Re: mccain's death
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2018, 11:04:50 AM »
Do you realize "just following orders" was the defense of the nazis tried at Nuremburg? We settled this after WWII, "just following orders" is not a morally sound defense for murder.
Yes I am well aware. Nobody was tried at Nuremburg just for being a pilot. Nobody has ever even been charged with war crimes for simply being the guy driving the plane. Read the laws and use some common sense.
It says a lot about you that you assume anyone opposed to the veneration of imperial butchers is just doing it to cynically push an agenda rather than expressing a sincere sentiment of moral outrage and horror. I wonder why you find it so hard to believe someone could have a sincere opposition to racist imperial genocide, hmmmm.
It doesn't matter how morally outraged you are at the crimes, ascribing them to to guy driving the plane is just stupid. How about the guy who pushed the button to drop the bombs? How about the soldier who refuelled the plane, is he a war criminal too? How about the receptionist at front desk of the Air-Force base... war criminal?
How about the guy who gets the bombs out of storage and loads them on to the plane? .... now that guy definitely helped get those bombs there, is he a war criminal?
Many soldiers kill people in wars. Many of them were only there because if they refused the draft they would be jailed. It's not a voluntary system, soldiers don't pick their targets and pilots may or may not even know what they are bombing, that's why soldiers in that position are not considered war criminals.
McCain came from a rich family and volunteered to serve in the air force and help kill millions of vietnamese and poison their children for generations. Oops! You're full of shit!
Try reading. That entire paragraph doesn't even mention McCain, it's on defining a war criminal.
He was rich? So what? So was Elvis. He chose to join the air force? Again, so what? Even if you join the armed forces voluntarily you will still get court-martialed and thrown in a military prison if you refuse to follow orders. It's not a voluntary system
Who was the person that planned and ordered the bombing missions you care so much about? Who was the person who approved the use of napalm by the US military in the first place? Who was the pilot of the Enola Gay? I would guess you don't know and you don't really care, because that's not the barrow you are pushing.
Why wouldn't I condemn those people too? Obviously I do but this thread is about McCain who is currently being blown by the American elite media as a great hero of human rights, so that's why I'm talking about McCain. You idiot
Again. Try reading. I didn't ask if you would condemn them, and I didn't ask why you were talking about McCain (you idiot
You can yell at you TV as much as you want. I am no supporter of John McCain, but his politics and every other thing he has done since he was 31 years old are totally irrellevant as to the question of him being a war criminal, and I haven't said anything about any of that.
Attack him on his politics and you won't get any argument from me.
Yes just don't talk about his enthusiastic participation in genocide, that's not political somehow
Not at all. If you have some quote from McCain where's he's saying how enthusiastic he is about killing civillians that's very relevent, post that meme.
But seriously don't trivialize horrific war crimes by using them for your own meme trash politics. It smells bad no matter which side is doing it.
Fuck off you slimy little weasel, suck this baby killer's dead dick some more.
Settle petal. The guy is pretty easy to hate on without making stuff up, so hf, go hate on him.