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General Discussion / Re: Is communism good or bad?
« on: May 09, 2018, 12:32:11 PM »
@3bdushakur, you are wrong on the following:
As for the Catholics, the Pope is not comparable with the Khalifah of the Muslims. The Khalifah has actual political, legislative and religious authority, the Pope doesn't. The Pope is merely a living idol for the Catholics to worship besides Allah. He is the Supreme living leade for the Catholics, as for the Muslims, the Khalifah is a man appointed the position and responsibility of leadership of an entire nation, he is not worshipped, he is not elavated to sainthood or any godhood (much like the Shi'ah and their Ayatoilets). The Shi'ah worship their leaders as gods on earth as per their religious doctrines, they are polytheists, like the Catholics.
Yes, the Pope normally had full political, legislative, religious and military authority. Slowly the Pope was forced to give up to secular power and eventually democracy was reinstated and removed all except his religious authorities. The Pope until 1563 in practice was an Emperor having authority over multiple nations (and even over Empires, such as the Portuguese and Spanish).
So we do agree that Islam and Democracy are incompatible ;-)
I do not see why we disagree with the Caliph? I think we say the same thing with different words... You place a Caliph per state while the normal definition has 1 Caliph for all Muslims.
About Shia and Sunni, I'm not an expert I only know that Shia are more radical and want a Caliph that is directly connected to Muhammad and the Sunni allow a leader that is appointed by representatives. Anyhow, we can put out Shia from the discussion.
Well Communism as an ideology doesn't necessarily removes religion. Marx did stated that religion should not be involved in politics and economics, and also he personally was against religion but that doesn't mean that Communism cant co-exist with a religion like: Buddhism or Confucianism or Traditional Chinese religion even with some sects of Hinduism. Those religions have nothing to do with authoritarianism and could co-exist with Communism. (ps: Buddhism, Confucianism normally are only philosophies but are refereed as religions because the promote inner spiritual elevation)
As for the Catholics, the Pope is not comparable with the Khalifah of the Muslims. The Khalifah has actual political, legislative and religious authority, the Pope doesn't. The Pope is merely a living idol for the Catholics to worship besides Allah. He is the Supreme living leade for the Catholics, as for the Muslims, the Khalifah is a man appointed the position and responsibility of leadership of an entire nation, he is not worshipped, he is not elavated to sainthood or any godhood (much like the Shi'ah and their Ayatoilets). The Shi'ah worship their leaders as gods on earth as per their religious doctrines, they are polytheists, like the Catholics.
Yes, the Pope normally had full political, legislative, religious and military authority. Slowly the Pope was forced to give up to secular power and eventually democracy was reinstated and removed all except his religious authorities. The Pope until 1563 in practice was an Emperor having authority over multiple nations (and even over Empires, such as the Portuguese and Spanish).
So we do agree that Islam and Democracy are incompatible ;-)
I do not see why we disagree with the Caliph? I think we say the same thing with different words... You place a Caliph per state while the normal definition has 1 Caliph for all Muslims.
About Shia and Sunni, I'm not an expert I only know that Shia are more radical and want a Caliph that is directly connected to Muhammad and the Sunni allow a leader that is appointed by representatives. Anyhow, we can put out Shia from the discussion.
Well Communism as an ideology doesn't necessarily removes religion. Marx did stated that religion should not be involved in politics and economics, and also he personally was against religion but that doesn't mean that Communism cant co-exist with a religion like: Buddhism or Confucianism or Traditional Chinese religion even with some sects of Hinduism. Those religions have nothing to do with authoritarianism and could co-exist with Communism. (ps: Buddhism, Confucianism normally are only philosophies but are refereed as religions because the promote inner spiritual elevation)
