 06:18:06 PM
LOL! Tora doesn't need to beat a festival champion to prop up his ego Swift. Just keep working on those boxing techniques and you can make a comeback no one expected and get shit tons of money! ;)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 28, 2015, 06:23:58 PM
comeback? no one expected? what
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 06:25:17 PM
i just want u to tell me more about your ugly stripper wife honestly .. you've caught my attention
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 28, 2015, 06:28:44 PM
Wow you really aren't too sharp are you Swift. We are talking about you being Floyd Mayweather and when I said boxing technique it should have been very simple to figure out. Floyd is retired(you) keep practicing without the media knowing bro. You can make a huge unexpected comeback and have another giant hugfest!
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 28, 2015, 06:38:39 PM
Here Swift let me indulge you with one of my "sadistic fantasies" ;). Actually Swift could never be Mayweather because I highly doubt he could fight for shit. Here is how a fight between me and Swift would probably go down:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4)
Fast forward to 2:46 as embedded videos on site don't work with start at I guess.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
race card

Lol you're an actual sincere racist.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:46:21 PM
Here Swift let me indulge you with one of my "sadistic fantasies" ;). Actually Swift could never be Mayweather because I highly doubt he could fight for shit. Here is how a fight between me and Swift would probably go down:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4[/url])
Fast forward to 2:46 as embedded videos on site don't work with start at I guess.


Rome was a thoroughly badass series.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:47:53 PM
Here Swift let me indulge you with one of my "sadistic fantasies" ;). Actually Swift could never be Mayweather because I highly doubt he could fight for shit. Here is how a fight between me and Swift would probably go down:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g89LSzDuuQ4[/url])
Fast forward to 2:46 as embedded videos on site don't work with start at I guess.


Rome was a thoroughly badass series.

we agree on something you worthless fucking excuse for a human retarded being
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:48:44 PM
Fuck off baby raper.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:50:14 PM
Imagine how epic Rome would have been if they had been able to stretch season 2 out to like 3-4 seasons like they planned instead of cramming all that shit into one.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:50:20 PM
at least i dont rape dead babies you necropedo
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:50:58 PM
i didnt even know there was a season 2. d/ling that shit now
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:51:15 PM
I've never had sexual relations with a dead person of any age, let alone a baby. Perhaps if I had joined the US Armed Forces I could have availed myself of the opportunity, but alas.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:51:33 PM
i didnt even know there was a season 2. d/ling that shit now

It's good but the second half is obviously rushed, especially if you know the history.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:54:28 PM
Octavian is the most epic dude on the show, and also in history.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:55:53 PM
he's definitely gay on the show. huge pole smoker.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
he's definitely gay on the show. huge pole smoker.

That's why he's epic.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
he has a cute little wife with smokin ta ta's and only wants to rage fk her. he has sexuality issues.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:57:34 PM
he has a cute little wife with smokin ta ta's and only wants to rage fk her. he has sexuality issues.

And yet he founded the Roman Empire (spoilers). Makes you think.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 07:59:08 PM
there's no doubt homos get shit done when they're not smokin pole. some homos any way. not the wrist flippers. just the ones who feel like they have to prove their worth due to the stigma attached to homosexuality
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
there's no doubt homos get shit done when they're not smokin pole. some homos any way. not the wrist flippers. just the ones who feel like they have to prove their due to the stigma attached to homosexuality

All the dudes in Ancient Rome had sex with other dudes you retard, because they weren't pussies afraid of a little dick and man ass like yourself.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 28, 2015, 08:00:40 PM
Julius Caesar was taught how to fuck by the king of Bithynia.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 08:01:26 PM
im not afraid of a little dick. its the big ones you gotta watch out for.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 28, 2015, 09:13:19 PM
he has a cute little wife with smokin ta ta's and only wants to rage fk her. he has sexuality issues.
Are you sure that wasn't his mother?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2015, 09:15:47 PM
he has a cute little wife with smokin ta ta's and only wants to rage fk her. he has sexuality issues.
Are you sure that wasn't his mother?

yes he got married in the 2nd season i think (i forgot i did see it) but he did fk his sister too
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Thomas29 on October 28, 2015, 09:19:42 PM
Lol Niiice! Man! Sweeet!
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: xXxSmeagolxXx on October 28, 2015, 10:13:19 PM
Yeah I loved the show Rome. Fuckboi is right it was supposed to be like 4 seasons originally and span even more of the history than it did. Instead they took some out and condensed the rest down into a rushed 2nd season. There was some pretty bad ass shit in the 2nd season too, but it wasn't as strong as the first and the ending seemed kind of rushed. Epic shit overall though.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: hop on October 28, 2015, 10:50:59 PM
this thread is awesome.

gn: TK you're a filthy baby raper.
TK: at least I'm not a dead baby raper like you.
gn: I've never raped a dead person, even a baby.  isn't that rome show awesome?
TK: yeah I love that show. what a cool show!
gn: it's an awesome show and you're afraid of gays!
TK: i'm only afraid of the well endowed gays, and I love that show so much!
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 07:46:01 AM
http://www.clickhole.com/clickventure/fight-glory-rome-2096 (http://www.clickhole.com/clickventure/fight-glory-rome-2096)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 11:46:43 AM
i may not have a job or a girlfriend, two things that drain you and leave you totally deprived of energy. that way there i can actually put effort into doing something that's worth something. which is why i'm pursuing a PhD in economics to educate people like swift and save the country from poverty, the same poverty that has a huge hold on my town, preventing me from ever getting a job. And what's interesting, after reading one of book i can easily say i know more about the economy than anyone on this forum. Because of instead of having a lot of money flipping houses and getting blowjobs from skanks, i can actually like, leave my mark on the world. Like Colonel Chamberlain or Abaraham Lincoln. Because i am an common sense idealist. Praise be. The only thing that you can say about yourself kyle, is that you know the one aristrocracy, but you use it for evil, not for good. What kind of a Christian goes on a forum on the internet and just puts their good friends dirty laundry out in the air to humilate them for no reason? You're the one that converted me to Christianity, but you're far from Christ like my friend. I think you really need to sort out your priorities, or you're never going to be anything but a basic bro with a lot of cash.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 11:56:17 AM
teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo. also, stop blaming your inability to get a job on the economy and instead stop relying on someone else to employ you.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 11:58:43 AM
teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo. also, stop blaming your inability to get a job on the economy and instead stop relying on someone else to employ you.
lol you don't adhere to american economics? your entire career is dependant on the free market system. and not only will i come out much smarter, i'm already way ahead of the curb.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:01:04 PM
You don't know shit about economics, plenty of people on this board alone took sophomore level micro and macro economic courses on the way to their degrees and know 10x what you know at this given point.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:03:26 PM
you can take a course on anything, it doesn't mean you understand it. That's why people call a degree a piece of paper. Lets start you off easy, without googling or even with, what is the definition of economics?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:04:17 PM
lol you don't adhere to american economics? your entire career is dependant on the free market system.

This is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 12:09:08 PM
I'm just going to guess. In my words I would define economics as the eb and flow of  currency within any particular group
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:09:59 PM
lol you don't adhere to american economics? your entire career is dependant on the free market system.

This is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

lol. buyers and sellers markets don't excist in other countries. Other countries have centralized control over their housing markets. Reality investment is a Prime example of what you Can't do outside of a free market. Countries like Russia or China have policies that make purchasing property a nightmare. Because they believe you only need one house. Not only that, but buying a HOUSE in those countries, specially at your age, even with the trustfund you inherited is extremely difficult. Centralized control dictates what you can buy and not buy depending on the countrie's judgement as to what you need, or what their economy's needs are.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 12:10:27 PM
lol you don't adhere to american economics? your entire career is dependant on the free market system.

This is the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

Re-read the post you made where you told us you married An ugly stripper, you may reconsider
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:10:31 PM
I'm just going to guess. In my words I would define economics as the eb and flow of  currency within any particular group
economics has nothing to do with any currency what-so-ever.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:11:54 PM

lol. buyers and sellers markets don't excist in other countries.  Other countries have centralized control over their housing markets. Reality investment is a Prime example of what you Can't do outside of a free market
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 12:13:47 PM
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Spoiler
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Christ’s love fills your heart, and you quit the Roman army so you can follow him and help spread his teachings. In honor of your new life you change your name to Paul Torius, and are later known as the Apostle Paul. That’s you on the right in the picture. The following spring, when you and Antonius get married, Jesus is the officiant.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:14:11 PM
I like how you're talking about Buyer's Markets and Seller's Markets, you real estate magnate you, and also about good ol' facts about how they don't exist in any other countries (lol)

Also, I love doing "Reality" investments
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 12:15:09 PM
I just googled the definition and it pretty much exactly has everything to do with currency. Either directly or indirectly
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:17:02 PM
I'm just going to guess. In my words I would define economics as the eb and flow of  currency within any particular group

Asking for the definition of the subject in the process of trying to prove his superior understanding of it is something children do in arguments, especially so when they don't know shit about the subject and just became fascinated with it two days prior and read a couple paragraphs.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
I like how you're talking about Buyer's Markets and Seller's Markets, you real estate magnate you, and also about good ol' facts about how they don't exist in any other countries (lol)

Also, I love doing "Reality" investments

buyers and sellers markets can't excist because it's not a free market. Because in this instance we're not talking about prices, like we would be in a free market, we're talking about what is allocated via the governments policies. And if you didn't know, America is the first free market in the history of the world, countries where you can do realestate investment like mexico, or some parts of africa, have adopted OUR economic systems. So saying you don't adhere to american economics, is totally ridiculous.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:19:50 PM
buyers and sellers markets can't excist because it's not a free market. Because in this instance we're not talking about prices, like we would be in a free market, we're talking about what is allocated via the governments policies. And if you didn't know, America is the first free market in the history of the world, countries where you can do realestate investment like mexico, or some parts of africa, have adopted OUR economic systems. So saying you don't adhere to american economics, is totally ridiculous.

you are dumber than evil~ryu, and by a large margin
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:20:03 PM
I'm just going to guess. In my words I would define economics as the eb and flow of  currency within any particular group

Asking for the definition of the subject in the process of trying to prove his superior understanding of it is something children do in arguments, especially so when they don't know shit about the subject and just became fascinated with it two days prior and read a couple paragraphs.
Typically i would agree with this. Had I known a single person in my entire life who actually could tell you the definition. Other than myself. This is a rare instance, and I picked economics for a very specific reason. Ignorance abroad. Our country is on the brink of extinction because of it.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:21:40 PM
buyers and sellers markets can't excist because it's not a free market. Because in this instance we're not talking about prices, like we would be in a free market, we're talking about what is allocated via the governments policies. And if you didn't know, America is the first free market in the history of the world, countries where you can do realestate investment like mexico, or some parts of africa, have adopted OUR economic systems. So saying you don't adhere to american economics, is totally ridiculous.

you are dumber than evil~ryu, and by a large margin

you can take a quote, and you can say it's dumb. but you can't say why?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:24:16 PM
I did not say the quote is dumb, I said you're dumb. However, the quote is dumb too.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 12:28:57 PM
I just googled the definition and it pretty much exactly has everything to do with currency. Either directly or indirectly
nah bro including currency makes the definition too limited.  economy is all exchange of goods/currency/favors/anything between humans
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:30:23 PM
did you know before modern society, we had two options. Socialism or Monarchs. In both systems, one person or a few burecrats dictated where materials would be used. And for the record, the real definition of economics is: The organized management of where materials will be used in a society. As I was saying. Before modern society, each society had a very small populace. Due to this, centralized control made sense. But in a modern society, with millions of people, centralized control is Impossible. Not impossible in a sense were you can't MAKE IT WORK with MILLIONS of economists working on one portion of the economy, but this is totally ineffective regardless. The point i'm trying to make, is our founding fathers UNDERSTOOD economics better than almost any other group of people in the history of mankind. How and why? Because people were actually EDUCATED back then, not like our joke of "school" in todays societies. Captalism is the uber economic system. It is COMPLETELY unchallenged and it is the NEWEST system in the history of mankind. You do not understand what it's like outside of a free market. You were born and raised in the United States, and you make a captalist's living and are living the American Dream. So again, i reiterate, " I don't adhere to American economics" is so ridiculous.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 12:35:26 PM
Read first and last sentence, didn't want to be caught reading the stupidity.

Just as a favor though, I'll help you out on this: A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism. This should be common sense though, sorry it went over your head.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:35:35 PM
I just googled the definition and it pretty much exactly has everything to do with currency. Either directly or indirectly
nah bro including currency makes the definition too limited.  economy is all exchange of goods/currency/favors/anything between humans

yes economics can also be applied in situations without currency whatsoever, it's essentially the best possible way to do things, in an organized fashion. And Economics regarding a system, is the organized use of a countrie's materials. So it has a fundentmtal defitition, and a more specific one as well. Never one without the other. But defining the word Economics has actually been a huge intellectual struggle.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:36:55 PM
Read first and last sentence, didn't want to be caught reading the stupidity.

Just as a favor though, I'll help you out on this: A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism. This should be common sense though, sorry it went over your head.

No that was already understood given your narrative, but it's not something that was worth pointing out. You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 12:37:36 PM
yamon you shouldn't read one book and suddenly take yourself to be totally enlightened.  not that i think you'd change your mind anyway seeing as how pumped up you are about capitalism and america, but really.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 12:42:57 PM
I know its a bit premature, but I feel it would be very appropriate for all of us to address yamon as Dr. Zacheriah from this point forward
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:43:12 PM
yamon you shouldn't read one book and suddenly take yourself to be totally enlightened.  not that i think you'd change your mind anyway seeing as how pumped up you are about capitalism and america, but really.
lol i've done far more than read one book. but the lack of ethuisasm for captalisism is actually just pure ignorance. It's simple stuff. You do not look at the principles or proponents of an economic system. You look at the results. The argument i presume you would present, is an argument that is so old and tired, that it has been defeated 1000x over in America. Why? Because people look at the results of each system, and it's crystal clear, there is no system that can hold a handle to free enterprise. The standard of living in America , even for me, is of different magnitude than that in countries with centralized control. And it has been proven, that socialism or other centralized control systems do not appeal to intellectuals for their results, people think it's a moral issue. And this narrative can be heard anywhere on the internet and in dozens of books, and by the mouths of dozens of ignorant "intellectuals". Captalism is neither moral or immoral, humane or inhumane. It's a tired and defeated argument that keeps coming up due to ignorance.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 12:45:22 PM
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf (http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 12:45:55 PM
Dr. Zacheriah if you need a 2v2 how ally let me know. I can train you some more if need be.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:50:57 PM
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book [url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url])

Lol. America is far from the nation with the most natural resources. America is far from the nation with the most land, or largest workforce. We are the most powerful country for one reason, one reason only. Captalism. Not because we steal resources. In fact, Russia has the most natural resources in the world. How are they doing? And to say we steal resources from other countries. I mean, I don't know if i can trust a book from a neoliberal to tell me whether or not america steals anything. People thought the Iraq war was over oil. We didn't drill a drop. But whether or not we steal anything is totally irrelevant. If you look back on history, stealing stuff from other countries would be considered a good thing. Why? Because hell if we can, why not do it? And look at America's intregity. Many people have been against such engagements as vietname, desert storm, or our involvement in Salmalia, But wtf we were doing there? Feeding people. I think a country that will risk the lives of it's children, to help another nations children, might be entitled to some resources. And we don't "exploit labor" from other countries. They get paid  more working in america's outsource than they would in a regular job in their country. But i agree i think america should not outsource as much and hire it's own people. But the only reason companies are outsourcing to begin with, is government regulation in the workforce, and if our enterprise was 100% free, we wouldn't be outsourcing at all and we would always be able to get a job without such formalities as a college education in cosmetology to work a factory job
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 12:59:12 PM
Dr. Zacheriah if you need a 2v2 how ally let me know. I can train you some more if need be.
i'm looking for some 1s if you want to practice with me
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 01:12:09 PM
At work, but tomorrow for sure
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

The popular economic theories and interpretations that you will be taught in pursuit of your degree are simply from a certain point of view, and they're not objective. It's a perspective on how to interpret and study economic systems. I do not have to believe in such theory to be a capitalist in practice, just as much as one doesn't have to adhere to modern American Christianity to live their life, or to be a christian for that matter (lol).
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

The popular economic theories and interpretations that you will be taught in pursuit of your degree are simply from a certain point of view, and they're not objective. It's a perspective on how to interpret and study economic systems. I do not have to believe in such theory to be a capitalist in practice, just as much as one doesn't have to adhere to modern American Christianity to live their life, or to be a christian for that matter (lol).

You're both fucktards using different definitions of "adhere." Yamon is more correct by the specific definition of the word since your economic activity is dictated far more than the economic conditions of American society than whatever method of economic organization you personally think is optimal, you are correct that one doesn't have to specifically think capitalism is great to act as a capitalist. However it does make you a rather large hypocrite, especially since you seem to vacillate between "capitalism ftw! I'm better than you because I have money" and "capitalism actually kinda sucks I just do it to make money lol, Jesus saves folks" depending on who you're trying to paint yourself as superior to at the time.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 01:26:03 PM
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book [url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url])

Lol. America is far from the nation with the most natural resources. America is far from the nation with the most land, or largest workforce. We are the most powerful country for one reason, one reason only. Captalism. Not because we steal resources. In fact, Russia has the most natural resources in the world. How are they doing? And to say we steal resources from other countries. I mean, I don't know if i can trust a book from a neoliberal to tell me whether or not america steals anything. People thought the Iraq war was over oil. We didn't drill a drop. But whether or not we steal anything is totally irrelevant. If you look back on history, stealing stuff from other countries would be considered a good thing. Why? Because hell if we can, why not do it? And look at America's intregity. Many people have been against such engagements as vietname, desert storm, or our involvement in Salmalia, But wtf we were doing there? Feeding people. I think a country that will risk the lives of it's children, to help another nations children, might be entitled to some resources. And we don't "exploit labor" from other countries. They get paid  more working in america's outsource than they would in a regular job in their country. But i agree i think america should not outsource as much and hire it's own people. But the only reason companies are outsourcing to begin with, is government regulation in the workforce, and if our enterprise was 100% free, we wouldn't be outsourcing at all and we would always be able to get a job without such formalities as a college education in cosmetology to work a factory job


You are extremely fucking retarded and practically everything in this post is false and/or unsubstantiated.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 01:27:54 PM
did you know before modern society, we had two options. Socialism or Monarchs.

This is maybe the dumbest sentence ever written on this forum, which says a lot since Swift has 366 posts on here, which probably average about 500 sentences each on account of his frequent meltdowns.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
Socialism didn't exist before international global capitalism which didn't exist before colonialism, idiot.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 02:05:48 PM
did you know before modern society, we had two options. Socialism or Monarchs.

This is maybe the dumbest sentence ever written on this forum, which says a lot since Swift has 366 posts on here, which probably average about 500 sentences each on account of his frequent meltdowns.

no one cares what you say. go away
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 02:05:58 PM
You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

The popular economic theories and interpretations that you will be taught in pursuit of your degree are simply from a certain point of view, and they're not objective. It's a perspective on how to interpret and study economic systems. I do not have to believe in such theory to be a capitalist in practice, just as much as one doesn't have to adhere to modern American Christianity to live their life, or to be a christian for that matter (lol).

You're both fucktards using different definitions of "adhere." Yamon is more correct by the specific definition of the word since your economic activity is dictated far more than the economic conditions of American society than whatever method of economic organization you personally think is optimal, you are correct that one doesn't have to specifically think capitalism is great to act as a capitalist. However it does make you a rather large hypocrite, especially since you seem to vacillate between "capitalism ftw! I'm better than you because I have money" and "capitalism actually kinda sucks I just do it to make money lol, Jesus saves folks" depending on who you're trying to paint yourself as superior to at the time.

1. It's obvious that Yamon was arguing that I adhere to modern american economic studies by my practice of capitalism, while I was stating that I don't adhere to the studies in respect to them being absolute or dogma. This isn't something you needed to point out, as like I said it was obvious.  It's what I was explaining to him. Moreover, the context in which surrounded "adhere" in my posts clearly signifies my use of the word, in three separate posts - including the very first one he responded to. It was obvious from the get go that I was talking about the studies and theories that people place over the system as a whole, and that I do not take them astruths. To that end, he is completely wrong as he was unable to pick up on that I was attacking the study of economics theory when looked at through the modern lens within economic studies in the US.
You're 0-1

2. I am not talking about which system is optimal, nor how moral capitalism is or isn't. You're going off subject completely.  Instead I am talking about my take on how our modern economists/society/teachings interprets how economies function and the methods used to regulate, improve, and correct economic conditions within a system. You're 0-2.

3. I'm 100% anti-capitalism 24-7, and completely against it. Anything I say in the contrary is a troll, and I also don't think I am better than anyone due to bank accounts or any other such materialist/shallow measurement that others might go by. I am also not interested in whether you believe this or not, and I will continue to fuck with you and act to the contrary of my values when talking to you, and a few others... because you're jealous you are not a business mogul like myself ;)
0-3 for not seeing that the apparent ridiculousness and excessive contradictions are undoubtedly overplayed joking
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 02:09:04 PM
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book [url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf[/url])

Lol. America is far from the nation with the most natural resources. America is far from the nation with the most land, or largest workforce. We are the most powerful country for one reason, one reason only. Captalism. Not because we steal resources. In fact, Russia has the most natural resources in the world. How are they doing? And to say we steal resources from other countries. I mean, I don't know if i can trust a book from a neoliberal to tell me whether or not america steals anything. People thought the Iraq war was over oil. We didn't drill a drop. But whether or not we steal anything is totally irrelevant. If you look back on history, stealing stuff from other countries would be considered a good thing. Why? Because hell if we can, why not do it? And look at America's intregity. Many people have been against such engagements as vietname, desert storm, or our involvement in Salmalia, But wtf we were doing there? Feeding people. I think a country that will risk the lives of it's children, to help another nations children, might be entitled to some resources. And we don't "exploit labor" from other countries. They get paid  more working in america's outsource than they would in a regular job in their country. But i agree i think america should not outsource as much and hire it's own people. But the only reason companies are outsourcing to begin with, is government regulation in the workforce, and if our enterprise was 100% free, we wouldn't be outsourcing at all and we would always be able to get a job without such formalities as a college education in cosmetology to work a factory job


You are extremely fucking retarded and practically everything in this post is false and/or unsubstantiated.

actually it's all true. And if you are going to claim such things, then provide evidence. Because i don't say anything that I do not know is true or not, and i don't say my opinion. This is not an opinion based thing. So if that's what you have to say, and you're apparently so much more enlightened, enlighten me. Just kidding, i know you're not. You should be banned from this forum because your posts have no meat.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 29, 2015, 02:17:05 PM
So swift when do you plan to run for president.
That's all that's left for you right.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 02:20:19 PM
It would be really awkward when armed forces came to my door at the White House to seize my assets, considering it would be I who empowered them to do so.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 02:20:41 PM
Socialism didn't exist before international global capitalism which didn't exist before colonialism, idiot.

(http://trolledbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/91191.jpg)
because when this guy shows up, we should take him seriously
by the way, socialism was around before Jesus.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 02:21:42 PM
Socialism didn't exist before international global capitalism which didn't exist before colonialism, idiot.

([url]http://trolledbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/91191.jpg[/url]) because when this guy shows up, we should take him seriously

Look at that board. That guy has won a lot of Interent arguments.  He must be right about a lot of things.  That probably includes such things as capitalism predating socialism.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 02:22:48 PM
Also, Yamon, you don't know what neoliberalism is.  That book is critical of neoliberalism; it is not a neoliberalist book.  You support neoliberalism.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 02:25:25 PM
Also, Yamon, you don't know what neoliberalism is.  That book is critical of neoliberalism; it is not a neoliberalist book.  You support neoliberalism.
oh i see. regarldess they're all old arguments that hold no weight anyway. This is not a new thing.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 29, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
It would be really awkward when armed forces came to my door at the White House to seize my assets, considering it would be I who empowered them to do so.
Do you know how to cheat the irs? And get anyway with it?(No foreign bank accounts please.)
I got a huge tax bill this year.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 02:28:19 PM
1. It's obvious that Yamon was arguing that I adhere to modern american economic studies by my practice of capitalism, while I was stating that I don't adhere to the studies in respect to them being absolute or dogma. This isn't something you needed to point out, as like I said it was obvious.

You like to say "its obvious" as a copout, but its not actually that obvious. You are talking past each other using two different definitions of the word "adhere," and I explained these two different definitions and how they manifest in your respective arguments.

Further, the means by which you don't "adhere to theories" is not really substantiated or explained. "Adhere" is a word that implies a certain amount of fidelity in action to a theoretical ideal, so how do you "not adhere" to "American capitalism?" Where does your economic activity depart from the precepts of American capitalism as it materially exists and as you yourself admit you materially practice it?

  It's what I was explaining to him. Moreover, the context in which surrounded "adhere" in my posts clearly signifies my use of the word, in three separate posts - including the very first one he responded to. It was obvious from the get go that I was talking about the studies and theories that people place over the system as a whole, and that I do not take them astruths.

That's not really what "adhere" means though, and Yamon's use of the word "adhere" is closer to the actual meaning of the word, so he's right to call you out on that and question just how much you "adhere" to alternative economic schools of thought, as I am now. You are using it as a stand in for "believe in" or "find convincing," but this is not typically what the word means. For example, if I say "I do not adhere to the law of gravity" the more obvious reading of this sentence would mean that the law of gravity does not apply to me, rather than that I do not actually believe that the law is valid or true.

You're 0-1

What's this mean Swift?

2. I am not talking about which system is optimal, nor how moral capitalism is or isn't. You're going off subject completely.

I never claimed that you did, except insofar as you confuse the meaning of the word "adhere" in this context to mean your personal preference or opinion, so I think you're the one going off subject now.

You're 0-2.

What are these numbers Swift?

3. I'm 100% anti-capitalism 24-7, and completely against it.

You're obviously not, this is a lie Swift.

Anything I say in the contrary is a troll,

You can't shill for capitalism and engage in rhetoric that reproduces the ideological foundation of capitalism and then just say it is "trolling" and doesn't count Swift, that's not how language works. When you spend days on end talking about how you're better than people on the basis of having more money and being a capitalist, you don't get to write one sentence that says "I was trolling" and completely erase the actual meaning of your language. If it is sincere trolling (it's not), that could be considered, but to claim that the effects of engaging in such "trolling" for days on end are nullified with a few seconds worth of disclaimers is intuitively false for anyone who understands the basics of language, rhetoric, and general human thought.

and I also don't think I am better than anyone due to bank accounts or any other such materialist/shallow measurement that others might go by.

So you are just a cynical liar then, since you have claimed to think so many, many times on this forum in recent weeks.

I am also not interested in whether you believe this or not,

If this were true you would not take the time to explain yourself Swift, so this is another obvious lie from you. This kind of petty posturing is very transparent, just so you know, no one actually believes you "don't care" when you write this much bullshit justifying yourself.

and I will continue to fuck with you and act to the contrary of my values when talking to you, and a few others... because you're jealous you are not a business mogul like myself ;)

Well, whether you are merely a cynical, dishonest liar, or a rapacious superficial classist and misogynist on top of that, you must be very proud and pleased with yourself either way. Good job!

0-3 for not seeing that the apparent ridiculousness and excessive contradictions are undoubtedly overplayed joking

Still don't know what these numbers mean.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 02:29:03 PM
by the way, socialism was around before Jesus.

No, it objectively was not, and you are a complete idiot.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 02:34:44 PM
by the way, socialism was around before Jesus.


No, it objectively was not, and you are a complete idiot.


(http://trolledbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/91191.jpg)
google it
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 02:45:08 PM
by the way, socialism was around before Jesus.


No, it objectively was not, and you are a complete idiot.


([url]http://trolledbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/91191.jpg[/url])
google it


I'm not an atheist.

Please show me an example of socialism existing before Jesus Christ, as you claimed.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
by the way, socialism was around before Jesus.


No, it objectively was not, and you are a complete idiot.


([url]http://trolledbot.net/shared/post_media/images/full_sized/91191.jpg[/url])
google it


I'm not an atheist.

Please show me an example of socialism existing before Jesus Christ, as you claimed.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=early+socialism (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=early+socialism)

But here i'll even help you cheat. Socialism is in the bible.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 03:42:28 PM
haha, top results on yamon's link:

History of socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism)
Wikipedia
The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social ...
‎Origins of socialism - ‎Marxism and the socialist movement

socialism: The Early Theorists - Infoplease
www.infoplease.com (http://www.infoplease.com) › ... › Political Science: Terms and Concepts
Socialism arose in the late 18th and early 19th cent. ... Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that were similar to later socialism, the first theorist who may properly be called socialist was François Noël Babeuf, who came to prominence during the French Revolution.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 03:45:07 PM
haha, top results on yamon's link:

History of socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url] ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url])
Wikipedia
The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social ...
‎Origins of socialism - ‎Marxism and the socialist movement

socialism: The Early Theorists - Infoplease
[url=http://www.infoplease.com]www.infoplease.com[/url] ([url]http://www.infoplease.com[/url]) › ... › Political Science: Terms and Concepts
Socialism arose in the late 18th and early 19th cent. ... Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that were similar to later socialism, the first theorist who may properly be called socialist was François Noël Babeuf, who came to prominence during the French Revolution.


He's really fucking stupid.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 03:47:05 PM
haha, top results on yamon's link:

History of socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url] ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url])
Wikipedia
The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social ...
‎Origins of socialism - ‎Marxism and the socialist movement

socialism: The Early Theorists - Infoplease
[url=http://www.infoplease.com]www.infoplease.com[/url] ([url]http://www.infoplease.com[/url]) › ... › Political Science: Terms and Concepts
Socialism arose in the late 18th and early 19th cent. ... Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that were similar to later socialism, the first theorist who may properly be called socialist was François Noël Babeuf, who came to prominence during the French Revolution.


it says it plain as day. MODERN socialism. I'm talking about the origins of socialism. Learn to use da google friends. You guys are supposed to be gradauted intellectuals? what the fuck did you get on your papers? Gold stars?
(http://api.ning.com/files/LCjSsx421tSovOBvbWpfmluyKbEImk5uTB7QFuGC*jod0bLudWsoo7uR-hBw0IhnloAAA8YjmcvWFLPe9K-EzG17t5wAortO/greatjob628x353.jpg)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 29, 2015, 04:02:53 PM

buyers and sellers markets can't excist because it's not a free market. Because in this instance we're not talking about prices, like we would be in a free market, we're talking about what is allocated via the governments policies. And if you didn't know, America is the first free market in the history of the world, countries where you can do realestate investment like mexico, or some parts of africa, have adopted OUR economic systems. So saying you don't adhere to american economics, is totally ridiculous.


you are dumber than evil~ryu, and by a large margin


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Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:03:43 PM
if you actually look you can find that all sorts of cilivizations from B.C. battled against communistic and socialistic ideals. Sparta being the most famous.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
haha, top results on yamon's link:

History of socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url] ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url])
Wikipedia
The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social ...
‎Origins of socialism - ‎Marxism and the socialist movement

socialism: The Early Theorists - Infoplease
[url=http://www.infoplease.com]www.infoplease.com[/url] ([url]http://www.infoplease.com[/url]) › ... › Political Science: Terms and Concepts
Socialism arose in the late 18th and early 19th cent. ... Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that were similar to later socialism, the first theorist who may properly be called socialist was François Noël Babeuf, who came to prominence during the French Revolution.


it says it plain as day. MODERN socialism. I'm talking about the origins of socialism. Learn to use da google friends. You guys are supposed to be gradauted intellectuals? what the fuck did you get on your papers? Gold stars?
([url]http://api.ning.com/files/LCjSsx421tSovOBvbWpfmluyKbEImk5uTB7QFuGC[/url]*jod0bLudWsoo7uR-hBw0IhnloAAA8YjmcvWFLPe9K-EzG17t5wAortO/greatjob628x353.jpg)


Please cite a specific example of socialism, either theory or action, before the time period when Jesus Christ was alive, as you claimed.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
if you actually look you can find that all sorts of cilivizations from B.C. battled against communistic and socialistic ideals. Sparta being the most famous.
Haha what
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:04:40 PM
if you actually look you can find that all sorts of cilivizations from B.C. battled against communistic and socialistic ideals. Sparta being the most famous.

I did look, and it's not there. Please show us.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:04:59 PM
if you actually look you can find that all sorts of cilivizations from B.C. battled against communistic and socialistic ideals. Sparta being the most famous.
Haha what

It's like retarded anarchists who are like "actually, hunter gatherers were socialist" but in reverse.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:07:13 PM
haha, top results on yamon's link:

History of socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url] ([url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism[/url])
Wikipedia
The first modern socialists were early 19th century Western European social critics. In this period socialism emerged from a diverse array of doctrines and social ...
‎Origins of socialism - ‎Marxism and the socialist movement

socialism: The Early Theorists - Infoplease
[url=http://www.infoplease.com]www.infoplease.com[/url] ([url]http://www.infoplease.com[/url]) › ... › Political Science: Terms and Concepts
Socialism arose in the late 18th and early 19th cent. ... Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that were similar to later socialism, the first theorist who may properly be called socialist was François Noël Babeuf, who came to prominence during the French Revolution.


it says it plain as day. MODERN socialism. I'm talking about the origins of socialism. Learn to use da google friends. You guys are supposed to be gradauted intellectuals? what the fuck did you get on your papers? Gold stars?
([url]http://api.ning.com/files/LCjSsx421tSovOBvbWpfmluyKbEImk5uTB7QFuGC[/url]*jod0bLudWsoo7uR-hBw0IhnloAAA8YjmcvWFLPe9K-EzG17t5wAortO/greatjob628x353.jpg)


Please cite a specific example of socialism, either theory or action, before the time period when Jesus Christ was alive, as you claimed.


now since you're just trying to win an argument and aren't interested in anything to do with this, i will inform you that i was specifically talking about centralized control. But like much of what i talk about it is very uncommon knowedlge and even hard to find on the internet. But ancient societies have been battling communism, socialism empirism, monarchs and other since of centralized control. Here is a written example http://listverse.com/2014/10/03/10-communist-societies-that-predated-the-ussr/ (http://listverse.com/2014/10/03/10-communist-societies-that-predated-the-ussr/)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:08:06 PM
But like much of what i talk about it is very uncommon knowedlge and even hard to find on the internet.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:10:23 PM
now since you're just trying to win an argument and aren't interested in anything to do with this, i will inform you that i was specifically talking about centralized control.


Centralized control and socialism are not the same thing, and you said socialism specifically, not "centralized control."

But ancient societies have been battling communism, socialism empirism, monarchs and other since of centralized control.


Lol what is this shit. Are you Ben Carson?

Here is a written example [url]http://listverse.com/2014/10/03/10-communist-societies-that-predated-the-ussr/[/url] ([url]http://listverse.com/2014/10/03/10-communist-societies-that-predated-the-ussr/[/url])


None of these things are communist or socialist societies. Maybe you should use better sources than listicle clickbait websites.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:16:15 PM
But like much of what i talk about it is very uncommon knowedlge and even hard to find on the internet.


try to find me the meaning of the American flag.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:16:58 PM
But like much of what i talk about it is very uncommon knowedlge and even hard to find on the internet.


try to find me the meaning of the American flag.


It's my ass.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:18:31 PM
 there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag

One weird tip from an insane retard.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:21:49 PM
there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag

One weird tip from an insane retard.
what's your tip?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:22:39 PM
there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag

One weird tip from an insane retard.
what's your tip?

Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:26:14 PM
there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag
Haha this is so flagrantly false.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:28:57 PM
there are 100s of google results that are funded by anti-american organizations that will tell you that the flag means a bunch of ridiculous things, and one google link that will tell you the truth about the american flag
Haha this is so flagrantly false.

lol try it then
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:30:11 PM
Here you go:
(http://i.imgur.com/9wyxI74.png)

Now you try to find me the anti-American flag descriptions.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:32:16 PM
Here you go:
([url]http://i.imgur.com/9wyxI74.png[/url])

Now you try to find me the anti-American flag descriptions.

you just did find it, here is the real meaning: http://www.helpsaveamerica.com/meaning-of-our-flag.htm (http://www.helpsaveamerica.com/meaning-of-our-flag.htm)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:32:49 PM
Here you go:
([url]http://i.imgur.com/9wyxI74.png[/url])

Now you try to find me the anti-American flag descriptions.

you just did find it, here is the real meaning: [url]http://www.helpsaveamerica.com/meaning-of-our-flag.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.helpsaveamerica.com/meaning-of-our-flag.htm[/url])


Lmao
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:35:06 PM
Lol what?  "These damn anti-American fuckers, saying the stars represent the number of states, and that the colors represent valor and purity."
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 04:51:40 PM
Lol what?  "These damn anti-American fuckers, saying the stars represent the number of states, and that the colors represent valor and purity."
it's totally stripped of it's actual meaning. The war against Christianity in America and all over the world is raging. The red represents the blood of christ, the entire flag is Christian.
Here is the current Great Seal of the United States (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States_%28obverse%29.svg/600px-Great_Seal_of_the_United_States_%28obverse%29.svg.png)
Here is the one that was used when Thomas Jefferson was in office: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/FirstCommitteeGreatSealReverseLossingDrawing.jpg/800px-FirstCommitteeGreatSealReverseLossingDrawing.jpg)( it was a real bitch finding this because this is actually a big secret)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 04:58:34 PM
lol good lord
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 04:59:48 PM
You're out of touch with reality dude, sorry to say it but really.  You've just linked to a wikipedia image and then said it's a big secret.  Also, that's an artist's rendition of a Ben Franklin proposal that ultimately wasn't adopted.  The actual history is in the wikipedia article that you got the image from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States#First_committee
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 05:03:25 PM
You like to say "its obvious" as a copout, but its not actually that obvious. You are talking past each other using two different definitions of the word "adhere," and I explained these two different definitions and how they manifest in your respective arguments.

Further, the means by which you don't "adhere to theories" is not really substantiated or explained. "Adhere" is a word that implies a certain amount of fidelity in action to a theoretical ideal, so how do you "not adhere" to "American capitalism?" Where does your economic activity depart from the precepts of American capitalism as it materially exists and as you yourself admit you materially practice it?

I say it's obvious, because it actually is. The context surrounding my use of the words is more than enough to derive what I was talking about. Also, stop trying to twist things again. I said American Economics, not "American Capitalism". Two different things. One is an economic system, the other is the study of such systems. Anyway, I can't believe I have to break this down for you.

I said right in my first reply "i don't adhere to american economics"

Here's the definition of economics right off google: Economics is the social science that seeks to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services.

So let's replace the word with the definition: I don't adhere to American social sciences that seek to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services.

Obviously adhere is often referenced in action through belief, following, or practice of something particular. Lets add such in:

I don't believe in the American social sciences that seek to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services.
I don't practice the American social sciences that seek to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services
Pretty simple, argument over.

In other words, I don't adhere to the studies of economies presented by popular American interpretations. I do however adhere to capitalism itself.  I apologize that you're wrongfully equating the practice/belief of the study to the practice/belief of the system itself. Two very different things.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 05:04:40 PM
You're out of touch with reality dude, sorry to say it but really.  You've just linked to a wikipedia image and then said it's a big secret.  Also, that's an artist's rendition of a Ben Franklin proposal that ultimately wasn't adopted.  The actual history is in the wikipedia article that you got the image from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States#First_committee

but that's not really the truth is it now? it was actually used within Thomas Jefferson's office. And before that. Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Specially not such information as this. I simply used wikipedia to find the image, because it wasn't anywhere else. Now you can say i'm out of touch with reality, but i know better. Why? Because I TOOK THE TIME TO LEARN IT, and no one can take it away from me.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 05:08:20 PM
Yamon, you are delusional.  I'm going to check out of this discussion now.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 05:08:41 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.
I would let Gaia have her way with me.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 05:08:48 PM
This discussion is really good, please don't leave.

Reconsider?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
gj yamon. you beat blid.


edit: Dr. Zacheriah. my bad.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:10:05 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.
I would let Gaia have her way with me.

she's probably try to do it from behind too. that woman is vicious
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 05:10:33 PM
Yamon, you are delusional.  I'm going to check out of this discussion now.

i can show my sources as to where i learned this, but i don't think you'll appreciate it very much. I went looking specifically for that image for like 30 minutes in referrance to what i've learned. What do you think i just randomly found an image and said something about it? I can't make this stuff up. Labeling me delusional is damaging for anyone who wants to listen to what i say and learn from it. Do you know even know what that image is of? Because I do, and it's not on the wikipedia. That is an image of moses and the 13 tribes of israel coming to the new israel, the united states. The difference between me and everyone else commenting here, is i am a scholar and i know things that no one else knows, because learning is what i do for fun.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 05:10:48 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.
I would let Gaia have her way with me.

she's probably try to do it from behind too. that woman is vicious

Good.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:22:25 PM
Here's the definition of economics right off google: Economics is the social science that seeks to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services.

Economics has a number of definitions, and in the context of using a verb like "adhere" it makes more sense to assume one refers to a definition along the lines of "economic conditions," a definition also easily available with a quick Google search. Your use of the adjective "American" further reinforces this reading, since "American economics" is not a uniform branch of economics as a social science, while "American economics" with "economics" defined as "economic conditions" is something that can actually be defined and makes sense (the economic conditions of the US).

If you were using the definition of economics as a social science, then your phrasing was exceptionally poor. More likely you were not thinking too much at the time you wrote it and are now backpedaling.

I don't practice the American social sciences that seek to describe the factors which determine the production, distribution and consumption of goods and services

Putting aside the fact that I question whether this was the relevant definition of "economics" used in the first place, as explained above, you "do" practice those "social sciences" by virtue of the fact that you participate in the American economy, like almost everyone who lives in the US. You can't make a profit off of owning property (as you claim you do) or even work for a wage without participating in the system. Saying that you don't "adhere to" American capitalism and that you don't "practice" American capitalism while participating in the capitalist economy, even extracting rent as a capitalist, is nonsensical. You don't understand this because you are an ignorant liberal who thinks economics and politics exist as idealist forms separate from material reality. This is the one thing in this thread Yamon has been correct about, albeit unintentionally.

In other words, I don't adhere to the studies of economies presented by popular American interpretations.

That's fine, but this meaning was not at all "obvious" in your original statement, which was your original contention. I await your apology for being a stupid fucktard.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:23:06 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.

I don't remember those characters very well.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:23:37 PM
Yamon, you are delusional.  I'm going to check out of this discussion now.

i can show my sources as to where i learned this, but i don't think you'll appreciate it very much. I went looking specifically for that image for like 30 minutes in referrance to what i've learned. What do you think i just randomly found an image and said something about it? I can't make this stuff up. Labeling me delusional is damaging for anyone who wants to listen to what i say and learn from it. Do you know even know what that image is of? Because I do, and it's not on the wikipedia. That is an image of moses and the 13 tribes of israel coming to the new israel, the united states.


You are a delusional insane person and should seek professional help. Cheers.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.

I don't remember those characters very well.

they were the main characters!  ... do you even Rome bro?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 05:24:56 PM
Yamon, you are delusional.  I'm going to check out of this discussion now.

i can show my sources as to where i learned this, but i don't think you'll appreciate it very much. I went looking specifically for that image for like 30 minutes in referrance to what i've learned. What do you think i just randomly found an image and said something about it? I can't make this stuff up. Labeling me delusional is damaging for anyone who wants to listen to what i say and learn from it. Do you know even know what that image is of? Because I do, and it's not on the wikipedia. That is an image of moses and the 13 tribes of israel coming to the new israel, the united states.


You are a delusional insane person and should seek professional help. Cheers.
I honestly think you should follow your own advice. How long have you been going untreated? 1715 posts of hate filled nonsense. I really think you should be banned. Pick up a hobby, grab a book, it'll do you some good. I went down to my local library and picked up quite a few, give it a try.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:25:39 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.

I don't remember those characters very well.

they were the main characters!  ... do you even Rome bro?


I thought the main characters were relatively boring compared to the historical figures.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:28:13 PM
fine switch the two of them out and use mark antony and gaius octavian ceasar
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:28:40 PM
still tag teaming from behind
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:32:38 PM
You'd be a retard to NOT get spit roasted by historical figures of that stature when you had the chance.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:33:04 PM
hassan if you were on the show Rome would you let lucius and titus tag team you from behind? tell the truth.

I don't remember those characters very well.

they were the main characters!  ... do you even Rome bro?


I thought the main characters were relatively boring compared to the historical figures.

also, both of the main characters were actual historical figures
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2015, 05:33:37 PM
You'd be a retard to NOT get spit roasted by historical figures of that stature when you had the chance.


no i completely agree. i was just wondering how you felt about it
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 05:36:34 PM
Actually nevermind Antony was a retard.

also, both of the main characters were actual historical figures

They're mentioned briefly in Caesar's Gallic Wars, which while a valuable historical document, is likely not very accurate and truthful and is probably more of a propaganda piece. Even if not there's barely anything about them in there. There were probably guys with those names who served under Caesar but the characters on the show are fictional aside from that.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 06:19:01 PM

Economics has a number of definitions, and in the context of using a verb like "adhere" it makes more sense to assume one refers to a definition along the lines of "economic conditions," a definition also easily available with a quick Google search. Your use of the adjective "American" further reinforces this reading, since "American economics" is not a uniform branch of economics as a social science, while "American economics" with "economics" defined as "economic conditions" is something that can actually be defined and makes sense (the economic conditions of the US).



I have not backtracked at all, I used common definitions of each word and simply replaced them in my sentences. You’re the one backtracking.

You really never know when to concede. Yes, economics has multiple definitions. Of which, all conventional and frequent uses pertain to it as a study, or science. Just to be clear, since you're often throwing around words around carelessly - "Science" is a study as well, obviously a more refined study with select guidelines/rules in which we observe such, but nonetheless it is definitely a study.  I can adhere to the science of animal breeding, without breeding with animals. I don’t need to replace “economics” with “economic conditions” to infer that I am talking about the STUDY of the system.

Also, you’re trying to claim when it is and isn't practical/common place to use the word adhere. Sorry, but I can say "I don't adhere to the study of...." or "I  don't adhere to the science of..."  And it makes plenty of sense. You're really grasping at straws here. And the main confusion you’re mixing up is the practice of the study of an act/event/system/environment and the practice within that act/event/system/environment.

P.S. Just to be clear too: You keep throwing around "American Capitalism" - Capitalism, is the system itself, not the study of the system - the study of such systems is economics. You once again swapped these words like they were nothing (lol).
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
I have not backtracked at all, I used common definitions of each word and simply replaced them in my sentences. You’re the one backtracking.

No, I'm not. "Economic conditions" is also a common definition of the word "economics." Further, the only thing I've contended is that your usage of the term to mean adhering to a particular school of economic thought was not "obvious," as you put it, which I have explained in detail, and which you have not addressed except to say obviously false things such as "all common usage" of the word refers to the definition you used.

You really never know when to concede. Yes, economics has multiple definitions. Of which, all conventional and frequent uses pertain to it as a study, or science.

It is definitely not true that "all conventional and frequent uses" pertain to economics as a study.

Also, you’re trying to claim when it is and isn't practical/common place to use the word adhere. Sorry, but I can say "I don't adhere to the study of...." or "I  don't adhere to the science of..."  And it makes plenty of sense.

You're right, that does make sense. The problem is you didn't say that, you said you adhered to "American economics" and were no more specific than that. Refer to my previous "adhere to the law of gravity" example.

P.S. Just to be clear too: You keep throwing around "American Capitalism" - Capitalism, is the system itself, not the study of the system - the study of such systems is economics. You once again swapped these words like they were nothing (lol).

When I said "American capitalism" I was referring to the system itself and not the study of it. The study of capitalism is not even commonly called "capitalism" in isolation, so I have no idea what this is supposed to mean, unless this is more meta "I'm just PRETENDING to be a retard, lol" "trolling."
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: hop on October 29, 2015, 06:34:00 PM
And what's interesting, after reading one of book i can easily say i know more about the economy than anyone on this forum.
i have a minor in economics from an accredited university, and if you know more than me after reading one book then i'll be awfully pissed about paying for 19 credits.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 06:42:54 PM
I know more about economics than you after reading one book.  That book?  Das Kapital, by Karl Mark.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 07:02:20 PM

You really never know when to concede. Yes, economics has multiple definitions. Of which, all conventional and frequent uses pertain to it as a study, or science.

It is definitely not true that "all conventional and frequent uses" pertain to economics as a study.

What about economics as a science?





Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 07:04:56 PM
Please god Hop, get into a debate here. Also, say an occasional funny joke for the spectacle.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: hop on October 29, 2015, 07:06:28 PM
that was on the reading somewhere in the 19 credits.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: hop on October 29, 2015, 07:08:42 PM
Please god Hop, get into a debate here. Also, say an occasional funny joke for the spectacle.

think i'll just observe this one.  pretty fun so far tbh.  where'd yamon go though?  he's 1 day into his 6 years of study so i feel like he has a lot more to offer the discussion.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 07:45:03 PM
Please god Hop, get into a debate here. Also, say an occasional funny joke for the spectacle.

think i'll just observe this one.  pretty fun so far tbh.  where'd yamon go though?  he's 1 day into his 6 years of study so i feel like he has a lot more to offer the discussion.
2 months into my 8 years actually
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 08:19:29 PM
that was on the reading somewhere in the 19 credits.

Presumably only Volume I. (http://mindromp.org/forum/images/smilies/emot-smug.gif)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 08:23:40 PM
What about economics as a science?

This is a non-sequitur.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 08:44:36 PM
Could you provide a reputable source that defines "economics", in that exact suffix, as something other than a study, or science? Could you also please be so kind as to define "science" or provide a reputable source that defines it?

I imagine they're all in the scope of - observation, base of knowledge, totality of systems, analyzing, understanding, interpreting etc.

Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 08:59:38 PM
Could you provide a reputable source that defines "economics", in that exact suffix, as something other than a study, or science?


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/economics (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/economics)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/economics (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/economics)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/economics (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/economics)

Could you also please be so kind as to define "science" or provide a reputable source that defines it?


No one is questioning the definition of "science" Swift. Are you drunk again?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Almost every definition defines it as a science or study.

So here's your same sources with the definitions to science.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science)

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/science (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/science)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/science (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/science)

I seem to be seeing that word study thrown around an awful lot. Odd
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 09:31:58 PM
Almost every definition defines it as a science or study.

Words have more than one meaning Swift, especially in different contexts. The rest of your post makes no sense.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 09:59:38 PM
Great, so maybe you found a FEW  gray or slightly varying definitions that don't relate to economics being a base of knowledge, study or science. Unfortunately, for every one definition that suggests it is not a study/science/base of knowledge, there are 10+ more that do. Thanks for proving the same. The fact is, the vast majority of the time the word is used, it is used so as to pertaining to a study, or science, and as so shown - knowledge. With that in mind, we could end the debate between you and I right there, as it's obvious that if one were to assume how I were using the word "economics" - the very fact that 95%+ of the definitions explain it to be exactly what I suggested (pertaining to study/science), and the 5% are to grey to truly determine one way or another - is reason enough to learn towards the way I've been saying I used it.

So great, we have effectively substantiated what I've been saying all along. Good job team Swiftfuck.  We now know that by stating "I do not adhere to american economics" It's almost entirely likely I'm saying "I do not adhere to american studies of... "I do not adhere to the american sciences of...." or "I do not adhere to the american knowledge/interpretation of..." .... Do I need to remind you that literally 95% of the definitions of economics, and science that we both posted prove the same?

Discussion is over.

Nonetheless, let's continue. Because for some reason, as if that simple sentence wasn't clear enough, you also managed not to figure out what I was saying through the context. I'm really glad you brought up context!

If I asked you: Are you current on your home mortgage? Or how rough was the current when you drifted the river last week?
You would see the same word with two distinctively different meanings, yet the context would allow you to decipher between the two.

To that end, you've also finally been made aware of a valuable conundrum within the English language: many of our words have multiple meanings, but for the most part, we aren’t confused by them. That’s because the other important element of language is context. Maybe using the word "current" gives for an overwhelming simple example, but it's to make a point nonetheless.

Let's evaluate the context in mine and Zack's discussion as it pertains to "not adhering to american economics" and see if we can't conclude that the context alone was set to easily clear up any unwarranted confusion you and him have had.

My first response: "teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo."

(The bolded words will hereinafter be referred to as "the words in question)

1. the words in question do immediately follow "teach me?" which is obviously in reference to his talks of going to school to study economic theory. Thus it's reasonable to conclude that I was referencing his schooling (see studies, sciences, knowledge) as to what I do not adhere to.
2. then immediately following the words in question i replied with an insult in regards to his goal to graduate -  further showing that I was still on the subject of economics as it pertains to studies.
3. Miltion friedman was/is a renowned american economist and shooting him down falls in line with the rest of the context.

My second Reply: "A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism."

I don't even need to explain that one to you, do I? Come on. Zack responded to both of these replies unable to comprehend what I was talking about even with sufficient context provided. Then I made another reply, and you acted as if my prior replies didn't suffice? silly newb.

The debate is clearly over. It's overwhelming substantiated by both you and I that the words in question were sufficient enough for one to conclude as to what I was talking about, and moreover it is also substantiated that the context provides the same.

You are owned, it doesn't matter if you dissect the post or go with an "lmfao"/ "meltdown" type reply.  I have effectively proven without a doubt, that I am right and you are wrong. I'm more interested to watch you squirm, as you always do, and see if you can some how manage to get me to reply with your weak post that is most likely to follow.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: shesycompany on October 29, 2015, 09:59:48 PM
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Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 29, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
Great, so maybe you found a FEW  gray or slightly varying definitions that don't relate to economics being a base of knowledge, study or science. Unfortunately, for every one definition that suggests it is not a study/science/base of knowledge, there are 10+ more that do. Thanks for proving the same. The fact is, the vast majority of the time the word is used, it is used so as to pertaining to a study, or science, and as so shown - knowledge. With that in mind, we could end the debate between you and I right there, as it's obvious that if one were to assume how I were using the word "economics" - the very fact that 95%+ of the definitions explain it to be exactly what I suggested (pertaining to study/science), and the 5% are to grey to truly determine one way or another - is reason enough to learn towards the way I've been saying I used it.

So great, we have effectively substantiated what I've been saying all along. Good job team Swiftfuck.  We now know that by stating "I do not adhere to american economics" It's almost entirely likely I'm saying "I do not adhere to american studies of... "I do not adhere to the american sciences of...." or "I do not adhere to the american knowledge/interpretation of..." .... Do I need to remind you that literally 95% of the definitions of economics, and science that we both posted prove the same?

Discussion is over.

Nonetheless, let's continue. Because for some reason, as if that simple sentence wasn't clear enough, you also managed not to figure out what I was saying through the context. I'm really glad you brought up context!

If I asked you: Are you current on your home mortgage? Or how rough was the current when you drifted the river last week?
You would see the same word with two distinctively different meanings, yet the context would allow you to decipher between the two.

To that end, you've also finally been made aware of a valuable conundrum within the English language: many of our words have multiple meanings, but for the most part, we aren’t confused by them. That’s because the other important element of language is context. Maybe using the word "current" gives for an overwhelming simple example, but it's to make a point nonetheless.

Let's evaluate the context in mine and Zack's discussion as it pertains to "not adhering to american economics" and see if we can't conclude that the context alone was set to easily clear up any unwarranted confusion you and him have had.

My first response: "teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo."

(The bolded words will hereinafter be referred to as "the words in question)

1. the words in question do immediately follow "teach me?" which is obviously in reference to his talks of going to school to study economic theory. Thus it's reasonable to conclude that I was referencing his schooling (see studies, sciences, knowledge) as to what I do not adhere to.
2. then immediately following the words in question i replied with an insult in regards to his goal to graduate -  further showing that I was still on the subject of economics as it pertains to studies.
3. Miltion friedman was/is a renowned american economist and shooting him down falls in line with the rest of the context.

My second Reply: "A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism."

I don't even need to explain that one to you, do I? Come on. Zack responded to both of these replies unable to comprehend what I was talking about even with sufficient context provided. Then I made another reply, and you acted as if my prior replies didn't suffice? silly newb.

The debate is clearly over. It's overwhelming substantiated by both you and I that the words in question were sufficient enough for one to conclude as to what I was talking about, and moreover it is also substantiated that the context provides the same.

You are owned, it doesn't matter if you dissect the post or go with an "lmfao"/ "meltdown" type reply.  I have effectively proven without a doubt, that I am right and you are wrong. I'm more interested to watch you squirm, as you always do, and see if you can some how manage to get me to reply with your weak post that is most likely to follow.
Hm, all very good, but has anyone figured out what "adhere" means yet?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 29, 2015, 10:23:15 PM
Great, so maybe you found a FEW  gray or slightly varying definitions that don't relate to economics being a base of knowledge, study or science. Unfortunately, for every one definition that suggests it is not a study/science/base of knowledge, there are 10+ more that do. Thanks for proving the same. The fact is, the vast majority of the time the word is used, it is used so as to pertaining to a study, or science, and as so shown - knowledge. With that in mind, we could end the debate between you and I right there, as it's obvious that if one were to assume how I were using the word "economics" - the very fact that 95%+ of the definitions explain it to be exactly what I suggested (pertaining to study/science), and the 5% are to grey to truly determine one way or another - is reason enough to learn towards the way I've been saying I used it.

So great, we have effectively substantiated what I've been saying all along. Good job team Swiftfuck.  We now know that by stating "I do not adhere to american economics" It's almost entirely likely I'm saying "I do not adhere to american studies of... "I do not adhere to the american sciences of...." or "I do not adhere to the american knowledge/interpretation of..." .... Do I need to remind you that literally 95% of the definitions of economics, and science that we both posted prove the same?

Discussion is over.

Nonetheless, let's continue. Because for some reason, as if that simple sentence wasn't clear enough, you also managed not to figure out what I was saying through the context. I'm really glad you brought up context!

If I asked you: Are you current on your home mortgage? Or how rough was the current when you drifted the river last week?
You would see the same word with two distinctively different meanings, yet the context would allow you to decipher between the two.

To that end, you've also finally been made aware of a valuable conundrum within the English language: many of our words have multiple meanings, but for the most part, we aren’t confused by them. That’s because the other important element of language is context. Maybe using the word "current" gives for an overwhelming simple example, but it's to make a point nonetheless.

Let's evaluate the context in mine and Zack's discussion as it pertains to "not adhering to american economics" and see if we can't conclude that the context alone was set to easily clear up any unwarranted confusion you and him have had.

My first response: "teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo."

(The bolded words will hereinafter be referred to as "the words in question)

1. the words in question do immediately follow "teach me?" which is obviously in reference to his talks of going to school to study economic theory. Thus it's reasonable to conclude that I was referencing his schooling (see studies, sciences, knowledge) as to what I do not adhere to.
2. then immediately following the words in question i replied with an insult in regards to his goal to graduate -  further showing that I was still on the subject of economics as it pertains to studies.
3. Miltion friedman was/is a renowned american economist and shooting him down falls in line with the rest of the context.

My second Reply: "A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism."

I don't even need to explain that one to you, do I? Come on. Zack responded to both of these replies unable to comprehend what I was talking about even with sufficient context provided. Then I made another reply, and you acted as if my prior replies didn't suffice? silly newb.

The debate is clearly over. It's overwhelming substantiated by both you and I that the words in question were sufficient enough for one to conclude as to what I was talking about, and moreover it is also substantiated that the context provides the same.

You are owned, it doesn't matter if you dissect the post or go with an "lmfao"/ "meltdown" type reply.  I have effectively proven without a doubt, that I am right and you are wrong. I'm more interested to watch you squirm, as you always do, and see if you can some how manage to get me to reply with your weak post that is most likely to follow.

I definitely didn't read this past the part where you admitted I was right in the first sentence. Cheers.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 10:24:53 PM
leave it to yamon to start an honest conversation about economics and have it turn into a dick swinging contest.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 11:11:48 PM
Great, so maybe you found a FEW  gray or slightly varying definitions that don't relate to economics being a base of knowledge, study or science. Unfortunately, for every one definition that suggests it is not a study/science/base of knowledge, there are 10+ more that do. Thanks for proving the same. The fact is, the vast majority of the time the word is used, it is used so as to pertaining to a study, or science, and as so shown - knowledge. With that in mind, we could end the debate between you and I right there, as it's obvious that if one were to assume how I were using the word "economics" - the very fact that 95%+ of the definitions explain it to be exactly what I suggested (pertaining to study/science), and the 5% are to grey to truly determine one way or another - is reason enough to learn towards the way I've been saying I used it.

So great, we have effectively substantiated what I've been saying all along. Good job team Swiftfuck.  We now know that by stating "I do not adhere to american economics" It's almost entirely likely I'm saying "I do not adhere to american studies of... "I do not adhere to the american sciences of...." or "I do not adhere to the american knowledge/interpretation of..." .... Do I need to remind you that literally 95% of the definitions of economics, and science that we both posted prove the same?

Discussion is over.

Nonetheless, let's continue. Because for some reason, as if that simple sentence wasn't clear enough, you also managed not to figure out what I was saying through the context. I'm really glad you brought up context!

If I asked you: Are you current on your home mortgage? Or how rough was the current when you drifted the river last week?
You would see the same word with two distinctively different meanings, yet the context would allow you to decipher between the two.

To that end, you've also finally been made aware of a valuable conundrum within the English language: many of our words have multiple meanings, but for the most part, we aren’t confused by them. That’s because the other important element of language is context. Maybe using the word "current" gives for an overwhelming simple example, but it's to make a point nonetheless.

Let's evaluate the context in mine and Zack's discussion as it pertains to "not adhering to american economics" and see if we can't conclude that the context alone was set to easily clear up any unwarranted confusion you and him have had.

My first response: "teach me? i don't adhere to american economics, they are retarded, and you'll come out dumber if you somehow do graduate. oh and milton friedman is a homo."

(The bolded words will hereinafter be referred to as "the words in question)

1. the words in question do immediately follow "teach me?" which is obviously in reference to his talks of going to school to study economic theory. Thus it's reasonable to conclude that I was referencing his schooling (see studies, sciences, knowledge) as to what I do not adhere to.
2. then immediately following the words in question i replied with an insult in regards to his goal to graduate -  further showing that I was still on the subject of economics as it pertains to studies.
3. Miltion friedman was/is a renowned american economist and shooting him down falls in line with the rest of the context.

My second Reply: "A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism."

I don't even need to explain that one to you, do I? Come on. Zack responded to both of these replies unable to comprehend what I was talking about even with sufficient context provided. Then I made another reply, and you acted as if my prior replies didn't suffice? silly newb.

The debate is clearly over. It's overwhelming substantiated by both you and I that the words in question were sufficient enough for one to conclude as to what I was talking about, and moreover it is also substantiated that the context provides the same.

You are owned, it doesn't matter if you dissect the post or go with an "lmfao"/ "meltdown" type reply.  I have effectively proven without a doubt, that I am right and you are wrong. I'm more interested to watch you squirm, as you always do, and see if you can some how manage to get me to reply with your weak post that is most likely to follow.
Hm, all very good, but has anyone figured out what "adhere" means yet?

That's the first word we went over -_-'
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 29, 2015, 11:39:58 PM
Yamon -

Please be advised, it is evident that GN- has indirectly conceded that I am right and that the context of the posts in question, along with the 95%+ of  the definitions that define economics, science, and adhere, prove the same. alternatively, you could reach the same conclusion by simply rereading that last post of mine, as I have shown that it is undeniable - I provided sufficient language and context in all three posts to you to express what I meant when I said that I do not adhere to american economics.  Unfortunately, we were rudely interrupted and I hope that it does not happen again. 

I hope that we can come to a mutual meeting of the minds, one where we are gathered around the fact that the whole economics framework that you wish to subscribe to is a bunch of bullshit. In a collective effort to meet that end, please reply to my third post on the matter. I believe it is on page 8.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Yamon on October 29, 2015, 11:48:00 PM
Yamon -

Please be advised, it is evident that GN- has indirectly conceded that I am right and that the context of the posts in question, along with the 95%+ of  the definitions that define economics, science, and adhere, prove the same. alternatively, you could reach the same conclusion by simply rereading that last post of mine, as I have shown that it is undeniable - I provided sufficient language and context in all three posts to you to express what I meant when I said that I do not adhere to american economics.  Unfortunately, we were rudely interrupted and I hope that it does not happen again. 

I hope that we can come to a mutual meeting of the minds, one where we are gathered around the fact that the whole economics framework that you wish to subscribe to is a bunch of bullshit. In a collective effort to meet that end, please reply to my third post on the matter. I believe it is on page 8.

Yeah. Economics is just theory theory theory. In closing I would like to state that we are the only two smart enough to speak on such matters, and to do so without malice, without hyperbole, or without deceit, in which instance one will take something out of context and try to ask you a jaded question in an effort to prove that you are wrong, when in fact they do not know either way.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:05:57 AM
TK - do you think my ugly stripper wife is disappointed that $2,700 is the most money I could come up with to post on an internet forum?
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 30, 2015, 12:30:02 AM
Yeah look at all the money swift takes pictures with.
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/52408f0f6bb3f7185a8b456b/21-examples-of-floyd-mayweather-flaunting-his-insane-wealth.jpg (http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/52408f0f6bb3f7185a8b456b/21-examples-of-floyd-mayweather-flaunting-his-insane-wealth.jpg)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 30, 2015, 07:01:33 AM
Yamon -

Please be advised, it is evident that GN- has indirectly conceded that I am right and that the context of the posts in question, along with the 95%+ of  the definitions that define economics, science, and adhere, prove the same. alternatively, you could reach the same conclusion by simply rereading that last post of mine, as I have shown that it is undeniable - I provided sufficient language and context in all three posts to you to express what I meant when I said that I do not adhere to american economics.  Unfortunately, we were rudely interrupted and I hope that it does not happen again. 

I hope that we can come to a mutual meeting of the minds, one where we are gathered around the fact that the whole economics framework that you wish to subscribe to is a bunch of bullshit. In a collective effort to meet that end, please reply to my third post on the matter. I believe it is on page 8.

Actually you were wrong, and you're still mad about it.

TK - do you think my ugly stripper wife is disappointed that $2,700 is the most money I could come up with to post on an internet forum?

Trying to talk shit about people's spouses is already in pretty bad taste but this is especially retarded since you already admitted to lying about having a girlfriend for attention and admiration lol.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: EviL~Ryu on October 30, 2015, 09:43:56 AM

Almost every definition defines it as a science or study.


Words have more than one meaning Swift, especially in different contexts. The rest of your post makes no sense.


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Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 11:58:27 AM
No you definitely got owned and look like a total moron lmao - glad you got to learn what adhere, economics and science mean, as well as the importance of context.


also i never said i lied about "having a girlfriend" that's just more proof of you twisting things :D
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 30, 2015, 12:00:19 PM
No you definitely got owned and look like a total moron lmao - glad you got to learn what adhere, economics and science mean, as well as the importance of context.


also i never said i lied about "having a girlfriend" that's just more proof of you twisting things :D
I still don't know what adhere means.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:01:24 PM
GN- just learned, perhaps he can help you out
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 30, 2015, 12:02:59 PM
No you definitely got owned and look like a total moron lmao - glad you got to learn what adhere, economics and science mean, as well as the importance of context.


also i never said i lied about "having a girlfriend" that's just more proof of you twisting things :D

You got owned by admitting I was right in that last post and then whining about it for pages and pages, you got owned when you admitted you lied about having a girlfriend, you got owned when you tried to puppet master your way out of getting owned, and you are VERY mad about it, while I remain calm, detached, and aloof.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:08:07 PM
Thats my second clearest victory vs you ever  ;D
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 30, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
Thats my second clearest victory vs you ever  ;D
This thread is amazing.

How did it spiral from being about swift looking at yamons replays to this.
lol
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
because yamon came back in to talk about economics, and then ghostnuke didn't know what that word meant (along with others)
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 30, 2015, 12:25:54 PM
Thats my second clearest victory vs you ever  ;D

OK Swift.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 30, 2015, 12:44:36 PM
because yamon came back in to talk about economics, and then ghostnuke didn't know what that word meant (along with others)
Wow talk about off topic.
I think they like reading your posts swift. :)
Otherwise why would they bring it up.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
oh definitely, I mean he handed that one to me on a silver platter though due to recklessly coming in here all mad about our other argument and he just desperately attacked the first thing I said that he thought he could win an argument over, only to lose again. At this point, GN is just padding my forum record.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: CumSavorer4385 on October 30, 2015, 02:58:35 PM
oh definitely, I mean he handed that one to me on a silver platter though due to recklessly coming in here all mad about our other argument and he just desperately attacked the first thing I said that he thought he could win an argument over, only to lose again. At this point, GN is just padding my forum record.


You're so mad at me you can't stop talking about me Swift, you should try to relax.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Swift on October 30, 2015, 04:34:26 PM
Actually, I'm happy for you. Just yesterday you didn't know what words like adhere and economics meant. Now look at you.
Title: Re: here it is swift
Post by: Hygro on November 21, 2015, 04:27:13 PM
Haha I read that list of 10 communist societies before the USSR and they were almost entirely cases slave states run by theocratic and warrior classes. Communism is a classless society.