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Server.War2.ru / Re: Are we over the "voobly" thing??
« on: November 29, 2014, 05:48:47 PM »
We have several problems with Voobly project to let us move this way:
1. Elusive (the only admin) have no interest to war2 project.
2. IPX way: nobody knows about to improve latency for IPX connections. I still didn't find an answer if there's a way to use something like PKT:4 on BNE and if it helps for lagging on IPX. I'm not experienced in IPX, i even never played IPX war2, so i need some help in that question.
3. PVPGN way: i still didn't understand how anybody plan to use pvpgn inside voobly and why. Voobly looked like an IPX network for games. I can be wrong here.
4. People lost interest. Maybe different reasons, not sure. Last time no one joined voobly at the specified time.

I don't think complicated setup should be a problem if we resolve the main problems. But i'm waiting for any ideas/solutions from people who produced Voobly idea for war2.

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General Discussion / Re: Personal banner for your signature?!!
« on: November 29, 2014, 04:59:46 PM »
Hm, that's interesting idea, but i don't see a way to trade your wins/losses.
Your win/loss ratio is some kind of your skill measure, your total game number is your activity measure, so i don't see how to trade that in the world we have...

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General Discussion / Re: Did this forum fail?
« on: November 29, 2014, 04:30:58 AM »
Everyone still uses the original one.
I expected much worse while starting it.

Now we have almost the whole active war2 community registered here, except maybe 3-5 contradictive users.
There's not many people posting something both there and here, but we have active core of users here on the new forum, and that's the best thing.

The most problem for the new empty forum is that's psychologically difficult to post on the empty forum, and this problem should be resolved soon. Most people just waiting and looking around this new unknown thing before coming.
But we have to handle both forums for a long time, we will see which one will be more active. Everything just begins.

Another important thing to say: I don't want to contradict the old forum: I should use both of them.
It's not easy for me sometimes, because i feel this one as something like my baby and requires all my care, but that's important thing: our main care is people, doesn't matter which forum do they use.

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tk[as], when you post links with https, it doesn't being embed to the page. You can change https to http, then you will post the same video onpage instead of the link.

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Website & Forum Discussion / Re: Offers about forum improvement?
« on: November 28, 2014, 04:30:19 PM »
Well, i actually have some plans about chat... for far future, not any one, and not now.

So, what we have offered but not done yet:
Well in that case, you should add spanish.
Maybe add a newbies section where guys just starting off can challenge each other
Strategy section is important too..

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Server.War2.ru / MOVED: GAMEBOT
« on: November 28, 2014, 04:23:15 PM »

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Support Requests / Re: GAMEBOT
« on: November 28, 2014, 04:21:27 PM »
Checked that, it's really a problem.
The server stays at mousEtopher's home. Let's check until she checks her configs.

Donation $10/month wanted for windows hosting for bot also.

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Server.War2.ru / Recommendations for the server etiquette
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:24:14 AM »
Also as an addition for Rules.
You could not be punished for that, but could make your stay better.


Common recommendations, for chat and server the whole
1. Read these recommendations and the server rules and learn it carefully.
The rules ignorance is not an excuse for violating them

2. Users must show mutual respect for each other.
This is the main point, covering all the other points of these recommendations and the server rules.

3. If you have some trouble with software working on the server, report to admins by the forum, or whisper that to any admin on the server.

4. If you have a conflict with another person on the server, try to understand him and explain your point to him.
Don't insult to anybody, that never helps you to explain your point and it never helps people to repsect each other.
If somebody violates the server rules or these recommendations, it could not be a reason to insult him too.

5. You can complain for somebody disturbing your interests to administration privately.
Be ready you and him would be checked.

6. You can discuss something or somebody you see as a problem on the public forum. Then hide the name of the discussed person if it's possible to understand your point wothout discovering his/her name.

7. Assert things only if you are 100% sure it's truth.
Apologize to the person been insulted/slandered by you as soon as you see you was wrong, if it happens.
That helps you to keep youself honest and helps him/her to respect you.

8. If you see some good idea from somebody, keep his name while publishing that idea to others.
That will help for mutual respect between you and idea's author.

9. Have respect for administration and more experienced people as long as they accord these rules and your good conscience.

Playing recommendations, while joining and playing the game
1. Obey the server host: the game creator.
Do what he tells to you until that contradicts these rules, recommendations and your conscience.
If he asks you to be a watcher, you must accept or leave the game.
Recommendations for watchers listed below.

2. You can pause the game if you need, but don't do that for a long time (more then 1-2 minutes) and warn berofe unpause.
Don't pause the game if you can play. Pausing is very annoying.

3. Don't unpause the games paused by others unless the pauser asks about that.

4. You can ask SS if you think somebody is hacking, but don't do that with no reason.
Asking SS is annoying and looks like some kind of disrespect and discredit.
If someone asks SS from you, you must do it.
Read about requesting and replying SS in section below.

5. Don't attack your allies.

6. Don't occupy the territory your ally just cleared for himself.

7. If you are going to lost and exit the game because someone attacking you last building and you have allies, so the game is not finished, you may ask to leave a building to let you watch.

Then you have appoximately the same rights, as if you'd be exit the game:
Unvis to everyone, stop talking and helping to everyone. Same as wacther, except you must surrender and exit if your team looses.

8. If someone asks to leave building to stay in game as a watcher, would be good to to that. Just tell him to unvis to all.

9. If you obviously loosing the game, exit the game as soon as possilbe. Until opponent destroys all your buildings. Structure destroying for dead player is very annoying. Respect your opponent and his time.

10. If you are lagging in game and others include your allies asks you to exit, do that even if you take loss.
Your lagging is mainly your problem and could not be a reason to ruin the game for others.

Watching recommendations, while joining and watching the game
1. Obey the server host: the game creator.
Do what he tells to you until that contradicts these rules, recommendations and your conscience.
If he asks you to be a watcher, you must accept or leave the game.
If he asks you to play, you must accept or leave the game.

2. Ask to watch while joining the game.
Then you don't need to answer any questions like "s9", just type "watcher?" If the game host accepts, you watching.

Set up the race different from players. If all(or most) of them play orcs - set human.

3. Obey the all players in game. They just let you to watch their game. Do what they asks.
Remember, the best watcher is invisible watcher. You shouldn't eighter help or disturb to anyone playing. So, keep your peon as far as you can. Don't let players to even see it.
Don't interfere to the game balance.

4. So, the game began.
Set Allied Victory and Allies to everyone in game.
You can do it any moment you wish during the game, so i recommend to set Allies+AV as soon as the game started. Othewise you can forget to do it and the game will not be finished when lost team leaves.

5. About vision:
Here are 2 options on game types: TVB and melee.
If you watch melee, vision if switched off to all players, so, you are done. Never switch it on and you will be ok.
If you watch TVB, your team see your peon, but your opponents don't. Disbalanse. You have to do 2 things:
- set vision to everyone
- unset vision to everyone.
Then you can move your peon. Don't move it until you unset vision to everyone, othewise they will see additional explored territory. But the main watcher's task is to be maximally invisible.
You should also type your place number for everybody while watching TVB, example: "5" (if you appeared on 5 on gow). Then your allies see that you informed away team where did you appear.

6. Move your peon from your starting point to a useless location. Use the most useless place you have near your starting point.

Sometimes watchers run away to their useless corner and build something there, just for fun. That feels normal usually while that corner is not visible for players, but i strongly don't recommend to build anything for beginning watchers.

Recommendations to create game
1. Make sure you are able to create the game: you need real ip with 6112 port properly forwarded to the world. Otherwise nobody can join your newly created game.
Important for newbies to be done once before you can host games.

2. Request an opponent and/or ally in the public chat or make sure there are enough players waiting for the new game. Suggest them the map you want to play.
Otherwise you will wait for somebody in your newly created game.

Usual maps on the server:
- Garden of War, speed even faster (ef), high resources, type: melee or top vs bottom.
- Garden of War BNE, speed fastest (f), high resources, type: melee or top vs bottom.
- Chop (different), speed fastest, type: top vs bottom, use map settings

Default speed/res for other maps: ef or f/high

3. Host the game yourself or use host bot if your connection doesn't support the game hosting.

4. Wait while others join your game.
- Balance teams while making TVB game to make it fair.
- Ask someone to be watcher if it's not possible to balance teams.
- Don't boot/ban people otherwise you know he disturbs these recommendations or the server rules and will ruin your game.
- Always try to explain people why do you dislike playing with them if you boot/ban.

5. Make sure everyone understood teams and watchers. Also make sure watcher knows how to watch.

6. Start the game then.

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Server.War2.ru / Server Rules
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:20:52 AM »
Server Rules:

1. Ignorance of the rules is not an excuse for violating them.

2. The account owner is responsible for any actions committed by an account, regardless of who committed the action under this account.
Having your password stolen could be a reason to avoid the sanctions once for known persons who can prove his/her account ownership.

3. Cheating and server-hacking attempts are prohibited.
Penalties: for the 1st time and repeated offenses: from a temporary ban to a permanent ban depending on the kind of cheating/hacking.

4. If someone requests a screenshot, one must be provided as soon as the game ends.
Details about screenshots: http://server.war2.ru/about/screenshot-policy/
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, 1 week ban for repeating the offense once, permanent ban for repeated violation.

5. Acts of religious, racial, sexual and other intolerance and/or discrimination are prohibited.
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, 1 week ban for repeating the offense once, permanent ban for repeated violation.

6. To offend the dignity of others by using swear words, put-downs, and other statements against them, in any language, is prohibited, except for friendly trash talk.
This includes chat messages, the user name and game names, personal communications, mail, etc. This includes "disguised swear words" - with the substitution of letters, etc., for offensive purposes.
The purpose of this rule is to protect new and casual players from being offended.
Penalties: warning for the first time, 1 day ban for second offense, 1 week ban for the third offense, permanent ban for the fourth offense.

7. Inciting server users to breach the server rules is prohibited.
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, 1 week ban for repeating, permanent ban for more repeating.

8. Framing, intentional defaming or baseless accusations against server users is prohibited.
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, 1 week ban for repeating, permanent ban for more repeating.

9.Any statements or other actions that violate any applicable laws or regulations are prohibited.
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, 1 week ban for repeating, permanent ban for more repeating.

10. Using similar or same nicks of other players with the intent of impersonating them is prohibited.
Penalties: warning for the 1-st time, deleting the similar accounts for repeating, 1 week ban for repeating, permanent ban for more repeating.

11. Using clan tags or imitation of clan tags in usernames is prohibited for non clan members.
Penalties: warning for the 1st time, deleting the similar accounts for repeating, 1 week ban for repeating, permanent ban for more repeating.

12. Spam is prohibited.
Penalties: for the 1st time and repeated: from warning to a permanent ban depending on the kind of spamming.

The penalties provided for these Rules violation:
- Warning
- A temporary ban
- Delete an account
- Permanent ban
Penalties apply to all accounts of the violating person.
Penalties can be amplified in the case of repeated violation.
Repeated violation before the ban-time expires (if the offender was able to circumvent the ban) may also amplify the penalty.

Penalties could also be reduced after remorse at the discretion of server administrators.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Let me know about any problems with vesrioncheck
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:16:41 AM »
Awesome for activating the post rankings :) What are the post count needed for unlocking the different grades? :) You can email me if you want :)

This: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,7.msg169.html#msg169

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Website & Forum Discussion / Re: To change forum grades
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:15:33 AM »
Done that.
Not sure it's visible for common users, i'd like to publish that...

Ranks, current user number, min message number for rank:
Critter    *    28    0    
Peon    **    3    10    
Grunt    ***    0    50    
Axe Thrower    ****    0    200    
Berserker    *****    0    400    
Sappers    ******    0    700    
Ogre    *******    0    1000    
Ogre Mage    ********    0    1500    
Death Knight    *********    0    2000    

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Let me know about any problems with vesrioncheck
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:01:28 AM »
Not exactly,
firstly we should check who uses which version and why.

But yes, our possible task could be to eighter close all the other versions or to mark them as "improper" in chat.

I don't like to hard close anyone, just to warn them.
It will be more intelligibly than to get a strange error...

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Server.War2.ru / Let me know about any problems with vesrioncheck
« on: November 28, 2014, 09:09:52 AM »
I switched vesrioncheck on several days ago, then your stealthbot had to be updated:
You should make W2BN directory into your stealthbot and copy 3 files there:
battle.snp storm.dll "Warcraft II BNE.exe"
as described here: http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25511

Were there any other problems? Let me know that.
I have plans to switch vesrioncheck on permanently, so, let me know if you have any problems with any of your client versions.

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Server.War2.ru / 20 years for Warcraft: Orcs & Humans
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:35:11 AM »
Warcraft: Orcs & Humans
The MS-DOS version was released in 23 November 1994

Anyways, let's remember that wonderful game!

You can also download it to play single or network game:
works on windows under DOSBOX via internet or local networks:
ftp://ftp.war2.ru/war2/warcraft1.rar

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Support Requests / Re: GAMEBOT
« on: November 28, 2014, 04:55:47 AM »
the gamebot has latency as well can we get this fixed plz thanks
Yes, this problem is still active for several months, just no ideas what can it be.
Some people joins fine, some have such problems.

Let me know details:
- did they ever join games created by gamebot or it never worked for them? Is the problem permanent or appears from time to time?
- what do they see for /ping gamebot ? What country are they located in? The reason could be eighter a port forwarding or really a low latency to gamebot host.

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